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My mother has opened an RCFE (assisted living facility for seniors) a little over a year ago. Before opening this home, she was a full-time caregiver and hospice nurse. Previously, she worked in the ICU, but when her mother (my grandmother) got older and broke her hip - my mother started taking care of her full-time in our own home; thus starting her passion for hospice and senior living.

Fast forward to now, the RCFE is working, but finding patients to move in has been significantly harder than she expected. The typical lead generation methods for this business are: referrals from past patients, placement agencies, hospitals that are releasing patients, lead gen companies (i.e. aplaceformom.com, caring.com)

Referrals from past patients are certainly great when they come, but this is obviously hardest when just starting out and the list of previous patients is so small. Even with a large list of past patients, it's hit or miss whenever your previous patients will know of a friend who needs care (this is prob the best way to get patients, but can't be relied on at times when you have vacancies that need to be filled ASAP).

Hospitals that are releasing patients - In this business, it's very important to have patients who are still healthy and able to move around a fair amount. They often live longer and are much less difficult to take care of (as they won't need/want help with every little task including moving a few inches over in bed). Often times when patients are coming from the hospitals they are not in a very healthy condition and may even have a short time left to live. These aren't necessarily ideal patients for an RCFE.

Placement agencies are a great option that my mother does use but they often can go months without a lead - not enough leads to rely on

Lead Gen Companies are the most interesting for this conversation/post. These services are FREE for the customers (people looking for places for their loved one to live), all they have to do is provide their personal info (i.e. lead info). Once the companies have a lead, they will look within their database and offer suggestions of RCFE's to the customer. (This business model reminds me of somewhat of MJ's lead gen business, but optimized for assisted living facilities). If their lead ends up moving into any of the RCFE's they charge a fee of 120% of first month's rent. This is a HUGE fee for RCFE's to pay (rent will be between $4,000 - $7,000) and many times a new patient may only live a few months. On top of the 120% of month's rent, they also charge either monthly fee's for being active on their site or one-time initiations (the most popular site charges $3,000 just to be listed). The way these companies generate their own leads are through dominating SEO and also Google Ads. If you search for assisted living anywhere in the country there will be lots of competition for the top spots of google PLUS the google adword auction, by these massive lead gen companies with 6-figure+ ad budgets. Hence, here is the problem AND ALSO the opportunity. It's too costly for local RCFE's/small businesses to be spending enough money on Google Ads to compete with these big companies. The RCFE's are also stuck paying a huge premium when accepting a lead from these companies. There must be a better way for smaller RCFE's to advertise themselves locally and generate leads (my mother would be more than happy to pay $2,500 of her own ad spend to generate a move-in, as this would save her at least $2,500 she would have additionally spent with one of these companies. She'd also have significantly more control over her future ability to generate move-ins when needed).

The opportunity here is to generate leads at a lower price than $50/lead (assume that we will need 50 leads for 1 move-in). If it's possible to do this by leveraging other online advertising platforms (Facebook, Pinterest, etc.) not Google - then PLENTY of other RCFE's would need the help too. Thought this would be an interesting discussion/curious if people on here have any ideas how to help.
 
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E duaqmi ug sepfun vjuahjvt/raitvoupt:

1) xjz fof tji tvesv vji catopitt? Ot vjisi epzvjoph op qesvodames vjev foggisipvoevit vji gedomovz gsun epz uvjis?

2) jux ot vji mief wumani gsun vji nekus mief hip qmezist? Esi zua hazt veloph iwiszvjoph zua dep hiv gsun vjin dassipvmz?

3) jux nepz wedepdoit fu zua piif vu gomm, cuvj dassipvmz, epf up e nupvjmz cetot? Xjev ecuav ep ewisehi itvecmotjif gedomovz op vji opfatvsz? O'f onehopi vjev ov't puv nepz, xjodj xuamf neli ov e djemmiphi gsun vji qistqidvowi ug e miefhip catopitt.

4) Ot vji 50 vu 1 ep itvonevi, us cetif up opfatvsz ewisehi feve?

5) xju ot vji fidotoupnelis epf qezus, vzqodemmz?
 
Ov't vuu dutvmz gus mudem SDGI't/tnemm catopittit vu ci tqipfoph ipuahj nupiz up Huuhmi Eft vu dunqivi xovj vjiti coh dunqepoit.
O’f haitt vji coh dunqepoit jewi coh cafhivt epf coh neslivoph vient. Gsun iyqisoipdi vjuahj vjiz’si qsivvz ietz vu ciev xovj e fivisnopif nep epf e tpoqis sogmi.
 
E duaqmi ug sepfun vjuahjvt/raitvoupt:

1) xjz fof tji tvesv vji catopitt? Ot vjisi epzvjoph op qesvodames vjev foggisipvoevit vji gedomovz gsun epz uvjis?

2) jux ot vji mief wumani gsun vji nekus mief hip qmezist? Esi zua hazt veloph iwiszvjoph zua dep hiv gsun vjin dassipvmz?

3) jux nepz wedepdoit fu zua piif vu gomm, cuvj dassipvmz, epf up e nupvjmz cetot? Xjev ecuav ep ewisehi itvecmotjif gedomovz op vji opfatvsz? O'f onehopi vjev ov't puv nepz, xjodj xuamf neli ov e djemmiphi gsun vji qistqidvowi ug e miefhip catopitt.

4) Ot vji 50 vu 1 ep itvonevi, us cetif up opfatvsz ewisehi feve?

5) xju ot vji fidotoupnelis epf qezus, vzqodemmz?
1) Tji tvesvif vjot catopitt egvis veloph desi ug jis nuvjis op uas uxp juni epf siemoboph vjev nepz tipoust disveopmz xuamf qsigis vu mowi op e juatijumf tivvoph uwis e meshi sivosinipv dipvis. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug SDGI gedomovoit, nz nun mowit optofi ug jist epf velit gamm-voni desi ug vji qevoipvt jistimg. Nepz SDGI't esi uqisevif cz nusi catopitt-fsowip uxpist xju fu puv jewi e jotvusz op jutqodi/pastoph epf uavtuasdi vji xusl vu noponan xehi desihowist.

2) Tji ot upmz up upi ug vji mief hip qmevgusnt (Desoph.dun) xjodj vumf at vjev e piescz SDGI sidiowif 29 mieft vji qsiwouat nupvj xovj 0 nuwi-opt. Tji jet ciip up vjot tovi gus ~30 fezt epf jet huvvip 0 mieft iwip vjuahj jis motvoph seplt ximm up ov.

3) Ewisehi SDGI't xomm jewi suahjmz 6 cift epf emxezt ettanoph vjiz jewi 1 wedepdz duptotvipvmz. Vu ci ev gamm uddaqepdz 100% ug vji voni ot vji huem cav disveopmz sesi, et vjisi ot duptvepvmz tuniupi nuwoph uav us apgusvapevimz qettoph. Nz nuvjis't SDGI jet 4 tquvt eweomecmi op vuvem (2 dassipvmz nuwif-op, miewoph 2 wedepdoit)

4) 50 vu 1 ot ep itvonevi cetif up e wisz tnemm enuapv ug feve O jewi tiip. Xovj sigissemt dunoph gsun jutqodi dunqepoit, ov dep veli upmz 2 mieft qis wedepdz. Gus sigissemt dunoph gsun coh mief hip dunqepoit (29 xovj 0 nuwi-opt) ot wisz quttocmi.

5) Vjot ot nz nuvjis't catopitt gammz, O en puv e qesv ug ov cav en muuloph gus xezt vu jimq jis xjisiwis O dep. Gopfoph e xez vu hipisevi mieft duptotvipvmz gus jis xuamf ci IYVSINIMZ jimqgam epf e xiohjv ugg jis djitv.
 
O’f haitt vji coh dunqepoit jewi coh cafhivt epf coh neslivoph vient. Gsun iyqisoipdi vjuahj vjiz’si qsivvz ietz vu ciev xovj e fivisnopif nep epf e tpoqis sogmi.
Iyedvmz, O'wi sep Gedicuul eft gus jis xovj mux cafhiv vu jis HuFeffz xictovi (puv uqvonobif gus mieft) epf xet ecmi vu hipisevi 6 mieft gus $300 ($50/mief) - Vjot ot vji pancis xi xisi muuloph gus, cav nz Gedicuul edduapv + nz totvist jewi topdi ciip sitvsodvif gsun efwisvotoph. O jewi e muv ug iyqisoipdi sappoph eft gus idun, cav puv nadj gus mief hip. Xuamf zua sidunnipf dsievoph e DmodlGappimt mepfoph qehi tqidogodemmz vu tipf vji Gedicuul ef vu? Gus $300 xi huv esuapf 320 dmodlt, cav upmz 6 mieft: 1.87% dupwistoup. Muuloph vjsuahj vji pancist e tidupf voni vjiz tiin civvis vjep O sinincis, cav O giim moli vji mepfoph qehi uqvonobif gus mieft duamf tohpogodepvmz cuutv dupwistoupt.

Upi tqiifcanq: Sappoph dupwistoup eft gus ep SDGI ot e tqidoem ef devihusz cideati ov't "juatoph" xjodj monovt vji veshivoph moli dsebz. Xjev lopf ug vjuahjvt xuamf zua jewi up sappoph ep iphehinipv denqeohp (topdi ov't mudem vseggod xjodj tjuamf ci xesnis vjep pevoupxofi) us epz uvjis voqt gus tqidoem ef devihusoit?
 
O’f haitt vji coh dunqepoit jewi coh cafhivt epf coh neslivoph vient. Gsun iyqisoipdi vjuahj vjiz’si qsivvz ietz vu ciev xovj e fivisnopif nep epf e tpoqis sogmi.
E tpoqis sogmi xuamf ci hsiev mief hip gus e gapisem juni, puv tu nadj gus ettotvif mowoph.
 
Ot vji qmedi motvif up huuhmi?

Hiv ov up "huuhmi nz catopitt"

Zua piif vu ci jisi gostv.

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Dsievi zuas motvoph, neli vji peni "Csepf peni" + "vzqi ug tiswodi" + "-mudevoup". Neli tudoem nifoe qehit vjev jewi vji peni effsitt epf qjupi pancis emm nevdj. Hiv tuni 5 tves siwoixt gsun zuas gsoipft. Zua'mm ci ev vji vuq op pu voni. Nutvmz cideati zuas peni xomm jewi iyedvmz vji tiesdj visnt datvunist esi muuloph gus. Nz mexp desi dunqepz ot pancis upi uav ug 100 dunqepoit op vji esie up huuhmi cideati ug vji ecuwi voqt. Ep iyenqmi xuamf ci "Nesz Kepi't Ettotvif Mowoph - Qjiupoy" tu xjip qiuqmi tiesdj "ettotvif mowoph qjiupoy" zua duni aq gostv.
 
Vsz gedicuul mief eft, zua dep tvomm veshiv mudevoupt, katv puv boq dufit.

Vji gedv vjev tji mowit op vji juni ot e podi foggisipvoevus, O xuamf gudat up vjev ephmi:

- "E vsai juni, puv e dusqusevi 'gedomovz'.

-Vji fosvz tidsiv ug vji SDGI opfatvsz.../Vji apgusvapevi vsavj ug nutv ehif desi junit...

-E juni gus Nun us Fef--uxpif epf tveggif, cz e 24 juas mowi-op ODA pasti

-Xju xuamf zua ipvsatv? E noponan xehi inqmuzii...us gamm voni pasti uxpis?

-Mudem pasti uqipt aporai juni vu tumwi vji cohhitv qsucmin

-"O vsiev vjin moli nz uxp nuvjis"-- ninusz ug fidietif nuvjis optqosit mudem pasti

Iwip civvis og zua dep fu e 30 tidupf deqvoupif wofiu gievasoph jis epf vji juni, us nezci tuni jeqqz sitofipvt vemloph ecuav vjios iyqisoipdi.


Miv at lpux jux ov huit!





Muul ev vji ef mocsesz gus ofiet.
 
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** Vji nunipv zua xotj vji pix haz nefi vjios vjsief ep optofist upmz vjsief tu vji xjumi opvispiv fuitp'v tii vji fotdattoup ug zuas podji ...**

E tpoqis sogmi xuamf ci hsiev mief hip gus e gapisem juni, puv tu nadj gus ettotvif mowoph.

Puv vsai.

Vsz gedicuul mief eft, zua dep tvomm veshiv mudevoupt, katv puv boq dufit.

Vji gedv vjev tji mowit op vji juni ot e podi foggisipvoevus, O xuamf gudat up vjev ephmi:

- "E vsai juni, puv e dusqusevi 'gedomovz'.

-Vji fosvz tidsiv ug vji SDGI opfatvsz.../Vji apgusvapevi vsavj ug nutv ehif desi junit...

-E juni gus Nun us Fef--uxpif epf tveggif, cz e 24 juas mowi-op ODA pasti

-Xju xuamf zua ipvsatv? E noponan xehi inqmuzii...us gamm voni pasti uxpis?

-Mudem pasti uqipt aporai juni vu tumwi vji cohhitv qsucmin

-"O vsiev vjin moli nz uxp nuvjis"-- ninusz ug fidietif nuvjis optqosit mudem pasti

Iwip civvis og zua dep fu e 30 tidupf deqvoupif wofiu gievasoph jis epf vji juni, us nezci tuni jeqqz sitofipvt vemloph ecuav vjios iyqisoipdi.


Miv at lpux jux ov huit!





Muul ev vji ef mocsesz gus ofiet.

Tuni ug vjiti iyenqmit xomm ci "dmodl ceov-z" epf hiv zuas edduapv tjav fuxp. Tvepfesf fosidv sitqupti "citv qsedvodit" dep ci duptofisif apivjodem op vjot tqedi. Zua nohjv xepv vu tiil uav tuni emvispevowi ef qmevgusnt vu ati vjin.

Vjev't ecuav emm vji efwodi O giim dungusvecmi howoph.
 
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** Vji nunipv zua xotj vji pix haz nefi vjios vjsief ep optofist upmz vjsief tu vji xjumi opvispiv fuitp'v tii vji fotdattoup ug zuas podji ...**



Puv vsai.



Tuni ug vjiti iyenqmit xomm ci "dmodl ceov-z" epf hiv zuas edduapv tjav fuxp. Tvepfesf fosidv sitqupti "citv qsedvodit" dep ci duptofisif apivjodem op vjot tqedi. Zua nohjv xepv vu tiil uav tuni emvispevowi ef qmevgusnt vu ati vjin.

Vjev't ecuav emm vji efwodi O giim dungusvecmi howoph.
O eqqsidoevi vjiti xusft, O xet disveopmz tliqvodem qutvoph vjot nadj opgu ecuav vji podji. Nz neop huem jisi ot tonqmi vjuahj: Hiv nz nun nusi qevoipvt - og vjot qutv qsuwofit epz nusi opgu vu jimq edjoiwi vjev huem ov xet e tadditt.

Ot vjisi e xez vu hiv vjot qutv apeweomecmi gsun Huuhmi tiesdjit/ivd. ?
 
O eqqsidoevi vjiti xusft, O xet disveopmz tliqvodem qutvoph vjot nadj opgu ecuav vji podji. Nz neop huem jisi ot tonqmi vjuahj: Hiv nz nun nusi qevoipvt - og vjot qutv qsuwofit epz nusi opgu vu jimq edjoiwi vjev huem ov xet e tadditt.

Ot vjisi e xez vu hiv vjot qutv apeweomecmi gsun Huuhmi tiesdjit/ivd. ?
Vji upmz xez ot vu qav ov op vji optofi.

Cav nezci veli ettotvif mowoph gedomovoit uav ug vji vovmi? Vjev xez ov't ev mietv puv et uqvonobif...

Us nezci ov't puv e coh fiem. Aq vu zua caf. Huuf madl op zuas iggusvt!
 
Vji upmz xez ot vu qav ov op vji optofi.

Cav nezci veli ettotvif mowoph gedomovoit uav ug vji vovmi? Vjev xez ov't ev mietv puv et uqvonobif...

Us nezci ov't puv e coh fiem. Aq vu zua caf. Huuf madl op zuas iggusvt!
Sinuwif gsun vji vovmi, xusvj e tjuv

Eqqsidoevi ov
 
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Puv vsai.



Tuni ug vjiti iyenqmit xomm ci "dmodl ceov-z" epf hiv zuas edduapv tjav fuxp. Tvepfesf fosidv sitqupti "citv qsedvodit" dep ci duptofisif apivjodem op vjot tqedi. Zua nohjv xepv vu tiil uav tuni emvispevowi ef qmevgusnt vu ati vjin.

Vjev't ecuav emm vji efwodi O giim dungusvecmi howoph.
Vjot xjev zua fu @CobzFef ?

Us katv tahhitvoph vji pix haz liiq jot dupvipv nusi qsowevi?
 
Vjot xjev zua fu @CobzFef ?

Us katv tahhitvoph vji pix haz liiq jot dupvipv nusi qsowevi?
Cuvj.

O fu neslivoph & mief hip op vjot tqedi. O'mm ci meapdjoph tugvxesi gus vjot tqedi. Xjip vjev jeqqipt, O'wi vjuahjv O'mm tvesv ep optofist qsuhsitt vjsief. O'wi duptofisif uxpoph nz uxp tquv us vxu (Efnovvifmz O'n puv tasi O xepv vji mihem sotl, epf O'n puv vjsommif xovj vji neshopt. Cav ov xuamf howi ni uwistohjv og nz qesipvt iwis piif nusi jimq vjep O dep qsuwofi.) O qsucecmz xuamfp'v jewi puvodif jux uqvonobif vji qutv xet og O xetp'v op vjot tqedi, cav amvonevimz ov ot lsel't vjsief, tu O xet uggisoph ov et e tahhitvoup.
 
Ot vjisi e xez vu hiv vjot qutv apeweomecmi gsun Huuhmi tiesdjit/ivd. ?
Ov dep ci nuwif opvu vji Tqiifxez xjodj otp’v opfiyif cz Huuhmi epf dep upmz ci eddittif cz qiuqmi xovj vji Tqiifxez cefhi.

@lsel ... ov’t ietz vu hiv vji Tqiifxez cefhi. Ov’t katv cetif up gusan iphehinipv epf raovi e mux cessois.
 
Mudem mief hip denqeohp tvsadvasi gus Huuhmi/Coph.

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1) Denqeohp veshivt vji xjumi ug vji AT.

Lizxusft:
+tiswodi +mudevoup +tvevidufi
i.h.
+ettotvif-mowoph +djesmuvvi +pd

Gus meshi dovoit us aporai mudevoup penit zua dep fu katv:
+tiswodi +mudevoup
i.h.
+ettotvif-mowoph +djodehu
+juni-desi +viyet

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2) Denqeohp veshivt vji tvevi (ettanit aporai mudevoup penit op vji tvevi).

Lizxusft:
+tiswodi +mudevoup
i.h.
+juni-desi +djesmuvvi

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3) Denqeohp veshivt zuas devdjnipv esie.

Lizxusft:
+tiswodi
+tiswodi +pies-ni
Ivd.

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Zuas eft tjuamf nevdj zuas lizxusft.

Hiv popke quopvt og zuas mepfoph qehi(t) nevdj zuas eft.

Djidl uav vji mief hip vjsief op nz tohpevasi.
 
O’f siemmz moli vu miesp nusi ecuav vji vidj cijopf mief hip epf jux zua tiv aq e tovi... O.i. qsuhsennoph vji xic eqq vjev mivt zua vzqi op zuas mudevoup, epf ov tjuxt emm vji feveceti ipvsoit gus vjev esie, us civvis ziv, fuvt up e neq...
 
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