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Is there special kinda genes ?!

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gender always plays a big part of ones interests which will also explains why most of this forum members are males , because who would grab MJ books needs to be interested and okay females are not in all cases interested in such a content ,

Confirmation bias.

A woman is not interested in the fastlane, so ALL women are not interested in the fastlane?

I've known plenty of great female business minds IRL. (I also think it's funny that this thread shows up at the same time one of the gold threads from a great female entrepreneur gets bumped: GOLD - [PROGRESS THREAD] ChickenHawk's Self-Published Fiction EBooks)

Are men more likely to be entrepreneurs? I have no idea. I'm sure there is a study somewhere that answers that question, but does it matter?

I have NEVER cared about the gender, race, religion, weight, looks, height, personality traits, or age (or anything else) of someone who's business provided me with VALUE.

VALUE supersedes all that BS.

You can't understand why your friend is NOT interested in the fastlane, and I would guess your friend can't understand why you ARE.

The vast majority of people will never be fastlane, because the fastlane is uncomfortable. And that's OK!!

That's why I think Unscripted is such an important book, because at the very least a slowlaner can tailor the message to fit their comfort level and have more autonomy, more control, and therefore more happiness by making Unscripted decisions.

(this post probably sounds harsher than I meant it to sound, my bad)
 

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I think the male/female aspect of all this is really silly to even be discussing.

It's nonsense.
Poppycock.
Bullshit.

The reason is simple - because this is a business forum about entrepreneurship.

We're all here BECAUSE we don't want to fit into the normal models of behavior.

Entrepreneurship is about individualism.
About breaking free of societal norms.
About saying "to hell with statistics".

Statistics and norms and all that are fascinating things but they only matter in the macro sense when talking about tendencies of large groups of people. They fall apart when discussing individuals.

If anyone on this forum cared about the macro, none of us would have started businesses. The statistics around starting a business is really, really clear - you'd be a damn fool to play those odds.

But at some point we DID start a business.
Or will be shortly.
Because we decided NOT to be normal.

So yeah - who cares what women normally do? Or men.
Or Indians. Or blacks.
Or the poor. Or the middle class
Or the physically disabled? Or those with mental illness?

Starting a business is the least likely behavior of almost every statistical grouping on this planet.
Let's not go blaming race/sex/religion/situation for anything here.
If it's not "this", then it would be "that" because what we do isn't normal and not for most people regardless of the profile you filter them through.

This isn't an issue with someone being female.
It's an issue of someone acting entirely normal about something that only us abnormal minority engage in.
 

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I don't know how feminist this board is so I will disclaim the following with "no offense intended" but from an evolutionary point of view, males are bred to hunt, to gather, to provide. Females are bred to give birth to new generations of the family. That is evolutionary psychology at its barest.

I just sent you rep loot for having the guts to say it. Hah!

There are always exceptions to the norms, but I see nothing wrong with noticing patterns-of-behavior and interest. As a woman, I never felt held back by my gender, but I'd have to be blind to not notice that more men are interested in entrepreneurial ventures than women. Every once in a while, someone will post here, "Hey, what can we do to attract more women, so we can be more diverse?" To that, I say hogwash. Why would we want people here who don't have a true, passionate interest?

Everyone is welcome here, as long as they have genuine interest. The guys on this forum are great. The gals on this forum are great. There are definitely more guys, and I do think biology has something to do with it. As I get older, one thing that saddens me is how many women feel the need to apologize for "just being a homemaker" or for "just wanting to be homemaker." It's the most important job in the world. As a society, IMO, we don't value it nearly enough. I'm not saying that all women should be homemakers or all men should be entrepreneurs, but somewhere along the line, we decided that only "male" qualities mattered. As a result, we have a lot of bitter, unhappy women and confused, frustrated men.

Gender-aside, I do think certain traits are hereditary, including entrepreneurial ability/interest. In a way, it's like height. Men tend to be taller, but not all men are tall. Some families tend to be taller, but not all siblings are tall. If physical traits are at least partially determined by biology, why not mental ones?
 

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I don't know how feminist this board is so I will disclaim the following with "no offense intended" but from an evolutionary point of view, males are bred to hunt, to gather, to provide. Females are bred to give birth to new generations of the family. That is evolutionary psychology at its barest.

So of course it is in our instinctual interest to learn how to hunt or gather or in this case make money, and it is not in females interest. Now society has changed and now they scream "women are better than men at everything" but that is against instinct and in my experience, instinct always wins.

TLDR she didn't read it because as a female she doesn't care.

note - there are many great female businesswomen and entreprenurs, and there are many not-great male ones. But on the flip side, 97% of alimony divorce cases (having to pay the partner a fixed sum for the rest of her life because she is "used to being rich" after you are divorced) are instigated by women.

Of the 400,000 people in the United States receiving post-divorce spousal maintenance, just 3 percent were men, according to Census figures. Yet 40 percent of households are headed by female breadwinners -- suggesting that hundreds of thousands of men are eligible for alimony, yet don't receive it.
Why Do So Few Men Get Alimony?
 

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As a female, I was obsessed with the book. My husband is also of the same mindset.

Anyway, I think it has less to do with male/female dynamics and more to do with personality type. I think certain MBTI types are more prone to entrepreneurship and questioning the status quo.
 

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Confirmation bias.

A woman is not interested in the fastlane, so ALL women are not interested in the fastlane?

I've known plenty of great female business minds IRL. (I also think it's funny that this thread shows up at the same time one of the gold threads from a great female entrepreneur gets bumped: GOLD - [PROGRESS THREAD] ChickenHawk's Self-Published Fiction EBooks)

Are men more likely to be entrepreneurs? I have no idea. I'm sure there is a study somewhere that answers that question, but does it matter?

I have NEVER cared about the gender, race, religion, weight, looks, height, personality traits, or age (or anything else) of someone who's business provided me with VALUE.

VALUE supersedes all that BS.

You can't understand why your friend is NOT interested in the fastlane, and I would guess your friend can't understand why you ARE.

The vast majority of people will never be fastlane, because the fastlane is uncomfortable. And that's OK!!

That's why I think Unscripted is such an important book, because at the very least a slowlaner can tailor the message to fit their comfort level and have more autonomy, more control, and therefore more happiness by making Unscripted decisions.

(this post probably sounds harsher than I meant it to sound, my bad)

Don't apologize for "sounding harsh" to that bullsh*t.
You hit it right on the head!

A lot of people think that entrepreneurs who listen to people like Gary Vaynerchuk, or MJ, or Ramit Sethi have "drank the Kool-Aid".
Who. Fuqin'. Cares.
Like you said, not everyone is going to get it. And that's okay.
They don't have to.

You don't HAVE to tell the world what you're doing. Nor your friends. Or family. Or your dog and goldfish.
Show them.
And then guess what?...they STILL might not want to do what you do!!!
They STILL may talk about you behind your back or say "your crazy" to your face!

Or they'll talk out of their neck on how they want to do what you do, and show no ACTION!
And that goes for XX and XY chromosome.

That's cool. It's their life. You do you - and let them, do them.
Not everyone is meant to be on this bandwagon. And if they are, THEY will choose the time to jump on, not you.

And as far as that bullsh*t comment about the man being the "provider", said in the earlier comments.
From what I've seen in the world, and throughout history - there are more single mothers out there in the world holding down 2 jobs, to the single man who can't even find 1.

I meant for that to sound harsh. I'm not sorry.
 
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As a woman, I am 100% driven to O.W.N my destiny.

I come from a family of Zero business-owners, Zero business-INSIDERS and 100% regular lifestyles, as this is what they know and understand so I don't knock them for it, because, honestly, they did a great job as parents and I am a free-thinker.

I have one sibling, a brother - YUP - i.e. a man, who is older by 3 years, he is married and has 3 beautiful children - I have begged him beyond necessity to read TMF when I read it, I even bought him a hard copy which became a dust collector, I finished reading Unscripted a long while ago, I didn't even bother mentioning anything to him; simply, I no longer speak business with him because I have come to the overstanding that he is quite comfortable. When he complains about the rat race, I have Zero responses to it because I have recognised that this journey which I am Deeply DRIVEN by - as a woman - is a one-person journey. From my personal experience, entrepreneurship is:

1. A genuine yearning people have for obtaining more than society tells them they should have/do.

2. The opportunity to create life how one sees fit.

3. Well, after reading and enjoying TMF and Unscripted - it teaches that as a major contribution in life, one is equipped with the opportunity to add value to this big world we live in and this can be done in multiple ways.

4. The opportunity to solve problems and bring astronomical life-altering experiences to other people's lives.

Success has nothing to do with genes. Neither does the scripted option of gender-roles. Hunting/Hunter-Gathering, Providing etc. is NOT, I repeat NOT gender-specific, do not allow society to feed you that baloney, because history, that is NOT taught in schools, proves that either roles can be fulfilled either way wherever necessary.

Every individual has their own journey in life, and with each journey, we each have our own unique challenges and experiences which may result in different outcomes.

The forum is neither feminist nor masculinist, we are simply a group of people from ALL different walks of life, different ages, ethnicities, countries who believe there is a whole lot more to life than what we have been fed and believe that we have a lot to offer the world.

Your friend did not read the book because she is possibly at a comfortable point in her life where she sees no need to yearn for more than she has. Is there anything wrong with that? No; because you have come to the light, it doesn't mean you'll have a following with you. I have been there, done that and I am happily minding my business, grinding quietly on my own pursuit of greatness.
 
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the first time I laid my eyes on Fastlane book I couldn't blink until I finished the first three chapters and within less than ten days I was finished with the whole book and started rereading it Until I got Unscripted , I started thinking and dreaming of my future business and my retirement plan at age 30 and everything is so cool and things are going great am about to launch my first MVP in the next week and we will see how things will go from then .

I see people here in this forum with a highly fired up souls and I can understand and relate but what I do not understand Is how can someone Not be !

I gave my friend Fastlane book a month ago and she didn't even finished the introduction part !
I keep nagging on her but she seems just not interested -no offence MJ -

So what's the issue ?! Is there really special genes within people to seek more in life reach autonomy and release their scripted mind or maybe some life events is responsible for making us so !?
 
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Confirmation bias.

A woman is not interested in the fastlane, so ALL women are not interested in the fastlane?

I've known plenty of great female business minds IRL. (I also think it's funny that this thread shows up at the same time one of the gold threads from a great female entrepreneur gets bumped: GOLD - [PROGRESS THREAD] ChickenHawk's Self-Published Fiction EBooks)

Are men more likely to be entrepreneurs? I have no idea. I'm sure there is a study somewhere that answers that question, but does it matter?

I have NEVER cared about the gender, race, religion, weight, looks, height, personality traits, or age (or anything else) of someone who's business provided me with VALUE.

VALUE supersedes all that BS.

You can't understand why your friend is NOT interested in the fastlane, and I would guess your friend can't understand why you ARE.

The vast majority of people will never be fastlane, because the fastlane is uncomfortable. And that's OK!!

That's why I think Unscripted is such an important book, because at the very least a slowlaner can tailor the message to fit their comfort level and have more autonomy, more control, and therefore more happiness by making Unscripted decisions.

(this post probably sounds harsher than I meant it to sound, my bad)
I rather have it harsh and true, than nice but fake.
So what's the issue ?! Is there really special genes within people to seek more in life reach autonomy and release their scripted mind or maybe some life events is responsible for making us so !?
While genes might play a part in physical talent and some high-level mental pursuits, I would consider them an 'investment'.

We all have that little 'investment' in us...some of us can learn public speaking, playing piano, maths, art quickly...You will know what kind of investment you have in your genes until you act and execute lol.

For example, I found I had an innate chops in writing. Some people just throw the paper and pen out of the window when they have writer's block...it's not for everyone. I had to discover my 'investment' by executing...I wrote Fanfiction (lol), articles for schools magazines, Quora posts, TFLF (lol!).

It is up to us to develop that 'investment' into something bigger and valuable, let alone Fastlane. And that involves choice. And of course execution and doing the stuff.
And we develop that investment by doing stuff, having mistakes, getting feedback and criticism, experiences, modelling after others....until we look down and realised, 'Wow...how far have we climbed up!'

Your friend not being that interested has nothing to do with genes though. It's her choice. It will do well to respect her choice. She might not need it now as she might not have an FTE.

Notable! - Manufacturing a FTE (F*ck This Event!)

I would argue that choices can be made regardless of environment or situation. A pure choice must be your own doing regardless of the influx of information around you. If it isn't, then the SCRIPT or any other influence is in control, not you.
 
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I don't think her unwillingness to read the book is related to her gender.

Until a person finds themselves in a place of great discomfort, they will resist change.
Pain is what makes us move, her pain threshold, priorities and goals are different then yours, mine or anyone elses.

It is true that genes can effect our hormones, which in turn, can effect our moods, but the true shaper of personality is the environment we live in and the people who we share it with.

The circumstances you are in made you seek the book not your genes. If life will take your friend to a place dark enough for her to want to act and fight to improve her life, then she will start searching, just like you did.
 

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Oh hey, a funny side note about IQ distribution: Men dominate the higher ends of the scale. But they also dominate the lower ends. Women, in general (with exceptions of course) cluster more in the middle.

In summary...
If you're a man, you're statistically more likely than a woman to be a genius. But alas, you're also more likely to be a dullard.
 
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I think most people are scared of taking risks and of failing. The first reaction I have when I tell people about my plans to start a business is "But what if it doesn't work and you lose what you invested ?" Same thing at the bar when guys would rather sit in the corner drinking than risking being rejected by attractive women.

I haven't started anything yet, but I see the time and money I will spend as an investment. Worst case scenario, I lose time and money but I bet I'll learn a lot in the process. Some of my friends have a different mindset, their ultimate goal in life is to own their house because it is "a safe investment". I respect that choice but I'd rather try doing something big and take some calculated risks.
 
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People often talk about genes as if they're written in stone and unchangeable from birth, but the truth is your genes are more dynamic than static. The food you eat, your mindset, the amount of physical activity you get all contribute to your genetic makeup which is constantly subject to change.

This is why our early years are so crucial in our development. Children who's parents read to them and surround them with things that facilitate learning, as opposed to parents who give them attention and just let them watch TV, develop more neuron connections in their brains, and thus grow up to be more intelligent, have more successful careers, make more money, and overall have higher satisfaction in life.

But to answer your question, I can't really tell you why your friend is the way she is. I can't tell you why I come from a family of people who love sports and being outside, my parents and sister are all extroverted and very social, yet I grew up being shy and introverted, and loving video games, computers and science.

Don't worry about your's or your friend's genes to much. The most fundamental concept I've learned from the Fastlane is that we have the ability to change ourselves and better our lives quickly if we desire.

I don't know how feminist this board is so I will disclaim the following with "no offense intended" but from an evolutionary point of view, males are bred to hunt, to gather, to provide. Females are bred to give birth to new generations of the family. That is evolutionary psychology at its barest.

That's actually wrong because in hunter-gather societies the roles of men and women were a lot more equal and fluid. There are many theories that men were predominately hunters and women were predominately gatherers, which would make women equally if not more valuable in providing food. But this isn't relevant in today's industrialized society, where men and women are capable of the same kinds of work.
 
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If anyone on this forum cared about the macro, none of us would have started businesses. The statistics around starting a business is really, really clear - you'd be a damn fool to play those odds.

Pick the gumball machine with the most golden gumballs, and play that SOB until it gives you one!

Man @JAJT , you're on a roll lately with your comments!
 
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I'm loving the debate that's going on in this post.

As a woman who comes from a non-entrepreneurial family from as far back as I can get, I would be inclined to say that the drive to succeed as an entrepreneur is neither down to genetics or gender. However, this thread has made me think about it at a much deeper level. The truth is when I think about my family, they're all very subdued and will tend to run and hide if it looks like there's half the chance they're going to be asked to stand on their own two feet and lead something (I don't mean that as harshly as it sounds!). For a long time I felt that made me a black sheep, however observing their behaviour lately I've come to realise that it's not necessarily they don't want more for themselves, it's just it's too painful for them to do it. They like their comfortable and predictable lives.

In contrast, I'm quite the opposite. I want more for myself and it is too painful for me to not take action and try things. The difference is less to do with genetics and more to do with who I've been around. From a young age I was involved in competitive track and field and that allowed me to be around people who pushed themselves beyond our normal limits. I saw there was more to life than just making do and it lit a fire in me that I've carried through other things I've done. In contrast, the majority of my family have quite solitary hobbies which means they've never really had someone to switch that on for them... hence how we're grown in very different ways.
 

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Is there really special genes within people to seek more in life

The "gene" in question is drive. Drive can come from lots of places, usually pain.
 

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the first time I laid my eyes on Fastlane book I couldn't blink until I finished the first three chapters and within less than ten days I was finished with the whole book and started rereading it Until I got Unscripted , I started thinking and dreaming of my future business and my retirement plan at age 30 and everything is so cool and things are going great am about to launch my first MVP in the next week and we will see how things will go from then .

I see people here in this forum with a highly fired up souls and I can understand and relate but what I do not understand Is how can someone Not be !

I gave my friend Fastlane book a month ago and she didn't even finished the introduction part !
I keep nagging on her but she seems just not interested -no offence MJ -

So what's the issue ?! Is there really special genes within people to seek more in life reach autonomy and release their scripted mind or maybe some life events is responsible for making us so !?

Yes, this is not for everyone, it's the 1 percent for a reason and I'll be the first to admit I'm gifted in ways most people are not and could probably never become. That's life. I suck at a lot of other stuff too.
 

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Confirmation bias.

A woman is not interested in the fastlane, so ALL women are not interested in the fastlane?
"Not in all cases" does not mean "ALL women" instead it means "Not every women" so choose your words precisely please , of course there are great female business minds I can never argue with that , and I also 'have NEVER cared about the gender, race, ... blah blah blah ' , but you can yourself notice the gender of the majority audience of this forum, gender interpretation of the issue is as true as any other logical interpretation of someones interest level in the Fastlane

(you don't need to be sorry)
 

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Oh hey, a funny side note about IQ distribution: Men dominate the higher ends of the scale. But they also dominate the lower ends. Women, in general (with exceptions of course) cluster more in the middle.

In summary...
If you're a man, you're statistically more likely than a woman to be a genius. But alas, you're also more likely to be a dullard.
Which means basically it goes either way :)

Therefore, society loves doing this thing where it enjoys pitting men against women when actually, we are meant to co-exist peacefully - yes, of course, due to individual experiences, we may have different behavioural patterns, but, it can boil down to not specifically being gender-oriented :)
 

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Really interesting weigh in's from the actual female entrepreneurs on the boards. I must say the female members on here have a far above average healthy perspective on the gender issue without going into the instant knee jerk mainstream feminist PC shaming programming the media tries to instill (the recent Google Memo incident comes to mind as an example). Though being that most entrepreneurs going their own way are also free thinkers this doesn't surprise me. Anyway kudo's to healthy perspectives and non PC attitude on here, I just keep liking this forum more and more. You gal's are badasses.

With regards to why isn't everyone interested in forging their way on the fastlane,

Just statistically speaking most people don't have ambitions to be anything more than average. It's just not something they really consider as they go about thinking predominantly about how they will get through the day and all the petty decisions that go with it.

It is much easier from a mental point to have 9-5 security (albeit illusory security), not have to think critically for themselves (because thinking is a LOT of hard work), and lastly its just plain scary to challenge all your pre-held beliefs and rewire everything you've considered to be the "best way of doing things" (since that'd mean you'd done it wrong all along).

-Rob
 
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There are many reasons. Some people really love their 9 to 5 jobs. Some can't delay gratification. Some may never be aware that there is another way, because the script is very strong. As you mentionned, sometimes all it takes is a FTE (defined in UNSCRIPTED ) to make people look for alternative ways.

I don't think there is a special gene - that sounds like a fixed mindset which is making excuses for why someone can't do something because they weren't born smart. (applies to many other different aspects...)
 

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As a female, I was obsessed with the book. My husband is also of the same mindset.

Anyway, I think it has less to do with male/female dynamics and more to do with personality type. I think certain MBTI types are more prone to entrepreneurship and questioning the status quo.

and your personality is defined .......... by your genes ?!
 
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your experience with your brother I can admit its nearly the same as mine , the thing is you do want the best for them but they still don't listen and at the end of the day it's their choice and life , maybe mediocrity ,slowlane and sidewalk is what they see as their best life style and they would be content with it,we have done what we've should've done for them and now it's all their decision.
Absolutely, I've learnt in my pursuit, as @Gigi Rodgers stated, the best way to inspire change is to become the example. I no longer talk business with my brother, simply because I don't want him feel as if I am pressuring him to do something he is not mentally prepared for, yes I want the best for him too and I do everything in my power, whenever I have the chance to teach my nephew and two nieces to think beyond what society teaches them. One of my nieces question every-living-thing, and that is pretty cool, I encourage them to keep doing so; whatever I know off the bat I tell them when they ask and what I don't know serves as an opportunity for us to learn together, I make it clear to them that even as adults, we wouldn't know everything and that it's okay for us to learn it together.

That's not to say that your friend may not specifically come to the light; there may be a time later down when she sees that light and then she may be ready to pursue the Fastlane, don't knock her for it now, accept her as she is, now is an opportunity for you to grind and become the example for her to have the yearning to level up. You are pursuing your journey and so is your friend, we certainly want strictly the best for all our loved ones, but, in wanting the best, we simply have to come to terms with the fact that not everyone will pull through similar pathways to what we choose. :)
 

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I would say an entrepreneurial mindset is nurture (your surroundings) rather than nature (your genes).
 
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Absolutely, I've learnt in my pursuit, as @Gigi Rodgers stated, the best way to inspire change is to become the example. I no longer talk business with my brother, simply because I don't want him feel as if I am pressuring him to do something he is not mentally prepared for, yes I want the best for him too and I do everything in my power, whenever I have the chance to teach my nephew and two nieces to think beyond what society teaches them. One of my nieces question every-living-thing, and that is pretty cool, I encourage them to keep doing so; whatever I know off the bat I tell them when they ask and what I don't know serves as an opportunity for us to learn together, I make it clear to them that even as adults, we wouldn't know everything and that it's okay for us to learn it together.

That's not to say that your friend may not specifically come to the light; there may be a time later down when she sees that light and then she may be ready to pursue the Fastlane, don't knock her for it now, accept her as she is, now is an opportunity for you to grind and become the example for her to have the yearning to level up. You are pursuing your journey and so is your friend, we certainly want strictly the best for all our loved ones, but, in wanting the best, we simply have to come to terms with the fact that not everyone will pull through similar pathways to what we choose. :)
What a cute and inspiring thing you are doing with your nephew and nieces ,btw my first niece will arrive to this world this month ^^ , Lead by example is the best lesson am carrying out from this thread
 

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Oh hey, a funny side note about IQ distribution: Men dominate the higher ends of the scale. But they also dominate the lower ends. Women, in general (with exceptions of course) cluster more in the middle.

In summary...
If you're a man, you're statistically more likely than a woman to be a genius. But alas, you're also more likely to be a dullard.
haha you are not taking sides are you ? XP
 

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As for gender, in some fastlanes you CANNOT succeed as a man. If you disgree I challenge you to write paranormal romance and release it as a male pen name
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There are already men doing this. They use pen names.
 
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I don't know how feminist this board is so I will disclaim the following with "no offense intended" but from an evolutionary point of view...
I think that would fall under "politics", as evidenced by the complete derail to the discussion that followed.

Personally I think it's a combination of genes and upbringing that make you more likely to question and be dissatisfied with the system and have a "F*ck This Event"(FTE). If you've never had an FTE, you just won't be able to see the point.
 
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and your personality is defined .......... by your genes ?!

Hmmm... I never thought about that, but I guess it definitely could be. That is something to look into further, for sure. I am interested in seeing if there is a correlation there.
 

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