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I use cheap 3M micropore tape which works just fine, but of course, you can buy more expensive alternatives like the mouth tape from Somnifix. Usually, a small Charlie Chaplin mustache-sized tape is enough, but I like taping my whole mouth. It's a personal preference.

For a starter, it forces you to breathe through your nose, which is the best and healthiest way to breathe - everything else is unnatural (except when doing breathwork). I slept with an open mouth mostly because my nose is often stuffed and I have a deviated septum and not using your nose leads to a more congested nose.

I wake up more rested and my Oura ring readings indicate that I have a better sleep in terms of quality (more deep sleep). I know that the Oura ring is not a super accurate device for measuring sleep, but it supports my subjective feeling that I wake up better rested.

Not sure about the scientific aspect, but nasal breathing is critical as it increases nitric oxide production which leads to lower blood pressure as nitric oxide expands the blood vessels which in turn improves oxygen transportation.

I can't cite any scientific studies on the top of my head right now, but it not only increases your oral health but your overall health can benefit greatly. I think it is shown that breathing to your mouth changes the pH-value rather quickly to an environment prone to the growth of bad bacteria. I think the dentist Dr. Mark Burhenne had an interesting video about this on YouTube.
Thanks so much for the detailed explanation! I have heard about how nasal breathing is better for the airways, as the nose is a better defense agains cold and microbes than the mouth, but I never really looked into other benefits. It's funny how my nose being congested is one of the things that holds me back from practices like this, when it's probably exactly what I need :D
 

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I was searching this forum and was quite startled that it has not yet discussed here.

I learned about the Wim Hof Method a while back in one of the most famous documentaries about him, which is from VICE and dates back a few years. I tried doing the breathing exercises and never really maintained it as a habit with the consistency that is necessary to use it successfully.

After seeing the big wave surfer Laird Hamilton talking about it, I kind of got obsessed with it again and started using the Wim Hof Method again with the additional cold exposure training.

I like the feeling of the energy boost after doing the breathwork and also think it is fascinating how we can control our autonomic nervous system "only" through breathing.

I find it also a good alternative to standard meditation. I use the Headspace app and find it hard to focus on the meditation while the breathing works like an active meditation exercise for me.

It is hard to think about anything else then your body when it tingles and your brain feels like a napalm bomb exploded inside of it.

I am still experimenting with the right technique and wanted to know if anyone is using the Wim Hof Method as well.
Hi Kaizen502,

Since i have some experience with breathing exercises, i think i can reply.

If you read Yoga sutra from Patanjali, Breathing exercises(Pranayama) comes after Eyama(Do's) and Niyama(Don'ts) . It's a step by step approach. After that you can progress to breathing exercises. Going directly to breathing exercises skipping the two steps lead to deterioration of health and various health problems.

To get clarity on these, read books of patanjali(yoga) and Osho(meditation).
if you have queries, let me know.
 

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Been doing it every other day or so for about a year now. Calms you down like nothing else will, and you get a joyful feeling afterwards, at least I do.

Also, did it when we found out the GF had the rona. Mild fever for two hours, but I never actually caught it as I don't even have the antibodies apparently. And I dine out ALL the time and travel quite a bit.
 

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Just finished Wim Hof's book and had my first cryo experience. It was cold, but I can't say I felt any different afterward.

I'd like to try cold showers, but in Arizona, there is no cold water... only luke warm. I will need to buy ice.

I will also attempt the breathing exercises since I already meditate already.
 

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I've been doing it for close to 4 years. Have not been sick since I started.

I start my day with 15 minutes of WHM Breathing (I use his app) and get retention times up to 4 minutes on a good day. Every day is different.

Also doing 3 minutes of cold shower daily - and I try to take a cold bath every week. But I have to admit I bitch out regularly on the bath. The dreaded few seconds when the ice hits your skin - it never gets any easier.

Scott Carney - the author of "What Doesn't Kill You" describes it as "the wedge". - very interesting book by the way. This guy was planning to write a takedown hit-piece on Wim Hof but ended up being one of his biggest supporters and writing two books about him.
 

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get retention times up to 4 minutes on a good day.

That's the exhale after 30 deep breaths and hold?

This guy was planning to write a takedown hit-piece on Wim Hof but ended up being one of his biggest supporters and writing two books about him.

The scientific data behind it is indeed, quite interesting.
 

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I was doing it quite a bit last year. Sort of fell off but would like to get back into it. I reached a 3:30 breath hold. Was able to stand/lay in the snow for 3-5minutes. And it really helped me come to a better understanding of deep meditation.


You do feel amazing when you do it. If you buy his course he guides you through a stretching/yoga workout while breathing, followed by meditation. Then you're supposed to take a cold shower/dip.
 

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I've been doing it for close to 4 years. Have not been sick since I started.

I start my day with 15 minutes of WHM Breathing (I use his app) and get retention times up to 4 minutes on a good day. Every day is different.

Also doing 3 minutes of cold shower daily - and I try to take a cold bath every week. But I have to admit I bitch out regularly on the bath. The dreaded few seconds when the ice hits your skin - it never gets any easier.

Scott Carney - the author of "What Doesn't Kill You" describes it as "the wedge". - very interesting book by the way. This guy was planning to write a takedown hit-piece on Wim Hof but ended up being one of his biggest supporters and writing two books about him.
I didn’t know there was an app for breathing.
I read that book when it just came out, did cold showers die a year and then stopped. But with this thread I want to return to it.
What’s the best resource? An app?

Edit: downloaded the app. It’s all clear now. Did breathing exercises and held on 1:42. Appreciate this thread starter and contributing posts for nudging me back to this. I remember years back it was transforming for my fitness. Running in winter months made possible. Thanks everyone.
 
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I have been doing the WH breathing sessions 1x perday since a little less than 1 year. This stuff is pretty incredible and I've already recommended it a few times to close friend and family.

I start my day with 15 minutes of WHM Breathing (I use his app) and get retention times up to 4 minutes on a good day. Every day is different.
Wow, 4 minutes is impressive. I've already reached 2.5 min on good days but as you said, every day is different. That's crazy !
The craziest part is the tingling I get sometimes on the last round. It's like, my body is full of tingling, I can't move even after the session and I need 2-3 minutes to really come back to "normal". Only by breathing...

What’s the best resource? An app?
I use the Youtube video for the breathing part.
You can dowload the app for free to take a look. Then you can upgrade it by paying a subscription. You have then different options like preparing a program, tune your breathing sessions...

Just finished Wim Hof's book
I hesitated to read it. Would you say it is worth reading it ?
 

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Just finished Wim Hof's book and had my first cryo experience. It was cold, but I can't say I felt any different afterward.

I'd like to try cold showers, but in Arizona, there is no cold water... only luke warm. I will need to buy ice.

I will also attempt the breathing exercises since I already meditate already.

Get a chest freezer.

One of my close friends tried several ways to do an ice bath, including buying lots of ice, the final solution was to fill a chest freezer with water (it's a good idea to seal some seams with silicon first).

Now at least 6 people I know have the same setup and it's working great for everyone. I'm going put one in my new office now that I have a good space for it.

I'll link to a video so you can see what I mean.

EDIT: Here's the video
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-NEUqPoxg
 
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Wow the app is amazing. I’m addicted day 1. Breathing, cold shower, stretch and push-ups. All done. Let’s see how far I can take this.

Thanks @MJ DeMarco for the forum, for the many reminders and new knowledge on how to live better.
 

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That's the exhale after 30 deep breaths and hold?

I'm referring to the time I can hold my breath. For more than a year I was doing it wrong, actually. I did the 30 breaths in through the nose and out of the mouth. But when you see Wim Hof doing it - he inhales through the mouth and out through the mouth.

I usually do 40 breaths instead of 30. Sometimes even 60 like in this YT video:

This is a GREAT video to go deep:

I can guarantee you'll be as high as a kite if you go along with this video. But for me it stopped working.

The craziest part is the tingling I get sometimes on the last round. It's like, my body is full of tingling, I can't move even after the session and I need 2-3 minutes to really come back to "normal".
I long for the tingling and the feeling high. It goes away as you build your practice. The same with the cold showers, which is why you see people building contraptions with plastic bottles sewn in half and ice cubes that they attach to the 'douche nozzle'. Crazy how the body adapts.

And one thing that is REALLY crazy is that when you get into the higher retention times that for example, the time between 3 minutes and 4 minutes of breath-holding feels like 10 seconds. It's INSANE. I still haven't figured out what that is. You hear the ping of the app announcing 3 minutes and then just afterwards the ping for 4 minutes. Time speeds up within the exercise.
 

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I was searching this forum and was quite startled that it has not yet discussed here.

I learned about the Wim Hof Method a while back in one of the most famous documentaries about him, which is from VICE and dates back a few years. I tried doing the breathing exercises and never really maintained it as a habit with the consistency that is necessary to use it successfully.

After seeing the big wave surfer Laird Hamilton talking about it, I kind of got obsessed with it again and started using the Wim Hof Method again with the additional cold exposure training.

I like the feeling of the energy boost after doing the breathwork and also think it is fascinating how we can control our autonomic nervous system "only" through breathing.

I find it also a good alternative to standard meditation. I use the Headspace app and find it hard to focus on the meditation while the breathing works like an active meditation exercise for me.

It is hard to think about anything else then your body when it tingles and your brain feels like a napalm bomb exploded inside of it.

I am still experimenting with the right technique and wanted to know if anyone is using the Wim Hof Method as well.
I do the "Wim Hof beginner's meditation" every day.

It's been very helpful for my mental/emotional state, day to day.
After a month or two I feel like a calmer, more in control version of myself.
 

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Just finished Wim Hof's book and had my first cryo experience. It was cold, but I can't say I felt any different afterward.

I'd like to try cold showers, but in Arizona, there is no cold water... only luke warm. I will need to buy ice.

I will also attempt the breathing exercises since I already meditate already.
I know what you mean by luke warm water. I live in California. Surprisingly, you can get a shower water chiller for under $600.
 

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I’m on Day 3. Nothing to celebrate yet, but it’s a start. Breath holds are still short, they are harder for me. But I’m very comfortable in a cold shower. Can be there for a few minutes and enjoying it. Not looking forward to ice bath.
 

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I'm referring to the time I can hold my breath. For more than a year I was doing it wrong, actually. I did the 30 breaths in through the nose and out of the mouth. But when you see Wim Hof doing it - he inhales through the mouth and out through the mouth.

I usually do 40 breaths instead of 30. Sometimes even 60 like in this YT video:

This is a GREAT video to go deep:

I can guarantee you'll be as high as a kite if you go along with this video. But for me it stopped working.


I long for the tingling and the feeling high. It goes away as you build your practice. The same with the cold showers, which is why you see people building contraptions with plastic bottles sewn in half and ice cubes that they attach to the 'douche nozzle'. Crazy how the body adapts.

And one thing that is REALLY crazy is that when you get into the higher retention times that for example, the time between 3 minutes and 4 minutes of breath-holding feels like 10 seconds. It's INSANE. I still haven't figured out what that is. You hear the ping of the app announcing 3 minutes and then just afterwards the ping for 4 minutes. Time speeds up within the exercise.
Try doing 100 breaths in and out. Just 2 rounds. I've only done it once, in a group, and it was much stronger.

I struggled badly with the chest freezer ice bath the first few times. When I took it a bit easier and didn't put my arms in at the beginning it made it a lot easier. Then eventually it wasn't an issue.
 

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I’m getting addicted to it. Have the app, paid subscription. The breath hold times differ from day to day but consistently higher after round 2 than than round 1. Throat gets a little dry from all this breathing.
Showers are (for now) easy.
Push-ups became fun.
This is great stuff!
 

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going strong since the last post here. The cold showers are now very enjoyable. The breathing exercises are great, but I can’t seem to hold past 3 min marker. Maybe is psychological. Push-ups were fun but the escalation in how many to do on one breath hold seems too hard. I max out at 45 and am supposed to be doing 62 today… maybe eventually with a lot more practice. My upper body wasn’t strong to begin with, I was more into endurance cycling/running.

Almost a month into it and loving the app more than I thought I would. Highly recommend.
 

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Cold showers have become a lot easier when I think of it more like just doing a little workout for my cardiovascular system. I still start off a little bit warm though.

The breathing has pretty much become a daily habit now. I first started around April last year and kept it up for a few months, but now it's become something that I notice if I don't do it. I don't use the guided versions or music at all anymore and it's better. The guided breathing really helped turn it into a habit the last 6 months though.
 

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going strong since the last post here. The cold showers are now very enjoyable. The breathing exercises are great, but I can’t seem to hold past 3 min marker. Maybe is psychological. Push-ups were fun but the escalation in how many to do on one breath hold seems too hard. I max out at 45 and am supposed to be doing 62 today… maybe eventually with a lot more practice. My upper body wasn’t strong to begin with, I was more into endurance cycling/running.

Almost a month into it and loving the app more than I thought I would. Highly recommend.
I think 3 minutes is a long time. I don't get wrapped up in trying to improve times anymore though. As long as I can clear my head and feel better about the day ahead, then I'm happy.
 

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I haven't tried is techniques. They had a documentary on him in the Netherlands I watched on the Television. I'm not really into cold showers. Michigan has a lot of snow. I've walked on the snow barefoot before. Doesn't really sound any different then some of the YT self-guided meditations I taught myself with in the past. I don't have that list anymore though since it was back in 2011-2016 I listened to most of them.
 

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