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Great post @Fox but i was wondering. You said we should look for bad looking website to redesign but companies want to improve their business and won't have time to think about redesigning their website.
So how would i cold email a company to redesign their website and solve their problems.

Here you go...

Any questions just let me know here



 
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Hello Fox. What is your preferred or most effective way to get customers on the phone? I don't mean selling on the phone, but getting into a conversation with the customer first? SEO, cold email, LinkedIn networking?
 

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Here you go...

Any questions just let me know here



Hey @Fox, how do I get the business owner's name online and also their email address. I have been us in their website email address but have gotten no results.
 
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@Fox I just finished your 1,000,000 book and it is totally legit. It's confirmed in my everyday life each time I'm going to talk to a client for my former business. I've learned to be focused only on the client's problems, because they have no time to discuss anything else. They just want results and guarantees.

Definitely a good starting point for the mindset in every business ! I'll let you a 5 stars review when I'll match the requirements for amazon.

I plan to read this thread soon, I'm sure I'll learn a lot of valuables things.

Thank you ;)
 
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@Fox I just finished your 1,000,000 book and it is totally legit. It's confirmed in my everyday life each time I'm going to talk to a client for my former business. I've learned to be focused only on the client's problems, because they have no time to discuss anything else. They just want results and guarantees.

Definitely a good starting point for the mindset in every business ! I'll let you a 5 stars review when I'll match the requirements for amazon.

I plan to read this thread soon, I'm sure I'll learn a lot of valuables things.

Thank you ;)

Thanks! Glad you liked it and tag me again if you need help with anything.
 

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Hey gusy, i have one question:
How much i should charge for a Business website that will be maid in wordpress, he said that he needs a simple website, that he will provide me a pictures and i don't have to edit them, he has a text and he will need probably 4 pages. He tried to negotiate with me, he asked me, how much for website and i said $1000, he made a long pause, that was a tactic to put me down, and he said that that is to much for him, and he said that he know how to do it in wordpress but he don't have a time for it and he has a domain and hosting, and then i sad what is a good price for you, then he said, if you asking me $0 because he knows how to do it and some of indian guys can do it cheap, for something like $200, $300, and that was also a tactic that i don't know how much he is willing to offer, and on the end i sad my last price is $400, and then he said that that's acceptable price, and that we will talk later.
So, if he providing me text for website, pictures, is that ok price that i'm asking?
 

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Hey @Fox, I want to target interior designers in Canada. Do you think it will be profitable?
Also I have been trying your cold email advice but I haven't gotten response. What can I do to change that?
 
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So I'm following the advice of @Andy Black in his thread about not lurking. No overthinking,I will simply post what I feel after working on my business all day

@Fox I must thank you greatly for this thread

I'm only on page 17 and I'm already about to deliver my second paid website

After 1 year of an obscure project in digital signage (in wich I learned a lot about networks and linux cysadmin) I decided to move on on another project, this time one with a lot of advices availables.

Your thread just fell perfect, it launch me on new directions in a field that I found interesting principaly for its interdisciplinality

Interdisciplinarity who is - by the way - on a logical continuum with my previous project (programming, graphic design, copywritting, advertising, ...) and I feel like a victory over time itself (because my precedent project taught me a lot, even if it didn't work)

Well I started in september so I'm not very fast yet, and the project are for 300€ (=$338) but I got greats results in terms of websites speed (2.4s on mobile and with a CMS), frontend and security and this is really good for my portfolio and selling arguments.

I don't have time fore boredom, webdesign can but such a headhache but it is so interesting, challenging and gratifying.

For now clients are just friends but they start to speak about me and the feeling is really great, I feel like I have at last discovered a thing that I can make money on and grow in.

I will share my websites here for you @Fox and the others to rate them :p
 
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hey @Fox sorry to necropost here, but the quiz page on your school site seem broken, IE Quiz Page

Read your book and this thread, I think I've found some direction finally.

**edit - oops nevermind - it was a network pi-hole eating the page
 
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hey @Fox sorry to necropost here, but the quiz page on your school site seem broken, IE Quiz Page

Read your book and this thread, I think I've found some direction finally.

**edit - oops nevermind - it was a network pi-hole eating the page

Thanks - I just checked there also and seems to be working fine.

If you want you can also send me a private message here on the forums (with your email and details) and I can double-check.
 
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Great thread. I’m trying to make a social networking site with Wordpress, but before that I was using html and css, and I might need to get better at those.
 

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Hello!

Wanted to give a huge thanks and shout out to you. I'm currently in the process of becoming a full-stack (MERN) developer (I'm in a bootcamp), and was looking for a way to make enough money to leave my full-time job (60 hours of work + 40 hours of school = I'm exhausted by Wednesday).

So, once again, thanks a ton. Since your content has added an obscene amount of value to/for me, I'd like the opportunity to repay the favor, if possible. That said, if you'd ever like some help learning anything about JavaScript, back-end, jQuery, PHP, MYSQL, etc. I'd be happy to help. Keep up your amazing work!
 

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Hey Fox, I have a question for you if you don't mind.

When you sell a website to a society, are you also giving the copyright away or just use rights ?

I mean by that: are your clients authorized to exploit, copy, modify and resell the website ?

I'm actually making my contracts and I'm using Wordpress, plugins and themes so the scope of use rights can be tricky... What about your templates ?

Thank you
 
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Hello everyone, this is quite eye opening for me cuz I only target E-commerce industry with Shopify.

Has anyone here successfully copied Fox's success?
 

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Hey Fox, I have a question for you if you don't mind.

When you sell a website to a society, are you also giving the copyright away or just use rights ?

I mean by that: are your clients authorized to exploit, copy, modify and resell the website ?

I'm actually making my contracts and I'm using Wordpress, plugins and themes so the scope of use rights can be tricky... What about your templates ?

Thank you

Hey man,

99.9% of the time you just build a website and then hand it over to the client.

You are hired to make it - but you don't have any ownership over their actual site (even if you 100% built it).

So can they copy it 1000 times? Ya sure.

But the value of the website should be based on what it solved - not how it looked, so that doesn't matter too much.

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The other part of that question is when you build it using X technology then it just comes down to that tech.

Like if I build a website on Webflow, and then give it to a client - then that set up is now between them and Webflow.

Does that help?
 

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Hello everyone, this is quite eye opening for me cuz I only target E-commerce industry with Shopify.

Has anyone here successfully copied Fox's success?

Yes.

The business model is really simple so its just putting the work...
- Find businesses with problems
- Look for problems a website can solve
- Sell them that
 
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Hey man,

99.9% of the time you just build a website and then hand it over to the client.

You are hired to make it - but you don't have any ownership over their actual site (even if you 100% built it).

So can they copy it 1000 times? Ya sure.

But the value of the website should be based on what it solved - not how it looked, so that doesn't matter too much.

---

The other part of that question is when you build it using X technology then it just comes down to that tech.

Like if I build a website on Webflow, and then give it to a client - then that set up is now between them and Webflow.

Does that help?

Yes it helps a lot

Intially I had the reflex to want to keep a maximum of rights on my work, moreover it is the default policy here in Europe.

But then I wondered if it was an actual profitability optimum with regard to several factors such as long-terms responsabilities and sales pitches.

Thank you for responding so quickly !
 

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Yes.

The business model is really simple so its just putting the work...
- Find businesses with problems
- Look for problems a website can solve
- Sell them that
Yeah I get you. I shared your thread to my coding friends to invite them to try doing this.

However, some of them are against it, they said "If it's so easy to make money like that, then why isn't everybody doing it?"
 

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Yeah I get you. I shared your thread to my coding friends to invite them to try doing this.

However, some of them are against it, they said "If it's so easy to make money like that, then why isn't everybody doing it?"

Nobody said it was easy, it require work to learn the basics, more work to actually do the website and perhaps even more work to get the clients + all the business management concerns.

Fox said he coded 10h00 a day initialy and I begin to understand why. Webdesign can be a headache, so are clients and paperworks.

Go see his youtube channel, he have a very strict schedule and time management.
 
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So how can you make decent money with limited web skills, only a few weeks/months experience, and just a simple laptop?

The types of clients you help.

Imagine for a second the website you build will only ever generate one sale per year. Maybe only one sale ever.


Now lets over some businesses you could have built that website for...

Client one: Jimmy & Friends Coffee Shop.
One sale is a cup of coffee or maybe if they are lucky a lunch special. One sale profit: $3-10 profit maybe.


Client Two: Jimmy & Co Travel Agency.
Maybe that one sale is a trip to Paris, or maybe even a round the world one year break. Profits on travel are slim though and the internet is really driving down those juice margins. One sale profit: $150- $1,000 profit maybe.


Client Three: Jimmy Inc. Industrial Clean Up Services.

Now this website is on the sexy side of things. It won't exact be winning website of the year award or going viral on FB but...
One sale of a large scale clean up at that oil refinery this winter... Maybe $500,000 to $4 million. Maybe more.

Now when it comes time to sell websites you always say you aim to get your clients ten times the results that they invest in you.

So lets do the maths...

Client One: You can justify 30c - $1
Client Two: You can justify $15 - $100
Client Three: You can justify $50k to $400,000.


Same amount of time dealing with the client, same amount of time coding, same amount fo time hiring a pro photographer. Very different result.

Now what you charge is your own choice. But the above example should clearly show who to build for:

- Construction
- Industrial Services
- Engineering
- Oil

- Legal
- Medical

The first four are my favorite. Unsexy, boring, aggressive clients, large contracts.


"Hey Mr. Fox but what about tech start ups and that new app, they are making a zillion dollars. Lets go build for them!!!"

No way and here is why...

- They are in the design and internet business, they know guys already or have minimum wage slaves to work round the clock on design and websites
- There is no shortage of guys trying to approach the "cool" companies for web design
- You will always be replaceable
- They won't see your value


Your aim is to become a problem solver for large, boring, industrial companies that know nothing about the internet and want to deal with a "regular guy" to fix that website.

Thats it for today.

Soon I will go over how to get your first few jobs and also how to find these clients (super easy).

Sneak peak... I don't use upwork or any other slave labor website. I go direct or hire sales guys who go direct.
Hey Buddy,

great thread. I was wondering how you learned your actual skill you are selling here. Making CONVERTING websites for these traditional businesses. What went into that ?

Best
Tobias
 

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My client is likely to object "you're just a Web Designer. No way I'm paying you that high".

How did you over come that price objection?

I just got my 1st interested lead for this kind of project. I've been told by someone from reddit who does the same to charge it in this formula [(12month of profit) (x% chance of success)].

My brother is my 1st interested lead. He profits around 5000usd per rich client he has. Let say the Website I made for him gives him 10 clients in 12 months and the chances of that is 50%. So I'll be charging him 25,000usd. Where I'm from I'd be a Millionare with that amount of money.
 

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It has taken me a long time to have time to create this thread and for that I apologize. I have been getting PMs for months and while I helped a lot of you out with detailed responses I wanted to start a thread so everyone would have access to the same information.

*** This isn't exact Fastlane, at least not in the beginning, but its a great way to earn 5 figures a month, learn the skills to create and run your own FL business while building a network of top business people***

Back at the beginning of the year I packed up everything I owned in Canada and moved to South America. I was keen to make enough income to stay down there while also building my own Fastlane business. Problem was I had no online skills, no idea what to do and have never ran a successful business before.

I just launched my business last week and I am still down here living happily so I guess I could say things have gone very well. Hopefully this information helps others achieve similar success and allows them to start pursuing their dreams.


So first things first:

- I started with zero coding knowledge in January of this year. I didn't know how to host a website, I didn't know what HTML or CSS was, I made a tonne of really basic mistakes and figured it all out by myself. I didn't take any expensive courses, had no mentors and probably only spent a few hundred dollars getting set up.

It took me a while to refine my niche but what I now focus on is building simple yet powerful websites that get huge results. No crazy interactive code, no fancy graphics, just simple, clean, professional websites that add huge value to the clients who hire me.

In the last few months I have
- built a website that landed a $1 million pus contract for the guys who hired me (they hadn't worked in over 8 months - oil company)
- built a website that helped get a pro athlete into a world tournament and increased pay from his sponsors (social media profile increase)
- Built a website that has a lawyer making over 1k a week on consultations

While I made good money on these websites its nice to know that the value I added is many times more and all my clients have been very satisfied.

I am still in the early stages of figuring this all out though so as this thread goes along I will still update with what I am learning and what has changed. Right now my problem is scaling, I need more top sales people on the ground selling websites for me. I will come back to this in another post maybe.


So how to begin:

So todays lesson is on how to get started at the very start. You know nothing and you want to get in on this action too. Some quick notes - I build "custom" HTML websites 99% of the time, I don't use wordpress except in some rare cases for add on blog/news sections to my sites. Why? Most of my clients are very busy, non tech people. They don't want or have time to update their websites. They want it built well and they want it to run itself. HTML is a lot better for this and when done right looks way more professional.

How to begin with HTML:

Take the HTML and CSS lessons on Learn to Code - for Free | Codecademy.

You can also do the JS section but I didn't and have been just fine.


Next take the following UDEMY course:

Build Responsive Websites with HTML5 and CSS3


After this you will now know how to edit and work with HTML themes. What does that mean?

Well there is no point creating a website from scratch. That takes years of coding experience and a lot of time for each new clients. Luckily enough people have gone and created HTML themes - its an already coded website where you just rearrange, switch out the pictures and text and add in a few extra bits (I will show how to do all of this at a later stage).

An example of a theme is here...

Foundry Multipurpose HTML + Variant Page Builder

It just a blank slate with a certain style that you work with. While this may seem like strange or cheating (I thought this was how to learn to build websites!??) its not. Anyone with an internet can create a website these days so that is not where we will be adding value. We add value by building a website with a purpose. We want to build websites that get results and make money, or whatever they are trying to achieve, for the owner.

So how do you build a website that gets great results?

Good question.

As @Andy Black would say you want sales not a website. I am going to meet him half way with you want to build a website that gets sales. Not a website that looks amazing, has cool videos and sections, talks about the companies recent gold tournament or how they really wanted to do X since they were 5. Now it might do one or all of these things but only IF it helps gets sales.

Every page, link, click and action on the website is to help facilitate the growth of the company and sales.


Lets take for example an immigration lawyer website...

Is the goal of the site to teach you about immigration law?
Is it to show you stats of work, trade and education within the country?
Is it to teach you about what to do when you first arrive, what to pack, what to expect?

No.

The whole purpose of that website is for the user to either book a consultation or contact them regarding their services. Which both lead to that person hiring them as their immigration lawyer.

Now it might use some of the above to help with that goal but it only has one main purpose. Everything we do for that client must help with that goal or if it doesn't help... be removed.


You are going to learn to take the value of threads of here regarding copywriting, sales and the Fastlane Mindset and apply it other peoples businesses to help them achieve massive results. This just happens to take the form of a website. You are really selling sales and results.

Once you sell results there is no limit to what you can charge and achieve.


If you have read all this and want to start follow the above links, compete them fully and then follow along with the next stages. There will be a lot to cover but I will outline everything you need to know to be making over $10,000 a month with 6 months*.

*Assumes actual work ethic, being able to do some learning by yourself and filling in the gaps. I will give advice but I won't be holding anyones hand step-by-step.

Next lesson... Client selection.
Hi @Fox that's a good thread , some weeks ago, I decide to run a freelancer website design, I bought a computer, I took a coding course on openclassrooms.com which I've finished, I learnt some html and css basics but still feel like it is not enough, I tried to find who can be interested with that but still no one was taking the decision to work with me , I don't know how I'm going to positionne my services, but maybe I don't know nothing about marketing, that confused me I don't know in which must I focus on ? Coding? or Marketing? Which time would I allocate to each? I'm not sure that I'm good enough to build persuasive websites for my future clients?

So, how must I manage all those parts of my website design freelance's project, while I run on limited ressources : 4 hours per day, I have a bullshit job that fill my day and money, I think I can't afford outsourcing while I have terrible issues to handle my basics needs !

I need some tips on how I can tackle that in order to make a real progress

Thank you !
 
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As @Andy Black would say you want sales not a website. I am going to meet him half way with you want to build a website that gets sales. Not a website that looks amazing, has cool videos and sections, talks about the companies recent gold tournament or how they really wanted to do X since they were 5. Now it might do one or all of these things but only IF it helps gets sales.

Every page, link, click and action on the website is to help facilitate the growth of the company and sales.

I'm curious to know how one can apply this to web development instead of web design? I've read your book by the way, and I agree that if you can sell results and design a website that increases the client's sales then you can charge a lot higher. However, it seems like this can only be applied to web DESIGN.

In web development, you don't design the website yourself, you get the designs from the client who sends you the PSD/Figma/XD/Sketch/etc files and your job is to go and build it. How then do we sell results?
 

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- I started with zero coding knowledge in January of this year. I didn't know how to host a website, I didn't know what HTML or CSS was, I made a tonne of really basic mistakes and figured it all out by myself. I didn't take any expensive courses, had no mentors and probably only spent a few hundred dollars getting set up.

It took me a while to refine my niche but what I now focus on is building simple yet powerful websites that get huge results. No crazy interactive code, no fancy graphics, just simple, clean, professional websites that add huge value to the clients who hire me.
I'm not sure I understand what exactly you do? Do you do web design or web development or both? Sounds like you're designing the websites then building them using basic HTML/CSS/JS? I take it that you're not building web apps or getting your hands dirty with anything back-end?
 

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I'm not sure I understand what exactly you do? Do you do web design or web development or both? Sounds like you're designing the websites then building them using basic HTML/CSS/JS? I take it that you're not building web apps or getting your hands dirty with anything back-end?

Nah very little backend stuff and no apps.

Just focusing high level on what a business needs that’s valuable but easy (technically) to provide.
 
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Nah very little backend stuff and no apps.

Just focusing high level on what a business needs that’s valuable but easy (technically) to provide.
Sounds good, I've also shifted my mindset on your philosophy, clients don't care if you're gonna do back-end stuffs, or HTML and CSS , maybe they don't even know what is, they only want on their pain headache (the problems they prioritize) to be healed,
 

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Nah very little backend stuff and no apps.

Just focusing high level on what a business needs that’s valuable but easy (technically) to provide.

Interesting approach, I must say this has made me consider learning some web design. I always thought the high-end money was in web apps.

So it's through web design that you're selling value (convincing them you'll increase their sales, leads, conversion, etc).
In my case, I only know web development at the moment, so it's pretty tricky to sell value in the same way you are. My job is to only build the design I'm given, not create the design myself. Do you have any advice on how I can create value for them (increase sales, leads, etc) through purely web development? Or is learning some web design the only way?

My HTML/CSS/JS is pretty proficient, I can create any design that I'm given, it just takes me some time as I haven't had tons of practice.
 

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