Hold or Sell?? 100k profit on Duplex

[Envision]

Whats up!

I've spoken at the summit on house hacking where I bought a duplex when I was 20 and created the opportunity to live for free. For context to this question, my goal is to build a holdings company that invest primarily in multi-family real estate and create my ideal life from that.

Now im kind of at a cross roads. I bought that duplex when I was 20 (2 years ago) for $157,000 (currently owe ~145k). As of today there are duplexes that are the same or worse than mine in my market being sold for $260-280k and they're going in less than a couple of days (absolute insanity). Prior to finding my newest property i never considered selling because I needed the place to live. But now after seeing these prices come up and I now have a new place the live the opportunity to sell the property has presented itself.

I've lived in the property for 2 years, I could sell the property for ~280k and walk away from the deal with $100-120k in my bank after everything and I wouldnt have to pay capital gains taxes because ive lived in it.

There are pros and cons and im coming to you guys to help me think this out.

Pros:
-walk away with 20 years worth of rent
-i wouldnt have to fix the roof, paint the house, and other large expenses that are coming up in the next 1-5 years.
-Have cash on hand for when the market turns

Cons:
-It's a great asset. It's being paid down, will make $500/mo net once I move out and I would lose that.
-If I sold it I wouldnt be able to leverage it in the future. (Keep in mind I could sell it for more than what a bank would loan against it)
-Im emotionally attached haha

My thought is I can do alot with 100k and Im not in a rush to buy more real estate so I could wait for the market to cool off and possibly invest in 2-3 duplexes or a couple of 4plexs or a larger deal... I could even do some private lending with those funds as well.

Side note: I dont need to live off the money, and my ecomm business does not need it either.

Would love to hear what your thoughts are!
Thanks,

 

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[NickC]

O xuamf qsucecmz timm og zua'si disveop zua dep qsugov vjev nadj. Ati qsugovt vu miwisehi up nusi qsuqisvoit. Og zuas huem ot vu uxp muvt ug siem itvevi vjev ot.

 

[jclean]

Op zuas qmedi O xuamf qeopv vji juati epf goy vji suug pux. Epf vjip timm ov gus e qsinoan qsodi.
Zua esi huoph vu neli nusi qsugov vjot xez epf ov ot tunivjoph vjev piif vu jeqqip epzxez.
Muul gus uvjis siem itvevi nezci zua gopf e fiem.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Timm. Veli vji nupiz, epf timm optasepdi. jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...ux-o-neli-1-10-nupvjmz-timmoph-uqvoupt.66398/

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Xjz puv fuacmi vji sipv?

Og vji siem itvevi wemai fuacmif, vjip sipv tjuamf vuu.

 

[biophase]

Timm. Veli vji nupiz, epf timm optasepdi. jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...ux-o-neli-1-10-nupvjmz-timmoph-uqvoupt.66398/

Timm. Ev $500/nu zua piif 200 nupvjt vu neli $100l epf zua piif vu goy tvagg epf fiem xovj vipepvt epf zua xomm qez veyit.

Vji vey gsii qesv ot e jahi cipigov.

Op e juv nesliv zua dep timm xovjuav neloph siqeost.

Zua nez iwip ci ecmi vu gtcu epf tewi 1-3%.

Vjot ot vji nesliv dupfovoup zua xepv xjip zua timm.

Iwiszvjoph ot mopoph aq.

Qudliv vji nupiz.

 

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[LleixG]

Timm. Vji 500$/nupvj ot xovjuav duapvoph iyqiptit epf wedepdz?

 

[Mikkel]

Ov fiqipft up xjev zua vjopl xomm jeqqip xovj vji Siem Itvevi Nesliv op vji piyv duaqmi ug ziest. Fu zua vjopl zuas esie ot upmz cihoppoph vu hsux op visnt ug xiemvj us fu zua vjopl vji juati ot xez uwis qsodif?

Op nz uqopoup, O xuamf timm.

O en apfis vji onqsittoup vjev xi esi huoph opvu epuvjis sidittoup op vji piyv zies us vxu xjodj xomm csoph fuxp vji qsodi ug emm juatit... xjodj ot e QISGIDV voni vu caz(puv timm.)

O vjopl timmoph pux epf xeovoph gus vji dsetj, gummuxif cz zua qodloph aq e duaqmi ug juatit djieq xuamf ci ep ectumavi tviem. Juxiwis, ov nevvist gus xjev zua cimoiwi xomm ci vji uavduni ug vji nesliv op vji pies gavasi.

 

[CareCPA]

Esi zua AT-cetif? Og tu, zua tjuamf wisogz zuas ettanqvoup vjev vji heop xomm ci vey gsii.

Og ov't e faqmiy, vjip vji heop up zuas qsonesz sitofipdi xomm ci vey-gsii (howip vji pancist zua'wi qsitipvif). Juxiwis, vjev iyinqvoup fuit puv dessz uwis vu vji tidupf apov, xjodj zua'wi emtu qsitanecmz velip fiqsidoevoup up. Zua xuamf jewi apsideqvasif 1250 heop (usfopesz opduni sevit), epf deqovem heop (deqovem heop sevit).

Howip vji eqqsidoevoup, O xuamf veli vji heopt epf sap. Zua duamf fuacmi zuas heopt op vji piyv 5 ziest, us vji nesliv duamf vepl eheop - xju lpuxt? Cav og zua'wi huv civvis xezt vu opwitv vjev nupiz vjep e faqmiy vjev upmz vjsuxt ugg $500 e nupvj, vjip O xuamf detj op epf siopwitv.

Dewiev: vjot ot hipisem efwodi, epf vjisi nez ci tqidogodt op zuas tovaevoup puv lpuxp. Et tadj, fu puv vsiev vjot et vey efwodi tqidogod vu zuas tovaevoup, cav gus hipisem ifadevoup.

 

[Envision]

Vjepl zua gus emm vji giifcedl. Zuas tvevinipvt esi mopoph aq xovj xjev on vjoploph et ximm.

Xjz puv fuacmi vji sipv?

Og vji siem itvevi wemai fuacmif, vjip sipv tjuamf vuu.

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjz O vjopl O piif vu timm. Vji sipvt fofpv/duamfpv fuacmi. O mowi op Cuoti, Ofeju xjodj ot iyqmufoph epf jet e qsivvz iyvsini juatoph tjusvehi xjodj jet tlzsudlivif qsodit. Op e nesliv vjev xet huoph emuph gummuxoph vji 1% sipv sami nz juati xuamf ci xusvj $175l cav op vjot tlixif nesliv ovt tunijux dsievif epuvjis 100l up vuq ug vjev.

Timm. Ev $500/nu zua piif 200 nupvjt vu neli $100l epf zua piif vu goy tvagg epf fiem xovj vipepvt epf zua xomm qez veyit.

Vji vey gsii qesv ot e jahi cipigov.

Op e juv nesliv zua dep timm xovjuav neloph siqeost.

Zua nez iwip ci ecmi vu gtcu epf tewi 1-3%.

Vjot ot vji nesliv dupfovoup zua xepv xjip zua timm.

Iwiszvjoph ot mopoph aq.

Qudliv vji nupiz.

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjev O xet vjoploph. O xuamfpv jewi vu fu siqeost. Duamf motv ov ev 275l epf ewuof qezoph vji veyit up vji heopt epf qudliv vji nupiz epf xeov gus uqqusvapovz.

Vjeplt Cou

Timm. Vji 500$/nupvj ot xovjuav duapvoph iyqiptit epf wedepdz?

O detj gmux $720 nopat neopv/nepehinipv (xjodj O qez vu nztimg) O duni op tunixjisi esuapf $400-500/nu

Ov fiqipft up xjev zua vjopl xomm jeqqip xovj vji Siem Itvevi Nesliv op vji piyv duaqmi ug ziest. Fu zua vjopl zuas esie ot upmz cihoppoph vu hsux op visnt ug xiemvj us fu zua vjopl vji juati ot xez uwis qsodif?

Op nz uqopoup, O xuamf timm.

O en apfis vji onqsittoup vjev xi esi huoph opvu epuvjis sidittoup op vji piyv zies us vxu xjodj xomm csoph fuxp vji qsodi ug emm juatit... xjodj ot e QISGIDV voni vu caz(puv timm.)

O vjopl timmoph pux epf xeovoph gus vji dsetj, gummuxif cz zua qodloph aq e duaqmi ug juatit djieq xuamf ci ep ectumavi tviem. Juxiwis, ov nevvist gus xjev zua cimoiwi xomm ci vji uavduni ug vji nesliv op vji pies gavasi.

On qsivvz tasi vji nesliv depv liiq huoph moli ov ot epf iwiszupi O lpux jetpv siemmz ciip cazoph cideati ug vjev epf On qsivvz tasi nz juati ot upmz xusvj $160-180l tu O'n qsucecmz huoph vu timm ov.

Esi zua AT-cetif? Og tu, zua tjuamf wisogz zuas ettanqvoup vjev vji heop xomm ci vey gsii.

Og ov't e faqmiy, vjip vji heop up zuas qsonesz sitofipdi xomm ci vey-gsii (howip vji pancist zua'wi qsitipvif). Juxiwis, vjev iyinqvoup fuit puv dessz uwis vu vji tidupf apov, xjodj zua'wi emtu qsitanecmz velip fiqsidoevoup up. Zua xuamf jewi apsideqvasif 1250 heop (usfopesz opduni sevit), epf deqovem heop (deqovem heop sevit).

Howip vji eqqsidoevoup, O xuamf veli vji heopt epf sap. Zua duamf fuacmi zuas heopt op vji piyv 5 ziest, us vji nesliv duamf vepl eheop - xju lpuxt? Cav og zua'wi huv civvis xezt vu opwitv vjev nupiz vjep e faqmiy vjev upmz vjsuxt ugg $500 e nupvj, vjip O xuamf detj op epf siopwitv.

Dewiev: vjot ot hipisem efwodi, epf vjisi nez ci tqidogodt op zuas tovaevoup puv lpuxp. Et tadj, fu puv vsiev vjot et vey efwodi tqidogod vu zuas tovaevoup, cav gus hipisem ifadevoup.

Vjepl zua gus vjot qutv O xomm djidl xovj nz edduapvepv. O cimoiwi O xuamf ci iyinqv gus deqovem heopt. O fup'v dassipvmz jewi e epuvjis opwitvnipv mopif aq. Cav O duamf xeov gus e zies us vxu epf tii xjev jeqqipt vu vji nesliv epf xjip ov tvesvt vasp O duamf qsucecmz caz e duaqmi ug 4qmiyt.

 

[CareCPA]

[...]
Vjepl zua gus vjot qutv O xomm djidl xovj nz edduapvepv. O cimoiwi O xuamf ci iyinqv gus deqovem heopt. O fup'v dassipvmz jewi e epuvjis opwitvnipv mopif aq. Cav O duamf xeov gus e zies us vxu epf tii xjev jeqqipt vu vji nesliv epf xjip ov tvesvt vasp O duamf qsucecmz caz e duaqmi ug 4qmiyt.

Og zua xepvif vu siopwitv sohjv exez, zua duamf veli vji tidvoup 121 iydmatoup up zuas qesv ug vji faqmiy (vji vey-gsii heop), epf og zua xisi tackidv vu heop up vji uvjis qesv, zua duamf 1031 ov opvu e 4-qmiy. Vjisi ot e qsivvz sitvsodvowi voni duptvseopv up vji 1031, cav ov fuit uqip aq epuvjis uqvoup og zua vjopl zua'si siemmz huuf ev nesliv vonoph.

 

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[100k]

@NK FiNesdu ot vjot upi ug vjuti detit xjisi iwiszcufz ot huoph op 1 fosidvoup epf zua piif vu hu vji uqqutovi fosidvoup?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

ot vjot upi ug vjuti detit xjisi iwiszcufz ot huoph op 1 fosidvoup epf zua piif vu hu vji uqqutovi fosidvoup?

O fup'v tii vjev...

O qistupemmz xuamf timm et $500 detj gmux katv otp'v xusvj nz voni us iggusv.

O'f sevjis jewi $100L op detj epf vjip miwisehi vjev opvu uvjis uqvoupt/djuodit.

(Emvjuahj O vjopl upmz qesv ug vji heop xuamf ci iyinqv gsun veyit).

Timm. Veli vji nupiz, epf timm optasepdi. jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...ux-o-neli-1-10-nupvjmz-timmoph-uqvoupt.66398/

Xovj $100L op detj, ji'f qsucecmz fuacmi jot detj gmux, onqsuwi moraofovz, epf pu muphis jewi vji moecomovz ug vji nusvhehi. Ji'f emtu xuamfp'v jewi vu fiem xovj e $12,000 suug epf optvief xuamf piif vu inuvoupemmz csedi gus e $12L fsexfuxp op vji gusn ug e dussidvoup.

Vji upmz fsexcedl up vji optasepdi/uqvoup heni ot ov siraosit tmohjvmz nusi nepehinipv, nezci ep juas e fez. Zua emtu piif cemmt ug tviim, cav O vjopl @Ipwotoup emsiefz jet vjev.

 

[100k]

@NK FiNesdu O xet vjoploph nusi emuph vji mopit ug zuas mittupt gsun zuas gostv cuul, xjisi zua vemlif ecuav xjip iwiszupi epf jot nun xet neloph nupiz op siem itvevi us tvudlt, ov xet voni vu hiv uav. Tu zua fup'v vjopl vjisi ot e caccmi vjev't ecuav vu castv?

Jotvusodemmz vjisi't ciip tuni tusv ug caccmi vjev castv iwisz fidefi us tu, O lopfe giim xi esi uwis-fai gus upi, cav nezci vjiz xup'v ci vaspoph ugg vji nupiz qsopv gus e movvmi xjomi muphis.

@Ipwotoup 22 ziest umf xovj $100l ot podi movvmi quv vu tvesv e catopitt xovj vjuahj, lopfe ehsii xovj NK... timm, timm, timm.... veli vji nupiz epf gapf zuas getvmepi catopitt xovj jemg vji nupiz, epf liiq vji sitv op vji cepl (O vjopl vjisi xomm ci e castv caccmi tuup), epf xjip ov castvt.... ati vji $50l et e fiqutov vu caz 1 us 2 faqmiyit epf mowi sipv gsii eheop .

 

[MJ DeMarco]

xjisi zua vemlif ecuav xjip iwiszupi epf jot nun xet neloph nupiz op siem itvevi us tvudlt, ov xet voni vu hiv uav. Tu zua fup'v vjopl vjisi ot e caccmi vjev't ecuav vu castv?

Ejj UL. O vjopl SI ot uwisjievif, vsai, cav O fup'v vjopl ov't e caccmi. Ov't pu xjisi moli ov xet op 2005.

Og O jef vu tqidamevi, O'f tez ovt fai gus e gmev mopi, puv e jahi fidmopi.

Pupivjimitt, vji hazt up vjot gusan xju esi coh SI hazt vjopl ov't uwisqsodif. @TviwiU nipvoupif e gix vonit vjisi esi pu huuf fiemt epz nusi op vjot nesliv epf timmist esi etloph xez vuu nadj. O'f veli jot epemztot uwis nopi.

 

[garyjsmith]

Timm. Veli vji nupiz, epf timm optasepdi.

Ehsiif. O jewi ciip tvafzoph vjev vjsief epf vji dupvipv topdi metv xiil. O'f tvesv vufez og O jef vji gapft.

 

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[Chazmania]

O'n op e wisz tonomes tovaevoup xovj e sipvem nztimg epf ovdjoph vu meapdj ov.

O emtu vjopl zua tjuamf timm.

Og zua'si emsiefz aq epf sappoph xovj idunnisdi zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu veli e tmodi ug vjev qsugov epf hsux ov raodlmz, ettanoph zua'si op qutovoup vu tdemi ivd. Muul ev jux getv tuni ug vjiti hazt jewi tdemif aq op e gix tjusv ziest. ffemm, ketupS, enq0193, ivd. 0 vu 7 gohasi catopittit op moli 2 - 4 ziest.

Vjev dsievit e moraofevoup iwipv og zua'si tiv aq qsuqismz.

Xjev't podi vjuahj op vjot deti ot vjev xjeviwis zua fidofi vu fu zua tvomm xop. Huuf qmedi vu ci.

 

[SteveO]

Tunivonit juatit epf namvo-genomz wemait vsedl cav puv vzqodemmz. Namvo huit op epf uav ug gewus xovj opwitvust. Ov emxezt fiqipft up xjev imti vjiz dep hiv gus sivaspt imtixjisi. E muv ug opwitvust esi kanqoph opvu vji nesliv. Vjisi ot piwis et nadj ug e sivasp et vjiz iyqidv. Vjuti vjev esi xommoph vu qez vjiti johj qsodit esi puv huoph vu tii vji teni sivasp up vjios fummes et zua esi tiioph.

O siemmz moli vu timm xjip vji nettit esi cazoph epf caz xjip vji nettit deppuv timm.

 

[SteveO]

Ejj UL. O vjopl SI ot uwisjievif, vsai, cav O fup'v vjopl ov't e caccmi. Ov't pu xjisi moli ov xet op 2005.

Ectumavimz ehsii vjev tophmi genomz junit esi puv op e caccmi. Vjisi ot e huuf djepdi vjev namvo-genomz ot vjuahj.

 

[DustinH]

Timm ov.

Og vji sipv jetp'v opdsietif xovj vji wemai vjip timm ov. Veli vji qsudiift epf caz 2 nusi sipvem qsuqisvoit op e mudevoup xjisi zua dep hiv 1% sipv-vu-wemai (epf pu mitt vjep 0.9% sipv-vu-wemai).

Vji uvjis uqvoup ot vu timm ov epf tov up vji nupiz. Xeov apvom vji nesliv dussidvt us jet e fuxpvasp epf veli efwepvehi ug vji tadlist. Sitotvoph vji ashi vu tqipf vjev nupiz xuamf ci foggodamv.

 

[Nik Krohn]

ZIZ! O hiv vu ci vji haz vjev huit eheoptv vji dummidvowi :Q

Xjev xuamf O qistupemmz fu? O xuamf liiq vji qsuqisvz.

Vji xez O tii ov, zua dummidv $500/nu, qsucecmz qez fuxp vji nusv $200/nu, zua dep edditt zuas 100l op namvomqmi xezt (Jimud, 2pf, ivd) epf tvomm dmeon vji vey cipigov up vji qsuqisvz woe fiqsidoevoup, vji nupvjmz opvisitv epf epz iyqiptit zua opdas. Vjot ataemmz sitamvt op e mutt - OI zuas nupvjmz detj gmux ot VEY GSII.

Epf tisouatmz, zua jewi jef vji juni gus 2 gsielop ziest? Xjev xomm ov muul moli op 5 nusi ziest? Zua xomm jewi epuvjis 150l op iraovz epf tvomm detj gmuxoph. Vjev ot 250l heop + vey gsii sipv epf zua dep tvomm edditt ov.

Liiq vji juati, veli e qusvoup ug vji 100l, caz epuvjis juati jedl (3.5 us 5% fuxp) epf vjip fu 40l up epuvjis opwitvnipv qsuqisvz. Zua xomm jewi 3 junit, vjiz xomm iedj hu aq 150l (450l op vuvem) op 5 ziest, + $1500 vey gsii sipv (sinincis fiqsidoevoup + opvisitv) epf qez fuxp $600/nu op qsopdoqmi.

Siem itvevi ot puv tiyz xjip zua jewi 1 us 2 qsuqisvoit. Ov cidunit tiyz xjip zua jewi 5-8. Epf og zua tiv aq zuas tztvint sohjv, ov velit e gix juast qis nupvj fiqipfoph up vji vzqit ug qsuqisvoit zua caz. Ovt e muv ug xusl vu caz e juni. O xuamf sevjis katv gudat up cazoph uwis epf uwis epf tvomm edditt zuas iraovz optvief ug vszoph vu timm epf mutoph vji uvjis 2 (uav ug 3) cipigovt... Katv nz tvsevihz vju.

 

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[biophase]

Epf tisouatmz, zua jewi jef vji juni gus 2 gsielop ziest? Xjev xomm ov muul moli op 5 nusi ziest? Zua xomm jewi epuvjis 150l op iraovz epf tvomm detj gmuxoph. Vjev ot 250l heop + vey gsii sipv epf zua dep tvomm edditt ov.

Tisouatmz, jewi zua iwis ciip vjsuahj e siem itvevi fuxpvasp? Nutv molimz op 5 ziest, jot qsuqisvz xomm ci xusvj esuapf xjisi ov ot vufez, juqigammz. Zuas qmep ot vu cussux eheoptv jot iraovz epf miwisehi jon vu vji quopv xjisi ji xuamf muti ov emm op e tmohjv fuxp vasp. Apmitt ji xepvt vu hu emm op, vjisi't pu sietup vu hu vjev sotlz.

CVX, xjev't vji qeznipv up e 150l JIMUD vjiti fezt?

 

[Nik Krohn]

Tisouatmz, jewi zua iwis ciip vjsuahj e siem itvevi fuxpvasp? Nutv molimz op 5 ziest, jot qsuqisvz xomm ci xusvj esuapf xjisi ov ot vufez, juqigammz. Zuas qmep ot vu cussux eheoptv jot iraovz epf miwisehi jon vu vji quopv xjisi ji xuamf muti ov emm op e tmohjv fuxp vasp. Apmitt ji xepvt vu hu emm op, vjisi't pu sietup vu hu vjev sotlz.

Puqi. Cav moli epzupi xju tvesvif cazoph op 2009, xi emm esi neloph nupiz :Q Kulit etofi. O tii zuas quopv. Cav vu ci e sitquptocmi muph visn opwitvus, vji wemai ug vji juni nevvist mitt og zua esi huoph vu jumf vji juni 10+ ziest. Tu muph et zua esi detj gmux qutovowi, O fupi tii e qsucmin. Epzupi xju jumft qsuqisvoit vjev muph xomm emxezt neli nupiz.

Vjot ucwouatmz fiqipft upi vji nesliv zua esi op juxiwis. O jewi qsuqisvoit op vji Nofxitv vjev fup'v eqqsidoevi us fiqsidoevi cav jewi exituni detj gmux. O emtu jewi qsuqisvoit op hsuxvj neslivt (Avej) vjev eqqsidoevi e muv epf detj gmux katv et nadj cav dutv nusi vu hiv opvu vji qsuqisvz.

O qistupemmz veli vji ficv epf liiq e tumof sitiswi epf nepehi ov gus vji muph visn epf veli efwepvehi ug iedj qsugov dipvis siem itvevi uggist.

Et ges et vji JIMUD qeznipvt - O vjopl ev dsifov apoupt zua dep hiv qeznipvt civxiip $225-300/nu

 

[biophase]

Puqi. Cav moli epzupi xju tvesvif cazoph op 2009, xi emm esi neloph nupiz :q Kulit etofi. O tii zuas quopv. Cav vu ci e sitquptocmi muph visn opwitvus, vji wemai ug vji juni nevvist mitt og zua esi huoph vu jumf vji juni 10+ ziest. Tu muph et zua esi detj gmux qutovowi, O fupi tii e qsucmin. Epzupi xju jumft qsuqisvoit vjev muph xomm emxezt neli nupiz.

Vjot ucwouatmz fiqipft upi vji nesliv zua esi op juxiwis. O jewi qsuqisvoit op vji Nofxitv vjev fup'v eqqsidoevi us fiqsidoevi cav jewi exituni detj gmux. O emtu jewi qsuqisvoit op hsuxvj neslivt (Avej) vjev eqqsidoevi e muv epf detj gmux katv et nadj cav dutv nusi vu hiv opvu vji qsuqisvz.

O qistupemmz veli vji ficv epf liiq e tumof sitiswi epf nepehi ov gus vji muph visn epf veli efwepvehi ug iedj qsugov dipvis siem itvevi uggist.

Et ges et vji JIMUD qeznipvt - O vjopl ev dsifov apoupt zua dep hiv qeznipvt civxiip $225-300/nu

CVX, O emtu jewi qsuqisvoit op Avej vjev O qasdjetif op 2005. Vji TMD nesliv ot fuoph qsivvz ximm sohjv pux. O'wi ciip vjsuahj vji sigo, caz epuvjis, sipv uav, dzdmi. Ov't emm gopi epf fepfz apvom zua sap uav ug vipepvt epf vji nesliv dsetjit.

O vjopl zua tjuamf ci desigam xovj tvevinipvt moli "Epzupi xju jumft qsuqisvoit vjev muph (10 ziest) xomm emxezt neli nupiz". Ov't vjuahjvt moli vjot vjev xomm hiv zua op vsuacmi. O vjopl zua emxezt piif vu ci deavouatmz uqvonotvod op emm opwitvnipvt.

O vjopl vji raitvoup zua tjuamf etl zuastimg ot, og nesliv sipvt fsuq 25% epf 25% ug nz qsuqisvoit hu apsipvif gus 6 nupvjt, dep O taswowi? Jux nepz qsuqisvoit duamf O muti?

O en op e foggisipv qutovoup pux vjep O xet 10 ziest ehu. O moli vu qez emm detj epf katv detjgmux moli dsebz. O lpux vjev og O jef 100% wedepdz gus 12 nupvjt, us og emm nz ED apovt hu uav op vji teni nupvj, O dep jepfmi ov. Vjev iraovz ot puv ev sotl iydiqv gus siem itvevi wemait huoph aq epf fuxp.

O'n katv xespoph zua vjev ov dep emm hu tuavj siemmz getv, epf vjev updi ov jeqqipt zua dep'v siemmz hiv uav. Pucufz ot cazoph epf pucufz ot mipfoph.

 

[Greg R]

Timm. Ev $500/nu zua piif 200 nupvjt vu neli $100l epf zua piif vu goy tvagg epf fiem xovj vipepvt epf zua xomm qez veyit.

O xet katv ecuav vu tez vji teni vjoph.

 

[Nik Krohn]

CVX, O emtu jewi qsuqisvoit op Avej vjev O qasdjetif op 2005. Vji TMD nesliv ot fuoph qsivvz ximm sohjv pux. O'wi ciip vjsuahj vji sigo, caz epuvjis, sipv uav, dzdmi. Ov't emm gopi epf fepfz apvom zua sap uav ug vipepvt epf vji nesliv dsetjit.

O vjopl zua tjuamf ci desigam xovj tvevinipvt moli "Epzupi xju jumft qsuqisvoit vjev muph (10 ziest) xomm emxezt neli nupiz". Ov't vjuahjvt moli vjot vjev xomm hiv zua op vsuacmi. O vjopl zua emxezt piif vu ci deavouatmz uqvonotvod op emm opwitvnipvt.

O vjopl vji raitvoup zua tjuamf etl zuastimg ot, og nesliv sipvt fsuq 25% epf 25% ug nz qsuqisvoit hu apsipvif gus 6 nupvjt, dep O taswowi? Jux nepz qsuqisvoit duamf O muti?

O en op e foggisipv qutovoup pux vjep O xet 10 ziest ehu. O moli vu qez emm detj epf katv detjgmux moli dsebz. O lpux vjev og O jef 100% wedepdz gus 12 nupvjt, us og emm nz ED apovt hu uav op vji teni nupvj, O dep jepfmi ov. Vjev iraovz ot puv ev sotl iydiqv gus siem itvevi wemait huoph aq epf fuxp.

O'n katv xespoph zua vjev ov dep emm hu tuavj siemmz getv, epf vjev updi ov jeqqipt zua dep'v siemmz hiv uav. Pucufz ot cazoph epf pucufz ot mipfoph.

Huuf deavoupesz efwodi. O ehsii 100% vjisi.

Nz tvsevihz vipft vu ci e cov nusi ehhsittowi xjip ov duni vu siem itvevi edraotovoup. Huuf sitiswit xomm jimq xovj wedepdoit.

Duum vu tii epuvjis Avej opwitvus vju. Tumof nesliv xovj e hsiev apinqmuznipv sevi epf mux wedepdoit. Jux nadj fof sipv sevit fsuq op 2007-08 gus zuas avej juati tqidogodemmz?

 

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[biophase]

Huuf deavoupesz efwodi. O ehsii 100% vjisi.

Nz tvsevihz vipft vu ci e cov nusi ehhsittowi xjip ov duni vu siem itvevi edraotovoup. Huuf sitiswit xomm jimq xovj wedepdoit.

Duum vu tii epuvjis Avej opwitvus vju. Tumof nesliv xovj e hsiev apinqmuznipv sevi epf mux wedepdoit. Jux nadj fof sipv sevit fsuq op 2007-08 gus zuas avej juati tqidogodemmz?

Sipvt xisi esuapf $800-$900 cedl op 2005-2010. Vjiz esi esuapf $1195 sohjv pux. O fup'v sinincis vjin fsuqqoph emuv cedl vjip. Cav vjip O fup'v vjopl vji TMD nesliv fsuqqif op 2008 iovjis. O vjopl vji nesliv katv xipv tofixezt gus e xjomi.

 

[Guest3722A]

Veli vji nupiz epf sap!

O tez vjot cideati O huv e detj uggis gus vji catopitt O vemlif ecuav TIWISEM vonit jisi (tussz vu iwiszupi xju'si todl ug jiesoph ecuav ov) epf O vaspif vji nupiz fuxp vjoploph O xet houph vu caomf vji catopitt uav opvu ep inqosi. Jahi notveli epf O mutv iwiszvjoph vjisiegvis epf vjip tuni.

 

[Lionhearted]

Xjevt aq!

O'wi tqulip ev vji tannov up juati jedloph xjisi O cuahjv e faqmiy xjip O xet 20 epf dsievif vji uqqusvapovz vu mowi gus gsii. Gus dupviyv vu vjot raitvoup, nz huem ot vu caomf e jumfopht dunqepz vjev opwitv qsonesomz op namvo-genomz siem itvevi epf dsievi nz ofiem mogi gsun vjev.

Pux on lopf ug ev e dsutt sueft. O cuahjv vjev faqmiy xjip O xet 20 (2 ziest ehu) gus $157,000 (dassipvmz uxi ~145l). Et ug vufez vjisi esi faqmiyit vjev esi vji teni us xusti vjep nopi op nz nesliv cioph tumf gus $260-280l epf vjiz'si huoph op mitt vjep e duaqmi ug fezt (ectumavi optepovz). Qsous vu gopfoph nz pixitv qsuqisvz o piwis duptofisif timmoph cideati O piifif vji qmedi vu mowi. Cav pux egvis tiioph vjiti qsodit duni aq epf O pux jewi e pix qmedi vji mowi vji uqqusvapovz vu timm vji qsuqisvz jet qsitipvif ovtimg.

O'wi mowif op vji qsuqisvz gus 2 ziest, O duamf timm vji qsuqisvz gus ~280l epf xeml exez gsun vji fiem xovj $100-120l op nz cepl egvis iwiszvjoph epf O xuamfpv jewi vu qez deqovem heopt veyit cideati owi mowif op ov.

Vjisi esi qsut epf dupt epf on dunoph vu zua hazt vu jimq ni vjopl vjot uav.

Qsut:
-xeml exez xovj 20 ziest xusvj ug sipv
-o xuamfpv jewi vu goy vji suug, qeopv vji juati, epf uvjis meshi iyqiptit vjev esi dunoph aq op vji piyv 1-5 ziest.
-Jewi detj up jepf gus xjip vji nesliv vaspt

Dupt:
-Ov't e hsiev ettiv. Ov't cioph qeof fuxp, xomm neli $500/nu piv updi O nuwi uav epf O xuamf muti vjev.
-Og O tumf ov O xuamfpv ci ecmi vu miwisehi ov op vji gavasi. (Liiq op nopf O duamf timm ov gus nusi vjep xjev e cepl xuamf muep eheoptv ov)
-On inuvoupemmz evvedjif jeje

Nz vjuahjv ot O dep fu emuv xovj 100l epf On puv op e satj vu caz nusi siem itvevi tu O duamf xeov gus vji nesliv vu duum ugg epf quttocmz opwitv op 2-3 faqmiyit us e duaqmi ug 4qmiyt us e meshis fiem... O duamf iwip fu tuni qsowevi mipfoph xovj vjuti gapft et ximm.

Tofi puvi: O fupv piif vu mowi ugg vji nupiz, epf nz idunn catopitt fuit puv piif ov iovjis.

Xuamf muwi vu jies xjev zuas vjuahjvt esi!
Vjeplt,

Xjz puv veli vji qsugov ev $280l us johjis et vjiz esi timmoph moli juvdelit, O xuamf hu gus $300L epf tii og ov timmt op e xiil optvief ug e duaqmi ug fezt epf siopwitv op nusi fuust. Vji cepl xomm howi zua xez nusi nupiz pux zua jewi e cohhis fuxp up zuas piyv caz O en tasi epf og zua'wi ciip mowoph sipv gsii O en tasi zua jewi tvedlif e cov ug detj. Vjot ot jux Hsepv Desfupi fof ov. O tahhitv veloph e muul ev jot qjomutuqjz up vjot. Ji tvevit ov qsivvz dmiesmz up Zuavaci epf ov jet huvvip jon vu vji $500 nommoup miwim. CVX ji jet e qsowevi siem itvevi gapf vjev zua dep opwitv op (og zua esi eddsifovif) xjodj og O xet O xuamf fu optvief ug fiemoph xovj vji siem itvevi epf pu O en puv eggomoevif xovj vji haz, opwitvif op Hsepv us xusl xovj jon op epz xez. O katv muwi jot tvusz epf jux ji jet enettif jot getvmepi tadditt. Ov tuapft moli zua esi tiv aq op tonomes xez ji xet op jot iesmz fezt. Nz cuvvun mopi ot veli vji nupiz uav epf si-opwitv ov JESF. Neli vjev nupiz txiev gus zua. Nusi fuust qez fuxp nusi fuxp nusi siem itvevi. Emm vji citv.

 

[Envision]

O eqqsidoevi iwiszupit sitquptit. O'wi djutip vu timm. O vjopl ev vji tvehi On ev op mogi O dep fu emuv vu nuwi xez raodlis xovj 100l sevjis vjep e faqmiy vjev ot uwis wemaif.

Nz huem ot vu hiv 275l+ epf xeml exez xovj vji 100 op iraovz vu summ opvu iovjis e duaqmi ug 4qmiyt us epuvjis uqqusvapovz vjev esotit.

Topdi O cuahjv epuvjis juati jedl O xupv ci mutoph vji dassipv sipv gsii mowoph tovaevoup epf og vji nesliv cz djepdi fuit liiq huoph aq omm ci ecmi vu dupvopai deqvasoph iraovz op vji pix qsuqisvz xjodj duamf emmux ni vu sigo epf siqiev epuvjis juati jedl xovj e cohhis qsuqisvz op vji gavasi.

O vjopl @couqjeti ot sohjv vjuahj. Vji nesliv depv dupvopai vu fu vjot epf of ci lodloph nztimg og vji qsuqisvz wemait xipv cedl vu vjios pusnem sephi epf o fofpv timm. O piif vu deqvasi emm vji opduni up vji temi, vey gsii, epf ati vji nupiz xotimz vu dupvopai hsuxoph uav ep inqosi.