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I can't vouch for Andrew's program one way or another, but this...

It just seems as though you're taking advantage of people

just reeks of victimhood... C'mon man!

If you don't like his program, DON'T BUY IT. Pretty simple eh?

If you buy his program and get results, did he take advantage?
If you buy his program and have no results, but didn't use it properly, did he take advantage?

He's only "taking advantage" if everything he says doesn't work. I really don't believe that.

You know how many people read TMF and did absolutely nothing with it? I'd guess 99%. Does that mean I took advantage of them too?

The fact is, you can give people a detailed map to the treasure, but most won't bother using it. Instead, with map in hand, they then go hunting for the FREE limousine that will comfortably chauffeur them to the treasure.
 

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What are some of your real life experiences? Not helping others but you...Yourself?

So I had more time to think about this, so I'll share a few examples from my life...​

I Cured My Own Fast Food Addiction in 5 Seconds

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While my life experiences started before this, I first got introduced to these concepts during a training I went to in 2014.

Up until this point, I used to eat fast food 3x a day (breakfast, lunch, and then a snack after dinner). I gained a lot of weight and was groggy all the time. Then, with a 5-second visualization process, I rewired my brain to instantly get grossed out whenever I thought of fast food. After a long-standing addiction, this 5-second visualization process resulted me never eating McDonalds, Wendys, or Burger King ever again since that day.

It was in this moment where I realized how change actually happens in an instant...

I went from zero confidence to over-confidnece in the matter of a few hours

I think it stemmed from being picked on a lot during middle school in high school.

I believed a lot of the terrible things people send to me. Into my early-adulthood years, I would always feel like people were judging me, that I wasn't good enough, and I doubted myself in everything. I always settled for less when it came to dating or whatever becuase I didn't think I was good enough.

The emotional baggage has always been there - there was always the movies replaying in the back of my mind of people calling me a loser and that i'd never amount to nothing - and one point it got so bad, I had to find another way.

I discovered an emotional release technique that instantly got rid of the baggage. I learned how to adjust the details of the movie that played in my mind, and I learned how to tap into the inner-most workings of my unconscious mind where one simple filter (my self-image) rested.

By spending 20 minutes doing a few of these techniques, my lack of confidence instantly turned to confidence in myself -and then eventually to over-confidence and cockiness. People would tell me that I've gone too far, by hey - I have the confidence to not care what other people think of me anymore.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkePG8XGjX0


I used to have severe social anxiety.

When I was younger, I wouldn't even talk on the phone.

I would always be nervous and anxious and usually locked myself in the room on the computer on the weekends when my two roomates at the time went out to the clubs on the weekend.

Now, I can be in the middle of a foreign country, walk in a night club, instantly make best friends with a group of people there, where we are all having fun, and we drink until the late hours of the morning.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dR7dno-fWE


I eliminated stress from my life completely.
In October 2015, the business I built up crashed out of nowhere.

I was forced to rush to the emergency room on two occasions in the middle of the night due to the heart palpitations and other symptoms of the stress. This left me going in and out of doctors offices all winter, until a doctor handed me a bottle of anti-depressants.

Instead of taking them, I went out in search for a natural solution, and found it. I've used to completely eliminate stress from my life so I can go walking through life with the clarity of a buddhist monk - even in the most stressful situations.

I used to fear failure.
My largest fear before quitting my corporate job was if I would run out of money in the middle of a foreign country.

So I decided to face my fears head on - and put myself in the middle of a foreign country, giving away all my money, and see if I have what it takes to get out. It was not only a fun experience, but that first night was probably one of the top best nights of my life.

I used to procrastinate all the time & feel stuck in life.
I joined this forum in the middle of a recession/depression back in 2011.

I couldn't get a job for the life of me, I was a victim to life's circumstances, and I was full of excuses as to why I couldn't do anything..so I never did anything about it. After reading MJ's book, I told myself that one day I would be able to do the same. To not only live a life like that, but to inspire and help others break free too.

I motivated myself to publish two books, three udemy courses, 10+ different apps, and start two more businesses in the process to help people overcome all of the mental bullshit I pushed myself through - realizing that it wasn't necessary all along.

I went on to build up the app company to over 1 million downloads...

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Quit my job, and spent years of my life traveling all across the United States without having to work a single hour for nearly 18 months....

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8a8TDBUDc


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PhD83gTu1M


And laugh when people told me that living off of passive income is impossible...even after I've been doing it for 12 months.

Started a youtube channel to inspire others like I always dreamed of...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wxaOiv9sWE


Published two books helping people like I wanted to do 4 years before:

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The ability to wake up and realize I made more money in my sleep than I used to make in an entire month at my old job....


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The ability to do work that actually has a massive impact on people's lives...

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And travel the world, living in a timeless bubble of reality, surrounded by extremely positive and uplifting people while I used to never think I could escape the corporate grind...Screen Shot 2017-03-14 at 6.05.20 PM.png

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I discovered how to always be happy
And after transitioning from being stuck in life, browsing these forums dreaming of the day I could finally be successful, not doing anything about it, struggling and being stressed out about it, living a life with no hope or belief in myself....

...to living out all of my wildest dreams of traveling for years while living off of passive income, impacting the lives of over 1,000,000 people people, transforming into the type of person I thought I could never become, facing my worst fears of being out of money in a foreign country, coming back stronger, publishing two books, being in full control of the direction of my life, and then traveling the world - living out every single one of my dreams while I was still in my 20's....I realized something...

I discovered that no matter how much I chased these things and how much more I got, myself, with tens of thousands of other entrepreneurs, we are left dissatisfied, always chasing more - never happy where we are at.

Then I learned how to always be happy in life, to be stress-free and at peace, how to be able to create whatever experience I want in my life regardless of how bad things look on the outside, and I have learned how to help others do the same...not only from my experience, but mostly from the tools I use for my business.

So yeah...I've used these things to create a few changes in my life.

Hope that answers your question.
 

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Just to affirm my position:

- I am a hypnotist
- My primary clients are smoking, weight loss and stress/anxiety
- I work in a small office I rent
- I work approx 25hrs a week
- I have a 6 figure net profit business
- I never wake to an alarm clock
- It is incredibly rewarding on a personal level

I didn't see anywhere in the copy "Get rich easy" or "fix everyone's problems 100% of the time". So relax and open your minds guys.

Think:
  1. Before there is action there is thought (no matter how brief that thought is).
  2. Change your thoughts and your actions change
  3. To get better results, think like successful happy people do.
 
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This post might be ironic but people seriously need to stop with these disparaging posts on a marketplace thread. The OP paid for this advertising and we should all respect that. Either you're interested in what he has to offer or you're not. If the latter, all you have to do is leave the thread.

These kind of posts on these paid threads are increasing lately...
 

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Surely you must know that 'Business in a Box' is a death sentence here?

You would think so. However for a lot of lurkers and people in the shadows, I think their biggest objective isn't "fastlane" or building something unique -- it's just getting started on "something" and experiencing some wins.
 

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I'll chime in here.

I've spoken with @AndrewNC a bit about the psychology of sales. He knows what he's doing, he has results with clients and he's obviously made a successful business for himself. Also, you don't get a "Legendary" here if you don't contribute quality here. Look at guys like Vig, Bio, JasonR. If they posted something like this, you'd take their word for it.

What I will say is that the initial post and copy was a little ambiguous.

It does look like it's structured as an affiliate deal.

@AndrewNC, for the sake of clarification, could you break it down Barney style as to what exactly you're offering. No copy, just simple bullet points.
 
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I think you forgot to add world peace and solving world hunger in the list of stuff you can accomplish in 60 minutes with this program. And six pack abs.

PS: Adding something about "exact steps" in your copy might help too.
 

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Hi All,
I have started and stopped/failed at several business. A perfume business, a body care line, a candle line, photography business and creating art to sell. Mainly on the side, while working a regular job. None made any money because I was thinking small and struggle with that damn self belief. I spend all of my time not at work learning, reading business books, listening to business building podcasts and developing new skills.
Here I am again a year and a half into a soul crushing corporate job, that on paper is my dream career, except the reality is it's not. I am very entrepreneurial and always have been. I am ready to give it another shot. Because of what I have learned and done in my corporate jobs. Travel, speak and teach I have overcome the majority of self doubt. If I can do it for a company and be very successful why can't I do it for myself. The answer is I can and will.
I am an artist, photographer and teacher. I am working on monetizing those to a higher level. Also, I have so many product ideas constantly that I fill up notebooks. I love the idea creation, it's the execution and development that I get stalled at.
I'm happy to say hi and love all that I read here. Hi MJ, you rock! @MJ DeMarco
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Lisa,

I replied to your thread to give you a quick piece of advice the other day, but most people read advice, get suggested more books, read books, and then fall back into the same pattern that they've been stuck in for years on end.

And wouldn't doing more of that lead you to where you are already at now?

Most of the time I see people on here shooting themselves in the foot and holding themselves back and I want to jump in and scream that I can help them - because that's exactly what I do/have been doing for my fastlane business. I just cant go out and offer my services on normal threads....so since this is a paid marketplace thread, I'll offer my solution for your problems here.

This is not a pitch for this training program that I have on this thread...you would not be a good fit for it, because...

I love the idea creation, it's the execution and development that I get stalled at.

You're not executing.

Part of the reason for this is because you don't know if the idea you're choosing is going to pay off in the long run. You don't want to waste your time walking down the wrong path, little to realize that the path you've been walking down for the last year and a half (or more) has been the soul-crushing path that has been the very thing that has wasted your time the most.

So the first thing would be to understand what's important to you in the business you start and your core values. You have a million ideas that keep floating through your mind, and you're not following through with any of them. That's like trying to build a sand castle at the beach, putting down one bucket of sand - and then running to chase a seagull and then putting down a new bucket somewhere else.

All of a sudden, you have a notebook full of dreams that never unfolded.

So what I would do is to help you choose ONE sandcastle to build....

Break that one large business down into smaller tasks and "quick wins" that keep you motivated along the way. And you know those times after work or on the weekends where you know you SHOULD be working, but you're not doing what you need to do?

You do the feel-good tasks that give you that immediate rush,but you're not going out and making sales and building a business out of your ideas?

I would put some motivational factors in place to make sure you do those small, uncomfortable tasks one at a time until they build up and you have something to show for it.

Think of it this way - someone wants to get in shape and they don't see the results when they get on the tredmill after the first day. If they wrote me a $10,000 check and I got to cash it if they didn't get on the tredmill tomorrow? Would they actually do the things they needed to do in order to get results?

Yes...

So from all the tools I teach others from the program I offer on this thread - my actual business is to put these tools to use to motivate you to do the things you need to do. To give you the full clarity and confidence that the ONE business you work on will pay off. And to prevent you from spending another year, five years, or 10 years at this soul-crushing job.

I don't promise that million dollar business (because that's up to you) but I do promise to get you "on that tredmill" of business so you finally break free from that holding pattern you've been stuck in for a while.

And you'll notice significant progress in your life...

I didn't write this for you...

I've seen hundreds of others who fall into this same holding pattern that you've described - so if yourself (or anyone else reading this) is interested in actually making progress with their business instead of sitting around and dreaming of the day they can finally get results...

Send me a PM...

Or continue to do what you've been doing. Choice is yours :)
 

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Adding something about "exact steps" in your copy might help too.

Thanks for the feedback. The exact steps are taught in the final weeks of the training.

For your example with the six-pack abs...I would start off with assisting them through the manifestation process of the abs (which I might talk about in a follow-up post to this one), and once that is done, I'd use the following script for installing motivation...

Let's assume the client is held back by the two following problems:
  1. Isn't motivated to go to the gym, and
  2. They easily gives into junk food cravings.
#2 - I would use a series of emotional release techniques to release the emotional attachment to the junk food. I would then use neuro-association so that when the person thinks of the (the Big Mac), they immediately get the neurological/emotional reaction as if they were thinking of eating slime...or something else disgusting.

Then I would use another neuro-association technique to create a new neural pathway in the brain - so whenever that trigger even happens (they see the golden arches), this automatically leads to the thought of going to Jamba Juice or somewhere healthier.

The really interesting part is that the unconscious mind (where the habits are stored) makes change in an instant - and can't tell the difference between real and imagined events. So in a couple of minutes using visualization processes, we can easily create the new neural pathway.

Clearing up those emotional attachments to foods and mental habits would take about 20 minutes.

#1 - procrastination -> motivation

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When a person thinks of going to the gym, they will have a picture in their mind (the way the unconscious mind stores memories) that represents them doing the hard work of running on the tredmill, lifting weights, and a million other things.

Each of these thoughts/pictures has an emotion attached to it -> so by chunking down to one specific step, it clears the mind from all the different tasks, and eases the emotion of simply...going to the gym in the first place.

I would then shift these internal representations of seeing themselves doing the hard task, to one of them feeling great AFTER they go to the gym. This way when they think of working out, they no longer get the physiological reaction of overwhelm/hard work, but they get that positive feeling (K) of feeling great after the workout.

When they think of not going to the gym, they usually have a positive feeling (K) of sitting on the couch and potato chips. Instead, I would shift up that programing so the thought of not going to the gym leads to a vision of them being fat, obese, in the hospital with diabetes and tubes sticking out of their....

yeah.

So this part of the process would take about 40 minutes, and in 60 minutes ore less -> you can get the client on track to getting those six-pack abs.

For world peace...that might take a little longer (example - aligning the values of two conflicting nations). A more likely client would be relationship counseling where you align the highest intent of each parties and clear up and negative baggage.

I offer that as a 12-20 week package because there's a number of moving parts involved.

In the IM world, you may call that a "profit maximizer" when your single session client who you help getting the six pack abs will now want their relationship saved because their spouse is too mad that they spend all their time in the gym and go from a fat, unmotivated, slob into a fitness model with six-pack abs, and the health of a greek god.

Man, I wish all the other programs that teach what I do include the step-by-step exact steps...but unfortunately they don't.
 
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Ok let's set things straight:

an overpriced affiliate guide
First off, you have no clue what you are talking about.

1. There are thousands of members of this forum who are struggling to find a product or service to sell and I am offering them a solution.
2. I am offering my personal mentorship to train them in the skills AND allow them to sell products on their website (NOT affiliate).
3. These services allow them to start their own business which has the reach to improve the lives of literally billions of people, and the business model falls into line with every aspect of the NESCT principles that the members of this forum value.
4. A forum member (who I have no relation with and don't think I ever spoke to in my life) confirmed that the ability to solve these problems in less than an hour is possible because he already has a business similar to this (I presume) AND I linked to a real-life video demonstration from the man who mentored me in these skills who is a well-respected doctor with decades of experience...and it shows that these things work.

The reason why this business model is worth the value listed is because of how quickly it actually changes customer's lives and how most people (even 99%) of this forum don't even know about it. You are speaking from your own ignorance in very much the same way a sidewalker would comment on MJ's book and call him a scam.

Are you sure you even belong here?

I am offering a solution to the struggling members of this forum because they are struggling to start a business. Many of them who will continue to go on for years of struggling if they try to go about it on their own. I offer a solution to help them start a real business which can scale into millions of dollars if they are committed to growing it that far and are willing to put in the work..

And when they come to this thread, the first replies they see are from you, who (once again - you have no clue what you are talking about - you have never taken my trainings, you have never worked with my company, and your only reference experience is of some guy that your mom took a course with who send you an affiliate link or something??).

meant for sharing opinions, no matter what they may be.

No.

According to The Canadian Bar Association, the things you said are illegal (in both The United States and Canada), as they violate Libel and Defamation laws, which grant me the right to sue you for damaging my business from the false things you said.

you're taking advantage of people,
these programs
are absolutely meant to take advantage of those who don't know any better-
got roped into one of these programs

You have never even taken one of my programs.

If some get-rich-quick ebook author roped someone into a $40,000 real estate seminar, would you stereotype MJ into the same category? Don't answer that because of #2 below...

So how about this...

This is a forum at the end of the day, meant for sharing opinions, no matter what they may be

Here is my "opinion"...

My opinion #1 - You click the EDIT button on your first post and include an apology to any struggling members of this forum who might have passed on this offer, and who may continue to be stuck in the slowlane for years because of the ignorance of your comments. Make clear that you are still butt-hurt by some guy in Toronto

My mom almost got roped into one of those programs here in Toronto. I decided to meet with the guy who ran that program, and it was nothing more than a basic affiliate website guide and some youtube videos.

I edited your words above from "these" to "those" because I have no clue who that guy even is.

My opinion #2 - STOP posting on my thread and go back to spamming reddit and sending out copy-and paste boiler-pitch templates to companies that you have no interest in actually helping.

My opinion #3 - I'll forget about the laws you have broken, I won't sue you for defamation of character and libel (because I already wasted enough time typing this post for you and you already wasted the time of others who read this thread), and we part ways... CBA British Columbia - 240

I've had people email me after their family members have had strokes, heart attacks, and are suffering from things we can't imagine in their life - and I have the tools that actually help them. I created this off in-part because as I grow my brand, I'll have too many clients to work with myself and I already began training others that I'll be sending work to.

There are millions of people out there who need help and you're doing nothing except getting in the way...

P.S. - Thanks for continuing to bump my post to the top of the forum news feed ;)
 

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@KLaw and @ToySoldier are a great example of what Scott Adams has been talking about on his blog a lot lately.

2 conflicting movies.

On the one hand; we have 2 people who probably haven't taken the time to actually read the thread and see the value that is on offer, shouting "SCAM!" because of a previous experience.

On the other; you have those who will see this as an interesting opportunity to get themselves started on something.
 
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This post might be ironic but people seriously need to stop with these disparaging posts on a marketplace thread. The OP paid for this advertising and we should all respect that. Either you're interested in what he has to offer or you're not. If the latter, all you have to do is leave the thread.

These kind of posts on these paid threads are increasing lately...

This is a discussion forum, not a safe space.
 

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I think when talking about results in the social sciences the words:

"Can, will and may" become important. Literals such as "eliminate" are probably not the best choice. I know for certain Google adwords will ban the a$$ of anyone in the health space who uses such terms.

There can never be a guarantee of success.

Regardless of the testing a pharma company does it cannot guarantee that their drug will cure you.

While I have seen some impressive results in my 10,000 or so client sessions over the last decade, I prefer to use the words 'significant change". Because that's what usually happens.

I know my results because I follow up on clients (I have hundreds of txts just like the one below)

PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT OFFERING MY SERVICES ON THIS FORUM: PLEASE DO NOT ASK..Thanks
 
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Very interesting interactions here ....Congrats @AndrewNC .

I don't know @AndrewNC personally. We have never met. However, I feel compelled to back his character. I'm a pretty good judge of people because, well, that's what i did for many years...yep, I judged people :devil:. @AndrewNC and I messaged back and forth a few times. The very first time I asked him a question, he wrote about a 4 paragraph response (not trying to sell me anything), and I was like, damn, this guy took a lot of time for me !

I also read his latest book. It was a good read. I've studied some of what he teaches so I knew a lot of the material, but there was a plenty I didn't know. Personally, I would trust the guy. No, I'm not getting a kickback or anything by saying this. I just felt I should speak up. Carry on.
 

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This post might be ironic but people seriously need to stop with these disparaging posts on a marketplace thread. The OP paid for this advertising and we should all respect that. Either you're interested in what he has to offer or you're not. If the latter, all you have to do is leave the thread.

These kind of posts on these paid threads are increasing lately...

This.
 

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For a guy whose bread and butter is communication - your copy is pretty incompatible with members of this forum. Surely you must know that 'Business in a Box' is a death sentence here?

What's your reason for not writing copy tailored to this crowd? Personally and professionally curious.
 

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For a guy whose bread and butter is communication - your copy is pretty incompatible with members of this forum.

I'm just as amazed as you to see how successful this marketplace ad has become! :) I think it went even better than I expected...

More views and more engagement in the first 7 days than virtually every other ad in the marketplace! I wonder why...

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Why did this ad get so much attention?

I have a very specific type of person I'm trying to attract for this program and I'd prefer to screen out some of the type of people I don't want to work with (early posters on this thread as a broad example).

The Law of The Diffusion of Information

In 1918, Quantum Physicist Max Planck went on to win the Nobel Prize in Physics and is the first to introduce quantum theory. This was a major breakthrough leading to the detailed understanding of atomic and subatomic processes. While we're entrepreneurs, you must admit in the scientific community, the Nobel Prize and this discovery is quite an achievement.

The important part to understand is that in 1875 (decades earlier), this (once-student) was told by one of his teachers ( Philipp von Jolly) not to go into physics because: "in this field, almost everything is already discovered, and all that remains is to fill a few unimportant holes." It turns out that over 90% of scientific discoveries have happened since the 1960's, (90 years after science professor said that almost everything has been discovered).

While most people cry foul about the offers I make, they aren't the ones I'm speaking to...

Fixed vs. Growth Mindset

Most people on here read the things I offer (the 60-minute sessions/etc.) and they approach it with a fixed mindset. In the same way physicists in the 1800's thought they knew everything there is to know about physics, and how most of the major breakthroughs have been made since 1960....a lot of the ways people go about things TODAY are ineffective (21 days and willpower to break a habit of a junk food addiction vs. my example of breaking one permanently in less than a few minutes without willpower).

In my personal experience, a medical doctor who spent over a decade studying medicine prescribed me a bottle of pills with terrible side effects for stress..which I was able to eliminate in the matter of a couple of minutes.

The type of people who fall into the previous category fall into the Early Majority. They need more social proof.

I'm looking to specifically attract those with a growth mindset (Early Adopters) to help be one of the first ones in bringing something innovative to the mainstream. The ones who took this training last year are the ones who wanted to be one of the first ones to "ride the wave", and who have that deep belief that just because they have struggled in the past doesn't mean that things always have to be the way they have been...

While what I say may not be ready to be learned by the early majority and late majority...I'm speaking to the early adopters...
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So I screened out the ones who aren't ready to start a business in this field...and successfully attracted the ones who are open to innovative ideas (personal preference for who I want to work with). The ones who fall into this category are the ones who see through the internet trolls and deep down the feel that this offer is aligned with what they want in a business...

The ones I don't want to attract don't get it so they serve their own purpose...

Surely you must know that 'Business in a Box' is a death sentence here?

If I'm being sentenced to death, I might as well make the best of it and turn it into a public execution...

Let me ask you a question:

If it's a damp evening and you're trying to start a bon fire....is it easier to:
  1. Try to spark the first ember and try to build a bonfire that way?
  2. Or would it be easier to take a fire that's already lit and douse it in gasoline, causing flames to fly to the sky?
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In 2009, Ryan Holiday was hired as the media strategist to promote the movie "I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell".

As part of his campaign, he framed Tucker Max as a woman-hating manipulator and womanizer who is about to be seen by millions of young men who might turn into him.

Then he purchased banner advertisements on women's rights groups and religious groups all across the internet (NOT his target market).

The thing here is that the existing emotions against womanizing were already strong and already heated...so this was Ryan's way of getting their gasoline to pour on the fire. Instead of trying to create emotions in itself, he found ones that are already emotionally charged and utilized those as a loudspeaker for more attention...

The more the women protested, the more attention the movie got...

This caused a media uproar and womans groups all across the country boycotted and protested this movie, which caught the attention of the mainstream media, who got hooked on this story and spread the fire even further.

The woman and religious people would never want to watch this movie, but the uproar they caused got the attention of the masses, and the demographic who would be interested in this offer anyway heard about it...and the movie made a lot of money in the first week...BECAUSE of the uproar caused by its opponents.
The emotions (gasoline) is already strong with everyone who comes here on a regular basis, and the spark I lit with my offer definitely got the gasoline poured right on it, and seen by the type of people I want to attract.

I knew I was going to get some heat with this because I made an offer for my services last year and the fire was lit back then too...which ultimately turned my largest critics into my most vocal promoters (knowing their posts would bump it up in the news feed).

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And then someone was destined to ask

"Who the f*ck are you! How are you qualified to be teaching this!? You sound like one of those GURUS that we all hate around here!" (common pattern from my previous offers). I knew someone on here wanted to be the one recognized for calling me out. KLaw just happened to ask it in a nice way and not with the judgement I was expecting from someone. :) :)

So instead of talking about my credentials and qualifications up front, someone was destined to ask about it, so when I answered their question, I wouldn't come off as self-promoting, and making it more effective.

And luckily for me, I not only built a business with over 1,000,000 people impacted, I quit my job, I've made thousands of dollars in a day, I've lost 50 pounds in a very short period of time, and I've traveled the world - living the dream of most people who come to this forum and are just starting out...but I also have videos and photographs showing me do all that, making the "proof" strong enough that nobody could deny how powerful of a change this has been for my own life.

And that would attract some of "The Early Majority" (from the image above) to be more interested in the offer knowing that I walk the walk, and that I am in fact separate from those "gurus" that everyone here gets so heated about..

The Decision Making Part of the Brain

And for the ones who read this thread, it has been a roller-coaster ride of emotions from "he can't be serious" to "someone called him out" to "more calling him out" to "oh shit, he actually had results in his life" to "oh, he used these to transform the lives of others".

To my next post (after this one)...which will describe what I offer in a more "fastlane forum-friendly" format.

These emotions are what makes this thread stand out, and people take action with emotions, and not logic...

I only want to attract a specific type of entrepreneur...

Those Early Adopters who are have that growth mindset, and are open to new information. So they are the ones who can feel deep down that this is a type of business that they could see themselves benefiting from. They see through all the drama on this, because what I offer is what they believe in - and everything else surrounding it is just fuel to light the fire to get more eyeballs on this.

Resulting in:
  • Effectively qualifying my leads,
  • Screening out the unqualified leads,
  • Knowing how people would react, gaining a lot of attention and impressions,
  • This post being written further demonstrating my expertise in human behavior,
  • Leading more people to realize that I know a few things that could really help them build their business.
Having critics and naysayers on a thread like this creates an opportunity for everyone to learn something.

OR
  • I had no clue what I was doing.
  • This thread spiraled out of control.
  • I can finally breath a sigh of relief when Gareth comes in and explains in a logical manner how this can actually be turned into a business.
  • I obviously don't know how to make an offer that appeals to this forum.
And I only learned all these valuable lessons in human behavior after-the-fact?

Want to find out the real answer?

Click Here to find out before I take it down.
 
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This is what's going to happen after you begin this program...

On April 3rd, you will formally begin your training.

I will personally mentor you one-on-one via Skype, Facebook Messenger, Text Message, Email, etc. and teach you all the fundamental skills in helping transform human behavior. Within the first two weeks, you will learn skills that you can begin earning an income from:
  • Eliminate Stress & Anxiety
  • Overcome Junk Food Cravings
As the program progresses:
  • You will gain access to a formal workbook and video training modules to teach you 20+ techniques that can help people overcome problems (such as the ones listed above) in 30 minutes or less.
  • You will learn about how to access "the other 90%" of the human mind, where change happens in an instant.
  • You will learn how to rapidly build rapport & trust with people, so you can lead them into new states of being, and helping them break free from problems they are stuck in.
  • You will learn how to use your language to influence people below their conscious awareness (for their benefit and their best interests).
What separates this program from anything else like it is that you will not only learn the fundamental skills, but you will learn from my insights of working with hundreds of clients before. Anybody can read a textbook with logical information, but it's the real-world experiences that separate the academics from the entrepreneurs.

This way, by the end of your training, you will know exactly how to get a person from where they are to where they want to be in life - in as little as 30 minutes or less.

By June 30th, you will go through a certification standards test and you will be trained in a skill that you can charge $250/session, $5,000+ per client for, and I will allow you to sell digital products I've created (until you take the time to create your own).

I want to give you my clients...

As I grow my business, I'll begin taking on more clients than I can personally handle on my own. The reason I created this program is to train you to (not only) grow your own business (where I will show you how to do sales/marketing to land clients that pay you thousands of dollars), but where I can also save you the effort from making sales - where I send you my clients and you get paid as a consultant under my wing (as well as the manager in my company).

We will guide you along the way, but since I created this program to help serve more customers under my brand name - I am going to make sure that you learn the skills you need to learn to be a master in this trade...This is not an "information product". It is a training program that will allow you to create an actual business, and you must follow it all the way through and commit to it.

If you are struggling to find a business idea, and you need the certainty that you will be starting a business that follows the NESCT principles...this is it.

NESCT Principles

NEED -
Everybody on this planet suffers from some type of mental/emotional problem.
  • Stress,
  • Anxiety,
  • Fear,
  • Doubts,
  • Lack of Fulfillment & Purpose
  • Compulsive Habits
  • Laziness & Procrastination
  • If somebody loses thousands of dollars in a weekend with a gambling addiction, will they gladly pay you $1,000 (or more) to solve it for them?
  • What about a high-income earner who spends $50,000 per year on a shopping addiction?
  • If the founder of a successful company is about to have a stroke or heart attack from the stress and anxiety that it takes to build a business, would they pay anything for a solution that could (literally) save their life)?
From the hundreds of clients I've personally worked with, I've mastered the skills it takes to rapidly solve problems in people's lives in 60-minutes or less. I've helped professional athletes deal with the stress and anxiety that gets in the way of operating at peak performance. I've taken business owners on the verge of a nervous meltdown after being in the hole hundreds of thousands of dollars, only to have them completely calm and relaxed within 30 minutes of working with them. And within a week, they get back on track with their business.

There is a need in virtually every market for helping people with these skills.

ENTRY - It took me years of study and working with hundreds of clients to get to where I am with using these skills first, and teaching others second... While the information is out there to learn these skills - most people give up before they can attain this level of mastery.

And where the Entry is not a 10/10, this is made up by the scale...

SCALE - Over 7 Billion people on this planet...Helping motivate people to improve their fitness is one subsection of one market that could turn into a million dollar business. The possibilities to grow your business between different industries, to productize your services, or to train staff to work under you allows this to be a company where you can separate your time from money.

CONTROL - You will be in full control of your business where companies such as Apple or Amazon or Whoever can't pull the plug from under you.

TIME - You'll begin learning how to do client sessions first, I will license out digital products for you to sell, and eventually you will be able to separate your time from your money by hiring others or focusing exclusively on digital content.

Who I'm looking for...

I'm looking for someone who has that outward-focus on helping others, who is excited to learn about psychology, personal development, and growth...and someone who is ready to lead by example.

You don't need any experience to get started because all the training and experience you will need is within the program.

You just need the drive to grow a business and the motivation to commit to this 100%.

If this interests you, applications for this second training class are closing on March 21st.

Click here now to apply today.
 
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This post might be ironic but people seriously need to stop with these disparaging posts on a marketplace thread. The OP paid for this advertising and we should all respect that. Either you're interested in what he has to offer or you're not. If the latter, all you have to do is leave the thread.

These kind of posts on these paid threads are increasing lately...

Respectfully, I've gotta disagree with you there. This is a forum at the end of the day, meant for sharing opinions, no matter what they may be. Regardless of how much OP has paid for this post, it shouldn't be enough to silence the opinions of those who disagree.

Just my two cents.

EDIT: AndrewNC has threatened to sue me for defamation if I don't publicly apologize to you fellow members and retract my opinion regarding his marketing tactics in this forum. Consider this my apology.
 
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@AndrewNC, I went to your website but didn't see any prices listed. I remember you had a course before that I considered buying but never did. It looks like you've changed your approach since I last visited your site. Is that video course no longer available, or did that become one of your Udemy courses? How can I find you on Udemy?
 
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I've shut down viral YouTube channels due to negative comments. Hundreds of thousands of views and hungry followers all gone overnight. I didn't owe them jack shit. And though many people found the videos valuable, the negative comments weighed me down. For that reason, I pushed delete, and whether they deserved that or not, the channel went away.

"the negative comments weighed me down"

As an up-and-coming copywriting mentor/celebrity/public figure, you're going to be facing a lot of criticism, negativity, and other things that may continue to weigh you down.

In these moments, you are faced with two options:
  1. Change YOUR actions away from the things YOU want to do...because other people get the best of you, or
  2. Make yourself bulletproof where no matter how much negativity comes your way, you are equipped to hand it, and you'll float forward on your journey of helping others...because you are emotionally balanced enough to handle anything.
  • Which option will help build your brand bigger?
  • Which option will help you not suffer from the emotional struggles that you have faced in the past?
When I was featured in Inc. Magazine years ago, I had 350 hate mails/some death threats sent to me out of nowhere. Out of nowhere this was a flood of negative emotions that came my way. When my business went through a rough time in 2015, I was flooded with so much stress and anxiety that I was in and out of the doctors offices for 6 months throughout the winter, and a doctor tried to hand me a bottle of anti-depressants.

I face the same types of negativity that you are dealing with....and I have the tools to handle it. I know you have many of the tools to deal with it on your own from the trainings you've went through - but sometimes it's easier to have someone who does this all the time to step in and help - I focus a lot on the emotional side of things vs. you framing them up in copywriting.

In 60 minutes or less (usually about 20-30), if you're feeling that feeling of being weighed down or anything else, I can quickly help you reset and get back on track - and thrive off of the energy that is coming your way, instead of letting it slow you down.

My normal rates for most sinister villains: $95,384.85 per hour.
For you: You've helped me plenty before so if anything ever does come up in the future that might have thrown you into a downward spiral, hit me up on Skype and first session is free. It's usually something you can break free from very quickly.
 
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Frankly, I think advertising "the elimination of fears and phobias in under an hour" validated my gut feeling about this business. You're banking off people who see this and this it'll actually make them stop smoking in sixty minutes.

Sounds like you're just taking advantage of unknowing customers by selling them an overpriced affiliate guide. Am I wrong?
 

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I can't vouch for Andrew's program one way or another, but this...



just reeks of victimhood... C'mon man!

If you don't like his program, DON'T BUY IT. Pretty simple eh?

If you buy his program and get results, did he take advantage?
If you buy his program and have no results, but didn't use it properly, did he take advantage?

He's only "taking advantage" if everything he says doesn't work. I really don't believe that.

You know how many people read TMF and did absolutely nothing with it? I'd guess 99%. Does that mean I took advantage of them too?

The fact is, you can give people a detailed map to the treasure, but most won't bother using it. Instead, with map in hand, they then go hunting for the FREE limousine that will comfortably chauffeur them to the treasure.

I see what you're saying MJ, but I've seen these programs run first hand in Toronto.

Sure, Andrew's core program might work and he's certainly contributed a lot to this forum, but his advertising is sleazy at best. Claims like "quit smoking and gambling in an hour" are absolutely meant to take advantage of those who don't know any better- and it rubs me the wrong way.

My mom almost got roped into one of these programs here in Toronto. I decided to meet with the guy who ran that program, and it was nothing more than a basic affiliate website guide and some youtube videos. Not saying Andrew's program doesn't provide value- it might. But that's a mighty predatory way to advertise it.
 

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Not interested in becoming an affiliate.....

Am interested in your 12 week training. :) Possible to just sign up for the training for personal improvement? Is it the same material offered on the website for 20/mo?
:) - Just for clarification for anyone reading this - the only "affiliate part" of the offer is for people who go through the program and want to refer others after they graduate. The products listed are licensed as private label where they get control to sell the courses/physical books on their own website, under their full control. For example, if someone wants to help motivate people in fitness - they would get the video course and book I wrote on motivation, and can sell that as a product until they get enough experience to create one under their own brand.

I knew better than to make those affiliate offers on the Fastlane forum of all places haha.

And yes, you can definitely sign up. Just include your forum name in the application so I know it's for personal development and not as a practitioner.

This is completely separate from the materials on the site - those mainly teach more practical skills from my experience in business. For this, I'll be training you in person over skype - supplemented by videos/worksheets that I create and send out each week. It's more than just a video course because I found this is the best way for people to absorb information.

Any questions you have or any specifics you have to learn, I'll teach you how to be able to go at this on your own.

Hope that answers your question fully!
 

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Hello!

I'm new here and I'm creating this post in hopes of getting some titles of books that have helped transform you into who you are today. I know I need to shift my mind to think as a shark and no longer a guppy. I appreciate all the helpful suggestions in advance!

Hey,

Im answering your post here because while books can share valuable insights, they often put you into "the learning loop" where it does nothing except release dopamine in your brain where you feel accomplished and you don't make the change.

Instead of looking for something out there/something new, the quicker way is to release what's getting in the way from realizing that you already have the ability and some things are simply getting int he way.

The white light theory.

Imagine for a moment that you are this white light at the end of a dark tunnel. This tunnel is filled with your doubts, fears, insecurities, lack of confidence, uncertainty, etc.

You were born into this world as this white light with an empty tunnel that shines through to the surface.

Then experiences have happened over the years which fill that tunnel with emotional baggage. Family, society, media filling you with their values and social conditioning. People telling you to be realistic or that you're not good enough.

Your unconscious mind keeps a perfect recollection of every experience (thought/emotion) that has ever happened to you. In the moment before that emotional imprint/even happened, those limitations didn't exist. Often times these limitations in your mind are here, and you don't even remember how they got there.

You already have what you need inside of you. Instead of trying to go search for more information, you simply have to remove what's getting in the way and let it all out.

Attached to this message is a document I created about a timeline release technique. There are hundreds/thousands of things which have built up over the years and you can chip away at clearing up that tunnel one by one. By removing a few of the main ones, you'll notice a very rapid shift.

Here is a video demonstrating the technique with a past practitioner:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nne-jTZU1Y0


Set the intent to work on a specific limitation, and then let your unconscious mind guide you to the event.

Video is in this message and the workbook is attached. This is one technique that will help you a lot.

From there, there are other techniques that will chip away at any other emotions or thoughts that get in the way of being exactly who you want to be, and releasing any blockages that prevent you from moving forward with the confidence, clarity, and focus to be on line to flow through this fasltane journey with ease.

There are many of those people who come here all excited after you read MJs book and then quickly give up and go onto the next thing....

If you're not one of them and you're committed to building a business and committing to this for life - there are no books that can quickly help you - but the offer I have in here is able to teach you the psychological tools that can. If you're interested, fill out the application and I can train you in everything I know. If finances are an issue, payment plans are an option.

Or if you have other business ideas in mind - I do offer my services and you can message me directly.

Hope this helps :)

-Andrew
 

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