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[Guest34764]

My favorite thing about fitness is that you can't bulls**t your way through it. You can't smooth talk people into believing that you are fit. Unless you are Richard Simmons, of course.

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Well you can roid if you wanted to bullshit your way through it.I think you're natty from what i can tell.You look good mate,nice to see some fellow body-builders and fitness people on here.

 

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[McFirewavesJr]

Well you can roid if you wanted to bullshit your way through it.I think you're natty from what i can tell.You look good mate,nice to see some fellow body-builders and fitness people on here.

I don't really want to get into it, but people use steroids for 2 reasons. First is to skip the process and second is to reach places their natural potential won't allow them to go. The vast majority of (young) users fall in the first category and eventually lose all their progress when they stop, so in the long run, they cannot fake true Fitness.

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[GMJimmy]

Hi Fred!

Nice thread, it's good to have you on the forum. You definitely have some authority to talk about fitness and bodybuilding.

Can you please let me know what do you mean by fitness model? Do you mean a muscular, mainly male model?

Or do you mean in a sense of FIT-ness: so that health body, healthy levels of bodyfat, blood lipids, bodyweight, elasticity, cardio etc?

In my experience - both personal and professional - it is really possible to achieve the latter within months (like 3-4 or more in normal situations), but I have no idea how it is possible to gain significant amount of muscle in a relatively short time. Those who I know and achieved something significant have spent years or used steroids. But I admit that I haven't done deep research in bodybuilding.

 

[Hackdroot]

Welcome to the Forum Fred. I just recently purchased a used bench setup and started All Pro's routine (from BB). Although my goals are modest compared to your results, I am exited about the prospect of a body transformation by next year. My current physique is a great starting point for this as I'm not overweight, but average tall build. My challenge will be bulking since I'm not accustomed to eating such large amounts of food everyday.

 

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[McFirewavesJr]

Great man, keep it up. Message me of you have questions.

Welcome to the Forum Fred. I just recently purchased a used bench setup and started All Pro's routine (from BB). Although my goals are modest compared to your results, I am exited about the prospect of a body transformation by next year. My current physique is a great starting point for this as I'm not overweight, but average tall build. My challenge will be bulking since I'm not accustomed to eating such large amounts of food everyday.

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[McFirewavesJr]

Hi Fred!

Nice thread, it's good to have you on the forum. You definitely have some authority to talk about fitness and bodybuilding.

Can you please let me know what do you mean by fitness model? Do you mean a muscular, mainly male model?

Or do you mean in a sense of FIT-ness: so that health body, healthy levels of bodyfat, blood lipids, bodyweight, elasticity, cardio etc?

In my experience - both personal and professional - it is really possible to achieve the latter within months (like 3-4 or more in normal situations), but I have no idea how it is possible to gain significant amount of muscle in a relatively short time. Those who I know and achieved something significant have spent years or used steroids. But I admit that I haven't done deep research in bodybuilding.

I'm not sure ton understand your question

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[Unfettered]

I'm not sure ton understand your question

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This

https://igniteperformancehealthfitness.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/fitness-modeling.jpg

or this

http://i42.tinypic.com/x52maq.jpg

 

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[The Irish Guy]

A lot of people use "Brad Pitt in fight club" as a sort of fitness model example, fairly muscular, ripped but not huge...

 

[Deleted35442]

Yes. I started with the good old "do what you love " and as my knowledge of business improved I fixed my business model. My company currently has 4 branches and all of them respect the CENTS.

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Good stuff @Fred Chevry I can also attest to rapid physique transformation without the use of steroids. Most hardcore Fastlaners that put in the work at 14+ hours a day would have to have the dedication of a monk though. @Unfettered sounds like he just likes hearing the sound of his own voice and got butthurt over his "Six Pack Shortcuts" package not working out.

One of my FAVORITE websites (even over bodybuilding.com) is http://www.simplyshredded.com these interviews with male physique models and bodybuilders are priceless. They lay out diets, routines, supplements, everything. Stuff they probably paid trainers thousands of dollars for to get it and it's all right there for the taking.

To get there fast, you need to cook/eat multiple times a day, lift at least 5 times a week, load up on good supplements, drink a gallon plus of water a day. That's discipline. I was doing all this on top of my job out of college then stopped when I quit and spent all my time focusing on my Fastlane biz. Would like to keep in touch, PM your Skype or something. Interested to see what your plans are going forward. Cheers.

 

[GPM]

It is amazing how fast the body can change when you want it to.

It is amazing how fast anything in life, positively or negatively, can change when you put your mind to it!

Glad to have you on board.

 

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[Unfettered]

Good stuff @Fred Chevry
@Unfettered sounds like he just likes hearing the sound of his own voice

True

and got butthurt over his "Six Pack Shortcuts" package not working out.

Stop projecting buddy.
I've always had visible abs just because I'm naturally slim, which I'm not even particularly proud of, no-one deserves a medal for not eating like a cow.

It's not about being right, it's about getting to the bottom of things. OPie still hasn't explained what he meant by:

"I only define myself as such, because slow laners and side walkers get very confused when I tell them what I really do."

 

[Jon L]

True



Stop projecting buddy.
I've always had visible abs just because I'm naturally slim, which I'm not even particularly proud of, no-one deserves a medal for not eating like a cow.

It's not about being right, it's about getting to the bottom of things. OPie still hasn't explained what he meant by:

"I only define myself as such, because slow laners and side walkers get very confused when I tell them what I really do."

I'm going to suggest something to you that I hope you take to heart. It is something that is taught on this forum, and can dramatically change the course of your life if you let it.

I grew up hearing the saying, 'if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.' I'm going to change that a little and apply it to what you've said to Fred so far:

"If you can't add value to a person's life with the words you're about to speak, its best not to say anything."

 

[Shdreams]

Welcome to the Forum Fred. People chirping over the net drives me bazoinkers. So I immediately felt like you deserved a warmer welcome.

 

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[LeftBench]

Welcome to the forum. I look forward to reading your posts and possibly getting some good advice along the way. I'm a former athlete who fell way out of shape and am currently working on getting back into shape.

 

[Chazmania]

@Fred Chevry

Welcome to the forum and thanks for offering up fitness advice. Don't worry about the negative crybabies, stick around Man this forum is a phenominal and positive resource. And also, congratulations on your bodybuilding success.


Since you're taking questions, I have a few about cutting:

1. What % of caloric defecit (without factoring in cardio yet) do you generally recommend to start out? Ex. My maintenance (incl lifting expenditure) cals = about 2900
2. What kind of fat loss rate do you think is wise to not sacrifice much muscle? Pound a week? Less?
3. What's your take on cheat meal(s) and/or refeeds? What have you found to be a reasonable allowance?
4. What type of cardio do you recommend? Hiit, long slow distance? A mix of both?

 

[McFirewavesJr]

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1)if we're taking about a bodybuilding cut and not a weight loss. I'd have you stick with 2900, lower the carbs and up the protein for about a month. You will not lose on the scale, but your body composition will start changing. Then I'd have you reduce calories by slices of 100 and increase cardio. Cardio vs Food will vary depending on how much your metabolism allows you to eat.

2) If done properly, one pound per week won't affect your muscle mass. More than that I is generally a weight loss and not a cut!

3) cheat meals and re feeds. It works, when used at the right time and for the right reason when cutting. If you're building mass, you can just play with macros and get away with pretty much anything without consequences. I also take the psychological factor into account when giving cheats to people. I prefer reducing your calories during the week and allowing you a cheat if it can keep you focused and prevent you from giving up. In summary, it really depends on the client and his/progress.

4)both. If you need to do more than 30 minutes of hiit, I would add steady pace after since your hiit won't be so intense after the first half hour. People don't seem to lose faster on hiit, but it always stays hard compared to steady pace which seems to get easier as you do it.

 

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[Chazmania]

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1)if we're taking about a bodybuilding cut and not a weight loss. I'd have you stick with 2900, lower the carbs and up the protein for about a month. You will not lose on the scale, but your body composition will start changing. Then I'd have you reduce calories by slices of 100 and increase cardio. Cardio vs Food will vary depending on how much your metabolism allows you to eat.

2) If done properly, one pound per week won't affect your muscle mass. More than that I is generally a weight loss and not a cut!

3) cheat meals and re feeds. It works, when used at the right time and for the right reason when cutting. If you're building mass, you can just play with macros and get away with pretty much anything without consequences. I also take the psychological factor into account when giving cheats to people. I prefer reducing your calories during the week and allowing you a cheat if it can keep you focused and prevent you from giving up. In summary, it really depends on the client and his/progress.

4)both. If you need to do more than 30 minutes of hiit, I would add steady pace after since your hiit won't be so intense after the first half hour. People don't seem to lose faster on hiit, but it always stays hard compared to steady pace which seems to get easier as you do it.

Excellent sounds good. Thanks & rep transferred.

 

[Sheps]

"I can make anyone a millionaire in mere months and I like to do it for free!"

Hmmm does that smack of bullshit to anyone here who knows what it really takes?..

Sometimes, people who know what it takes don't like it when others lie or otherwise misrepresent the case and/or the truth. Often that sounds like negativity, but really, the lie was the negative comment and exposing was a service.

 

[Chazmania]

"I can make anyone a millionaire in mere months and I like to do it for free!"

Hmmm does that smack of bullshit to anyone here who knows what it really takes?..

Sometimes, people who know what it takes don't like it when others lie or otherwise misrepresent the case and/or the truth. Often that sounds like negativity, but really, the lie was the negative comment and exposing was a service.

If he said he'd make anyone look like a huge bodybuilder in months then I'd agree that it's probably bullshit, but the 'fitness model' look is really just having abs and being lean and healthy looking. That is mostly a matter of fatloss and being lightly to moderately muscled, and that can definitely be done in months.

Many people have enough natural muscle underneath the fat to look like that from just leaning out over a matter of months. He's not bullshitting I can guarantee you that.

What do you think most fitness programs are? 12 - 16 week fatloss/fitness plans.

They work if you do them properly.

 

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[McFirewavesJr]

If he said he'd make anyone look like a huge bodybuilder in months then I'd agree that it's probably bullshit, but the 'fitness model' look is really just having abs and being lean and healthy looking. That is mostly a matter of fatloss and being lightly to moderately muscled, and that can definitely be done in months.

Many people have enough natural muscle underneath the fat to look like that from just leaning out over a matter of months. He's not bullshitting I can guarantee you that.

What do you think most fitness programs are? 12 - 16 week fatloss/fitness plans.

They work if you do them properly.

You read my mind

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[GPM]

Ever seen a modern movie? Like any movie at all. Most actors these days change their bodies to look a certain way for that role.

They do it in a couple months, not years.

It is mindset and dedication. If you have a poor attitude of course it won't work. If keeping a roof over your head means looking a certain way in 2 months, you have a ton of motivation (in the case of actors).

Same goes for most things if life. If you say that it can not be done then you are 100% correct, you never will be able to do it.

 

[McFirewavesJr]

"He who says he can and he who says he can't Are usually both right"

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[piesandak47]

nice musclesz, man...

Arms and beard are bigger than mine

Is your biz in the fitness industry as well?

 

[Ubermensch]

The fallacy fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when it is claimed that if an argument contains a logical fallacy, the proposition it was used to support is wrong.

The process of getting ripped and becoming a millionaire is very different.

You won that exchange.

"What does bodybuilding have to do with it?"

Hilarious.

 

[McFirewavesJr]

nice musclesz, man...

Arms and beard are bigger than mine

Is your biz in the fitness industry as well?

Yup!

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[Five Star]

@Fred Chevry welcome to the forum. Looks like you've caused quite a stir already

I have a quick question for you if you don't mind.

Do you have any advice on healthy snacking?
I seem to be a bit of a ‘grazer’, needing something often between meals.

I try to go with a banana or nuts, though more often than not I’ll grab a muffin or a ‘breakfast bar’. Mid afternoon is the worst at work, especially if I’m bored and the vending machines are in sight. Also probably drink too much tea and coffee.

Appreciate the advice, let me know if I can offer you some help with anything!

 

[Five Star]

Is your biz in the fitness industry as well?

Try Google. It's a pretty easy one....

 

[Unfettered]

Ever seen a modern movie? Like any movie at all. Most actors these days change their bodies to look a certain way for that role.

They do it in a couple months, not years.

It is mindset and dedication. If you have a poor attitude of course it won't work. If keeping a roof over your head means looking a certain way in 2 months, you have a ton of motivation (in the case of actors).

Same goes for most things if life. If you say that it can not be done then you are 100% correct, you never will be able to do it.

http://imgur.com/gallery/IYA2t

Wishful thinking. You just brought up a VERY bad example. Hollywood actors juice, train under supervision of numerous personal trainers, using training regimens that make the buffest guy at your gym scratch their heads, and are under a heavy medical eye throughout the process.

Such extreme changes so fast are certainly not healthy. Doctors are just there to make sure they don't kick the bucket during it.

Furthermore, I dare say the correlation between a "fastlane/process oriented mindset" and people who dedicate themselves to physical fitness is extremely weak at best. Tons of lowlifes in the gym who don't have any other aspirations beside smashing girls and hanging with the bros.
A typical guy doesn't start going to gym to get healthy. They either want more female attention or to look dangerous to other guys. Their ambitions ends there.

 

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[Ninjakid]

Welcome to the forum.

We have seen a ton of fitness people here, and most of them seem dubious. That's why some folks here seem skeptical at first.

As humans, we tend to relate every new experience to our old ones. Just some survival habits ingrained in our psychology.

I think you're one of the actually legit people. If you've built that impressive bod up in a matter of months without roids or other freaky shit, I bet you got a lot of advice worth following.

I'm gonna take advantage of your offer of free advice

 

[Michael W.]

I wonder how many of these so called fitness enthusiasts look even remotely close to Fred.