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It's quite noticeable that many of you are just so undereducated on the topic that there shouldn't have been this topic to begin with.

I don't mean to boast but, what's going to happen when collective humanity finds out the truth about Marijuana?
 

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Gad, this thread brings back memories . . .

All of the self-justified logic, the self-conscious defensiveness . . .

. . . the sheer chutzpa of smoking an illegal substance, and wanting to shout about it to the world . . .

That was me, at 20.

Or 25.

Or even 27 (but by then, I had learned to not shout about it quite so much).

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I understand your points, Sonya.

Thanks for clarifying. :)

I guess for me, this thread says so much-- it's like poetry.

The real story is in the nuances of these posts. How people feel about it, and express themselves.

-Russ H.
 

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Russ, you need to lighten up man... you should just come vape this ultra potent Mendo bud with me and listen to sum Garcia. I got light violet buds with a hologram effect. My buds transition from light violet to pearl blue while retaining it's light orange hue. It's my own special strain I grow out in Mendo. It is comprised of every color in the rainbow... while viewed at a certain angle.

Come on Russ, have you ever smoked "Marijuana" cultivated the ancient-Mayan way? ;)
 

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haha what sorta vape do you have Bryan?
I love my "da buddha" vape, and i'm thinking about buying an Iolite soon :)

And yeah, do ya think that maybe everyone has a negative opinion of weed 'cause all they ever smoked was schwag?
 

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CrazyPenguin said:
do ya think that maybe everyone has a negative opinion of weed 'cause all they ever smoked was schwag?
I'm sure more than a few ex-weed smokers laughed at that one.

C'mon guys.

Do you really think that the bud being grown right now is the best that's ever been?

Or is that just what you want to believe, b/c the lifetime stoners tell you it's the best (hint: memory-wise, your most recent toke seems way better than one you took a year ago).

Do I miss smoking pot?

Yeah. Made shitty stuff seem much better than it was (food, sex, work, life in general).

Do I want to ever go back to smoking weed?

No.

My life without it is so much better, there is no comparison.

MJ put it well:

I prefer to get high on life, and not use a middle man.

But that's just me.

-Russ H.
 

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oh hell no, not for one second do I think that the weed now is the best stuff out there. In fact from my conversations with stoners my fathers age or older, I have no doubt that some of the South American and Thai strains from the 60's/70's and 80's are/were much much stronger and more "psychedelic" than even some of the "best" stuff out there now. But I'd kinda doubt that EVERYONE was smoking Panama Red, Colombian Gold, Thai Stick, etc., just like not everyone these days is smoking AK47, Kali Mist, or Cheese.

Maybe I'm wrong and everyone back then was smoking the same stuff, I don't know, unfortunatly I wasn't around for those days.
Perhaps what I mean to say is that maybe a few of the people who are against it now because they didn't enjoy it then, just weren't smoking the right type of weed for them. Note that I said "a few of the people", because I realize that obviously weed isn't for everybody, and thats fine.
I just know that every now and then I'll get a bag that gives me a stuffy nose, a dry mouth, and makes me feel like doggie poo.... and other times I get a bag that tastes like grapefruit, doesn't give me the munchies, puts me in a GREAT mood and makes me wanna GET STUFF DONE!
And a lot of time its somewhere inbetween!

I realize in my previous post I said "Everyone" where I should have, and meant to say "Some people", and for that I appologize
 

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Randallg99 said:
this is a ridiculous thread
Indubitably.

:jackson::jackson::jackson:

-Russ H.
 

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I highly recommend the movie: Union: The business behind getting high to everyone who wants to learn more about this issue.


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It seems when people learn the truth, they will make the conscious choice on the issue without much debate.
 
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The LEGAL side of the industry itself is being pioneered right now, thanks to CNBC's push to get this emerging multi-billion dollar industry before the public's eye in a more positive light. Several states are starting to go medicinal-use and legal and creative entrepreneurs are capitalizing BIG. An example that I know of that is here in Michigan in the City of Southfield, is a school that recently emerged that teaches LEGAL card holders how to grow, and there was just a writeup about the founder of the school and guess what? He's making $80,000 month! Yes the medicinal industry is currently in the wild west stage with the confusion and slippery slopes of law, but this is a new and emerging multi-billion dollar industry that is there for the LEGAL taking, and before the market saturates with a Phillip Morris or something of the like, it may be worth taking a look at it it fits within ones values.

Myself personally, I truly believe that within 5-10 years the varieties of quality will parallel the same acceptances as those similar to the varieties of fine wines.

A fastlane idea perhaps for some?
 
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Emerging companies: Introducing... OTCBB ticker symbol: CBIS

...it's coming
 

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haha what sorta vape do you have Bryan?
I love my "da buddha" vape, and i'm thinking about buying an Iolite soon :)

And yeah, do ya think that maybe everyone has a negative opinion of weed 'cause all they ever smoked was schwag?
Even Cigarettes are now socially unacceptable. They're disgusting, and if you smoke cigs -- You offend over 50% of the population who do not. It makes you stink, it makes your breath terrible, and it makes your teeth yellow. It's annoying when I can hear your "Doc Holliday" smokers cough 5 cubes down in the office. If you are dating, your "dating pool" is shrinking each year, if you continue to smoke cigs... If you want to be a success in business, do you really think it's a good idea that you smoke anything?

On the other hand -- Alcohol in moderation is still socially acceptable, and it will remain so for the forseeable future. I know it makes you dopers bitter about the unfairness of it all, but it's a simple truth... Time to wake up to reality folks, and just accept it. You're not going to make it socially acceptable for someone to light up a joint at a black tie dinner. It just ain't happening folks.... Not even on the balcony!

Cheers,

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John has many good points, and I'm going to tell you something a little controversial. If any job you ever apply for asks if you've ever done pot, lie.

*Edit: And now I go back to read the rest of the thread. Had to say that before I forgot my point.
 
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Marijuana is money. If you have it, you have exchangeable wealth. This is the primary reason it is illegal.

Nothing makes it Socially Unacceptable or Socially Acceptable other than the Beliefs of the Society at large.
 

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Wow, you know I didn't know just how old this thread was when I replied earlier.

To keep to the spirit of the year past, I guess I'll explain my own viewpoint a little bit.

1: The people I grew up with don't have much aspiration. Lower middle-class with plenty of "welfare bums". The situation is good enough that the crime is low, but bad enough that the social structure breeds anti-success.
Anyway, some of them are pot smokers of various degrees. Without aspiration, the drug helps to increase the value of their time. It reduces petty drama significantly (unlike the drinkers I know.) It doesn't seem to particularly cause the lack of aspiration itself, but it doesn't help them.

2: Yes, I know a few burnouts. Most of the pot smokers I know are fine, but a few of them are basically a waste of skin now. Is it from pure pot, or pot cut with other stuff? I don't know. I do know that some of the dealers around here aren't exactly moral enough to not lace it with something... Even if it's something as simple as hairspray to make it sticky.

3: So is it a good or bad thing? Bad, if you're addicted. Yes, you can be addicted just the same as I'm addicted to pop. No, I'm not addicted to the caffeine. Light sodas make me just as happy as dark. (in Canada, it's illegal to caffeinate clear soda. Too bad, it made mountain dew awesome.)
... I sincerely believe the people I know who have no aspiration would be better off gaining some, but I doubt most of them have the ability. They might as well enjoy all the borrowed high they can get. It makes them easier to be around. They think all the philosophetical gibberish and swirly art they produce on it is significant... It makes things better, but it doesn't promote growth and enrichment of the community nor individual.
So to answer myself, it has good and bad aspects.

Speedingpenguine might be the exception to my experiences and observations. But then, I don't know if Speeding is raised with the same general mentality and ethic of my peers or not and that can make all the difference in the world.
 

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You are so right,I was once told "you are who you hang with"!! It is illegal and if you plan to move forward in life, get rid of it!! Let me pose this question to you, when you finally have your life wealth built up and a great company, what happens when you finally get caught with it? You are back to where you started, with nothing. And ponder this, everything we do in the dark eventually comes to the light!! If you want to move forward with life and live it to the fullest until it overflows, then do it with clean hands and a pure heart and you will be blessed in everything that you do!! And remember as you are blessed always give to those that are in need of your help. Lead your life generously so those around you will be generous back to you.
 

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Nothing makes it Socially Unacceptable or Socially Acceptable other than the Beliefs of the Society at large.
That is exactly correct, and society at large believes you shouldn't do it. Until that reality changes, you're screwed my friend... And I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Cheers,

- Hakrjak
 

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Here a view links about cannabis!! Check them out, they are EYE-OPENING!! :p

What Everybody Should Know About Cannabis

YouTube - What Everybody Should Know About Cannabis

Why Marijuana Remains Illegal

YouTube - Why Marijuana Remains Illegal

The True Reason Pot is Illegal

YouTube - The True Reason Pot is Illegal

Here an other link about hennep:

Marijuana and Hemp Story: Introduction (Page 1 of 10)

"United States Presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp, used products made from hemp, and praised the hemp plant in some of their writings. Under the laws written by today's politicians, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson would be considered a threat to society--they would be arrested and thrown in prison for the felony crime of growing plants."

The fathers of the United States used hemp. Even the Constitution of the United States was written on hemp so be a patriot and smoke!! :p

That's just a joke, but if you want to smoke, smoke the damn plant!! :p

You don't need to worry if it's possible to smoke and have success.

Life isn't a marathon!!

You must also relax for having success and pot can give you that!! :p
Without relaxing you can't achieving anything!! It's one of the key elements that divide the best athletes of the world with just good athletes. If you want more information about that you must read the book of Tony Schwartz - The Power Of Full Engagement.

Amazon.com: The Power of Full Engagement: Managing Energy, Not Time, Is the Key to High Performance and Personal Renewal (9780743226752): Jim Loehr, Tony Schwartz: Books

I highly recommend this book!!
Tony Schwartz says that time isn't our main asset, but energy!!
And in my opinion he's right!!

LOVE, Light & Peace
Zipan
 

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Wow, that's a hell of a necro
 

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Ah, the pot thread resurfaces . . .

Zipan, did you even bother *reading* the previous pages? Your links are redundant.

-Russ H.
 

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I have no problem with people who smoke weed as a lifestyle. I do hate when people proselytize it and complain nonstop about how it should be legalized and the benefits of it and blah, blah, blah. The people who fight for it are just as annoying as the people who fight against it.
 

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I hate to proselytize like a dirty hippy but I'm one of the people who thinks it should be legalized and taxed like crazy. I think it's less harmful than alcohol and most of the prescription drugs found in any given medicine cabinet, but most people don't know how to make oxycodone or brew beer in their backyards like they do marijuana; therefore, it creates major competition for huge industries with no one really left to capitalize on the commodity but tax payers and the deficit if it's controlled properly. This is why big pharma and beer companies, or what have you, aggressively lobby against the legalization of pot. If I were a real hippy I'd tell you how great hemp is.

As far as it hindering success goes, I think for the most part it does but no more than it would for someone who did pills or drank just as much as they who smoke. I used to have a job that did surprise drug tests so I stopped smoking it, although I still hung around those who did, but now that I don't get tested anymore my rule is that I don't pay for it or posses it. Once in a while if I'm out somewhere and it's offered to me, then sure why not - I don't want to be a stiff!
 

Knowledge Kick

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Well put Drew. Like I said, I have nothing against it and I knew that it's not even as harmful as most prescription drugs. I just hate when people push too hard at either side of the issue.
 

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. . . Once in a while if I'm out somewhere and it's offered to me, then sure why not - I don't want to be a stiff!
Yep.

Talk to folks in rehab. That's how most got started-- peer pressure, being "in", and having fun.

Nothing wrong w/any of that-- but one thing:

The longer you live your life floating around on what other people think, the harder it's going to be for you to chart your own course.

Do what YOU want to do.

But figure out what that is, first.

-Russ H.
 

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Would you say the same thing to someone who has a drink if they happen to be at a friends house? To me it's the equivalent of someone offering you a beer if your watching a football game. I can understand where your coming from though, as I've seen it lead people to pills and cocaine. I was around a load of different crap for a while but never touched it, now I don't associate myself with anyone who does anything but drink and smoke the occasional joint.
 

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It's easy to say that smoking pot leads to harder drugs but I think it's more accurate to say smoking cigaretts leads to doing other drugs. Lets all remember that cigaretts are drugs and very addictive.
 
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A friend from high school days friended me on facebook recently and when I logged in a couple nights ago he had posted on his page that one of the guys from back in the day died over the weekend and I asked what happened and he told me that he quit all of the drugs years ago and became a full blown alcoholic which apparently took his life. I never knew he had a problem with drugs or alcohol for that matter but the point here is that his life was ended by an addiction to alcohol, and he was young.

I'm not making an argument for or against marijuana, and there are so many dynamics to this, but the reality is alcohol has been legal for around 90 years and it just claimed another life. Addiction is the problem.
 

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Prohibition of mind altering substances in general needs to stop.

It's not a war on drugs, its a war on personal freedoms. If they really cared to stop it they would try to curb demand.

Prohibition CREATES demand! Cocaine is damn near worthless in Columbia.

Tell a human not to do something or they can't have something and guess what? They just want it more. And we do this to people from an early age. It all starts with the D.A.R.E. program. Send the cop into the classroom to demonize and lie about these substances, their effects, and their consequences. The end result? Kids who are now more curious about these substances AND completely misinformed about them!

Drug education should not come from police officers, and needs to be taken seriously and treated with respect. Altering ones consciousness can have many profound benefits. Like anything we consume, moderation and respect is key.

What if people were educated about drugs and based their decision to do them on information and logic, not fear and scare tactics?

Bill Hicks anyone? [R rated for language]

[video=youtube;vX1CvW38cHA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA[/video]
 

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