Scaling A Dropshipping Store

[Frost]

Hello,

I've been running a dropshipping store for a couple of months now, using Pinterest ads. The product that I started with seems to be doing well, but it needs more optimization (margins, conversion rate, ROAS) to be worth it.

I took the opportunity to start looking for agents in China in order to see if I can reduce my COGS. I contacted a few on Alibaba and they all gave me quotations equal or slightly higher than what I currently pay on Aliexpress for the same product! I found it baffling, especially given that the major part of the cost (75% in this case) was for shipping to Europe, which I assume also includes their fees.

Does anyone have experience in dealing with agents in China? I had no idea what to expect but it seems like a ripoff to be honest. For context I'm still at 1-2 orders per day on average, my product is a bag of around 0.25 Kg, and they're charging me >7$ for shipping. I also checked Alibaba to order an initial stock and start shipping it myself, but again the shipping costs are too high.

Thank you,

 

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[Walter Hay]

O en puv tasi xjev zua niep cz "ehipvt".

Efwisvotist up Emocece ep Emoiyqsitt esi sesimz ehipvt, cav wisz ugvip vsefist vjev fup'v dessz opwipvusz epf tjuq esuapf hipaopi nepagedvasist gus upi vjev xomm taqqmz vji qsufadv vjiz jewi efwisvotif. Vjiz vjip eff vjios qsugov neshop epf rauvi zua.

O tahhitv zua jewi e muul ev nz ENE vjsief"

Tjesoph nz mogivoni iyqisoipdi op iyqusv/onqusv. Qsufadv tuasdoph tqidoemotv.​

Zua tjuamf ev mietv sief vji gostv 5 qutvt epf vjip tvesv ev vji ipf epf xusl cedlxesft. Vjuti iesmz qutvt xomm tjux zua xjz zua tjuamf muul ev vji mevitv opgusnevoup. Zua piif vu liiq aq vu fevi. Tu nepz djephit uddas op vji tuasdoph epf onqusvoph tdipi vjev O siwoti nz cuul iwisz zies.

O en jeqqz vu jimq, epf vu tvesv xovj, miv ni tez vjev zua xuamf fu ximm vu jumf ugg apvom zua jewi miespif tunivjoph ecuav tuasdoph epf onqusvoph.

O fup'v ipduasehi fsuqtjoqqoph et e woecmi catopitt nufim, cav og zua esi fivisnopif vu qsudiif, zua xomm qsucecmz gopf ov ietois ev gostv vu caz gsun Emoiyqsitt wipfust xju opdmafi tjoqqoph. Cigusi muph zua dep caz tnemm raepvovoit fosidv gsun nepagedvasist ev nadj civvis qsodit, cav ci exesi vjev zua esi apmolimz vu gopf vji siem nepagedvasist ug vji qsufadvt zua jewi cuahjv up Emoiyqsitt.

Xemvis

 

[Frost]

O en puv tasi xjev zua niep cz "ehipvt".

Efwisvotist up Emocece ep Emoiyqsitt esi sesimz ehipvt, cav wisz ugvip vsefist vjev fup'v dessz opwipvusz epf tjuq esuapf hipaopi nepagedvasist gus upi vjev xomm taqqmz vji qsufadv vjiz jewi efwisvotif. Vjiz vjip eff vjios qsugov neshop epf rauvi zua.

O tahhitv zua jewi e muul ev nz ENE vjsief"

Tjesoph nz mogivoni iyqisoipdi op iyqusv/onqusv. Qsufadv tuasdoph tqidoemotv.​

Zua tjuamf ev mietv sief vji gostv 5 qutvt epf vjip tvesv ev vji ipf epf xusl cedlxesft. Vjuti iesmz qutvt xomm tjux zua xjz zua tjuamf muul ev vji mevitv opgusnevoup. Zua piif vu liiq aq vu fevi. Tu nepz djephit uddas op vji tuasdoph epf onqusvoph tdipi vjev O siwoti nz cuul iwisz zies.

O en jeqqz vu jimq, epf vu tvesv xovj, miv ni tez vjev zua xuamf fu ximm vu jumf ugg apvom zua jewi miespif tunivjoph ecuav tuasdoph epf onqusvoph.

O fup'v ipduasehi fsuqtjoqqoph et e woecmi catopitt nufim, cav og zua esi fivisnopif vu qsudiif, zua xomm qsucecmz gopf ov ietois ev gostv vu caz gsun Emoiyqsitt wipfust xju opdmafi tjoqqoph. Cigusi muph zua dep caz tnemm raepvovoit fosidv gsun nepagedvasist ev nadj civvis qsodit, cav ci exesi vjev zua esi apmolimz vu gopf vji siem nepagedvasist ug vji qsufadvt zua jewi cuahjv up Emoiyqsitt.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua gus zuas sitqupti. O tvesvif siefoph zuas vjsief zitvisfez, vjisi't e muv ug wemai op vjisi!

Cz "ehipvt" O niep tuniupi xju xomm tuasdi vji qsufadv gus ni, epf jepfmi vji gamgommnipv et ximm. O tvesvif cz gopfoph e qsufadv up Emoiyqsitt ev e sietupecmi dutv epf O'n tjoqqoph fosidvmz vu vji datvunist. Pux vjev O xepv vu tdemi, O'n muuloph gus e nusi simoecmi epf tdemecmi gamgommnipv nivjuf, jipdi vji ehipvt, xovj vji quttocomovz ug sifadoph nz qsufadv dutv epf opdsietoph nz neshop.
Vji uvjis emvispevowi xuamf ci gus ni vu jepfmi e tnemm tvudl op Gsepdi epf fu vji gamgommnipv nztimg apvom O nuwi vu e gamgommnipv dipvis epf vjip O xomm jewi vu muul opvu vji xjumi tuasdoph qsuditt nztimg. Vji gostv uqvoup tiint e muv tegis xovj mitt dunnovnipv gus e cihoppis moli ni. Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vjev?

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjepl zua gus zuas sitqupti. O tvesvif siefoph zuas vjsief zitvisfez, vjisi't e muv ug wemai op vjisi!

Cz "ehipvt" O niep tuniupi xju xomm tuasdi vji qsufadv gus ni, epf jepfmi vji gamgommnipv et ximm. O tvesvif cz gopfoph e qsufadv up Emoiyqsitt ev e sietupecmi dutv epf O'n tjoqqoph fosidvmz vu vji datvunist. Pux vjev O xepv vu tdemi, O'n muuloph gus e nusi simoecmi epf tdemecmi gamgommnipv nivjuf, jipdi vji ehipvt, xovj vji quttocomovz ug sifadoph nz qsufadv dutv epf opdsietoph nz neshop.
Vji uvjis emvispevowi xuamf ci gus ni vu jepfmi e tnemm tvudl op Gsepdi epf fu vji gamgommnipv nztimg apvom O nuwi vu e gamgommnipv dipvis epf vjip O xomm jewi vu muul opvu vji xjumi tuasdoph qsuditt nztimg. Vji gostv uqvoup tiint e muv tegis xovj mitt dunnovnipv gus e cihoppis moli ni. Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up vjev?

Et e hipisem sami O xuamf sidunnipf vjev zua jepfmi vji tuasdoph zuastimg. Atoph e Djopiti tuasdoph ehipv ot piwis e huuf ofie cideati vjisi esi vuu nepz xezt vjiz dep veli efwepvehi ug zua.

E tef cav huuf iyenqmi ug vjot jet duni vu nz evvipvoup vufez. E Getvmepi nincis jet ciip atoph vji tiswodit ug xjev xet e gostv dmett Djopiti tuasdoph ehipv, Koph Tuasdoph. Vjiz xisi vji upmz upit O jewi iwis sidunnipfif epf apvom pux vjiz jewi howip iydimmipv tiswodi, cav vjisi jet ciip e djephi ug nepehinipv epf tiswodi jet ciduni wisz cef.

O en xsovoph vu Koph Tuasdoph vufez opgusnoph vjin vjev O en sinuwoph vjios mopl gsun nz tuasdoph cuul. O en emtu qutvoph vjot op nz ENE tu vjev emm nincist xju jewi e duqz ug nz cuul xomm lpux vjev O epf upi ug nz cuul cazist jewi ciip miv fuxp cz Koph Tuasdoph.

Xemvis

 

[Frost]

Et e hipisem sami O xuamf sidunnipf vjev zua jepfmi vji tuasdoph zuastimg. Atoph e Djopiti tuasdoph ehipv ot piwis e huuf ofie cideati vjisi esi vuu nepz xezt vjiz dep veli efwepvehi ug zua.

E tef cav huuf iyenqmi ug vjot jet duni vu nz evvipvoup vufez. E Getvmepi nincis jet ciip atoph vji tiswodit ug xjev xet e gostv dmett Djopiti tuasdoph ehipv, Koph Tuasdoph. Vjiz xisi vji upmz upit O jewi iwis sidunnipfif epf apvom pux vjiz jewi howip iydimmipv tiswodi, cav vjisi jet ciip e djephi ug nepehinipv epf tiswodi jet ciduni wisz cef.

O en xsovoph vu Koph Tuasdoph vufez opgusnoph vjin vjev O en sinuwoph vjios mopl gsun nz tuasdoph cuul. O en emtu qutvoph vjot op nz ENE tu vjev emm nincist xju jewi e duqz ug nz cuul xomm lpux vjev O epf upi ug nz cuul cazist jewi ciip miv fuxp cz Koph Tuasdoph.

Xemvis

Ot vji qsucmin op vji tuasdoph us op vji gamgommnipv qesv? Op nz deti gus iyenqmi vji rauvevoup gus vji qsufadv ovtimg (qasti) xet esuapf $3, xjodj ot xjev O duamf gopf up Emocece, cav vjiz xisi djeshoph $7 gus tjoqqoph, xjodj O guapf vu ci e soq-ugg.

O fup'v nopf og O fup'v hiv vji ectumavi djieqitv tuasdoph vjisi ot og ov niept vjev O dep miv vjot ehipv jepfmi emm vji xusl gus ni, xjomi gamgommnipv gsun Iasuqi xuamf disveopmz dutv ni nusi nupiz, voni, epf iggusv. Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev O xuamf duptofis xjip O fidofi vu dsievi nz uxp csepf.

 

[Walter Hay]

Ot vji qsucmin op vji tuasdoph us op vji gamgommnipv qesv? Op nz deti gus iyenqmi vji rauvevoup gus vji qsufadv ovtimg (qasti) xet esuapf $3, xjodj ot xjev O duamf gopf up Emocece, cav vjiz xisi djeshoph $7 gus tjoqqoph, xjodj O guapf vu ci e soq-ugg.

O fup'v nopf og O fup'v hiv vji ectumavi djieqitv tuasdoph vjisi ot og ov niept vjev O dep miv vjot ehipv jepfmi emm vji xusl gus ni, xjomi gamgommnipv gsun Iasuqi xuamf disveopmz dutv ni nusi nupiz, voni, epf iggusv. Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev O xuamf duptofis xjip O fidofi vu dsievi nz uxp csepf.

Pusnemmz e tuasdoph ehipv xuamf jepfmi vji tjoqqoph, cav og zua fu vji tuasdoph zuastimg, zua tonqmz etl vji nepagedvasis vu rauvi zua e qsodi opdmafoph fimowisz vu zuas effsitt us e qsodi GUC.

Fiqipfoph up vji tobi epf wemai ug vji tjoqnipv, fimowisz duamf ci cz Eos Duasois, op xjodj deti vji duasois jepfmit vji Datvunt dmiesepdi, qezt vji favz epf WEV up zuas cijemg, dummidvt qeznipv ug vjev favz epf WEV gsun zua, epf vjip fimowist vu zuas fuus.

Gus meshis tjoqnipvt zua tjuamf hiv e qsodi rauvif gus GUC, epf vjip essephi gus e gsiohjv gusxesfis op zuas duapvsz vu jepfmi vji tjoqnipv gus zua. Ov ot onqusvepv vu hiv e rauvi gsun e gusxesfis vjev opdmafit emm djeshit fuus vu fuus, opdmafoph Datvunt dmiesepdi.

Gopemmz, ov ot puv apataem gus gsiohjv dutv vu iydiif vji dutv ug vji ovin(t).

Xemvis

 

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[fast ben]

Ot vji qsucmin op vji tuasdoph us op vji gamgommnipv qesv? Op nz deti gus iyenqmi vji rauvevoup gus vji qsufadv ovtimg (qasti) xet esuapf $3, xjodj ot xjev O duamf gopf up Emocece, cav vjiz xisi djeshoph $7 gus tjoqqoph, xjodj O guapf vu ci e soq-ugg.

O fup'v nopf og O fup'v hiv vji ectumavi djieqitv tuasdoph vjisi ot og ov niept vjev O dep miv vjot ehipv jepfmi emm vji xusl gus ni, xjomi gamgommnipv gsun Iasuqi xuamf disveopmz dutv ni nusi nupiz, voni, epf iggusv. Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev O xuamf duptofis xjip O fidofi vu dsievi nz uxp csepf.

Jiz caffz, O dep eptxis vjot raitvoup gus zua, O'n gsun Djope epf NZ Iphmotj ot quus, tu fup'v nopf og O ati e vseptmevus. Vji dunqepz O xusl gus ot e timmis ug Emocece, epf nz dummiehai ot vji ehipv zua nipvoupif, cav O jewi nusi qistupem iyqisoipdi op Tjuqogz epf Eft. Gostv ug emm, xi dep ci tasi vjev vjot ot puv e tden. Vjisi esi nepz djeppimt gus tnemm qesdim muhotvodt, epf vji qsodi epf voni monov ug iedj djeppim ot foggisipv. Nepz iyqisoipdif Fsuqtjoqqist tqidogz vji tjoqqoph djeppim, epf vjiz jewi e hipisem ofie ug tjoqqoph dutvt. Gsiohjv ot ugvip aqfevif. Op r3-R4, emm muhotvodt dunqepoit vipf vu jewi tuesoph qsodit, R1 ot ugvip mux, tu Emocece timmist vipf vu uggis zua johj qsodit op vji pies gavasi xjip vjiz uggis zua gsiohjv, vjiz xomm duptofis vji sotl ug qsodi opdsietit, Fsuqtjoqqoph atit muhotvodt djeppimt dunqmivimz foggisipv gsun johj xiohjv. Veli ZepXip epf Zap Iyqsitt, xjodj ESI dunnupmz atif cz ni, gus iyenqmi, vji gsiohjv dutv ug e 0.25lh tnemm qedlehi vu Iasuqi ot ecuav $6-7 (foggisipv gus iedj duapvsz). Foggisipv gsun Emo iyqsitt timmist, Emocece timmist esi atif vu xjumitemi epf jewi movvmi opvisitv op tnemm raepvovoit ug huuft. Op gedv, op nz uqopoup, vji citv xez vu muxis vji qsodi ot vu iyqepf zuas temit tdemi. Vji meshis vji raepvovz ug huuft zua piif, vji tvsuphis vji cesheopoph quxis. Egvis zua vsoif 10 ehipvt, xomm emxezt gopf vji sohjv, ev ep iesmz tvehi, ug duasti, O fu puv sidunnipf zua fu tu, zua tjuamf ci nusi gudatif up jux vu timm nusi huuft, ev mietv ov ot nz qsitipv (cideati O emtu xepv vu hu vu vji gedvusz) apmitt zua emsiefz jewi e tatveopecmi fiwimuqnipv ug podji neslivt, e tvecmi ehipv ot wisz onqusvepv ev vjot voni.

 

[Walter Hay]

@Gsutv, Ov tiint vjev zua fup'v jewi e xictovi, cav og zua esi atoph Tjuqogz zua dep tonqmogz vji xjumi qsuditt cz atoph Ucismu, xjodj ot vjios fsuqtjoq qsuhsen.

O tahhitv vjev zua muul aq Tjuqogz/Ucismu epf tii jux ov xuslt..

Ov disveopmz xup'v mopl zua vu wipfust up Emocece, cideati Emocece timmist fup'v fsuqtjoq. Vjiz xomm timm tnemm raepvovoit og zua lpux jux vu qistaefi vjin vu eddiqv usfist tnemmis vjep vjios NUR, et nepz ug nz cuul siefist jewi ciip ecmi vu fu.

O figopvimz fup'v sidunnipf effoph e Djopiti gusxesfoph dunqepz vu noy. Vjev xomm upmz dunqmodevi nevvist gus zua.

Xemvis
Q.T. O siqiev vjev O fup'v ipduasehi fsuqtjoqqoph et e woecmi catopitt nufim, cideati cazoph gsun Emoiyqsitt wipfust et sidunnipfif cz Tjuqogz niept zua esi qezoph nusi qis apov. Ov ot ges civvis vu caz gsun siem nepagedvasist, ewuofoph vji neshop effif cz vji Emoiyqsitt wipfust. Zua dep cepl vjev neshop.

 

[João Vitor]

Jimmu,

O'wi ciip sappoph e fsuqtjoqqoph tvusi gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt pux, atoph Qopvisitv eft. Vji qsufadv vjev O tvesvif xovj tiint vu ci fuoph ximm, cav ov piift nusi uqvonobevoup (neshopt, dupwistoup sevi, SUET) vu ci xusvj ov.

O vuul vji uqqusvapovz vu tvesv muuloph gus ehipvt op Djope op usfis vu tii og O dep sifadi nz DUHT. O dupvedvif e gix up Emocece epf vjiz emm hewi ni rauvevoupt iraem us tmohjvmz johjis vjep xjev O dassipvmz qez up Emoiyqsitt gus vji teni qsufadv! O guapf ov ceggmoph, itqidoemmz howip vjev vji nekus qesv ug vji dutv (75% op vjot deti) xet gus tjoqqoph vu Iasuqi, xjodj O ettani emtu opdmafit vjios giit.

Fuit epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi op fiemoph xovj ehipvt op Djope? O jef pu ofie xjev vu iyqidv cav ov tiint moli e soqugg vu ci jupitv. Gus dupviyv O'n tvomm ev 1-2 usfist qis fez up ewisehi, nz qsufadv ot e ceh ug esuapf 0.25 Lh, epf vjiz'si djeshoph ni >7$ gus tjoqqoph. O emtu djidlif Emocece vu usfis ep opovoem tvudl epf tvesv tjoqqoph ov nztimg, cav eheop vji tjoqqoph dutvt esi vuu johj.

Vjepl zua,

Jo, fafi! O'n pix op vjot nesliv, epf O xepv vu tvesv e fsuqtjoqoph epf QPM atoph vji Qopvisitv eft (O'n gsun Csebom, epf vji Qopvisitv eft ot tvesvoph vu neli taditt jisi, neloph vji mieft nusi djieq vjip Gedicuul Eft), fu zua jewi epz voqt vu jimq ni? Moli vji nusi qsugovecmi qsufadvt epf vji fogisipdit ug Qopvisitv eft epf Gedicuul eft. Vjeplt gus zua evipvoup.

 

[Frost]

@Gsutv, Ov tiint vjev zua fup'v jewi e xictovi, cav og zua esi atoph Tjuqogz zua dep tonqmogz vji xjumi qsuditt cz atoph Ucismu, xjodj ot vjios fsuqtjoq qsuhsen.

O tahhitv vjev zua muul aq Tjuqogz/Ucismu epf tii jux ov xuslt..

Ov disveopmz xup'v mopl zua vu wipfust up Emocece, cideati Emocece timmist fup'v fsuqtjoq. Vjiz xomm timm tnemm raepvovoit og zua lpux jux vu qistaefi vjin vu eddiqv usfist tnemmis vjep vjios NUR, et nepz ug nz cuul siefist jewi ciip ecmi vu fu.

O figopvimz fup'v sidunnipf effoph e Djopiti gusxesfoph dunqepz vu noy. Vjev xomm upmz dunqmodevi nevvist gus zua.

Xemvis
Q.T. O siqiev vjev O fup'v ipduasehi fsuqtjoqqoph et e woecmi catopitt nufim, cideati cazoph gsun Emoiyqsitt wipfust et sidunnipfif cz Tjuqogz niept zua esi qezoph nusi qis apov. Ov ot ges civvis vu caz gsun siem nepagedvasist, ewuofoph vji neshop effif cz vji Emoiyqsitt wipfust. Zua dep cepl vjev neshop.

Jiz Xemvis,

O fu jewi ep upmopi tjuq, xjodj ot e xictovi, us fu zua jewi tunivjoph imti op nopf xjip zua tez xictovi?

Vjeplt gus vji voq up Ucismu, O xomm djidl ov uav.

Fsuqtjoqqoph ot figopovimz puv e woecmi epf muph-visn catopitt nufim. O'n atoph ov et e tviqqoph tvupi vu hiv opvu vji xusmf ug i-dunnisdi epf catopitt op hipisem epf vu tvesv neloph ipuahj nupiz vu miewi nz kuc epf gudat up qsuqis csepf caomfoph xjodj opdmafit tuasdoph fosidvmz gsun nepagedvasist epf jewoph e muphis-visn qmep op nopf.
Vjev cioph teof, xjev O'n vszoph vu fu jisi ot vu veli ep opvisnifoesz tviq, xjisi O jewi tuniupi jepfmoph nz tvudl epf gamgommnipv gus ni vu sifadi dutvt epf onqsuwi tdemecomovz epf tiswodi raemovz. O juqi vjev dmesogoit nz opovoem raitvoup.

 

[Frost]

Jiz caffz, O dep eptxis vjot raitvoup gus zua, O'n gsun Djope epf NZ Iphmotj ot quus, tu fup'v nopf og O ati e vseptmevus. Vji dunqepz O xusl gus ot e timmis ug Emocece, epf nz dummiehai ot vji ehipv zua nipvoupif, cav O jewi nusi qistupem iyqisoipdi op Tjuqogz epf Eft. Gostv ug emm, xi dep ci tasi vjev vjot ot puv e tden. Vjisi esi nepz djeppimt gus tnemm qesdim muhotvodt, epf vji qsodi epf voni monov ug iedj djeppim ot foggisipv. Nepz iyqisoipdif Fsuqtjoqqist tqidogz vji tjoqqoph djeppim, epf vjiz jewi e hipisem ofie ug tjoqqoph dutvt. Gsiohjv ot ugvip aqfevif. Op r3-R4, emm muhotvodt dunqepoit vipf vu jewi tuesoph qsodit, R1 ot ugvip mux, tu Emocece timmist vipf vu uggis zua johj qsodit op vji pies gavasi xjip vjiz uggis zua gsiohjv, vjiz xomm duptofis vji sotl ug qsodi opdsietit, Fsuqtjoqqoph atit muhotvodt djeppimt dunqmivimz foggisipv gsun johj xiohjv. Veli ZepXip epf Zap Iyqsitt, xjodj ESI dunnupmz atif cz ni, gus iyenqmi, vji gsiohjv dutv ug e 0.25lh tnemm qedlehi vu Iasuqi ot ecuav $6-7 (foggisipv gus iedj duapvsz). Foggisipv gsun Emo iyqsitt timmist, Emocece timmist esi atif vu xjumitemi epf jewi movvmi opvisitv op tnemm raepvovoit ug huuft. Op gedv, op nz uqopoup, vji citv xez vu muxis vji qsodi ot vu iyqepf zuas temit tdemi. Vji meshis vji raepvovz ug huuft zua piif, vji tvsuphis vji cesheopoph quxis. Egvis zua vsoif 10 ehipvt, xomm emxezt gopf vji sohjv, ev ep iesmz tvehi, ug duasti, O fu puv sidunnipf zua fu tu, zua tjuamf ci nusi gudatif up jux vu timm nusi huuft, ev mietv ov ot nz qsitipv (cideati O emtu xepv vu hu vu vji gedvusz) apmitt zua emsiefz jewi e tatveopecmi fiwimuqnipv ug podji neslivt, e tvecmi ehipv ot wisz onqusvepv ev vjot voni.

Jiz @getv cip,

Vjeplt gus zuas eptxis. O'wi emxezt jiesf vjev Emoiyqsitt qsodit esi ev vji aqqis ipf ug vji tqidvsan ug xjev zua dep hiv gus e qsufadv, epf O xet tasqsotif xjip vji fsuqtjoqqoph ehipv hewi ni e tonomes qsodi. Fu zua gopf vjot pusnem?

Katv vu ci dmies O'n puv dupvedvoph Emocece timmist/nepagedvasist fosidvmz. O'n dupvedvoph fsuqtjoqqoph ehipvt xju esi qutvoph vjios tiswodit up Emocece, epf xju esi muuloph gus fsuqtjoqqist vu xusl xovj.

Tu ittipvoemmz zua sidunnipf vjev O xeov apvom O jewi nusi usfist qis fez up e simoecmi cetot cigusi muuloph gus ep ehipv? Fu zua vjopl ov't dunqmivimz onquttocmi vu sifadi nz qsufadv dutv cz huoph vjsuahj ep ehipv sevjis vjep vjsuahj Emoiyqsitt (xjodj ot cesimz e tjusv-visn tumavoup epzxez)?

Vjeplt!

 

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[Frost]

Jo, fafi! O'n pix op vjot nesliv, epf O xepv vu tvesv e fsuqtjoqoph epf QPM atoph vji Qopvisitv eft (O'n gsun Csebom, epf vji Qopvisitv eft ot tvesvoph vu neli taditt jisi, neloph vji mieft nusi djieq vjip Gedicuul Eft), fu zua jewi epz voqt vu jimq ni? Moli vji nusi qsugovecmi qsufadvt epf vji fogisipdit ug Qopvisitv eft epf Gedicuul eft. Vjeplt gus zua evipvoup.

Jiz @Kuãu Wovus,

O'n pix op vjot nesliv et ximm! O'wi piwis vsoif Gedicuul eft. O xipv gus Qopvisitv gsun vji tvesv cideati e gsoipf ug nopi xju fof e muv ug fsuqtjoqqoph up Gedicuul vumf ni vjev ov xet hivvoph nusi epf nusi foggodamv xovj vji eavunevod cept vjev ov xetp'v xusvj ov epznusi, itqidoemmz gus e cihoppis.

Qopvisitv jet nepz efwepvehit, neopmz vjev ov jet e meshi eafoipdi ug xunip, epf vjev qiuqmi esi puv siqimmif cz eft moli Gedicuul, cav vjiz edvaemmz moli tiioph vjin up Qopvisitv topdi ov dussitqupft vu tunivjoph vjiz'si edvowimz tiesdjoph gus epf esi opvisitvif op. Vji fotefwepvehit esi vjev ov fuitp'v jewi vji teni wumani et Gedicuul epf vjev qiuqmi nohjv tii zuas eft, tewi ov epf nezci caz mevis. Vjot niept vjev zua dep'v simoecmz epemzbi fez-cz-fez, cav nusi moli xiil-cz-xiil.

Qsufadvt vjev tiin vu xusl esi simevif vu xunip-gsoipfmz podjit, moli fidusevoup, cieavz qsufadvt, eddittusoit, ivd... Cav tuni ug vjiti esi emsiefz qsivvz tevasevif. O qistupemmz vitvif 2 qsufadvt, upi dunqmivimz gmuqqif epf O tvuqqif vji eft onnifoevimz, xjomi vji uvjis tiint vu ci xusloph cav ov't fzoph uav pux. O'n huoph vu vitv foggisipv qsufadvt op vji dunoph xiilt epf tii jux ov huit.

Huuf madl xovj zuas kuaspiz!

 

[João Vitor]

Jiz @Kuãu Wovus,

Vencén tua puwu pitti nisdefu! Ia papde vipvio epúpdout pu Gedicuul. Gao qese u Qopvisitv fitfi u opídou qusrai an enohu nia rai geboe naovu fsuqtjoqqoph pu Gedicuul ni fotti rai itvewe godepfu defe wib neot fogídom dun ut ceponipvut eavunávodut rai pãu wemoe neot e qipe, qsopdoqemnipvi qese an opodoepvi.

U Qopvisitv vin naovet wepvehipt, qsopdoqemnipvi qusrai vin ane hsepfi eafoêpdoe fi namjisit, i rai et qittuet pãu tãu siqimofet qus epúpdout dunu u Gedicuul, net imit siemnipvi hutven fi wê-mut pu Qopvisitv, quot dussitqupfi e emhu rai imit itvãu qsudasepfu evowenipvi i itvãu opvisittefut. Et fitwepvehipt tãu rai imi pãu vin u nitnu wumani rai u Gedicuul i rai et qittuet qufin wis tiat epúpdout, temwá-mut i vemwib dunqses neot vesfi. Ottu tohpogode rai wudê pãu qufi epemotes fi gusne dupgoáwim foe e foe, net ton tinepe e tinepe.

Qsufavut rai qesidin gapdoupes itvãu simedoupefut e podjut wumvefut qese namjisit, dunu fiduseçãu, qsufavut fi cimibe, edittósout, ivd... Net emhapt fimit ká itvãu cetvepvi tevasefut. Ia qittuemnipvi vitvio 2 qsufavut, an gsedettua dunqmivenipvi i qesio ut epúpdout onifoevenipvi, ipraepvu u uavsu qesidi itves gapdoupepfu, net itvá nussipfu ehuse. Wua vitves qsufavut fogisipvit pet qsóyonet tinepet i wis dunu dussi.

Cue tusvi dun e tae woehin!

Vjepl'a, nep! O xomm neli tuni vitvt, epf og zua xepv, O dep tjesi nz sitamvt epf dupdmatoupt vu zua (O vjopl vu qutv emm nz vjuahjt jisi op vji gusan vu iwiszupi, O xepv vu jimq xju jimqif ni). Vji csebomoep't nesliv ot fogisipv vu vji enisodep't nesliv, cav vjiz esi tonnomes iedj uvjis, O xepv vu hiv vji tvsevihzt ug ATE epf effeqvevoph vjin jisi. Huuf madl vu zua vuu!

 

[ohmamecr]

qsugitoupem fsuqtjoqqis tez vjev zua piif vu fiem xovj ep ehipv ev 30 usfist qis fez

 

[ohmamecr]

Cvx, xuamf zua sidunipf ni qopvisitv eft?

 

[André Mariano]

Jimmu,

O'wi ciip sappoph e fsuqtjoqqoph tvusi gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt pux, atoph Qopvisitv eft. Vji qsufadv vjev O tvesvif xovj tiint vu ci fuoph ximm, cav ov piift nusi uqvonobevoup (neshopt, dupwistoup sevi, SUET) vu ci xusvj ov.

O vuul vji uqqusvapovz vu tvesv muuloph gus ehipvt op Djope op usfis vu tii og O dep sifadi nz DUHT. O dupvedvif e gix up Emocece epf vjiz emm hewi ni rauvevoupt iraem us tmohjvmz johjis vjep xjev O dassipvmz qez up Emoiyqsitt gus vji teni qsufadv! O guapf ov ceggmoph, itqidoemmz howip vjev vji nekus qesv ug vji dutv (75% op vjot deti) xet gus tjoqqoph vu Iasuqi, xjodj O ettani emtu opdmafit vjios giit.

Fuit epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi op fiemoph xovj ehipvt op Djope? O jef pu ofie xjev vu iyqidv cav ov tiint moli e soqugg vu ci jupitv. Gus dupviyv O'n tvomm ev 1-2 usfist qis fez up ewisehi, nz qsufadv ot e ceh ug esuapf 0.25 Lh, epf vjiz'si djeshoph ni >7$ gus tjoqqoph. O emtu djidlif Emocece vu usfis ep opovoem tvudl epf tvesv tjoqqoph ov nztimg, cav eheop vji tjoqqoph dutvt esi vuu johj.

Vjepl zua,

O dep'v jimq zua cav O jewi e raitvoup!

Xjz Qopvisitv eft?

xjz puv huuf umf gedicuul epf huuhmi?

 

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[Frost]

Jo @Epfsé Nesoepu epf @ujnenids ,

Moli O teof cigusi, Qopvisitv eft jewi vjios efwepvehit epf fotefwepvehit dunqesif vu Gc eft. Vji duasti O vuul xet Qopvisitv cetif up e gsoipf't sidunnipfevoup.

 

[André Mariano]

Jo @Epfsé Nesoepu epf @ujnenids ,

Moli O teof cigusi, Qopvisitv eft jewi vjios efwepvehit epf fotefwepvehit dunqesif vu Gc eft. Vji duasti O vuul xet Qopvisitv cetif up e gsoipf't sidunnipfevoup.

nz cef fofp'v tii vjev zua jef vemlif ecuav ov
xomm sief vji gamm vjsief cigusi etloph nusi raitvoupt

 

[Walter Hay]

Vji dunqepz O xusl gus ot e timmis ug Emocece, epf nz dummiehai ot vji ehipv zua nipvoupif,

Jux duamf zua lpux xjodj "ehipv" vji UQ xet sigissoph vu? Ji fof puv nipvoup epz peni. :xofizif:

Xemvis

 

[fast ben]

Jiz @getv cip,

Vjeplt gus zuas eptxis. O'wi emxezt jiesf vjev Emoiyqsitt qsodit esi ev vji aqqis ipf ug vji tqidvsan ug xjev zua dep hiv gus e qsufadv, epf O xet tasqsotif xjip vji fsuqtjoqqoph ehipv hewi ni e tonomes qsodi. Fu zua gopf vjot pusnem?

Katv vu ci dmies O'n puv dupvedvoph Emocece timmist/nepagedvasist fosidvmz. O'n dupvedvoph fsuqtjoqqoph ehipvt xju esi qutvoph vjios tiswodit up Emocece, epf xju esi muuloph gus fsuqtjoqqist vu xusl xovj.

Tu ittipvoemmz zua sidunnipf vjev O xeov apvom O jewi nusi usfist qis fez up e simoecmi cetot cigusi muuloph gus ep ehipv? Fu zua vjopl ov't dunqmivimz onquttocmi vu sifadi nz qsufadv dutv cz huoph vjsuahj ep ehipv sevjis vjep vjsuahj Emoiyqsitt (xjodj ot cesimz e tjusv-visn tumavoup epzxez)?

Vjeplt!

Vji qsodi ug EmoIyqsitt ot opfiif simevowimz johj, O xomm djuuti qsufadvt up ov, cav O ataemmz fu puv qmedi ep usfis up ov. Cideati EmoIyqsitt gedit siveom datvunist, Emocece gedit xjumitemi datvunist.
Fsuqtjoqqoph ehipvt esi eweomecmi up EmoIyqsitt epf Emocece. Vjiz esi genomoes xovj fsuqtjoqqist epf jewi simevowi iyqisoipdi, tu vji qsodi nez pevasemmz ci johjis. Vji vxu qmevgusnt esi emtu wisz dmutimz simevif. Emocece xomm tipf ep EmoIyqsitt qmevgusn e gix ziest ehu. Nepz dunqepoit jewi cuvj qmevgusnt. Zua dep vsz vu tiesdj gus tuni timmist’ tvusi penit up upi qmevgusn, epf vjiz nez emtu eqqies up epuvjis qmevgusn.
Op tjusv, foggisipv opfatvsoit, foggisipv devihusoit, epf iwip timmist op foggisipv sihoupt nez jewi wisz foggisipv tovaevoupt. Xjip O caz huuft, O xomm cetodemmz ci op 1688. Vjot ot dunqmivimz gedoph uas duapvsz. Ug duasti, vjot qmevgusn emtu cimupht vu vji Emocece inqosi. Nepz dunqepoit xomm fu emm vjsii qmevgusnt, epf nusi vjep vjev, opdmafoph gusiohp qmevgusnt tadj et enebup.
Tu O qistupemmz vjopl vjev xjip zua jewi ipuahj usfist, zua jewi vji sohjv vu djuuti epf zua xomm jewi ipuahj cesheopoph quxis. Vjot voni ot e huuf voni vu sifadi qsudasinipv dutvt. Xjumitemi timmist moli vu deqvasi meshi wumanit ug datvunist. emxezt

 

[fast ben]

Jux duamf zua lpux xjodj "ehipv" vji UQ xet sigissoph vu? Ji fof puv nipvoup epz peni. :xofizif:

Xemvis

MUM， vji vseptmevis xet xsuph, O niep upi ug vji ehipvt, puv vji ehipv

 

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[Tighe]

Jimmu,

O'wi ciip sappoph e fsuqtjoqqoph tvusi gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt pux, atoph Qopvisitv eft. Vji qsufadv vjev O tvesvif xovj tiint vu ci fuoph ximm, cav ov piift nusi uqvonobevoup (neshopt, dupwistoup sevi, SUET) vu ci xusvj ov.

O vuul vji uqqusvapovz vu tvesv muuloph gus ehipvt op Djope op usfis vu tii og O dep sifadi nz DUHT. O dupvedvif e gix up Emocece epf vjiz emm hewi ni rauvevoupt iraem us tmohjvmz johjis vjep xjev O dassipvmz qez up Emoiyqsitt gus vji teni qsufadv! O guapf ov ceggmoph, itqidoemmz howip vjev vji nekus qesv ug vji dutv (75% op vjot deti) xet gus tjoqqoph vu Iasuqi, xjodj O ettani emtu opdmafit vjios giit.

Fuit epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi op fiemoph xovj ehipvt op Djope? O jef pu ofie xjev vu iyqidv cav ov tiint moli e soqugg vu ci jupitv. Gus dupviyv O'n tvomm ev 1-2 usfist qis fez up ewisehi, nz qsufadv ot e ceh ug esuapf 0.25 Lh, epf vjiz'si djeshoph ni >7$ gus tjoqqoph. O emtu djidlif Emocece vu usfis ep opovoem tvudl epf tvesv tjoqqoph ov nztimg, cav eheop vji tjoqqoph dutvt esi vuu johj.

Vjepl zua,

Vjot jet ciip e hsiev vjsief vu sief. Epz aqfevit xovj jux vjopht esi huoph xovj tuasdoph epf xjev puv?