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In one sense, it is true that the system is rigged. But it's certainly not because of "muh capitalism!!!!11111"

Even though I grew up on a council estate (or what I think you would call the projects in the US), I never thought I was owed anything, or that someone else should give me their "fair share". When I was a kid I used to say that the difference between here and America is that here, people will see a Porsche and vandalise it. "Who does that rich prick think he is?!" Whereas in America they'll say "wow, nice Porsche. I wonder how I can become like that guy?". The younger me always wanted to move to America someday.

Apparently that America doesn't exist anymore.

When I very occasionally visit home, the same losers are still doing the same exact loser things they were 20 years ago. My dad's neighbour is always down the local pub, completely wasted in the middle of the day. I don't think she's ever worked a day in her life. Entitlement is cancer.

But back to the system. It might be rigged, but as MJ said it's also easier than ever to circumvent the same system. You don't even have to be an UNSCRIPTED Entrepreneur to do it.

You can pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, and live well working 10 hours a week.

Or you could pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, work 50 hours a week and save 80% of your income for a few years. You could leverage geo-arbitrage to live the fast-slowlane and retire in less than 10 years and live a minimalist lifestyle - if that's what you want. It's not for me but I totally get the appeal. It beats the hell out of being a cubicle jockey.

You can learn ANYTHING YOU WANT. For FREE. Right here on this beautiful, wondrous internet thing.

An old acquaintance of mine took to complaining on Faceache about how she wanted to be a writer and couldn't find any good jobs in writing. And how it was so unfair. In between bouts of gushing over Britain's new favourite Marxist politician. Last I checked she's still doing some menial job and complaining about how everything is unfair.

What the hell are you doing with your evenings, if you want to be a writer so much? Are you WRITING?!?!?!

Rhetorical question...

Even IF the system is rigged. Even IF the odds are stacked against you. Even IF the greedy-banker-capitalist-pigs-bourgeoisie-fatcats-whatever-BS is "keeping you down". Who's more likely to get what they want out of life - the one who believes they can do it, or the one who's already decided they can't?

On a non-ranty note, the very best millennials are busy creating a new and better world of freedom, opportunity and purpose. A world far greater than anything that's come before us. I'll drink to that.
 

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That was true of previous generations as well though.

Hmmm, I disagree.

A generation ago, if you wanted to write a book, you had to hope a publisher accepted you. Permission, needed. Today, you throw something up on Amazon.

If you wanted to put on your own TV show, you had to get a broadcaster / media corp to accept you. Permission, needed. Today, you throw something up on YouTube.

If you wanted to sell some product, you had to get a B&M store or distributor to accept your product. Permission, needed. Today you put it on your website and you have access to thousands, perhaps millions.

If you wanted to learn something, you had to find a school or a teacher. Permission, cash, needed. Today, you find the class anywhere on the web, or in videos on YouTube. Permission, and cash, not needed.

I can go on an on... but for ALL OF US (not just millenials) there is NO EXCUSE.

Years ago, it was a permission based world for opportunity.

That, for the most part, is GONE.
 

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All fine by me, however I make the conscious choice to use my time productively. To use my time to better my circumstances in life.

Your future laughter my friend...

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11 Rules that you don't learn in school.
From the book "Dumbing Down our Kids" by Charles Sykes



This is mistakenly attributed to Bill Gates, as a Speech he supposedly gave at Mt. Whitney High School in Visalia, California.

It is actually from the book "Dumbing Down our Kids" by Charles J. Sykes, 1995, and is directed at high school and college graduates.

Rule 1:
Life is not fair - get used to it


Rule 2:
The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself


Rule 3:
You will NOT make $40,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both


Rule 4:
If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss


Rule 5:
Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for burger flipping - they called it opportunity


Rule 6:
If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them


Rule 7:
Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parents' generation, try delousing the closet in your own room


Rule 8:
Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life


Rule 9:
Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do that on your own time!


Rule 10:
Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs


Rule 11:
Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one
 

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Dear Baby Boomers:

I'm going to raise my kid to think he's special. I'll never tell him "no". I won't force him to work. I'll send him to idiot bureaucrats and marxist professors for his education. In light of all this, I hereby relinquish my right to complain when he grows up to be a useless a**hole.

Most excellent, so much so, featured...

every single generation poorly understood the next generation and judged them by their differences, assuming that its generation is better than the newcomers.

Definitely true however I think this time it is truly different because of the technological advances in the last 25 years.

We are entering an unknown territory that involves a specific divergence in brain chemistry (as well as sociology) that has never been encroached before. We can't say that for the last 2,000 years.

While this pic show millennials, it's relevant for all of us.

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My take as a millennial:

We were fed all our lives this crap about how special we are and how we can be anything we want to be. Now we're being shit on for being stupid enough to believe it. Some of us are demanding that this 'special snowflake' environment be built for us in adulthood. They're dumb, but if you can't see why they're demanding it then you're even dumber than they are (or you just don't care).

At least some of us are starting to see it was all a lie and that we're no more special than any other generation before us.

Our script is still being written and I'll tell you: it's already a bunch of bullshit. No wonder we're munching Adderall to work, benzos to sleep, and opiates to numb the pain of our f*cked up fairy tale gone awry. (I'm a positive person I swear... lol)
 

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This was intended to be humor. I work with the maintenance crew every day. The amount of razzing we give each other would put this little song to shame. :)

All in fun people....
 

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I had no idea that millennials were such victims!

I'm technically a millennial (2nd year of the generation), but I only claim to be one when I need an excuse for my failures.
 
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In one sense, it is true that the system is rigged. But it's certainly not because of "muh capitalism!!!!11111"

Even though I grew up on a council estate (or what I think you would call the projects in the US), I never thought I was owed anything, or that someone else should give me their "fair share". When I was a kid I used to say that the difference between here and America is that here, people will see a Porsche and vandalise it. "Who does that rich prick think he is?!" Whereas in America they'll say "wow, nice Porsche. I wonder how I can become like that guy?". The younger me always wanted to move to America someday.

Apparently that America doesn't exist anymore.

When I very occasionally visit home, the same losers are still doing the same exact loser things they were 20 years ago. My dad's neighbour is always down the local pub, completely wasted in the middle of the day. I don't think she's ever worked a day in her life. Entitlement is cancer.

But back to the system. It might be rigged, but as MJ said it's also easier than ever to circumvent the same system. You don't even have to be an UNSCRIPTED Entrepreneur to do it.

You can pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, and live well working 10 hours a week.

Or you could pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, work 50 hours a week and save 80% of your income for a few years. You could leverage geo-arbitrage to live the fast-slowlane and retire in less than 10 years and live a minimalist lifestyle - if that's what you want. It's not for me but I totally get the appeal. It beats the hell out of being a cubicle jockey.

You can learn ANYTHING YOU WANT. For FREE. Right here on this beautiful, wondrous internet thing.

An old acquaintance of mine took to complaining on Faceache about how she wanted to be a writer and couldn't find any good jobs in writing. And how it was so unfair. In between bouts of gushing over Britain's new favourite Marxist politician. Last I checked she's still doing some menial job and complaining about how everything is unfair.

What the hell are you doing with your evenings, if you want to be a writer so much? Are you WRITING?!?!?!

Rhetorical question...

Even IF the system is rigged. Even IF the odds are stacked against you. Even IF the greedy-banker-capitalist-pigs-bourgeoisie-fatcats-whatever-BS is "keeping you down". Who's more likely to get what they want out of life - the one who believes they can do it, or the one who's already decided they can't?

On a non-ranty note, the very best millennials are busy creating a new and better world of freedom, opportunity and purpose. A world far greater than anything that's come before us. I'll drink to that.

Wow, I'd like to feature this but there are about 4 parts I'd like to feature!

What the hell are you doing with your evenings, if you want to be a writer so much? Are you WRITING?!?!?!

And this is my exact point -- decades ago she had a decent argument. If you wanted to write, you had to get a JOB or find a PUBLISHER -- in other words, you need PERMISSION to pursue your dream.

Today you can write your heart's content, throw it on Amazon, at let the MARKET tell you you are GOOD or BAD. Permission, not required. The gatekeepers are dead.
 
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I will leave you my two cents here as brain food.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”







...









Socrates
 
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This was intended to be humor. I work with the maintenance crew every day. The amount of razzing we give each other would put this little song to shame. :)

All in fun people....

What could you, old white man who spends all his time on the golf course, possibly understand of my triggered pain?
 

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On the other hand, if the interviewer represented that generation - they're also piss poor.
Don't worry about being piss poor. You'll do fine in the future. Right now is building your character. Adversity shapes the Entrepreneur. You're in the right place, you just have to go through the process, do your inner work, discipline your mind, focus, create, be innovative, take action. Time is everything. While you may be wanting to be there right now. You may not be ready. When you're ready, learned the wisdom, knowledge, and figure out what real power is, than your time will arrive.
 

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First Off, loved the video! It cracked me up! Now to the seriousness that this thread has become...

I am of millennial age but can't stand 90%+ of my generation. I don't care what excuse you give for why you are the way you are. You are now an adult and there is only one person who can change you... YOU!

It's always excuses about how "rigged" the system is, how everything cost morenow, how the 99% are hoarding all the wealth, etc. etc. etc. My 5 year old makes excuses why she can't pick up her toys. When you make excuses why you "can't" do something, you sound just like a 5 year old.
 

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I find this whole millennial "next generation" type conundrum fascinating.

As a milennial (24 y/o), I often admit that I sometimes feel out of place with my opinion on my generation.

The millennial generation is indicative of the baby boomers. They raised us. So, when someone from that generation offers a relatively negative outlook on millennials, I find it hilarious. You raised this generation after all. You created their foundation.

Now, I never received a "participant" trophy. Nobody ever coddled me. I lived in a hard-nose (competitive) world where if you didn't get it done, you sat on the bench (both literally and figuratively). It was like that up until college when I attended an extremely liberal school in an extremely liberal state - where opinions ran rampant and the victimhood mentality spread like a cancer.

The truth is, many millennials are not in the "real world" yet. Many don't realize that there aren't any "trigger warnings" on the streets. They've been (and remain) in classrooms where they're safe from having their "feelings hurt" because "authority figures" allow it.

Aside from the requests for societal handouts (healthcare, college tuition, etc.), awful taste in music, interest in digital forms of connectivity as opposed to in-person communication, and political "correctness" - this generation is really not that much different from those that precede and succeed it.

And as more millennials enter the "real world," their beliefs will shift from a utopian society to the reality of our current world.
 

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My take as a millennial:

We were fed all our lives this crap about how special we are and how we can be anything we want to be. Now we're being shit on for being stupid enough to believe it. Some of us are demanding that this 'special snowflake' environment be built for us in adulthood. They're dumb, but if you can't see why they're demanding it then you're even dumber than they are (or you just don't care).

At least some of us are starting to see it was all a lie and that we're no more special than any other generation before us.

Our script is still being written and I'll tell you: it's already a bunch of bullshit. No wonder we're munching Adderall to work, benzos to sleep, and opiates to numb the pain of our f*cked up fairy tale gone awry. (I'm a positive person I swear... lol)

Dear Baby Boomers:

I'm going to raise my kid to think he's special. I'll never tell him "no". I won't force him to work. I'll send him to idiot bureaucrats and marxist professors for his education. In light of all this, I hereby relinquish my right to complain when he grows up to be a useless a**hole.

Sincerely,

G-man.

PS: Since that's basically how you raised me, maybe, just maybe,... stop bitching? :clench:
 

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26 year old millennial here. I specifically remember losing every single game one year in little league baseball and getting a trophy that said "FIRST PLACE"... something seemed wrong.
 

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I dunno about you all, but I feel like I was born in the right place at the right time... for me. Maybe my nieces and nephews who are much younger than I will have it better, but that's for them, not for me.

It's harder for many people to do a lot of things, this is true. In many areas, house prices are out of reach for people making less than $100,000 a year (which is something like upper 10% of the population, not sure exact number). Youth unemployment or underemployment is very high and many places simply aren't hiring anymore.

But entrepreneurship is easier than ever for millennials. There's a reason there's such a push towards entrepreneurship for millennials. A large subset of people I know who work jobs also have a side gig of some sort. People with problems are easier to find than ever. You don't even need to pay to find them: they'll post on Kijiji or Craigslist.

If you're under 18 (so not really a millennial anymore, but inheriting the same F*cking problems as us later millennials), you can live a freer life by (1) avoiding debt, (2) working for yourself, and (3) living below your means. Avoid debt, then you're no one's slave: just pay your taxes. Work for yourself, then you maintain control in your dealings: you pick your bosses and you pick your jobs. Live below your means, then you can use the money you save to take a risk building a Fastlane.
 

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In one sense, it is true that the system is rigged. But it's certainly not because of "muh capitalism!!!!11111"

Even though I grew up on a council estate (or what I think you would call the projects in the US), I never thought I was owed anything, or that someone else should give me their "fair share". When I was a kid I used to say that the difference between here and America is that here, people will see a Porsche and vandalise it. "Who does that rich prick think he is?!" Whereas in America they'll say "wow, nice Porsche. I wonder how I can become like that guy?". The younger me always wanted to move to America someday.

Apparently that America doesn't exist anymore.

When I very occasionally visit home, the same losers are still doing the same exact loser things they were 20 years ago. My dad's neighbour is always down the local pub, completely wasted in the middle of the day. I don't think she's ever worked a day in her life. Entitlement is cancer.

But back to the system. It might be rigged, but as MJ said it's also easier than ever to circumvent the same system. You don't even have to be an UNSCRIPTED Entrepreneur to do it.

You can pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, and live well working 10 hours a week.

Or you could pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, work 50 hours a week and save 80% of your income for a few years. You could leverage geo-arbitrage to live the fast-slowlane and retire in less than 10 years and live a minimalist lifestyle - if that's what you want. It's not for me but I totally get the appeal. It beats the hell out of being a cubicle jockey.

You can learn ANYTHING YOU WANT. For FREE. Right here on this beautiful, wondrous internet thing.

An old acquaintance of mine took to complaining on Faceache about how she wanted to be a writer and couldn't find any good jobs in writing. And how it was so unfair. In between bouts of gushing over Britain's new favourite Marxist politician. Last I checked she's still doing some menial job and complaining about how everything is unfair.

What the hell are you doing with your evenings, if you want to be a writer so much? Are you WRITING?!?!?!

Rhetorical question...

Even IF the system is rigged. Even IF the odds are stacked against you. Even IF the greedy-banker-capitalist-pigs-bourgeoisie-fatcats-whatever-BS is "keeping you down". Who's more likely to get what they want out of life - the one who believes they can do it, or the one who's already decided they can't?

On a non-ranty note, the very best millennials are busy creating a new and better world of freedom, opportunity and purpose. A world far greater than anything that's come before us. I'll drink to that.

I'm reading this post during my lunch hour. I work as a freelancer and use the income to fund and grow my other businesses. At lunch time I always get slated by my colleagues. Whereas they go into the canteen and use the hour to talk about the weekend, complain about life or discuss a television programme I don't watch, I use this time to get on skype calls with my team and to talk them through what needs to be done, solve issues at-hand, or just to keep the team together.

All fine by me, however I make the conscious choice to use my time productively. To use my time to better my circumstances in life.

Same for my evenings/weekends. I choose to either work (and do that with 100% focus) or choose to use it as downtime with my girlfriend (again: focusing 100% on that then).

At the end of the day, that puts me in the driver seat and makes me responsible for my life. I give purpose and direction to it and don't let external circumstances dictate how I feel. Whenever life kicks you in the nuts again, you learn to deal with it.
 

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I will leave you my two cents here as brain food.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”
Here's back at you for posting this comment! Millennials are having depression because they key hearing this kind of crap on the Internet and offline. Fortunately the way out of Depression, learning manners, and learning respect, is respecting their emotional, mental, boundaries.

It's simple, respect another human being, you get respect. Lead by example, they follow! I have a Millennial son. He respects authority because I did exactly this.

Psychology of listening! Listening to the Millennials means hearing them! Right or wrong they're expressing themselves.

Not interrupting them. Valuing their existence! Treating them with respect even if they're reckless at times because they're young. Explaining why you believe what you do, why it works, and how it works, works well with them.

I don't treat them like children, but adults. I don't tell them what to do. I explain to them they have choices. There is a cause and effect to their actions. I don't judge them, I don't ridicule them, I don't tell them the negatives.

I point out their strengths, they're creativity. I teach them to focus on improving their lives. Direction and guidance, just like in fastlane. I point out books, videos, and websites where they can improve their lives. My son learned just from me sharing Fastlane since I started. I see the impact of it in him.

Why bashing Millennials backfires. They become more violent, destructive, rebellious, and fight. That's common sense. I really never understand why some Entrepreneurs know how Depression works, but insist on causing emotional and mental pain for the Hell of it, because it's not necessary.

They're not rebellious with me because I see them, hear them, and validate who they are in their experience. I don't baby them. I tell them how it is and why it's wrong. Usually they listen. They don't act helpless around me because I'm not victimizing them. For their to be a victim, you must play the role of persecutor, or judge. If you step out of those roles there is no victim or helplessness.

They don't always like what I say, but communication is key. How you communicate with them.

Negativity produces negativity. Negative outcomes!

They used to say my Generation X class of 89 was the worst class that ever came through our high school. I suppose when I look at the group I hang out with today, they're all Entrepreneurs, grew up, used their creativity, innovation, and artistic abilities. I'm sure the Baby Boomers understand quite well we did the same as the Millennials.

The Baby Boomers we're the rebels in the 1960's.

My Grandfather's generation was rebellious. He once told me he slicked back his hair with grease, wore a leather jacket, jeans, and hung out in his group. Started smoking as a young kid.

I believe every generation will have struggles with another generation. This is natural. In Gerontology they will talk about at the end of the elderly's life they don't understand the younger generations, think they've lost their manners, their rebellious, disobedient, wild and crazy.

Every generation lives in a different era, with different rules, different regulations, and different beliefs.

You even probably were a rebel at some point. It's human nature. Give Millennials some slack. They're young, growing, and developing. Give them ten or twenty years they'll be different just like you and I. That's maturing as young woman and young men.
 

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Can you not see the difference in work ethic and drive? It stands out to me like a black eye.

As a member of Generation Z I am triggered by your post because it hits me on a deep and uncomfortable level. The effort and work I have been putting into things isn't as high as I would like it to be.
 
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An old acquaintance of mine took to complaining on Faceache about how she wanted to be a writer and couldn't find any good jobs in writing. And how it was so unfair. In between bouts of gushing over Britain's new favourite Marxist politician. Last I checked she's still doing some menial job and complaining about how everything is unfair.

What the hell are you doing with your evenings, if you want to be a writer so much? Are you WRITING?!?!?!

This is so real and is permeated throughout our culture. It is disgusting. It's a prime example of people waiting for life to happen to them. They are waiting for their knight in shining armor to come along and sweep them off their feet to trot away on the pure white horse into the sunset. They are the people who watch CNN for hours and then bitch about the President and think that their opinion matters. They are the people who stand on the street corners with their poster boards thinking anyone cares. It makes me sick how disrespectful and self-centered a lot of the younger generation have become.

Also, Rep+ for Faceache. That gave me a laugh. I've unfollowed/blocked so many people on there because I can't stand their stupid, whining political rants.
 

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I'm more likely to believe that there are no meaningful differences in generations more than one in particular might be the embodiment of all our transgressions.

I've become obsessed lately with the idea that story is our pandemic - filters and biases that should be malleable but are incentivized to be rigid.

So I think "millennials" might be 90% marketing avatar, 10% accurate. The story of the lazy, entitled, narcissistic basement dweller is compelling and divisive, which leads to attention - which is the point.

I both agree and disagree you. The purpose of the story (Millenials) is to give people someone to blame for the system without questioning the system that created those people.

I know "the system" sounds like the language of an undergraduate conspiracy theory, and feel free to take it with a grain of salt. I hope it's evident the general point I'm trying to convey
 
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I agree that we are not special but it's basically true that we can be anything we want to be. That was true of previous generations as well though. It's just a parallel fact that the vast majority of the population lacks the drive to go out and become or achieve what they want out of life.
Can you not see the difference in work ethic and drive? It stands out to me like a black eye.
 

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