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Do you guys think we were programmed to be average on purpose?

I just listened to Andy Frisella's podcast episode with Tim Grover and Andy said something that really stuck with me. He said something along the lines of: "You guys don't get it. You are way more capable than what you think you are. Listen. They want you to suck. They need you to suck. They want you to stay that way so you'll give your control away and be dependent on the government. That way the government will continue printing more money, that enables them to create more slaves inside the system and stay in control of the population.

It is very sad to talk about it in this way...

What do you think?

(Even the whole Corona thing that's been going on for almost two years. There are many similarities to it with the Flu that happened way back in the 19th century. When masks became mandated, most of the people who died during the Flu was BECAUSE of the masks(I've heard a doctor speak who's experienced speak on the matter, and if I remember correctly he said the majority of deaths that were associated with the Flu happened because of moisture inside the masks, which allowed bacteria to infest itself inside the masks and made it easy for them to attack the victim's immune system when the mask was worn.) (Edit: Stupid autocorrection in a foreign language!)
 
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What do you think?

I agree. That's why I wrote 3 books on how to escape this system. ;)

You guys don't understand it. You are way more capable than what you think you are. Listen. They want you to suck. They need you to suck. They want you to stay that way so you'll give your control away and be dependent on the government. The government will continue printing money and that enables them to create more slaves within the system.

Totally agree. Didn't know Andy was so "red pilled".
 
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Do you guys think we were programmed to be average on purpose?

I just listened to a Andy Frisella's podcast episode with Tim Grover and Andy said something that really stuck with me. He said something along the lines of: "You guys don't understand it. You are way more capable than what you think you are. Listen. They want you to suck. They need you to suck. They want you to stay that way so you'll give your control away and be dependent on the government. The government will continue printing money and that enables them to create more slaves within the system.

It is very sad to talk about it in this way...

What do you think?

(Even the whole Corona thing that's been going on for almost two years. There are many similarities to it with the Flu that happened way back in the 19th century. When masks became mandated, most of the people who died during the Flu was BECAUSE of the masks(I've heard a doctor speak on the matter, and if I remember correctly the deaths happened because of moisture inside the mask, which allowed bacteria to infest itself inside the mask and made it easy for them to attack the victim's immune system when worn.)
In Europe and in the USA it's not "programmed" but controlled mostly through compulsory education, public education and natonalism which is based on false superiority to our global neighbors. We have freedoms but not enough to realize our full inalienable right to happiness. In China people are programmed but I believe they want freedom and we can give it to them. It;s time for a world-wide revolution.
 
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In Europe and in the USA it's not "programmed" but controlled mostly through compulsory education, public education and natonalism which is based on false superiority to our global neighbors. We have freedoms but not enough to realize our full inalienable right to happiness. In China people are programmed but I believe they want freedom and we can give it to them. It;s time for a world-wide revolution.
History had lots of examples showing that freedom is not what other people can give. Everyone has to fight for their own freedom. Otherwise, history has shown that it won't last long.

Nationalism is also not based on false superiority but is rather an ideology that every people has the right to have their own country, speak their own language and follow their own traditions. Lots of nationalistic movements were created to fight for freedom and to escape the slavery induced by occupants. However, national socialism is a problem just like any other form of socialism.

@topic: In my opinion as a member of a German political party, governments don't really have to control people. Lots of governments in first world countries create opportunities to get a more or less comfortable life. However, once people get that comfort, they control themselves, their friends and family members on their own. People are afraid to lose a secure job. People are afraid to start a business. People are afraid to invest money and time in themselves. Let your environment influence you and since 99% of people do poorly in life, chances are high that they influence you.
 

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Yes, and not just the government, but also the largest employers. I know our goal is business success like that, but there are definitely companies that have surpassed the business stage and are now something of a societal power.
F*ck yes, especially some internet companies like FB and Google. If you say something on FB that doesn't go with their agenda, they say your post goes against their guidelines. WHAT guidelines are we talking about? Isn't that what FB was a couple years ago? A place of free speech and to make friends? It's bullshit. And just a couple months back that was going on with the Palestina thing, people's opinions were deleted to go with the good will of FB...

I actually had a business idea to create the next FB so people can say whatever they wanna say without having an oligarchy on their backs. I'm sick and tired of this. Even Instagram is not the same what it used to be 5 years ago. Who's with me on that one?

I had one post where it got almost 300k likes and got shadow banned and lost 95% of my reach because apparently I was conversating and replying to the comments too much. Isn't social media made to be social?

Did you see YouTube's latest action with removing the disliked views? How can people potentially know if a video is quality or not? By removing the dislike feature, viewers won't be able to accurately measure the proof of a video. And let's be honest, the like to dislike ratio is a critical metric for measuring the competence of the video creator. Maybe it's because the government wants to push the vaccine thing heavily? Something is a little smelly here...
 
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I agree. That's why I wrote 3 books on how to escape this system. ;)



Totally agree. Didn't know Andy was so "red pilled".
I'd love to see you on his podcast. You guys have a very similar way of thinking(as far as business is concerned). You both talk about growing brands vs businesses, creating exceptional customer service and keeping your customers vs always finding new ones, scaling and so on. Do you know him personally?
 
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History had lots of examples showing that freedom is not what other people can give. Everyone has to fight for their own freedom. Otherwise, history has shown that it won't last long.

Nationalism is also not based on false superiority but is rather an ideology that every people has the right to have their own country, speak their own language and follow their own traditions. Lots of nationalistic movements were created to fight for freedom and to escape the slavery induced by occupants. However, national socialism is a problem just like any other form of socialism.

@topic: In my opinion as a member of a German political party, governments don't really have to control people. Lots of governments in first world countries create opportunities to get a more or less comfortable life. However, once people get that comfort, they control themselves, their friends and family members on their own. People are afraid to lose a secure job. People are afraid to start a business. People are afraid to invest money and time in themselves. Let your environment influence you and since 99% of people do poorly in life, chances are high that they influence you.
Or in other words, people want to be like other people, right?
 

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In Europe and in the USA it's not "programmed" but controlled mostly through compulsory education, public education and natonalism which is based on false superiority to our global neighbors. We have freedoms but not enough to realize our full inalienable right to happiness. In China people are programmed but I believe they want freedom and we can give it to them. It;s time for a world-wide revolution.
Yeah man, you guys got to protect America. We got this technology because of you guys. It's crazy how the mandates have been going on in some states like California. It's either now or never. Fight for your freedom. Can you imagine what Abraham Lincoln or George Washington would think just by looking at how this mess was allowed to happen?
 
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History had lots of examples showing that freedom is not what other people can give. Everyone has to fight for their own freedom. Otherwise, history has shown that it won't last long.

Nationalism is also not based on false superiority but is rather an ideology that every people has the right to have their own country, speak their own language and follow their own traditions. Lots of nationalistic movements were created to fight for freedom and to escape the slavery induced by occupants. However, national socialism is a problem just like any other form of socialism.

@topic: In my opinion as a member of a German political party, governments don't really have to control people. Lots of governments in first world countries create opportunities to get a more or less comfortable life. However, once people get that comfort, they control themselves, their friends and family members on their own. People are afraid to lose a secure job. People are afraid to start a business. People are afraid to invest money and time in themselves. Let your environment influence you and since 99% of people do poorly in life, chances are high that they influence you.
In my opinion, the biggest problem society faces is that when everyone’s basic needs are met, people become unduly jealous of each other over pure “wants.”

The jealousy turns to anger, hate, theft, violence, and ultimately, the destruction of the comfort they had before.

All because their neighbor had a bigger house or something... just gotta be grateful, focus on yourself, work hard to improve your life... jealousy is an emotion of rot and decay... my two cents
 
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f*ck yes, especially some internet companies like FB and Google. If you say something on FB that doesn't go with their agenda, they say your post goes against their guidelines. WHAT guidelines are we talking about? Isn't that what FB was a couple years ago? A place of free speech and to make friends? It's bullshit. And just a couple months back that was going on with the Palestina thing, people's opinions were deleted to go with the good will of FB...

I actually had a business idea to create the next FB so people can say whatever they wanna say without having an oligarchy on their backs. I'm sick and tired of this. Even Instagram is not the same what it used to be 5 years ago. Who's with me on that one?

I had one post where it got almost 300k likes and got shadow banned and lost 95% of my reach because apparently I was conversating and replying to the comments too much. Isn't social media made to be social?

Did you see YouTube's latest action with their removing the dislike views? How can people potentially know if a video is quality or not? By removing the dislike feature, viewers won't be able to accurately measure the proof of a video. And let's be honest, the like to dislike ratio is a critical metric for measuring the competence of the video creator. Maybe it's because the government wants to push the vaccine thing heavily? Something is a little smelly here...
I agree 100%. These platforms were once free and open places for real people to have real discussions. Now they are severely controlled, hyper-censored, and even partisan biased. It’s a terrible path. The value that got them there is almost totally absent.
 
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f*ck yes, especially some internet companies like FB and Google. If you say something on FB that doesn't go with their agenda, they say your post goes against their guidelines. WHAT guidelines are we talking about? Isn't that what FB was a couple years ago? A place of free speech and to make friends? It's bullshit. And just a couple months back that was going on with the Palestina thing, people's opinions were deleted to go with the good will of FB...

I actually had a business idea to create the next FB so people can say whatever they wanna say without having an oligarchy on their backs. I'm sick and tired of this. Even Instagram is not the same what it used to be 5 years ago. Who's with me on that one?

I had one post where it got almost 300k likes and got shadow banned and lost 95% of my reach because apparently I was conversating and replying to the comments too much. Isn't social media made to be social?

Did you see YouTube's latest action with their removing the dislike views? How can people potentially know if a video is quality or not? By removing the dislike feature, viewers won't be able to accurately measure the proof of a video. And let's be honest, the like to dislike ratio is a critical metric for measuring the competence of the video creator. Maybe it's because the government wants to push the vaccine thing heavily? Something is a little smelly here...
Social media, owned by private businesses, is simply like a bulletin board in a privately owned supermarket. The supermarket can let anyone post anything, that they approve of, or remove postings that they do not. The first amendment, free speech, does not apply to private businesses, only to public speech. If you have an issue with that go ahead and create your own social media platorm. I think private social media should tell the government to take a hike.
 
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History had lots of examples showing that freedom is not what other people can give. Everyone has to fight for their own freedom. Otherwise, history has shown that it won't last long.

Nationalism is also not based on false superiority but is rather an ideology that every people has the right to have their own country, speak their own language and follow their own traditions. Lots of nationalistic movements were created to fight for freedom and to escape the slavery induced by occupants. However, national socialism is a problem just like any other form of socialism.

@topic: In my opinion as a member of a German political party, governments don't really have to control people. Lots of governments in first world countries create opportunities to get a more or less comfortable life. However, once people get that comfort, they control themselves, their friends and family members on their own. People are afraid to lose a secure job. People are afraid to start a business. People are afraid to invest money and time in themselves. Let your environment influence you and since 99% of people do poorly in life, chances are high that they influence you.
The Chinese people, at this current time, need someone from the outside help them get their freedom. They tried by themselves in 1989 and were literally crushed. The Chinese people simply want to create their owns lives in a free market. Everyone wants that. Anything else is not, and can not be, freedom.

Nationalism is frankly stupid. It's an idea that is forced upon citizens as a way of obedience and control. America needed to fight the oppressive British in 1776 and coming together as people with a common goal of freedom was vital. Today it's very different. Technoilogy has interfaced with the social world, just like the printing press did for the American revolution. People can lead and create their own lives. There's no need for "us" and "them" anymore. WE are all global citizens with the exact same inalienable (can't be give or taken away) rights.
 
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Totally agree. Didn't know Andy was so "red pilled".
I’m not sure what his podcast is like now that he’s changed it from the MFCEO but if it’s still like it was you should try and get on there

His business mindset was so similar to yours in those early episodes. Massive focus on customer service, giving people what they want, providing value and being exceptional at it. He’s also very honest about much work it is.
 

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I’m not sure what his podcast is like now that he’s changed it from the MFCEO but if it’s still like it was you should try and get on there

His business mindset was so similar to yours in those early episodes. Massive focus on customer service, giving people what they want, providing value and being exceptional at it. He’s also very honest about much work it is.
Their strategies are very similar. Andy's story is unbelievable. How he went from being stabbed in the face, living in the store and running his stores for 10 years and only making $52k in those ten years says a lot. To now running a $500 million company. It's crazy how much a person's life can change in just 10 years, or a little bit more(I think he started 1st Phorm when he was 29-30 back in 2009/2010, he's 41 now I think).
 

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Social media, owned by private businesses, is simply like a bulletin board in a privately owned supermarket. The supermarket can let anyone post anything, that they approve of, or remove postings that they do not. The first amendment, free speech, does not apply to private businesses, only to public speech. If you have an issue with that go ahead and create your own social media platorm. I think private social media should tell the government to take a hike.
It is a very risky thing now. You violate their community guidelines and boom, years of your work are gone, probably from a low wage employee in Asia.
 
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Honorable mention: Thank you MJ. I feel incredibly fortunate to have access to this level of knowledge at a very young age, it all started a year ago when I read the Millionaire Fastlane . I'm also happy to be a part of this fastlane forum with like minded individuals who also want something more out of life, who realize something is wrong in this system.

Do you guys think we were programmed to be average on purpose?

I just listened to a Andy Frisella's podcast episode with Tim Grover and Andy said something that really stuck with me. He said something along the lines of: "You guys don't get it. You are way more capable than what you think you are. Listen. They want you to suck. They need you to suck. They want you to stay that way so you'll give your control away and be dependent on the government. The government will continue printing money and that enables them to create more slaves within the system.

It is very sad to talk about it in this way...

What do you think?

(Even the whole Corona thing that's been going on for almost two years. There are many similarities to it with the Flu that happened way back in the 19th century. When masks became mandated, most of the people who died during the Flu was BECAUSE of the masks(I've heard a doctor speak who's experienced speak on the matter, and if I remember correctly he said the majority of deaths that were associated with the Flu happened because of moisture inside the masks, which allowed bacteria to infest itself inside the masks and made it easy for them to attack the victim's immune system when worn.)

Middle class is a trap! And is harder to get out your comfort zone because you have a roof, running water, and food, why bother to make efforts to live a life of abundance when you have all the basics needs covered?

It's very hard to "see the light", everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is capable of everything they want, the problem is people are not willing to make the effort needed to get it...

And yes, don't even get me started on Corona, the way they have been making money out of it it's outrageous and they don't even try to hide it anymore. Small example: I took a week off from work to come to Wales and spend the week in a cabin in the woods far from everything, just reading and brainstorming, I'm fully vaxinated because ofc I didn't have a choice, luckily "I didn't pay for the vaccine" (I paid it with the crazy amount of taxes I pay in France, almost 50% of my salary goes to taxes, yayyy) anyways, even if I'l fully vaxinated that supposedly it was the solution to go back to a normal life, to enter the UK I'm obliged to present a paper that proves that I bought a Covid test that I'm supposed to take on the second day here, ofc nobody gives a f*ck if you took the test or not as long as you paid for it and can prove it... so literally 25£ (others are even more expensive) for absolutely nothing for every single person that enters the UK, *cash register sound*
 

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Honorable mention: Thank you MJ. I feel incredibly fortunate to have access to this level of knowledge at a very young age, it all started a year ago when I read the Millionaire Fastlane . I'm also happy to be a part of this fastlane forum with like minded individuals who also want something more out of life, who realize something is wrong in this system.

Do you guys think we were programmed to be average on purpose?

I just listened to a Andy Frisella's podcast episode with Tim Grover and Andy said something that really stuck with me. He said something along the lines of: "You guys don't get it. You are way more capable than what you think you are. Listen. They want you to suck. They need you to suck. They want you to stay that way so you'll give your control away and be dependent on the government. The government will continue printing money and that enables them to create more slaves within the system.

It is very sad to talk about it in this way...

What do you think?

(Even the whole Corona thing that's been going on for almost two years. There are many similarities to it with the Flu that happened way back in the 19th century. When masks became mandated, most of the people who died during the Flu was BECAUSE of the masks(I've heard a doctor speak who's experienced speak on the matter, and if I remember correctly he said the majority of deaths that were associated with the Flu happened because of moisture inside the masks, which allowed bacteria to infest itself inside the masks and made it easy for them to attack the victim's immune system when worn.)
I disagree that government or the power that be wanted more control on behavior.

Governments are primarily concerned of two things. First is national security. First thing always is to build up a military and have some sort of intelligence agency. Survival is top priority.

Second is fiscal sustainability. Taxes and spending. With spending you can buy power and influence, which might translate into more monetary wealth and power.

It is literally the mafia business model. The rest are not top on the priority. In fact government prefer more capable people in their regime. It means more jobs created and more tax dollar. If there are more people dependent on the government means more liability.

The pressure for behavior control is more bottom up than top down. If you notice in schools there are always kids who enjoy being snitches on reporting unapproved behavior to teachers and pressuring the teachers to take actions. These kids grow up to be adult vigilantes. There are significant of them in every country and they happen to be vocal and hence a powerful political force. They enjoy using moral and legal authority to apply on force on others. It is a psychological thrill of power. The reason and justice behind the rules or laws is of little importance.
 
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Did you see YouTube's latest action with removing the disliked views? How can people potentially know if a video is quality or not?


When youtube did this I only could think about this one, though it's still showing for some reason. I bet the ministry of truth doesn't like this one.

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I disagree that government or the power that be wanted more control on behavior.

Governments are primarily concerned of two things. First is national security. First thing always is to build up a military and have some sort of intelligence agency. Survival is top priority.

Second is fiscal sustainability. Taxes and spending. With spending you can buy power and influence, which might translate into more monetary wealth and power.

It is literally the mafia business model. The rest are not top on the priority. In fact government prefer more capable people in their regime. It means more jobs created and more tax dollar. If there are more people dependent on the government means more liability.

The pressure for behavior control is more bottom up than top down. If you notice in schools there are always kids who enjoy being snitches on reporting unapproved behavior to teachers and pressuring the teachers to take actions. These kids grow up to be adult vigilantes. There are significant of them in every country and they happen to be vocal and hence a powerful political force. They enjoy using moral and legal authority to apply on force on others. It is a psychological thrill of power. The reason and justice behind the rules or laws is of little importance.
Isn't that how Bill Gates got involved with the vaccine thing? And how the other billionaires control the world with the government?
 
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I disagree that government or the power that be wanted more control on behavior.

Governments are primarily concerned of two things. First is national security. First thing always is to build up a military and have some sort of intelligence agency. Survival is top priority.

Second is fiscal sustainability. Taxes and spending. With spending you can buy power and influence, which might translate into more monetary wealth and power.

It is literally the mafia business model. The rest are not top on the priority. In fact government prefer more capable people in their regime. It means more jobs created and more tax dollar. If there are more people dependent on the government means more liability.

The pressure for behavior control is more bottom up than top down. If you notice in schools there are always kids who enjoy being snitches on reporting unapproved behavior to teachers and pressuring the teachers to take actions. These kids grow up to be adult vigilantes. There are significant of them in every country and they happen to be vocal and hence a powerful political force. They enjoy using moral and legal authority to apply on force on others. It is a psychological thrill of power. The reason and justice behind the rules or laws is of little importance.
There’s a balance between people who seek to control others and people who seek to cheat, steal, destroy things, etc.

The rest of us just want to live in peace, strive towards our goals, and not have our stuff stolen or burned in a riot.

Obviously we don’t want a police state, but I also wouldn’t want to live in a state of constant war, crime, and chaos.
 

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Isn't that how Bill Gates got involved with the vaccine thing? And how the other billionaires control the world with the government?
The kind of control the elites want is the control that that are beneficial, not creating liability for themselves. It is either more direct access to wealth or preemptive strikes against threats.

When you make people dependent on handouts, it is just creating more liabilities. They do not like bums too. Just look like how immigration policies are written, welcoming people with certain skill sets or money to invest.

They like people who are productive to produce wealth but not powerful enough to upset the status quo. That is why the state is so into surveillance. Supposedly one day you want to run for office and start to campaign for your political ideas that they don’t like you will see your early days nude photos start appearing in mainstream news. They like productive people who can create wealth but they also want to “grab your balls” so that when you suddenly turn against they will teach a lesson quickly on who is in charge.
 
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There’s a balance between people who seek to control others and people who seek to cheat, steal, destroy things, etc.

The rest of us just want to live in peace, strive towards our goals, and not have our stuff stolen or burned in a riot.

Obviously we don’t want a police state, but I also wouldn’t want to live in a state of constant war, crime, and chaos.
Spot on sir.
 

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The kind of control the elites want is the control that that are beneficial, not creating liability for themselves. It is either more direct access to wealth or preemptive strikes against threats.

When you make people dependent on handouts, it is just creating more liabilities. They do not like bums too. Just look like how immigration policies are written, welcoming people with certain skill sets or money to invest.

They like people who are productive to produce wealth but not powerful enough to upset the status quo. That is why the state is so into surveillance. Supposedly one day you want to run for office and start to campaign for your political ideas that they don’t like you will see your early days nude photos start appearing in mainstream news. They like productive people who can create wealth but they also want to “grab your balls” so that when you suddenly turn against they will teach a lesson quickly on who is in charge.
Wow Kevin, thanks. You're very knowledgeable about this. I agree 100%.
 

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There’s a balance between people who seek to control others and people who seek to cheat, steal, destroy things, etc.

The rest of us just want to live in peace, strive towards our goals, and not have our stuff stolen or burned in a riot.

Obviously we don’t want a police state, but I also wouldn’t want to live in a state of constant war, crime, and chaos.
I was referring to those people who want to enforce stricter social distancing control, vaccine and mask related covid19 enforcement. The pressure is more from bottom up.
 
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The kind of control the elites want is the control that that are beneficial, not creating liability for themselves. It is either more direct access to wealth or preemptive strikes against threats.

When you make people dependent on handouts, it is just creating more liabilities. They do not like bums too. Just look like how immigration policies are written, welcoming people with certain skill sets or money to invest.

They like people who are productive to produce wealth but not powerful enough to upset the status quo. That is why the state is so into surveillance. Supposedly one day you want to run for office and start to campaign for your political ideas that they don’t like you will see your early days nude photos start appearing in mainstream news. They like productive people who can create wealth but they also want to “grab your balls” so that when you suddenly turn against they will teach a lesson quickly on who is in charge.
There's no well thought out complete control. How do you explain the vast gross waste, incompetence and abuse in all levels of government? Others wanting to give jobs to people who can legtitimately earn a living? Perhaps. But I have another theory: Democracy is no longer needed. It's a bad system now. People needed force for freedom back in 1776. Now it's much different. People need, and want, to create their owns lives without interference from anyone. We can have that. It's not too difficult. The new and final rule: Do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't violate the rights of others.
 

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There's no well thought out complete control. How do you explain the vast gross waste, incompetence and abuse in all levels of government? Others wanting to give jobs to people who can legtitimately earn a living? Perhaps. But I have another theory: Democracy is no longer needed. It's a bad system now. People needed force for freedom back in 1776. Now it's much different. People need, and want, to create their owns lives without interference from anyone. We can have that. It's not too difficult. The new and final rule: Do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't violate the rights of others.
There is always disconnect between what the power that be want and what they can achieve in reality. In politics no one can control everything. Ideally to the power that be everyone is productive and needs no welfare. The country is powerful on all measures. Tax dollar coming in with budget surplus and no expenditure needed for education, health…

For every mess and inefficiency you see there are people benefiting it. There are always compromise and alliance across different interest groups.

Regarding democracy I think there is also an element of strong historic legacy. I think the first modern welfare state started in 19th century Germany. Voting rights and privileges were more equally distributed from the top because you need soldiers to fight other powers ( as I mentioned earlier national security a top priority). The people in power realise that citizen soldiers are much more reliable than mercenary and peasant conscripts who are going to run away when they heard the first gunshot they know this country do not belong to them and there is nothing to fight for.

There was a unwritten social contract between the elites and the average citizen holding the rifle, that the German soldiers will march into France storming the bullets because they get to receive a share of the victory loots. Similarly that is how United States expanded from 13 colonies. The social contract was built on one gun one vote.

Fast forward to today, maybe everyone joins the U.S. armed force is just looking it as a mean to clear his student debt. The trust between the have and haven not is broken.
Everyone is just pushing their own agenda selfishly in politics. Power no longer comes with obligation, and there is no common goal. The poor hate the rich, but the policies just put stress on the middle class. And the rich own multiple passports and they can run anytime when they feel the ship is not right.
 

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