Millennials

[SteveO]

I see it as a partly causal relationship, work ethic stemming in part from a drive to succeed. Why does someone want to work hard? Do they just like to work? That might be the case for some, but I would submit that for the majority it is because of a drive to accomplish something important. The need to feel that your life has significance. Work is a big part of that for many.

Yes. To be the best and learn the most at what you do. That is what seems to be different.

I don't even know why I made that statement about work ethic. It was never my intention to start a serious discussion here. Perhaps I was "triggered".

 

[JWelch]

My wife doesn't shut the HELL up about essential oils!

 

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[luniac]

as in gun?

its an annoying millennial term
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Triggered

 

[GuestUser450]

I'm more likely to believe that there are no meaningful differences in generations more than one in particular might be the embodiment of all our transgressions.

I've become obsessed lately with the idea that story is our pandemic - filters and biases that should be malleable but are incentivized to be rigid.

So I think "millennials" might be 90% marketing avatar, 10% accurate. The story of the lazy, entitled, narcissistic basement dweller is compelling and divisive, which leads to attention - which is the point.

 

[Thiago Machado]

This made my night, haha! (It's catchy too).

 

[KSR]

I'm a part of that generation. We're admittedly piss poor.

On the other hand, if the interviewer represented that generation - they're also piss poor.

 

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[Dylan_91]

I got a kick out of this...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvIautoplay=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&iv_load_policy=3&rel=0

So i watched the video earlier, and 3 hours later I find myself humming mil len ni a lll...

 

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[psycho.cop]

Most excellent, so much so, featured...
Definitely true however I think this time it is truly different because of the technological advances in the last 25 years.

We are entering an unknown territory that involves a specific divergence in brain chemistry (as well as sociology) that has never been encroached before. We can't say that for the last 2,000 years.

While this pic show millennials, it's relevant for all of us.

I completely agree, there is way more changing now than it was before. However, to say which one is better or worse, can be quite difficult if not impossible.

For example, many millennials have done an outstanding job creating very disrupting services/products/technologies (Zuck, for starters). Yet, I don't see "Millenial success" as a trending topic within casual conversations around the globe. Unfortunately, it is not the same with this whole Millenial drama about being self-entitled or whatsoever.

And to be honest, I don't even think that typical Millenials traits are good or bad. The only thing I believe and can't be refuted is that, as time goes by, Millenials will become grown-ups (or most of them, hopefully). And they won't change.

So it is best to understand them as a generation and learn how to get things to work out with them, you know? In the context is this forum, why not learn how to make money with them instead of ranting? I know this topic has comic intentions, but I believe it might be a good opportunity to offer some insights for my fellow previous generation.

Moreover, generation Z is coming up as well - and way "worse" than us for that matter.

 

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[Vaughn]

One of the best interviews on this topic, I have seen so far:

 

[Contrarian]

 

[Contrarian]

Wow, I'd like to feature this but there are about 4 parts I'd like to feature!

Thanks for featuring my post MJ!

And this is my exact point -- decades ago she had a decent argument. If you wanted to write, you had to get a JOB or find a PUBLISHER -- in other words, you need PERMISSION to pursue your dream.

Today you can write your heart's content, throw it on Amazon, at let the MARKET tell you you are GOOD or BAD. Permission, not required. The gatekeepers are dead.

Spot on. And yet people like this would have us all live in a world where we need to grovel to the ordained and seek their permission to do absolutely anything. So long as the ordained keep the playpen stocked full of entertainment and booze.

Terrifying.

It's harder for many people to do a lot of things, this is true. In many areas, house prices are out of reach for people making less than $100,000 a year (which is something like upper 10% of the population, not sure exact number). Youth unemployment or underemployment is very high and many places simply aren't hiring anymore.

That's true. The flipside is, with decentralisation and remote working, there's no need to live in those areas anymore. And you'll always be in demand if you know how to solve problems. Entrepreneur or not.

The curious trend I've observed over the years is, the more "educated" people get, the stupider and more incapable of solving problems they tend to become.

All the cool kids move to cities live San Francisco, New York and London because that's what all the cool kids are doing. To me they're like black holes - traps to deprive you of your time, money and sanity whilst convincing you you're making it in the world.

Survey after survey shows that Londoners are by far the most miserable of all people in the UK. And yet legions of people continue to throw themselves willingly into the meat grinder. The respectable ones with families spend thousands of pounds a year to endure a three or four hour round trip commute from the well-heeled but soulless commuter towns populated exclusively by other commuting zombies. Baffling.

This is so real and is permeated throughout our culture. It is disgusting. It's a prime example of people waiting for life to happen to them. They are waiting for their knight in shining armor to come along and sweep them off their feet to trot away on the pure white horse into the sunset. They are the people who watch CNN for hours and then bitch about the President and think that their opinion matters. They are the people who stand on the street corners with their poster boards thinking anyone cares. It makes me sick how disrespectful and self-centered a lot of the younger generation have become.

Also, Rep+ for Faceache. That gave me a laugh. I've unfollowed/blocked so many people on there because I can't stand their stupid, whining political rants.

You are absolutely right sir. I used to get caught up in it before I realised it was a total waste of time and energy. Political people are almost always deeply unhappy people. I'm grateful that my mind is free and that I can now see it all for what it truly is - a theatrical production designed to dupe people into cheering for their own enslavement. But perhaps I'm in danger of veering into areas not for discussion on the forum.

Thank you for the rep.

I'm reading this post during my lunch hour. I work as a freelancer and use the income to fund and grow my other businesses. At lunch time I always get slated by my colleagues. Whereas they go into the canteen and use the hour to talk about the weekend, complain about life or discuss a television programme I don't watch, I use this time to get on skype calls with my team and to talk them through what needs to be done, solve issues at-hand, or just to keep the team together.

All fine by me, however I make the conscious choice to use my time productively. To use my time to better my circumstances in life.

Same for my evenings/weekends. I choose to either work (and do that with 100% focus) or choose to use it as downtime with my girlfriend (again: focusing 100% on that then).

At the end of the day, that puts me in the driver seat and makes me responsible for my life. I give purpose and direction to it and don't let external circumstances dictate how I feel. Whenever life kicks you in the nuts again, you learn to deal with it.

You'll go far. I think I just gave you back the same rep you gave me, but hey. Awesome stuff!

Now I think about it, there ought to be a rep tax! That way when we selfishly show appreciation for each others' contributions, we can give back to society by redistributing it to the exploited trolls and downtrodden spammers.

 

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[Mattie]

The truth is, many millennials are not in the "real world" yet. Many don't realize that there aren't any "trigger warnings" on the streets. They've been (and remain) in classrooms where they're safe from having their "feelings hurt" because "authority figures" allow it.

I think I have a headache from dealing with Millennials. You said it, they're not in the real world. Now when you believe you can throw out all the psychological forefathers, and eliminate all the research, and be young and only have text book experience, and say let's tear everything away, I cringe! These people don't know what they're looking for, popularity contest, let's be the same, fight anyone who disagrees with their rebellious nature, and it's kind of like a bunch of wild young people over eager to do something with purpose, but not have all the necessary ingredients to succeed. They're kind of just saying whatever they want to say, thinking their emotions and feelings make it right, if I express myself, it must make it truth, and right. If it didn't work for me it must not work for you. And if they're in lower consciousness, they're spreading this mindset tearing up even stuff we learn here in the Fast lane. This is going to be quite interesting the next few years I'd say.

They're not liking what we learn as Entrepreneurs, and then playing victim and how it's all unfair. Like some how they're going to break down the natural hierarchy of survival of the fittest. That's just a clear statement over the centuries. The strongest survive. It's not something you can change. Even in the animal kingdom. Nice illusion, but frankly I don't see the strongest bowing down to Millennials to soothe their emotions and feelings. I'm an INFJ. I know first hand, that doesn't happen. You're resilient or your not. End of story.

this generation is really not that much different from those that precede and succeed it.

There really not. They end up shutting up with me eventually, because they realize I'm a Mental Toughness coach and know my stuff. They have no discipline, want short-term gains, short-term pleasure, short-term gratification, without doing the work or going through life and go through the regular process of growth and development. Skip everything anyone ever said before them and any information prior to their existence doesn't know what they're talking about. This is more of a rant, but fortunately, they have a hard awakening with life doesn't work out for them the way they hope if will. This short-way of life seems kind of their down fall.

 

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[nyc217]

I got a kick out of this...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvIautoplay=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&iv_load_policy=3&rel=0

Hysterically true. I am a millennial, and unfortunately used to hold some of the beliefs the older generations find obnoxious. Thank God I have awakened; only after I read the cold hard truths in 'Unscripted '.

The sad part is 99 % of my friends and family, from my generation, are on a deep downward path that truly is a tragedy to see, because there doesn't seem to be an end in sight. (ie. cousins of mine who are one or two years away from turning 30 and still dependent on their parents, AND still believe they are going to be a millionaire before the 30 year old mark)

 

[Mineralogic]

I got a kick out of this...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvIautoplay=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&iv_load_policy=3&rel=0

great job by this dude. Great voice too

 

[JokerCrazyBeatz]

Lmao , I love it

 

[GoodluckChuck]

The dude asking her questions is rediculous...

 

[Mattie]

Dear Baby Boomers:

I'm going to raise my kid to think he's special. I'll never tell him "no". I won't force him to work. I'll send him to idiot bureaucrats and marxist professors for his education. In light of all this, I hereby relinquish my right to complain when he grows up to be a useless a**hole.

Sincerely,

G-man.

PS: Since that's basically how you raised me, maybe, just maybe,... stop bitching?

Right on! Generation X! 2017-2018 is our time to step up as leaders! And we have a lot to say world-wide!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RSLRtLhYGM

 

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[psycho.cop]

Here's back at you for posting this comment! Millennials are having depression because they key hearing this kind of crap on the Internet and offline. Fortunately the way out of Depression, learning manners, and learning respect, is respecting their emotional, mental, boundaries.

It's simple, respect another human being, you get respect. Lead by example, they follow! I have a Millennial son. He respects authority because I did exactly this.

Psychology of listening! Listening to the Millennials means hearing them! Right or wrong they're expressing themselves.

Not interrupting them. Valuing their existence! Treating them with respect even if they're reckless at times because they're young. Explaining why you believe what you do, why it works, and how it works, works well with them.

I don't treat them like children, but adults. I don't tell them what to do. I explain to them they have choices. There is a cause and effect to their actions. I don't judge them, I don't ridicule them, I don't tell them the negatives.

I point out their strengths, they're creativity. I teach them to focus on improving their lives. Direction and guidance, just like in fastlane. I point out books, videos, and websites where they can improve their lives. My son learned just from me sharing Fastlane since I started. I see the impact of it in him.

Why bashing Millennials backfires. They become more violent, destructive, rebellious, and fight. That's common sense. I really never understand why some Entrepreneurs know how Depression works, but insist on causing emotional and mental pain for the Hell of it, because it's not necessary.

They're not rebellious with me because I see them, hear them, and validate who they are in their experience. I don't baby them. I tell them how it is and why it's wrong. Usually they listen. They don't act helpless around me because I'm not victimizing them. For their to be a victim, you must play the role of persecutor, or judge. If you step out of those roles there is no victim or helplessness.

They don't always like what I say, but communication is key. How you communicate with them.

Negativity produces negativity. Negative outcomes!

They used to say my Generation X class of 89 was the worst class that ever came through our high school. I suppose when I look at the group I hang out with today, they're all Entrepreneurs, grew up, used their creativity, innovation, and artistic abilities. I'm sure the Baby Boomers understand quite well we did the same as the Millennials.

The Baby Boomers we're the rebels in the 1960's.

My Grandfather's generation was rebellious. He once told me he slicked back his hair with grease, wore a leather jacket, jeans, and hung out in his group. Started smoking as a young kid.

I believe every generation will have struggles with another generation. This is natural. In Gerontology they will talk about at the end of the elderly's life they don't understand the younger generations, think they've lost their manners, their rebellious, disobedient, wild and crazy.

Every generation lives in a different era, with different rules, different regulations, and different beliefs.

You even probably were a rebel at some point. It's human nature. Give Millennials some slack. They're young, growing, and developing. Give them ten or twenty years they'll be different just like you and I. That's maturing as young woman and young men.

I believe you have not read or understood my comment.

In plain English now – every single generation poorly understood the next generation and judged them by their differences, assuming that its generation is better than the newcomers.

This is such an old habit that even Socrates (dead 400 bC) has said this kind of things. In other words, there are differences. However, older people has always been close-minded and gave attention to their impressions of right or wrong instead of trying to understand how the new generation thinks.

So, I agree with you. But watch out – today was just about skipping the author of a quote; tomorrow could be significant cash going down the toilet.

And I am 23 years old.

 

[SteveO]

One of the best interviews on this topic, I have seen so far:

I had no idea that millennials were such victims!

 

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[Mattie]

We are entering an unknown territory that involves a specific divergence in brain chemistry (as well as sociology) that has never been encroached before. We can't say that for the last 2,000 years.

I think it's kind of exciting to be here on the earth right now and take part in things. You can say we're all like squadrons. Baby Boomers, Generation X, and Millennials! We all have our part to play! We can learn to work together or combat time.
We're making history! We're making the future! We're the front lines for a new and better world, or disaster for our future generations. Everything built up must be torn down. That's just the natural process.

Not the easiest thing for any of us. There's excitement, curiosity, anticipation, motivation, adventure, innovation, creation, but there's also knowing this is a challenge of a life time for everyone world-wide.

We are the pioneers making history!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hPlmsj1R4

 

[ravenspear]

My take as a millennial:

We were fed all our lives this crap about how special we are and how we can be anything we want to be. Now we're being shit on for being stupid enough to believe it. Some of us are demanding that this 'special snowflake' environment be built for us in adulthood. They're dumb, but if you can't see why they're demanding it then you're even dumber than they are (or you just don't care).

At least some of us are starting to see it was all a lie and that we're no more special than any other generation before us.

Our script is still being written and I'll tell you: it's already a bunch of bullshit. No wonder we're munching Adderall to work, benzos to sleep, and opiates to numb the pain of our f*cked up fairy tale gone awry. (I'm a positive person I swear... lol)

I agree that we are not special but it's basically true that we can be anything we want to be. That was true of previous generations as well though. It's just a parallel fact that the vast majority of the population lacks the drive to go out and become or achieve what they want out of life.

 

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[ravenspear]

Can you not see the difference in work ethic and drive? It stands out to me like a black eye.

I see it as a partly causal relationship, work ethic stemming in part from a drive to succeed. Why does someone want to work hard? Do they just like to work? That might be the case for some, but I would submit that for the majority it is because of a drive to accomplish something important. The need to feel that your life has significance. Work is a big part of that for many.

 

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[ravenspear]

Hmmm, I disagree.

A generation ago, if you wanted to write a book, you had to hope a publisher accepted you. Permission, needed. Today, you throw something up on Amazon.

If you wanted to put on your own TV show, you had to get a broadcaster / media corp to accept you. Permission, needed. Today, you throw something up on YouTube.

If you wanted to sell some product, you had to get a B&M store or distributor to accept your product. Permission, needed. Today you put it on your website and you have access to thousands, perhaps millions.

If you wanted to learn something, you had to find a school or a teacher. Permission, cash, needed. Today, you find the class anywhere on the web, or in videos on YouTube. Permission, and cash, not needed.

I can go on an on... but for ALL OF US (not just millenials) there is NO EXCUSE.

Years ago, it was a permission based world for opportunity.

That, for the most part, is GONE.

I'll agree that the barriers to entry are much lower today in many areas and as such there is perhaps more opportunity than there has been in the past to become what you want to be. But the opportunities were still there as evidenced by the fact that there are plenty of rags to riches stories about people who went out and achieved their dreams (whatever they were) in every generation. It's just easier to separate yourself from the pack today if you are intelligent and competent.

 

[Sully1994]

My wife doesn't shut the HELL up about essential oils!

LMFAO. Nor does my mother. God bless her.

 

[Dylan_91]

I must ask can someone define millennial? I say that hypothetically because the base definition can be altered, to one it may be someone born as a millennial but does that make them act as the common view of them? What is the common view? Can you judge a generation by viewpoints, or can you only judge the child or do you judge that in which he or she was brought up in. Is it the millennials fault? Is it the preceding generations fault? Is it 1000 years of evolutionary change that has began to transform? Is it identification with the ego and this endless stream for self satisfaction. Is it your idea of one or is it your idea of what you observe on the news? Is it a story your friend told you?

Collectively I don't like the term millennial because I think of a trophy for everyone mentality and coming from a once military lifestyle we would joke on such people. But when you really look into it, are we just pointing fingers at a generation or are we doing something towards bettering it? Have we identified with a state of mind that now blinds our assumptions of person? Is it the fact that we have identified with this idea of celebrity to the point where success means fame, or instant gratification has become our means? Can we blame the entrepreneur for the means of instant communication? Is it the parents fault? Is it the persons fault, why would a large majority of a generation act as such while others have not?

 

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[Mineralogic]

In one sense, it is true that the system is rigged. But it's certainly not because of "muh capitalism!!!!11111"

Even though I grew up on a council estate (or what I think you would call the projects in the US), I never thought I was owed anything, or that someone else should give me their "fair share". When I was a kid I used to say that the difference between here and America is that here, people will see a Porsche and vandalise it. "Who does that rich prick think he is?!" Whereas in America they'll say "wow, nice Porsche. I wonder how I can become like that guy?". The younger me always wanted to move to America someday.

Apparently that America doesn't exist anymore.

When I very occasionally visit home, the same losers are still doing the same exact loser things they were 20 years ago. My dad's neighbour is always down the local pub, completely wasted in the middle of the day. I don't think she's ever worked a day in her life. Entitlement is cancer.

But back to the system. It might be rigged, but as MJ said it's also easier than ever to circumvent the same system. You don't even have to be an UNSCRIPTED Entrepreneur to do it.

You can pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, and live well working 10 hours a week.

Or you could pick up a freelance skill and go and live in South East Asia, work 50 hours a week and save 80% of your income for a few years. You could leverage geo-arbitrage to live the fast-slowlane and retire in less than 10 years and live a minimalist lifestyle - if that's what you want. It's not for me but I totally get the appeal. It beats the hell out of being a cubicle jockey.

You can learn ANYTHING YOU WANT. For FREE. Right here on this beautiful, wondrous internet thing.

An old acquaintance of mine took to complaining on Faceache about how she wanted to be a writer and couldn't find any good jobs in writing. And how it was so unfair. In between bouts of gushing over Britain's new favourite Marxist politician. Last I checked she's still doing some menial job and complaining about how everything is unfair.

What the hell are you doing with your evenings, if you want to be a writer so much? Are you WRITING?!?!?!

Rhetorical question...

Even IF the system is rigged. Even IF the odds are stacked against you. Even IF the greedy-banker-capitalist-pigs-bourgeoisie-fatcats-whatever-BS is "keeping you down". Who's more likely to get what they want out of life - the one who believes they can do it, or the one who's already decided they can't?

On a non-ranty note, the very best millennials are busy creating a new and better world of freedom, opportunity and purpose. A world far greater than anything that's come before us. I'll drink to that.

finally we live in an age where an end run around media and banking system is possible with Youtube, and now Cryptocurrency

As a gen x-er I've never been as positive on this country as I am right now as far as being able to break out of the script