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Remember when you were a kid playing games or sports with other kids?

Did you ever come across someone who cheated?

Did they ever say "It's just a game."

... meaning it's not "real"

... so cheating doesn't matter?


You know how I'd always respond?

"If it's just a game then why can't you play properly?"



"How you do anything is how you do everything."



You're in a forum, possibly anonymously because you value your privacy.

You might not realise it yet, but you're here to build relationships with other real-life-people.

You might not realise it yet, but business is all about building relationships.



If you're anonymous in an online forum, then you have a choice to be better than you are normally.

You can choose to be the person you strive to be in your "real" life.

Or you can choose to be worse than you would be in real life or, at best, the same.

You could even choose to be an arse-hole if you want.

Don't be so naive to think everyone else isn't forming an opinion of you by the way you interact with others.

Don't be so naive to think you aren't building relationships with other forum members with every single interaction (or lack of) on the forum.



I choose to be the best version of myself that I can be.

I choose to raise the bar for myself, and then be the person in real life that you believe I am from my "persona" in the forum.

Gosh, I even swear in real life. Bet you didn't think that eh?

I choose to be the man I want my sons to grow up to be.



As always, the same choices and actions result in the same outcomes.

Who do you choose to be in here?

It's just a forum right?
 

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Great thread idea! The comparison is simple yet true.

I choose to be the best version of myself that I can be.

I choose to raise the bar for myself, and be the person in real life that you believe I am from my "persona" in the forum.
That is a really interesting view - You are leading yourself by example!
 
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Don't play with the guy that flips the table in monopoly. :)
Yeah. Don't BE that guy either.

A litmus test for us all is whether we'd like and get on with ourselves if we met ourselves somehow.

Personally, I think I'd get on with myself like a house on fire. (You may beg to differ and wonder who'd get a look in if we're both talking. Haha.)
 
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You are leading yourself by example!
"Lead yourself by example."

Wow. Never thought of that.


Subject line for next thread sorted...
 

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I believe in the same principles. I believe when you lie, deceive, and hide things, and think your getting away with something behind the scenes, really we only lie to ourselves. One of the greatest things one of my mentors taught me, is if you're always honest with yourself when other people aren't looking, then you're also honest with others in their presence. I believe many people don't get the idea, human nature is predictable.

When you're in front of a self-actualized group who pretty much has been through the process, the ones following may be deceived, but the one's ahead of you, pretty much know you're still learning and growing.

It makes sense to say: even if we are life-long learners, most of us find out, we still don't know everything, and even if we've spent a lot of time from our experiences, besides gaining knowledge, there's so much yet to be learned and applied to life. The growth process is never ending.
 

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I'll share a story, a simple reframing:
8 years ago I got to know a guy on a social network, he's from a distant city and we just managed a public page together. No we're best friends and do majority of our businesses together. We talk on daily basis. We affected each other's lives tremendously.

Is this forum different from a social network?
Is social network different from a real life?
Or maybe everything is a real life and it's our attitude that matters?
 

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Remember when you were a kid playing games or sports with other kids?

Did you ever come across someone who cheated?

Did they ever say "It's just a game."

... meaning it's not "real"

... so cheating doesn't matter?


You know how I'd always respond?

"If it's only a game then why can't you play properly?"



How you do anything is how you do everything.



You're in a forum, possibly anonymously because you value your privacy.

You might not realise it yet, but you're here to build relationships with other real-life-people.

You might not realise it yet, but business is all about building relationships.



If you're anonymous in an online forum, then you have a choice to be better than you are normally.

You can choose to be the person you strive to be in your "real" life.

Or you can choose to be worse than you would be in real life, or at best, the same.

You could even choose to be an arse-hole if you want.

Don't be so naive to think everyone else isn't forming an opinion of you by the way you interact with others.

Don't be so naive to think you aren't building relationships with other forum members from every single interaction (or lack of) on the forum.



I choose to be the best version of myself that I can be.

I choose to raise the bar for myself, and be the person in real life that you believe I am from my "persona" in the forum.

Gosh, I even swear in real life. Bet you didn't think that eh?

I choose to be the man I want my sons to grow up to be.



As always, the same choices and actions result in the same outcomes.

It's just a forum.

How do you choose to be?
I remember that post you posted that contained an anecdote of a guy giving money to a homeless person and not being noticed for it.

That's the person I want to be.
 
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You're great Andy. Wise words.

"How you do anything is how you do everything."

I'd send you 10k rep if I had.
Whoa. Thanks for all the rep @devine
 

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One of the best things about this forum is you don't really need to hide behind an anonymous front. My username is my last name. If you really wanted to you could find me, and I try to be the same as I am online as I am offline.

I talk some shit from time to time, but I also know a thing or two about a thing or two.
 
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If you get pointed to this thread then it's a last gasp attempt to stop you being an a$$-hat (unless you're new here).

At a guess, you'll ignore the hint and continue on your self-destructive exit out of the forum.

I realise now that some people want to get ejected, but I'm pleased the effort inspired this thread.
 

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This isn't just a forum. It's my stronghold, my base and my quarters.
It gives me knowledge and strength that I would never get anywhere else. All my life I have been listening to liars, gamblers, thieves, losers and defeated souls. People who don't believe you can get rich quick (possible but not easy) or say that being rich is bad, or that you need college to be successful.

This is my fresh start. This forum has given me a freedom I never know existed. An education that far supersedes my college shit.

I doubt I can even apply Fastlane principles to my college garbage-unless I sold past year papers to the kids. But there are already existing systems for that, and I doubt I could make it a long-term Fastlane gig :) But that's a free idea.

My brother who is in a slowlane college a-levels is so burdened by his studies, so demoralised that at times he can't get out of bed. I told him about the Forum and he refused it. This forum has given me purpose and focus that no one else can give. It's the only place I can look up to for guidance.
 

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People who don't believe you can get rich quick.
Looks like people don't believe that it's possible to get rich at all. No matter if quick or not.

What are you interested in? What do you do?
 

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Looks like people don't believe that it's possible to get rich at all. No matter if quick or not.

What are you interested in? What do you do?
With hordes of people rushing out from corporate slavery to do their own thing, I might as well sit in the sidelines selling shovels. Hopefully the entry barrier of the shovel gig doesn't get screwed. Damn, the economy is just like Left 4 dead-hordes banging down the door. That's why we have economic crashes...to clear out the crowd! :)

Yeah, I'm selling shovels.
 
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Sometimes I just can't fathom people...
 

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If you're anonymous in an online forum, then you have a choice to be better than you are normally.

You can choose to be the person you strive to be in your "real" life.

Or you can choose to be worse than you would be in real life or, at best, the same.

You could even choose to be an arse-hole if you want.

Don't be so naive to think everyone else isn't forming an opinion of you by the way you interact with others.

Don't be so naive to think you aren't building relationships with other forum members with every single interaction (or lack of) on the forum.
I may be biased, but with anonymity you can get to the core of a person much quicker.

What they do online - when no one is looking - is the same thing they do offline.
 
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yes business is building relationships as you said Andy



and i go further :


business is mastering people's lazyness

because people are human and as human we are often lazy and we don't want to do things now :

for example : we say we want to lose weight and we don't go to the gym ; we continue to eat cakes

customers are human and they procrastinate to do things , even in their own best interests


by the way, Brian Tracy says that only 2 % of people can force themselves to do things all day long without supervision

we call them " leaders ".


so my point is that , we have to trick people like dogs or kids for their best interest


for example : Jeff Walker's product launch formula is based on sequences and mental triggers to force people to do things and to buy

because we humans are lazy.


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by the way, i am very lazy

since nobody is behind me to kick my a$$, i have to put things in place to push me

this is eben Pagan's discovery : putting conditions in place so action and results are inevitable


look here : http://www.mynotetakingnerd.com/blog/mynotetakingnerdtop-lessons-from-the-eben-pagan-management-summit/


quote :

" There is a clear distinction between “doing something” and putting a “condition” in place … it’s not about doing something. It’s about what’s the structure, what’s the condition, what’s the context that I put in place that makes the outcome I want to have happen, happen automatically? "


i can't rely on thinking alone . i rely on thinking to put conditions in place that will force me to do things







 

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