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Free registration at the forum removes this block.What color shirts does everyone where? Does it matter as long as it is not bright and flashy?
For me solid colored clothing. Absolutely no logos.I think most guys go with white or light blue when wearing a suit.
When not wearing a suit, then it doesn't really matter as long as it matches and isn't bright and flashy.
I'm a solid color kind of guy myself though. I've never liked the look of striped shirts.
Personally, I wear Sperrys or athletic shoes with golf clothes depending on what I’m doing. Try driving shoes. I generally wouldn’t wear golf clothes to a meeting unless I was inviting someone to my club or to an informal lunch.
this topic is interesting, but why almost all successful tech entrepreneurs of the last 20 years, dress like this
this topic is interesting, but why almost all successful tech entrepreneurs of the last 20 years, dress like this. I mean like @Kak said, they need their customers, they need their investors but they dgaf. And no they didnt start dressing like this when they achieved fu money. Sam Walton dressed like a redneck in the beginning when meeting up with potential business partners.
I think KAK is right with this topic but i made several very bad experience with people that dress very well, either they are sales people or a big bluff. Just my observation.
I established my ability to creditably opine on such topics in my first post.
Tell us about yourself @Vanderbilt What's your background? What created such a clear and perfect understanding of business attire?
i already said that i think you are right, reread my post. Sounds like some people here get offended on this topic. I just posted my observation. Nothing more, nothing less.
No offense taken. You made some pretty definitive claims... According to you “almost ALL” successful tech entrepreneurs dress like sh*t. Tell us how you came to that conclusion.
i get the impression they never heard about business dress etiquette.
I agree and can't help but wonder if it would have done them some good along the way. Once upon a time they didn't have the name to go on. They were introducing themselves to people that had no idea who they were. Today their credibility is established. They are operating on their name.
Many choose to continue dressing for success even after their name is well known. For example, all of the sharks on Shark Tank dress very nicely, except Cuban, but he looks like a slob doesn't he?
yes, Cuban dress the worst but is also the most successful regarding financial success.
Strange isn't it?
Yea but his is like the ‘all billionaires dropped out of college so you should too’ thisyou are right my sentence was too overstated. when i look at people like Jan Koum(Whatsapp), The youtube founders, Tony Hsieh(Zappos), Daniel Ek(Spotify), Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs etc.. i get the impression they never heard about business dress etiquette.
ALL of the billionaires I can think of that ‘dropped out of college’ (Zuck, Jobs, Gates) did so because WHILE they were in college they started raking in millions
i mean if you’re sitting in your calculus class while Microsoft starts raking in billions... yea, i agree. Drop out.
Either way.. he dropped out because of Microsoft. People think because there have been some very prolific and public billionaires who dropped out of Harvard, they think that dropping out of college is the path to billions. First off, Harvard is extremely selective in the first place and to even get in you have to basically be in the 99th percentile of IQ (150 and higher,) and have already have an impressive resume before even starting school. In other words, guys like Zuck and Gates were extremely gifted before they went to college, which is likely the reason for their success, rather than the fact that they’re dropouts or don’t dress to the 9s (even though i certainly don’t think they’re poorly dressed.)Gates wasn't making millions before he dropped out, not even close.
Gates wasn't making millions before he dropped out, not even close.
This picture will make you wonder. Who was the one coding the software and who was the one selling the software?
*Hint* Gates has said he looked over every line of code for the first 5 years they were in business.
The conclusion, if you hate fashion but good at making inventions you coop up with a sales guy
i didn't give crap bout fashion for a long time, but now i found a middle ground by dressing fitted.
fash·ion
/ˈfaSHən/
noun
Fashion is NOT what we are going for here. Fashion is what @The Abundant Man posted full of movie stars. Fashion people will buy skinny ties and tiny lapels and a suit so tight they'll look like a bobblehead.
- 1.
a popular trend, especially in styles of dress and ornament or manners of behavior.
Rico suave sales douche in his shark skin suit and his jet black greased back hair is NOT what we are going for here either.
I'm also not talking about wearing the same cheap, wrinkled, dress code, suit 16 days in a row like the 35k per year analyst on the 5:30 subway train living out his miserable existence.
Even the word "style" implies some sort of eccentricity.
We are ONLY looking at timeless business attire that has been the staple of American business for more than the last century. Clothes that make you look like someone that can do what you say you can do. The fact remains, we judge people on first impressions. If you look like a dipshit, you will more often than not be treated like one. If you look like an intelligent, capable and educated LEADER you will do better in business.
That said... this is why I like Brooks Brothers. There is nothing in the store I loathe. It's all classic American business.
@Vanderbilt this entire forum is devoted to entrepreneurship. A form of leadership. Ushering in the new. Leading people to adopt your visions of how whatever industry should work. We don't do that from the back room with our heads burried in some piece of technology dicking around with intracacies best left to the experts. There is a reason Ray Crock turned McDonalds into what it is today. There is a reason Waziniack needed Jobs. There is a difference between leader and expert. You can be both, but if your business is to outgrow your efforts, experts must be hired to their role.
fash·ion
/ˈfaSHən/
noun
Fashion is NOT what we are going for here. Fashion is what @The Abundant Man posted full of movie stars. Fashion people will buy skinny ties and tiny lapels and a suit so tight they'll look like a bobblehead.
- 1.
a popular trend, especially in styles of dress and ornament or manners of behavior.
Rico suave sales douche in his shark skin suit and his jet black greased back hair is NOT what we are going for here either.
I'm also not talking about wearing the same cheap, wrinkled, dress code, suit 16 days in a row like the 35k per year analyst on the 5:30 subway train living out his miserable existence.
Even the word "style" implies some sort of eccentricity.
We are ONLY looking at timeless business attire that has been the staple of American business for more than the last century. Clothes that make you look like someone that can do what you say you can do. The fact remains, we judge people on first impressions. If you look like a dipshit, you will more often than not be treated like one. If you look like an intelligent, capable and educated LEADER you will do better in business.
That said... this is why I like Brooks Brothers. There is nothing in the store I loathe. It's all classic American business.
@Vanderbilt this entire forum is devoted to entrepreneurship. A form of leadership. Ushering in the new. Leading people to adopt your visions of how whatever industry should work. We don't do that from the back room with our heads burried in some piece of technology dicking around with intracacies best left to the experts. There is a reason Ray Crock turned McDonalds into what it is today. There is a reason Waziniack needed Jobs. There is a difference between leader and expert. You can be both, but if your business is to outgrow your efforts, experts must be hired to their role.
Checked out the Brooks Brothers website and I like it. Just a little...pricey.fash·ion
/ˈfaSHən/
noun
Fashion is NOT what we are going for here. Fashion is what @The Abundant Man posted full of movie stars. Fashion people will buy skinny ties and tiny lapels and a suit so tight they'll look like a bobblehead.
- 1.
a popular trend, especially in styles of dress and ornament or manners of behavior.
Rico suave sales douche in his shark skin suit and his jet black greased back hair is NOT what we are going for here either.
I'm also not talking about wearing the same cheap, wrinkled, dress code, suit 16 days in a row like the 35k per year analyst on the 5:30 subway train living out his miserable existence.
Even the word "style" implies some sort of eccentricity.
We are ONLY looking at timeless business attire that has been the staple of American business for more than the last century. Clothes that make you look like someone that can do what you say you can do. The fact remains, we judge people on first impressions. If you look like a dipshit, you will more often than not be treated like one. If you look like an intelligent, capable and educated LEADER you will do better in business.
That said... this is why I like Brooks Brothers. There is nothing in the store I loathe. It's all classic American business.
@Vanderbilt this entire forum is devoted to entrepreneurship. A form of leadership. Ushering in the new. Leading people to adopt your visions of how whatever industry should work. We don't do that from the back room with our heads burried in some piece of technology dicking around with intracacies best left to the experts. There is a reason Ray Crock turned McDonalds into what it is today. There is a reason Waziniack needed Jobs. There is a difference between leader and expert. You can be both, but if your business is to outgrow your efforts, experts must be hired to their role.
Checked out the Brooks Brothers website and I like it. Just a little...pricey.
Though I don't see anything wrong with the Celeb pictures that I posted. Why hate on James Dean and Steve McQueen?
I am the mafiaYou'd look great if you were a mafioso undertaker from the Jersey Shore about to go to a ridiculous club after work... Not to a business meeting. Still better than the Zuckerberg hoodie.
I notice that’s a liberal, California CEO thing... Zuck, Jobs... CEOs in the valley are notorious for wearing 'flip-flops to board meetings.' But I also wonder if weather plays a part. A suit/shirt may be a little rough in the sun like that. I notice NY CEOs don’t do that.Still better than the Zuckerberg hoodie.
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