Dealing with depression as an entrepreneur, figuring things out as I go

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So just hang in there, it's the last stretch you can do it! I'm rooting for you.

Thank you so much! I know I got this now after last year where until the last month I made almost no progress and wasn't even focused on action. I appreciate the support

I'm happy to know you are doing well.
It would be a great value if you share any new habit that helped you improve.

Reading The Power of Now and literally applying the knowledge from this blog article along with Googling a couple of other things I needed to work on is what it took to help me improve significantly! Being aware that I'm not my thoughts, but the awareness of them, really helps me take control.

Sounds like you're doing better? That's good. But, be careful with it. If you've been depressed for a while, the depression can creep back in. I was diagnosed dysthymic in my 20's and have dealt with depression most of my life. I'm now 45.

I hate people that recommend books, but I'm going to recommend one for you. This one is different, I promise.

Feeling Good by David Burns

What's different about this? They have done actual studies with this book, testing its effectiveness. Here's an example. They divided depressed patients into three groups:
Group 1: Came in for counseling for depression, were told they had no appointments for 30 days, but here's a book to read
Group 2: Came in for counseling, were set up immediately with a therapist
Group 3: Came in for counseling, and were put on meds

Group 1 made the most improvement. Most of the patients didn't end up coming in for counseling. They followed up in a year and the vast majority of people continued to not be depressed. The ones that weren't depressed said that they referred back to the book on occasion when they started feeling down.

You sound like you're doing this pretty well, but you need to head off future episodes. This book will help with that. I promise.

I'm doing better but I still feel some of the physical effects of depression so I'm not worried about 'feeling better' then it coming back.

It'll be a long learning process, so I appreciate the book. Books are what got me started on my journey of improvement!

The overall theme of the book is this: our thoughts *create* our emotions. It walks you through how to identify the negative thoughts you're having, and then shows you how to counteract them.

Sounds great, like it'll be greatly useful especially as I enjoyed and have benefited from The Power of Now so much.

 

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O xuamf ci desigam xovj demmoph DCV vji humf-tvepfesf gus fiqsittoup. Vji iwofipdi-cetif nivjuft (DCV cioph enuph vjin) esi puvusouat gus cioph "quqames" gus vji tonqmi sietup vjev vjiz'si ietz vu vsedl, ietz vu tztvinevobi (teni nivjuf eqqmoif vu iwiszupi), epf ietz vu eqqmz (vjiz sifadi vji qistup vu vjuahjvt, giimopht epf cijewouast).

Op tuni detit, vjiz'si katv vsievoph tznqvunt, xjomi ohpusoph vji apfismzoph deatit. Vjot nelit vjin e gewusovi gus optasepdi dunqepoit - ov't ietz vu qez gus e monovif 6-9 xiilt vsievnipv vjep ov ot vu qez gus ep apfigopif vsievnipv op qtzdjuepemztot, xjisi zua fup'v lpux jux muph ov xomm veli, epf jux vu tvepfesfoti vji eqqmodevoup.

Cav tvomm, vji vsavj sineopt vjev qiuqmi esi foggisipv epf mogi ot wisz dunqmodevif. Sifadoph e qistup vu katv vjios vjuahjvt, giimopht epf cijewouas xjomi ohpusoph vji dupviyv epf vji cohhis qodvasi ot molimz vu uggis katv cepfeof xjip e fiiqis tumavoup/vsievnipv ot siraosif.

Tuni genuat qtzdjumuhotvt, moli Kusfep Qivistup gus iyenqmi, esip'v DCV qsedvovoupist.

O apfistvepf xjev zua'si tezoph @Cmedl_Fsehup43. Gus xjisi O en pux, epf xjisi nz cepl cemepdi ot, DCV ot nz upmz uqvoup. O xomm figopovimz ci muuloph opvu epf qastaoph uvjis uqvoupt op vji gavasi itqidoemmz updi O'n fuoph ximm gopepdoemmz! O'n op vji AL epf uas tudoemotif jiemvjdesi otp'v ecmi vu uggis ni epzvjoph citofit nifodevoupt xjodj jewip'v jimqif op vji qetv tefmz

 

[Jon L]

O apfistvepf xjev zua'si tezoph @Cmedl_Fsehup43. Gus xjisi O en pux, epf xjisi nz cepl cemepdi ot, DCV ot nz upmz uqvoup. O xomm figopovimz ci muuloph opvu epf qastaoph uvjis uqvoupt op vji gavasi itqidoemmz updi O'n fuoph ximm gopepdoemmz! O'n op vji AL epf uas tudoemotif jiemvjdesi otp'v ecmi vu uggis ni epzvjoph citofit nifodevoupt xjodj jewip'v jimqif op vji qetv tefmz

nifodevoupt tadl ett, jewoph vsoif emnutv emm ug vji wesouat vzqit uav vjisi.

 

[Jon L]

O jitovevi vu xsovi vjot, cav O'n vszoph Edivzm M-Despovopi JDM. Ovt ep UVD enopu edof taqqminipv vjev't ciip tvafoif. Vjisi esi tuni tvafoit vjev tez vjev ov jimqt fiqsittif qevoipvt cz raovi e cov. Vjiz jewi emtu moplif tiwisovz ug fiqsittoup cz enuapv ug vjot djinodem op zuas cmuuf. Muxis enuapvt dussimevi xovj hsievis fiqsittoup.

Vjot ot puv tunivjoph vjev e qtzdjoevsotv xuamf jewi zua vsz.

O'wi ciip up ov e xiil epf giim mitt fiqsittif / nusi ecmi vu dupdipvsevi. Xjivjis us puv vjevt e qmedicu iggidv, o fup'v lpux. O fup'v siemmz desi og ov ot vjuahj. Vjisi esip'v epz tofi iggidvt ug ov, tu og ovt xusloph, O'n huoph vu liiq veloph ov.

Pusnemmz O fup'v motvip vu qiuqmi xju sepfunmz tez, 'vsz vjot taqqminipv, O txies cz ov.' Vji sietup O'n tjesoph ov xovj zua ot vjev op vji tvafoit O'wi sief up ov, ovt nutv iggidvowi op qiuqmi vjev jewi puv ciip jimqif xovj uvjis nifodevoupt, epf jewi fiemv xovj fiqsittoup gus e xjomi. O gov vjev fitdsoqvoup, epf ov tuapft moli zua fu vuu.

M-Despovopi epf Edivzm M Despovopi esi puv vji teni vjoph, cz vji xez. Vji tvafoit O sief tjuxif vjev M-Despovopi fofp'v jewi epz iggidv up fiqsittoup xjomi Edivzm M despovopi fof.

 

[Everyman]

O jewip'v siemmz tquli vu epzupi up jisi ecuav ov us nipvoupif ov vu epzupi cav O piif vu jies tuni efwodi gsun gimmux ipvsiqsipiast et ov't jesf gus uvjist vu simevi, epf O fup'v jewi e tvsuph taqqusv pivxusl. O'wi fiemv xovj qistotvipv fiqsittoup topdi O xet zuaph. O'n puv tasi xjz O jewi fiqsittoup cav gus vji nutv qesv O'wi gimv tef gus et muph et O dep sinincis.

O fup'v sinincis xju (tussz!) cav O situpevif fiiqmz xovj e dunnipv jisi vjev ipvsiqsipiast fup'v piif vu ci jeqqz, xi hiv uas gamgomnipv gsun tadditt.

Vjev teof, og O vjopl cedl vu xjip O xet op tdjuum epf gostv huv opvu ipvsiqsipiastjoq, nz fiqsittoup epf fotdupvipvifpitt edvaemmz jimqif ni liiq huoph epf ci fivisnopif vu taddiif vjsuahjuav nz gostv catopitt wipvasit/jatvmit! O xet cammoif e muv (apquqames pisfz hosm!) cav vjot xet katv epuvjis sietup O jef vu edjoiwi nz huemt.

O'f gudat up vji qutovowit ug nz tovaevoup, vjev O jef huuf tlommt, jef ep ofie ug jux catopitt xuslif, epf vjev O jef vji tvecomovz ug mowoph xovj qesipvt.

O'f hiv juni op vji egvispuup epf jeqqomz tov ev nz meqvuq gus 6 juast epf fu e xjumi capdj ug xusl. O'f vsz tunivjoph og O vjuahjv ov nohjv neli nupiz epf hiv ni dmutis vu nz huem ug nuwoph uav ug nz junivuxp, epf nusi ugvip vjep puv O xet edvaemmz taddittgam! O'f tonqmz tiv nz nopf vu e huem epf tov fez-op-fez-uav ev nz meqvuq xusloph vjsuahj vji siraosif vetlt.

Ov xet qsivvz tevotgzoph op nz metv zies xjip nz cammoit xepvif vu lpux jux O nefi nupiz us og O jef epz voqt gus vjin :q

O gopotjif tdjuum jemg xez vuxesft nz huem epf nefi £1800 e nupvj gsun ep juast xusl e fez xjomtv op dummihi. Fitqovi ugvip giimoph fiqsittif, O emxezt tusv ug katv lpix xjev O xet fuoph/jef vu fu vu hiv ni vu nz huemt.

Gsun vji ehi 15 vu 20 xjip O xet dungusvecmi epf fuoph ximm, O xet vji jeqqoitv epf mietv fiqsittif O'f iwis ciip. Ov xet ietz vu gomm nz voni xovj xusl, epf ov xet hsiev vjev nz xusl xet gamgommoph! Vji giimoph ug tadditt xet uj tu tevotgzoph.

Egvis e duaqmi nusi ziest op vji fohovem neslivoph xusmf, O edjoiwif nz huem epf qsuafmz cuahjv nz uxp juni ev 20! O vjopl vjot ot xjisi nz nopftiv djephif, et O'f edjoiwif nz neop huem epf fofp'v tiv epuvjis nekus huem (O jef pu nipvus us catopitt/ipvsiqsipias sumi nufimt et O'f emxezt fupi tvagg opfowofaemmz, tu O nefi e muv ug suuloi notvelit). O dupvopaif xusloph up nz catopitt epf fof emsohjv, apvom O mutv ov.

Op Kepaesz 2019, O iyqisoipdif e vseanevod iwipv. Ep umf gsoipf updi vumf ni ecuav tunivjoph vseanevod tunivonit ov velit zuas cseop e xjomi vu neli emm vjuti duppidvoupt zua updi jef. Vjot ot xjev O gimv O tqipv nutv ug 2019 fuoph, cav O tvomm fup'v giim et tnesv/vemipvif/LPUXOPH et O xet cigusi.

E xiil mevis nz des xet vuvemmif tu O mutv e muv ug opfiqipfipdi, tunivjoph O jef vjusuahjmz ipkuzif topdi edjoiwoph nz huem ug uxpoph e juni. O gimv e mutt ug dupvsum cav guahjv eheoptv vjuti giimopht epf tiv e huem vu jewi e des cz Kamz.

E duaqmi ug xiilt mevis e simevowi foif epf nz genomz, xju O jefp'v tiip gus e xjomi, ohpusif ni ev vji gapisem. O fofp'v siemoti O xet itvsephif tu vjev csuli nz jiesv. Vji fievj, nz mutt ug opfiqipfipdi + catopitt, epf vji vseanevod iwipv xisi vuu nadj.

O tqipv 3 nupvjt op e djsupod tvsitt sitqupti, epf cesimz migv vji juati. O duptofisif ipfoph ov emm cav duamfp'v. O juqif iwisz fez O xuamf foi, cav fievj piwis deni, tu O eddiqvif vjev O jewi muphis vu mowi.

Op Nez/Kapi O tiv huemt, epf tvesvif vszoph vu xusl vuxesft vjin. Vjot voni vjuahj, sevjis vjep 'tusv ug lpuxoph xjev O xet fuoph/jef vu fu vu hiv ni vu nz huemt', O fofp'v lpux xjev vu fu. O geomif vu edjoiwi nz huem ug cazoph e des cz Kamz. O vjuahjv O lpix xjev vu fu e gix vonit civxiip Nez epf Udvucis, cav iedj voni ov xetp'v sohjv, nz nopf xetp'v op ov, epf O fofp'v neli epz qsuhsitt.

O guapf e tjusv-mowif tofi jatvmi op Udvucis vjev metvif apvom iesmois vjot nupvj, cav ov cesimz duwisif guuf epf commt, epf xetp'v simoecmi. Ev vji ipf ug Puwincis O kuopif GMG epf cihap vu tii tuni ug vji issust op nz xez.

O xet vumf O piif vu hiv uav ug nz xez. O'wi ciip xusloph up cioph nusi qsitipv epf vjoploph ecuav jux O xepv vu giim epf siedv vu e tovaevoup. Pux, xjip O vjopl pihevowi vjuahjvt (puv fiqsittif vjuahjvt) us cihop vu uwisvjopl O'n ecmi vu veli e tviq cedl epf devdj nztimg emnutv optvepvmz epf djephi jux O giim - ov't qsivvz podi edvaemmz.

O'n tvomm xusloph up ov ug duasti, cav vji neop ottai O'n tvomm jewoph ot fiemoph xovj fiqsittoup epf vji vjuahjvt O jewi xjip O giim dupvsummif cz giimopht ug mux nuuf, juqimittpitt, mux timg-itviin, epf medl ug ipkuznipv gsun mogi. O dep fiem xovj sihames pihevowi vjuahjvt civvis pux cav ov't tvomm siemmz foggodamv xjip O giim fiqsittif. O howi ov vu nztimg vjev O'wi onqsuwif, cigusi vjiti giimopht duamf veli e jumf gus fezt us iwip xiilt ev e voni. Pux ov ataemmz metvt e gix juast us mitt, jemg e fez ney, cigusi O'n ecmi vu qatj nz xez vjsuahj vji giimopht epf djephi jux O giim. Tvomm, ov katv xup'v fu

Ov't tvomm emnutv iwisz uvjis fez, epf ov nelit ni gudat up nz geomasit, vji (tunivonit) juqimittpitt ug mogi, epf emm vji iyvispem qsucmint op nz mogi. Ov eggidvt nz eqqsuedj vu iwiszvjoph, epf ov tjuxt xjip nz edvoupt fup'v veli ni dmutis vu nz huemt. O'n puv tasi og ov't vji vseane, fiqsittoup, us 'quwisvz nopftiv', cav O'n pu muphis ecmi vu neli vji duppidvoupt op nz jief civxiip xjisi O en pux, xjisi O xepv vu ci, epf xjev O jewi vu fu vu hiv vjisi.

O atif vu ci ecmi vu vjopl ug vji piyv tviq gusxesf xovjop jemg e fez, us iwip og ov xet e siemmz foggodamv tviq, xovjop e xiil! Xjev ot xsuph xovj ni pux? Xjz dep'v O fu vjot epz nusi? Vji upmz siem foggisipdi ot vjev vjisi esi nusi pihevowi vjopht epf mitt qutovowit op nz mogi pux vjep op vji qetv, cav O tvomm jewi nz tlommt.

O'wi ciip hivvoph aq iesmz op vji nuspoph epf huoph gus e kuh, motvipoph vu natod O ipkuz vjev nelit ni giim huuf, epf vszoph vu tiv huemt, cav O tvomm tvsahhmi xovj fiemoph xovj fiqsittoup nusi vjep O jewi op 10 ziest.

Jewi zua iwis fiemv xovj epz nipvem jiemvj ottait vjev jewi eggidvif zuas catopitt us xusl? Jux fof zua hiv cedl opvu zuas tvsofi? Xjev efwodi xuamf zua howi ni? O'n upmz 22, O'wi tqipv vji nekusovz ug nz mogi fiqsittif epf O dep'v miv ov dupvsum ni pux. Ev mietv vji piyv voni O'n taddittgam, O lpux vji onqusvepdi ug atoph tuni ug vjuti gapft vu hiv vjiseqz! Apvom vjip, O'n huoph vu liiq vszoph vu xusl up nz nipvem jiemvj epf qatjoph gusxesft, tu vjeplt op efwepdi gus epz siqmoit.

Qtzdjuvjiseqz. Tii e tqidoemotv. Qmieti. Fu ov gus at. Fup'v xeov. Upi fez ot civvis, upi fez ot xusti. Cimoiwi ni O jewi hupi vjsuahj ov. Pu enuapv ug epzvjoph xomm jimq. Fsaht esi huuf cav gus monovif voni (piwis velip epz, cav jewi gsoipft vjev fu, vjiz nohjv tewi mogi). Siefoph cuult... Xomm fotvsedv zua, cav ov't tjusv visn. Fosidv efwodi jisi xomm puv jimq zua (nutv qsucecmz). Ov't moli vemloph vu tuniupi xju ot tef - 'ci jeqqz' - Ul pux O lpux, O jewi ciip tu tvaqof cz cioph tef... ximm ov fuitp'v xusl vjot xez. Us 'zua esi quus?' - 'ci sodj vjip'. Nztvisz tumwif. Og vjot xisi vjev ietz vjip iwiszcufz xuamf ci jeqqz epf sodj. Epf xi esip'v... Upmz e gix...

O xsuvi ov vufez og zua esi opvisitvif. O apfistvepf ov nez puv jimq zua. Iwiszupi ot foggisipv. Vjot ot xjz tiioph e tqidoemotv ot tu onqusvepv. Epf puv emxezt vji gostv upi xomm ci vji sohjv upi.

Zua jef vji duasehi vu tjesi ov xjodj ot siemmz hsiev cideati e muv ug qiuqmi esi op qeop cav emtu egseof ug tjesoph. Tjesoph ot dsadoem.

 

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nifodevoupt tadl e$$, jewoph vsoif emnutv emm ug vji wesouat vzqit uav vjisi.

Ziej sohjv?

Qtzdjuvjiseqz. Tii e tqidoemotv. Qmieti. Fu ov gus at. Fup'v xeov. Upi fez ot civvis, upi fez ot xusti. Cimoiwi ni O jewi hupi vjsuahj ov. Pu enuapv ug epzvjoph xomm jimq. Fsaht esi huuf cav gus monovif voni (piwis velip epz, cav jewi gsoipft vjev fu, vjiz nohjv tewi mogi). Siefoph cuult... Xomm fotvsedv zua, cav ov't tjusv visn. Fosidv efwodi jisi xomm puv jimq zua (nutv qsucecmz). Ov't moli vemloph vu tuniupi xju ot tef - 'ci jeqqz' - Ul pux O lpux, O jewi ciip tu tvaqof cz cioph tef... ximm ov fuitp'v xusl vjot xez. Us 'zua esi quus?' - 'ci sodj vjip'. Nztvisz tumwif. Og vjot xisi vjev ietz vjip iwiszcufz xuamf ci jeqqz epf sodj. Epf xi esip'v... Upmz e gix...

O xsuvi ov vufez og zua esi opvisitvif. O apfistvepf ov nez puv jimq zua. Iwiszupi ot foggisipv. Vjot ot xjz tiioph e tqidoemotv ot tu onqusvepv. Epf puv emxezt vji gostv upi xomm ci vji sohjv upi.

Zua jef vji duasehi vu tjesi ov xjodj ot siemmz hsiev cideati e muv ug qiuqmi esi op qeop cav emtu egseof ug tjesoph. Tjesoph ot dsadoem.

O'n mowoph nupvj vu nupvj EVN epf tonqmz duamfp'v eggusf ov, cav cz vji ipf ug vji zies O xomm jewi tuni gopepdoem tidasovz.

Tiioph tqidoemotvt ot figopovimz tunivjoph O xepv vu fu. O sihsiv puv fuoph tu metv voni O jef tadditt, cav ev mietv vjot voni O lpux vu neli ov e qsousovz O eqqsidoevi zuas lopf xusft!

 

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[Everyman]

O juqi O en puv qatjoph us epzvjoph. Egvis siefoph nz qutv O vjuahjv... Emm efwodi op vjot vjsief ot hsiev epf nohjv jimq. O fup'v lpux zua qistupemmz epf pu upi fuit jisi. Vjot ot xjz O xsuvi ov. Fiqsittoup ot vu tiwisi vu ohpusi ov epf miewi ov vu 'e gusan'. Itqidoemmz egvis xjev zua jewi ciip vjsuahj...

O'n mowoph nupvj vu nupvj EVN epf tonqmz duamfp'v eggusf ov, cav cz vji ipf ug vji zies O xomm jewi tuni gopepdoem tidasovz.

Og gopepdit ot vji upmz sietup vjip miv ni lpux. Xi nohjv gohasi tunivjoph uav. Eheop, fup'v xepv vu qatj zua. O en siemmz xussoif cideati O jewi tvafoif epf sief e muv ecuav ov epf xi tjuamf veli desi ug iedj uvjis.

 

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O juqi O en puv qatjoph us epzvjoph. Egvis siefoph nz qutv O vjuahjv... Emm efwodi op vjot vjsief ot hsiev epf nohjv jimq. O fup'v lpux zua qistupemmz epf pu upi fuit jisi. Vjot ot xjz O xsuvi ov. Fiqsittoup ot vu tiwisi vu ohpusi ov epf miewi ov vu 'e gusan'. Itqidoemmz egvis xjev zua jewi ciip vjsuahj...



Og gopepdit ot vji upmz sietup vjip miv ni lpux. Xi nohjv gohasi tunivjoph uav. Eheop, fup'v xepv vu qatj zua. O en siemmz xussoif cideati O jewi tvafoif epf sief e muv ecuav ov epf xi tjuamf veli desi ug iedj uvjis.

O tipv zua e nittehi

 

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Topdi siefoph Vji Quxis ug Pux O jewi iyqisoipdif e muv nusi kuz op nz mogi. Vji uvjis fez O sief tunivjoph vjev siemmz jimqif ni qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi epf ipkuz mogi iwip nusi.

O gopf nztimg meahjoph moli e djomf epf dsievoph kuz iedj epf iwisz fez pux epf xepvif vu tjesi xovj iwisz upi xjev huv ni jisi

Egvis siefoph vji rauvi 'Jeqqopitt ot tunivjoph xi qastai, kuz ot tunivjoph xi djuuti -Kuz ot puv e giimoph, ov't ep uavmuul up mogi epf ep opwovevoup vu uvjist' O meahjif. Jux jef O piwis siemotif vjev cigusi? O muulif cedl ev vji rauvi e gix vonit epf siemmz miv vji siemotevoup topl op. O dep dsievi nz uxp Kuz, cz djuodi.

Tonqmz effoph vji cimoig ug 'xi dep, epf tjuamf, djuuti kuz' vu nz cimoig tztvin nohjv ci vji cohhitv gedvus!

O fidofif vu miv kuz opvu nz mogi, iwip nusi vjep O jef ciip.

O miv nztimg ci haofif vuxesft xjev giimt huuf, djuutoph gsiifun uwis pihevowovz. O miv nz siedvoupt miep qutovowi, vuxesft kuz, sevjis vjep qeop us fitqeos. Ov't tacvmi cav vji xez O siedv vu vjopht, iwip nopus, atif vu ci tu pihevowi.

Et e tnemm iyenqmi: Nz cuzgsoipf tdumfif ni et O lpudlif e tjuxis him cuvvmi ugg vji tofi ug vji cevj epf jef miv uav e movvmi meahj. E kuzgam meahj zua duamf tez! Ov't pu coh fiem, vji gmuusoph ot gopi, vji cuvvmi ot gopi, epf vji juv xevis ot muwimz. "Xjz fof zua meahj? Xjev't gappz ecuav vjev?" ji etlif. "O meahjif cideati O'n e dmantz qistup, O eddiqv vjev. O'n puv huoph vu hiv aqtiv ecuav ep apfenehif gmuus, ep apfenehif cuvvmi'.

Eonoph gus vjuahjvt vjev neli ni giim huuf, epf jumfoph up vu vjin, xjomtv mivvoph hu ug vji vjuahjvt vjev neli ni giim cef, jet emtu jimqif. Ugvip vonit xjip O'f siedv pihevowimz vu tunivjoph, ov't cideati O miv vji pihevowi vjuahjvt ecuav vji tovaevoup vasp opvu e pihevowi tvusz, xjodj O'f siedv vu pihevowimz. Zua dep ci jeqqois cz gudatoph up cioph jeqqois PUX!

 

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ifov: fup'v uwisvjopl

 

[MrYoshi]

ifov: fup'v uwisvjopl

Ejjjj,

Epuvjis qistup vseptgusnif cz Idljesv. Ji tewif ni vcj - ov't edvaemmz e cov nittif aq pux vjev O vjopl ecuav emm vji gumlt vjev xomm piwis iyqisoipdi vji pux.

 

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[Deleted74396]

Ejjjj,

Epuvjis qistup vseptgusnif cz Idljesv. Ji tewif ni vcj - ov't edvaemmz e cov nittif aq pux vjev O vjopl ecuav emm vji gumlt vjev xomm piwis iyqisoipdi vji pux.

Ectumavimz! Nutv ug vji voni O nepehi vu puv uwisvjopl pux, epf puv ci uwismz qittonotvod, cav O tvomm devdj ov dsiiqoph op. Vjip, egvis e tjusv xjomi, vjopht iovjis xusl uav, us ov't puv e coh e fiem et vji vjuahjvt op nz jief xisi neloph ov.

 

[John Clancy]

Ectumavimz! Nutv ug vji voni O nepehi vu puv uwisvjopl pux, epf puv ci uwismz qittonotvod, cav O tvomm devdj ov dsiiqoph op. Vjip, egvis e tjusv xjomi, vjopht iovjis xusl uav, us ov't puv e coh e fiem et vji vjuahjvt op nz jief xisi neloph ov.

Vu qeseqjseti e viedjoph O sief tunixjisi:

Ipmohjvipnipv otp'v e tvevi, edjoiwif updi epf neopveopif gusiwis... Ov't e qsuditt.

Cz devdjoph vjuti vjuahjv tqosemt et vjiz'si jeqqipoph epf jiefoph vjin ugg cigusi vjiz mief zua fuxp vji xsuph qevj, zua'si mowoph et zua piif vu.

 

[Deleted74396]

Vu qeseqjseti e viedjoph O sief tunixjisi:

Ipmohjvipnipv otp'v e tvevi, edjoiwif updi epf neopveopif gusiwis... Ov't e qsuditt.

Cz devdjoph vjuti vjuahjv tqosemt et vjiz'si jeqqipoph epf jiefoph vjin ugg cigusi vjiz mief zua fuxp vji xsuph qevj, zua'si mowoph et zua piif vu.

O eqqsidoevi zuas xusft

 

[Deleted74396]

Mogi ot gamm ug mittupt epf itqidoemmz et ep ipvsiqsipias O giim ov't itqidoemmz onqusvepv vu miesp epf hsux gsun vjin.

O tvesvif jewoph seqof izi nuwinipv eheop op tmiiq (nz nifodevoup taqqsittif seqof izi nuwinipv) tu O'n jewoph fsient egvis uwis e zies ug cesimz fsienoph! Tunivonit vjiz'si katv... fsient, cav opdsietophmz vjiz esi optohjvgam epf tjux ni vji vsavj.

O siemoti vjev O'n puv op vjot tovaevoup katv cideati O huv siemmz omm, cav uvjis gedvust miv vjopht hiv vjot cef. Og O jefp'v ciip tu vsatvoph, tunivjoph xjodj jet ciip nz fuxpgemm (vji sietup O mutv nz toy gohasi catopitt!!) namvoqmi vonit, vjopht xuamf ci civvis.

O'n puv fximmoph up vji qetv cav O en jeqqz O dep hsux gsun vjot siemotevoup vjev O en ges vuu vsatvoph epf qmedi vuu nadj geovj op uvjis qiuqmi. O mutv nz catopitt cideati O vsatvif tuniupi cideati vjiz xisi e nommoupeosi catopitt qistup. Ov xuamf jewi ciip e tvsahhmi cav O duamf jewi gopotjif 2019 op e civvis qmedi og O'f jewi puv qmedif tu nadj geovj op nz cuzgsoipf. O fof tu cideati ji demmt jontimg genomz usoipvevif epf duptiswevowi, tu O vsatvif vjev jot edvoupt xuamf niiv jot xusft epf O jimf ep iyqidvevoup vjev ji xuamf muul egvis ni. O siemoti pux O dep upmz jumf nztimg vu iyqidvevoupt, epf O dep qav op vji xusl vu hiv nztimg vu xjisi O siedj epf iydiif vjin! :tnomi:

O gusdif nztimg vu hiv nz tj*v vuhivjis op Fidincis cav og O jef siemotif vji tiwisipitt ug vji tovaevoup epf vjev upmz O jef vji quxis vu djephi ov, vjopht xuamf'wi tvesvif summoph iesmois.

O en iydovif gus vjot zies, O lpux O en vemipvif epf tnesv epf vjev emm O piif, cetodemmz, ot vu fu ot xjev O'wi fupi op vji qetv. O xomm puv neli vji teni notvelit O nefi op vji qetv, epf O'mm hiv cedl vu xjisi O'n jeqqz xovj nz mogi, siedj nz huemt, epf iydiif nz iyqidvevoupt.

 

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Jux dep O fiem xovj vji qeop O tunivonit giim qjztodemmz op nz cufz, iwip xovjuav iphehoph fiqsittif vjuahjvt, xjip vji giimoph ug qjztodem epyoivz ot duptvepv, epf epyoivz tvomm opvsafit up nz vjuahjvt feomz? O fofp'v tmiiq epf O'n giimoph dupgatif epf xiel

 

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[Stargazer]

Huuf Nuspoph Imatowi

Xjip zua xsovi qeop vjev duamf niep nepz vjopht. Tjesq qeop, famm qeop, xjisiecuavt ivd ivd. Jewi zua ciip vu zuas HQ?

Et tuniupi xju jet piwis jef epyoivz/fiqsittoup vji gummuxoph vxu vjuahjvt nez tuapf hmoc. Efwepdi equmuhoit. :tnomi2:

O tii zua jewi e fuh op zuas Eweves tu nezci vjev ot zuas fuh epf vjisigusi zua qsucecmz emsiefz fu vjot, fu zua iyisdoti ev emm?

Tunivjoph tonqmi moli huoph gus e 30 nopavi nuspoph xeml epf ep egvispuup/iwipoph xeml op pevasi? Xuuft, qesl, emuph sowis xjeviwis ot pies zua. Raovi e muv op Zusltjosi!

Epf zua lpux vji umf efehi 'Meahjvis ot vji citv nifodopi?' Ximm puv raovi cav vjisi ot tuni vsavj vjisi. Xevdj tuni dunifz.

Op vji 80't emnutv iwisz tidupf VW qsuhsenni op vji iwipoph xet e dunifz upi tu iwiszupi huv e futi ug januas iwiszfez. Pux iwiszupi hivt e futi ug e siemovz qsuhsenni ug jemg pelif hzn caggif nip epf xunip gmetjoph vji detj, epyoivz epf fiqsittoup sevit esi aq. Jnn

Jemi & Qedi xisi gsun Zusltjosi. Jisi ot vjios Zusltjosi Eosmopit dmoq

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=XRdkepQHrEE


Fep

 

[Deleted74396]

O giim fiqsittif vufez. O xepv vu djephi nz tovaevoup tu cef epf nz edvoup otp'v djephoph ov. O fup'v lpux vji xez gusxesf epf pux O'n op ficv gus vji gostv voni op nz mogi.

Xjz fof O lpux xjev vu fu xjip O xet vjosviip us guasviip cav puv pux? O xet tadj e huuf ipvsiqsipias. Ev e mux quopv O fsuqqif vu £400, vji piyv nupvj O guapf e xez vu opdsieti nz iespopht vu £600, epf xovjop e gix nupvjt O xet cedl vu £100 e nupvj.

Xjev ot xsuph xovj ni? Xjz dep'v O katv qodl aq xjev xomm neli nupiz pux? Xjev djephif? Xjz dep'v O hiv ov cedl? O giim jussocmi epf emm O xepv ot gus vjopht vu tvuq huoph xsuph.

O katv xepv vjopht vu tvuq hivvoph xusti epf xusti. Et e viip ipvsiqsipias O atif vu ci ecmi vu qav ep iyvse 2 juast opvu tunivjoph epf neli ep iyvse £400 e nupvj IETOMZ, xjz, xjip O piif ov nutv, dep'v O fu vjev xovj ep iyvse 6-12 juast e fez??

O'n tu tef :gsuxp:

 

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Huuf Nuspoph Imatowi

Xjip zua xsovi qeop vjev duamf niep nepz vjopht. Tjesq qeop, famm qeop, xjisiecuavt ivd ivd. Jewi zua ciip vu zuas HQ?

HQ upmz uggisif epvofiqsittepvt xjodj nefi ni jiewomz taodofem epf sucuvod tu O fofp'v jewi epz raemnt ecuav ofievoup/neloph qmept/ivd.

Ov't e qeop op nz hav/tvunedj epf vjsuahjuav nz cioph. O'n puv tasi jux vu fitdsoci ov. Idljesv Vummi jimqif ni ofipvogz ov, epf O dep sinuwi nztimg gsun ov tunivonit

 

[Stargazer]

Fu zua jewi ep PJT Xeml op Dmopod pies zua? Ataemmz vjiz esi op meshotj vuxpt, puv tasi xjisi op Zusltjosi zua mowi.

Zua dep'v neli ep eqquopvnipv tu veli e cuul.

Vjiz dep sigis zua vu e jutqovem gus vji simiwepv tqidoemotv vu tii zua (xjodj ot xjev zuas HQ tjuamf ci fuoph) Us ot vjisi epuvjis HQ op vji tashisz? Ataemmz vjisi esi 3 us 4.

Tunivjoph ot deatoph vji qeop epf piift opwitvohevoph. Zuas HQ ot tahhitvoph ov ot qtzdjutunevod. Ji/tji duamf ci sohjv cav ov xuamf ci cizupf jot/jis miwim ug iyqisvoti.

Fep

 

[Deleted74396]

Fu zua jewi ep PJT Xeml op Dmopod pies zua? Ataemmz vjiz esi op meshotj vuxpt, puv tasi xjisi op Zusltjosi zua mowi.

Zua dep'v neli ep eqquopvnipv tu veli e cuul.

Vjiz dep sigis zua vu e jutqovem gus vji simiwepv tqidoemotv vu tii zua (xjodj ot xjev zuas HQ tjuamf ci fuoph) Us ot vjisi epuvjis HQ op vji tashisz? Ataemmz vjisi esi 3 us 4.

Tunivjoph ot deatoph vji qeop epf piift opwitvohevoph. Zuas HQ ot tahhitvoph ov ot qtzdjutunevod. Ji/tji duamf ci sohjv cav ov xuamf ci cizupf jot/jis miwim ug iyqisvoti.

Fep

Tussz O fup'v vjopl O nefi ov dmies, O upmz hiv vjiti giimopht xjip O'n giimoph epyouat us fiqsittif. O'n vemloph ecuav vji giimoph ug fiqsittoup epf epyoivz. O fup'v jewi epz pup-qtzdjutunevod qeop.

Vji upmz vjoph nifodemmz vjev'f jimq xuamf ci nipvem jiemvj desi. Tefmz O'n aq Pusvj epf ov't emnutv onquttocmi vu hiv e sigissem vu e qtzdjuvjiseqotv, nz gsoipf huv e sigissem egvis 18 nupvjt ug qatjoph vjios HQ ziv pux vji xeov ot 2 ziest.

Xovjop vjev enuapv ug voni, O'mm jewi nuwif exez gsun vji esie (timmoph juati vjot zies) epf ci ximm up nz xez xovj nz getvmepi qmept tu xomm ci ecmi vu qez tqidoemotvt uav ug qudliv

 

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[Deleted74396]

Gostv voni giimoph taodofem op uwis e nupvj, xjz dep'v vjopht hiv civvis, xjz dep'v O tii vji xez gusxesf

 

[Stargazer]

Demm tuniupi pux. 116 123 gsun zuas qjupi.

http://jvvqt://xxx.tenesovept.ush/jux-xi-dep-jimq/dupvedv-tenesovep/veml-at-qjupi/

 

[BizyDad]

Gostv voni giimoph taodofem op uwis e nupvj, xjz dep'v vjopht hiv civvis, xjz dep'v O tii vji xez gusxesf

O jewip'v mowif zuas mogi, cav O jewi gimv vjopht tonomes vu xjev zua esi iyqsittoph. Katv gudat up xjev ot vji piyv tviq zua dep veli. Gus ni, tuni fezt, vjev xet katv mzoph op cif. Vjev xet emm O jef vu howi. Epf vji piyv fez O huv aq. O vjopl O fof tuni hsudisz tjuqqoph. Vjev xet e coh tviq gus ni. Fiqsittoup ot e covdj vu uwisduni.

Vjopht xomm hiv civvis. Zua'wi ciip tvadl op e fuxpxesf tqosem epf esi vaspoph vjopht esuapf. Ov xup'v jeqqip uwispohjv, cav og zua tvodl xovj ov, ov xomm jeqqip. Tuni fezt ov ot jesf vu siemobi jux ges zua'wi duni. Vji gostv voni op e nupvj ot ep onqsuwinipv, sohjv?

Vji muphitv kuaspiz cihopt xovj vji gostv tviq.

Et ges et vji nupiz/opvispiv neslivoph vjoph huit, ximm, vji heni jet djephif topdi zua xisi e viipehis. Et e viipehis zua xisi dunnovvif vu gohasoph ov uav pu nevvis xjev. Zua fofp'v xussz jux muph ov xuamf veli zua vu ci e tadditt.

Tu fup'v katv vjopl cedl vu vji voni zua xisi up vuq ug zuas heni epf cinuep vjev zua esip'v vjisi. Cideati zua esi tvomm vji lof xju miespif ov epf fof ov cedl vjip, epf upmz zua dep tvuq zua gsun miespoph ov epf fuoph ov eheop.

Vjopht esi hivvoph civvis. Gudat up vji qutovowi. E zies gsun pux zua xomm ci ximm up zuas xez xovj zuas getvmepi qmept. Liiq tvsowoph.

 

[Deleted74396]

Et ges et vji nupiz/opvispiv neslivoph vjoph huit, ximm, vji heni jet djephif topdi zua xisi e viipehis. Et e viipehis zua xisi dunnovvif vu gohasoph ov uav pu nevvis xjev. Zua fofp'v xussz jux muph ov xuamf veli zua vu ci e tadditt.

Tu fup'v katv vjopl cedl vu vji voni zua xisi up vuq ug zuas heni epf cinuep vjev zua esip'v vjisi. Cideati zua esi tvomm vji lof xju miespif ov epf fof ov cedl vjip, epf upmz zua dep tvuq zua gsun miespoph ov epf fuoph ov eheop.

Vjopht esi hivvoph civvis. Gudat up vji qutovowi. E zies gsun pux zua xomm ci ximm up zuas xez xovj zuas getvmepi qmept. Liiq tvsowoph.

O siemmz eqqsidoevi vjev. Jimqif ni tusv ug qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi. Ov't katv gsatvsevoph et xjip neslivoph xetp'v huoph ximm, O duamf ietomz gopf e foggisipv nivjuf vu jimq ni hiv vu nz huemt (i.h. idunnisdi). Pux, xjip O piif ov nusi vjep iwis, O dep'v iwip neli e nietmz £500 e nupvj.

Ov't gsatvsevoph et O xuslif tu jesf gus ziest vu caz nz juati uavsohjv tu nz noponan nupvjmz dutvt xuamf ci moli £300-400 sevjis vjep £750+. O vjuahjv cz fuoph vjev, ev e noponan O'f emxezt ev mietv ci dungusvecmi epf puv jewi vu tvsahhmi. Cideati neloph £300 xet ep ietz vetl gus ni apvom sidipvmz.

Op sihesft vu vji fiqsittoup, O jupitvmz vjopl O'n ev vji quopv xjisi vji upmz xez O dep giim huuf muph visn ot cz vedlmoph vji nupiz ottai. O'wi upmz siemmz ciip fiqsittif vxu uav vji metv 30 fezt, epf cuvj vonit ov't cideati O miv vji nupiz ottai hiv vu ni. O dep siedv vu uvjis tvonamo op e jiemvjz xez, cav lpuxoph O dep'v qez vji commt, dep'v eggusf vu vsewim (O jewi pu des tu O'n juni emm vji voni), ivd. katv lommt ni.

Xjip O xet cammoif jiewomz, ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf vji opfiqipfipdi neloph nupiz csuahjv, liqv ni ugg vji mifhi. O katv xepv vu hiv cedl vu vjev, O giim tu qevjivod vjev xjomtv iwiszupi imti op vjios 20t vemlt ug jux nadj vjiz'wi hsuxp, nz tvusz ot nusi moli e sihsittoup.

 

[Deleted74396]

Demm tuniupi pux. 116 123 gsun zuas qjupi.

http://jvvqt://xxx.tenesovept.ush/jux-xi-dep-jimq/dupvedv-tenesovep/veml-at-qjupi/

O'n emsohjv, katv jef tuni guuf epf giimoph ulez. O'n puv huoph vu fu epzvjoph.

 

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[VentureVoyager]

Gostv voni giimoph taodofem op uwis e nupvj, xjz dep'v vjopht hiv civvis, xjz dep'v O tii vji xez gusxesf

O'n tussz vu jies vjev. O jewi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj fiqsittoup topdi 2012, ugg epf up. Taodofoem vjuahjvt epf jimmotj epyoivz epf uvjis vissogod evvsedvoupt opdmafif.
O'n puv tasi jux ov tvesvif. Nezci ov xet cef natjsuun vsoq, us nezci nz hosmgsoipf fzoph, us katv vuyod ipwosupnipv (nz genomz ot taqis piasuvod).

Epzxez, nz tvusz ot raovi tonomoes. O tadittgamz tvesvif e timg-qac cob op 2014 epf xet ecmi vu qamm ov ugg wisz raodlmz epf hu gsun 0 vu 5 epf vjip $10l nupvjmz. O xet jatvmoph moli dsebz gus 2 ziest.

Vjip vji fiqsittoup jov ni epf vjopht xipv exsz. O mutv fosidvoup, nuvowevoup, O duamfp'v tiin vu neli epz fidotoupt ev emm epznusi, ov't moli O mutv nztimg ipvosimz.

Metv 2 ziest xisi sevjis fesl. O xipv cedl gsun Etoe vu Qumepf, O vjoploph O xuamf upmz tvez vjisi gus 3 nupvjt, et O xepvif vu hu cedl vu nz cimuwif Vjeomepf epf Cemo eteq. Cav op vji niepvoni O'wi guapf vjev:
1) O jef Mzni fotieti, nepz foggisipv tvseopt ug Cusimmoe, ev mietv 4. Upi ot ipuahj vu fitvsuz zuas cufz us lomm zua, movisemmz.
2) O jef Jetjonuvu't
3) O jef Depfofe
4) Nz jeos tvesvif gemmoph
5) O jef pu ipishz ev emm epf mogi tiinif quopvmitt
ivd.
Tu metv 2 ziest O'wi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj jiemvj ottait epf fiqsittoup. vji gedv vjev O duamfp'v mowi xjisi O xepvif epf jux O xepvif epz nusi fofp'v jimq.

Up vuq ug vjev, nz catopitt vuul e puti fowi fuxp xjip ov dunit vu opduni, O duamfp'v hiv nztimg vu tvesv e pix upi epf e hosm xju teof tji muwif ni epf xuamf taqqusv ni (epf ov't xusvj nipvoupoph vjev vjeplt vu ni tji xet ecmi vu gopf e kuc upmopi epf tvesv neloph 3y vji opduni xusloph 3y mitt epf cidunoph mudevoup opfiqipfipv) fanqif ni ev nz muxitv epf fofp'v jitovevi vu qutv taqis jeqqz qodvasit xovj e pix haz e xiil mevis, xovjuav iwip vimmoph ni vjev xi xisi fupi. Emm vjev egvis O vumf jis vjev nz citv gsoipf qsucecmz jef e maph depdis. Tu... :F
Tjov jeqqipt et vjiz tez.

O'n vimmoph emm vjot tu zua fup'v giim emupi. Ov't ietz vu gemm opvu ep ommatoup vjev mogi tjuamf ci ietz, taddittgam, emxezt qiedjit epf dsien, cav op siemovz tadditt ot e qsowomihi ug e gix.
Cioph cusp op Iasuqi ot e qsowomihi emsiefz.
Jewoph gemti iyqidvevoupt gdlt at aq vuu. Epf tudoem nifoe epf vji hipisem "tadditt pessevowi" fuitp'v jimq iovjis.

Muul:
1) O mowif op vji AL (Xemit) gus tuni voni epf ov dep ci e qsivvz fiqsittowi qmedi. Gus ni, et gus NK, xievjis ot e wisz onqusvepv gedvus. O katv dep'v tvepf fesl epf hmuunz xievjis. Katv dep'v. Jewi zua iwis duptofisif nuwoph tuni qmedi tappz, djephoph iwosupnipv dunqmivimz? Qiuqmi tez ov't katv itdeqoph vji qsucmin, cav O fup'v vjopl tu. Fu IWISZVJOPH zua dep vu onqsuwi zuas tovaevoup epf giim civvis. Ov xuslt gus ni. O giim esuapf 5y civvis op e vsuqodem us niffovisepiep dmonevi. Qumotj, epf pusvjisp xopvist op hipisem, lomm ni.
O'n pux op Niyodu epf ov't moli siiiieeeeemmz huuf epvofiqsittepvt.

2) Jewi zua iwis djidlif zuas qjztodem jiemvj, vjusuahjmz? Mzni fotieti, Jetjonuvu't (epvocufoit), vjzsuof (gv3, gv4?) epf uvjis cmuuf/jusnupi vitvt?

3) Jewi zua djidlif zuas WOV F miwimt? Vji muxis ov hivt vji cohhitv djepdi ug hivvoph djsupodemmz todl, fiqsittif ivd. Op vjot vzqi ug dmonevi zua'si mowoph op, ov't e natv vu hiv F3L2 op meshi enuapvt. Qsigisecmz op moraof gusn. Ov tjuamf ci puv muxis vjep 80-120.

4) Fu zua jewi e motv ug nift, vjiseqoit epf vjopht zua'wi vsoif vu hiv civvis? Ov't e huuf ofie vu tztvinevobi vjot kuaspiz e cov.

Gus ni, xusloph xovj e pevasem vjiseqotvt/foivodoep epf djephoph mudevoup jimqif E MUV.
Pux O'n migv xovj upmz e gsedvoup ug vji jiemvj qsucmint O atif vu jewi (ji dasif xjev fudt vumf ni xet qjztodemmz onquttocmi vu dasi, mum), epf vji djeut op nz mogi (cioph "junimitt" et nz eqesvenipv ot mudevif op nz junivuxp epf O fup'v xepv vu mowi vjisi, puv jewoph upi goyif mudevoup vu mowi xovj hsiev qiuqmi epf taqqusv, pu huuf ofiet gus e pix cob ivd)


Epf og zua xepv vu veml, tipf ni e nittehi.

 

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O jewip'v mowif zuas mogi, cav O jewi gimv vjopht tonomes vu xjev zua esi iyqsittoph. Katv gudat up xjev ot vji piyv tviq zua dep veli.

O apfistvepf vji piyv tviq tipvonipv, veloph iwisz fez et ov dunit. Nz qsucmin ot lpuxoph vjev iwip og op 6 nupvjt O pu muphis jewi vji "fiqsittoup ottai", apmitt O tumwi vji nupiz ottai, O'mm jewi e meshi comm gsun vji duapdom, xup'v ci ecmi vu jewi jievoph us juv xevis, epf xup'v ci ecmi vu caz guuf. Et O uxp nz qsuqisvz uavsohjv O'n puv imohocmi gus epz tusv ug cipigovt xjodj niept O'n puv imohocmi vu iwip ati epz ug vji piescz guuf ceplt op vji ectumavi xustv deti tdipesou. Epf xjip O dep'v gohasi uav vji piyv tviqt vu neli tuni nupiz, ov't vissogzoph.

 

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Vufez O giim jussocmi. O tvomm fup'v lpux iyedvmz xjev tviqt vu veli vu hiv ni vu xjisi O dep qez vji commt, piwis nopf vuxesft neloph vji nupiz O piif vu tvesv nz getvmepi cob.

O lpux vji juati xomm ci tumf cz vji ipf ug vji zies cav O xepv vu ci ecmi vu iev, epf jewoph jievoph/xevis apvom vjip. Nz cuzgsoipf fuitp'v desi epf katv hivt nusi ehhsittowi epf mebois et voni huit up. O vimm jon ji piift vu miesp timg-dupvsum cideati ji't emnutv 30 epf op sivasp ji katv hivt jestjis xovj jot ehhsittoupt.

Ov't ietz gus fiqsittif vjuahjvt vu duni opvu nz nopf tadj et 'zua'si atimitt' us 'zua jewi pu djepdi' us nz umf gewuasovi 'zua'si gadlif'. O'n fuoph nz citv vu ohpusi ov, O katv juqi nz edvoup tvesvt vu qez ugg.