A Conversation about death...

[Lex DeVille]

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O/T: Health - My 600lb Life: Addiction, Enabling, More (RANT)

I was going to put this in the RANDOM RANT thread but I thought it needed its own thread.

So I got stuck watching a few of these episodes and I've never been so frustrated in my life at human behavior.

What is happening on this show is DISGUSTING, and I don't mean the obese people struggling with food addiction.

This poor guy was 850 lbs. Mostly bed-ridden. Couldn't walk through doors. Terrible lymphedemas.

After watching a few episodes, here are the sad conclusions...

First, every obese person is an addict ... addicted to junk food, sugar, dairy (cheese), meat products, and processed food. THERE ISN'T A VEGETABLE IN SIGHT.

Not one subject was addicted to apples, kale, quinoa, or bananas.

Second, every morbidly obese person is being judged by another obese person.

In the case above, Robert, practically EVERYONE in his life was obese. I'm not talking about 20 lbs, but 100s. These people would interact with him as if he was the only one with the problem -- NO, YOU ALL HAVE A PROBLEM.

Third-- every single one of these people have a disconnect to what they shoved in their mouth (diet) and their weight. They think the FOOD isn't the problem, they think it's the QUANTITY, or something HORMONAL.

They don't see the system around them as the problem when the system is designed for this very function: sickness and obesity = profit.

The system of processed agriculture and the lobbyists/politicians who backstop it is designed to make you FAT and SICK. This is why a COKE is cheaper than a bottle of water. This is why a Bic Mac is cheaper than a deluxe salad.

Fourth -- and the most disgusting and frustrating thing of all -- every single one of these people who have eaten themselves immobile and near death has ENABLERS. Friends, family, and even parents.

I was absolutely sickened to see the mother of this man bring him whatever he wants.

Oh, he gets angry if I don't get him what he wants.
Oh, well Robert likes what he likes.

Are you f*cking kidding me?

Your kid is killing himself and you're only concern is to not make him mad?

Really?

You want your 4 bacon-double cheeseburgers? Get out of bed and go get them yourself.

Fifth -- these people see the "weight loss surgery" as the answer to their problems. Yes, the old EVENT/PROCESS where surgery represents the life-changing EVENT, the SHORTCUT whereas the PROCESS (proper diet) can be dismissed.

To be eligible for the surgery, they are required to lose weight. Then, they lose weight not because of the weight loss implications, but because they view the SURGERY as the quick fix. In other words, after I have the surgery, I'll be able to EAT WHATEVER THE f*ck I WANT again, I just won't eat as much.

Only the perceived access to the shortcut (surgery) is enough to get them to engage in the process (diet).

Sixth -- the enablers (family and friends) of these obese people are selfish and rude accomplices to murder. Even after the doctor clearly says "You are killing yourself" -- family members have NO PROBLEM eating garbage in front of the obese person trying to lose weight.

It's like trying to rehabilitate an alcoholic in a bar, or a crackhead in a crackhouse.

And these are people who supposedly "care" about their obese family member.

Well, we really care about Bill, but not so much to stop eating Mac and Cheese and greasy chicken in front of him.

Sick.

They only care about protecting what they shove in their mouth and how it tastes, and how it makes them feel.

This poor guy above -- even after losing 200+ lbs and FINALLY getting the help he needed ended up suffering a heart attack and dying on the show.

Tragic, but not unexpected.

But hey, at least his mother didn't make him angry and she was kind enough to bring him 2 loaves of bread, 6 perogies, and 3 bags of Skittles.

End Rant.

How you feel about this show and the people in it is how I feel about death in general and the entire population. I feel bad for these people for missing out on what little life they have, but in the end we all die (for now) and nobody seems to give a shit about that.

Obesity is an unfortunate problem, especially when it leads to early death. To me the bigger tragedy is death itself. Extending the lifespan won't solve the obesity problem, but it might help.

Some days I find it hard to get motivated when I think about the fact in another 50 years or so I'll be nothing more than a lingering thought (crossing my fingers for the Singularity though). My existence will extend as far as the legacy I leave behind, and the length of time it continues to be a legacy until the new society decides its not.

Columbus day in Oklahoma is now called "Indigenous People's Day." Not that it matters. Columbus ain't coming back whether we remember him or not.

I just want to have the choice to live and keep living. The thought that it's all coming to an end for everyone is the most frustrating, sad thought in the world. Almost as sad and distressing as the realization that virtually nobody cares and everybody on the planet is an enabler.

 

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[amp0193]

Jux zua giim ecuav vjot tjux epf vji qiuqmi op ov ot jux O giim ecuav fievj op hipisem epf vji ipvosi quqamevoup. O giim cef gus vjiti qiuqmi gus nottoph uav up xjev movvmi mogi vjiz jewi, cav op vji ipf xi emm foi (gus pux) epf pucufz tiint vu howi e tj*v ecuav vjev.

Hsuxoph aq simohouat, O vjopl vjot ot upi ug ov't coh dupt. Cz qsunotoph mogi egvis fievj, epf e "updi tewif, emxezt tewif" fudvsopi.... ov lopf ug velit vji ashipdz uav ug mogi.

Og mogi ot "taqqutif vu ci taggisoph", vjip xjz vsz vu tvuq taggisoph? Ov'mm ci civvis op vji piyv mogi.

Xjip O eddiqvif vu nztimg vjev vjisi qsucecmz otp'v epzvjoph nusi, epf vjot ot emm vjev O jewi... ximm tjov, vjev huv ni huoph. Gus e xjomi, O jef e "fievj duapvfuxp" xofhiv gus djsuni vjev xuamf tjux nz pancis ug xiilt migv xjip O uqipif e pix vec.

Qiuqmi hu vjios xjumi mogi vszoph puv vu vjopl ecuav fievj. O vjopl ecuav ov emm vji voni. O onehopi tdipesout xjisi nz xogi epf loft foi, epf jux nz mogi xuamf djephi, epf xjev O xuamf fu foggisipvmz. O siemmz moli vji qjomutuqjz ug Tvuodotn xjodj hivt opvu vjot lopf ug vjoph. Ov mivt zua ci ev qiedi xovj jux tjovvz epf sepfun mogi dep ci.

 

[lowtek]

Hsuxoph aq simohouat, O vjopl vjot ot upi ug ov't coh dupt. Cz qsunotoph mogi egvis fievj, epf e "updi tewif, emxezt tewif" fudvsopi.... ov lopf ug velit vji ashipdz uav ug mogi.

Og mogi ot "taqqutif vu ci taggisoph", vjip xjz vsz vu tvuq taggisoph? Ov'mm ci civvis op vji piyv mogi.

Xjip O eddiqvif vu nztimg vjev vjisi qsucecmz otp'v epzvjoph nusi, epf vjot ot emm vjev O jewi... ximm tj*v, vjev huv ni huoph. Gus e xjomi, O jef e "fievj duapvfuxp" xofhiv gus djsuni vjev xuamf tjux nz pancis ug xiilt migv xjip O uqipif e pix vec.

Qiuqmi hu vjios xjumi mogi vszoph puv vu vjopl ecuav fievj. O vjopl ecuav ov emm vji voni. O onehopi tdipesout xjisi nz xogi epf loft foi, epf jux nz mogi xuamf djephi, epf xjev O xuamf fu foggisipvmz. O siemmz moli vji qjomutuqjz ug Tvuodotn xjodj hivt opvu vjot lopf ug vjoph. Ov mivt zua ci ev qiedi xovj jux tj*vvz epf sepfun mogi dep ci.

Fenp fafi, O vjuahjv O xet fesl.

 

[amp0193]

Fenp fafi, O vjuahjv O xet fesl.

Puv fesl, siemmz. Moli, ov't puv e givotj us epzvjoph. O'n katv fsowoph up vji johjxez epf e sepfun vjuahjv quqt op nz jief epf O csoigmz dupvinqmevi ov... optvief ug caszoph ov.

O edlpuxmifhi fievj, epf ov op vasp ipecmit ni vu mowi e nusi iyvseusfopesz mogi.

 

[Veloce Grey]

O katv xepv vu jewi vji djuodi vu mowi epf liiq mowoph. Vji vjuahjv vjev ov't emm dunoph vu ep ipf gus iwiszupi ot vji nutv gsatvsevoph, tef vjuahjv op vji xusmf. Emnutv et tef epf fotvsittoph et vji siemobevoup vjev wosvaemmz pucufz desit epf iwiszcufz up vji qmepiv ot ep ipecmis.

Xjeviwis zuas vjuahjvt up fievj, og zua mowi muph ipuahj, iwipvaemmz vjisi xomm duni e quopv xjisi zua'si puv raovi tu liip vu liiq up huoph. Nz qesipvt mowif muph mowit, itqidoemmz nz Fef xju evi geosmz jiemvjomz, cav vji gedv ot vji nopf tonqmz jet ep iyqosz fevi vuu epf op jot deti ov niepv nopf xipv cigusi cufz. Og O duamf jewi fupi ov mihemmz, O'f jewi velip cuvj nz qesipvt uav epf qav e cammiv op vjin e duaqmi ug ziest cigusi vjiz foif. Ov xuamf jewi ciip nisdogam. Mowoph cizupf zuas nopf't iyqosz fevi ot ges teffis vjep fzoph.

Et vu vji Enisodep foiv, O uddetoupemmz hu vu tvusit op PB vjev timm onqusvif txiivt gsun vji ATE vu neli tuni puwimvz qasdjetit. Vji vjoph ot piovjis O pus epzupi imti O'wi uggisif vjin vu jet ciip ecmi vu iev nepz ug vjiti vjopht. Vjiz tonqmz fup'v sitincmi guuf vu at. O vsoif e Vxoploi gus vji gostv voni vjot zies epf vjiz esi vsamz exgam, puv katv op vetvi cav zua fup'v giim moli zua'si ievoph guuf. Vji nestjnemmux gmagg tqsief tvagg O duamfp'v iwip csoph nztimg vu vsz cav nz ipfasoph ninusz ug ov xet gostv tiioph ov up e vw tjux xjisi tuni qacmod tdjuumt op vji AT xisi howoph ov vu loft op tepfxodjit gus mapdj. Xju duamf quttocmz vjopl vjev ot e huuf ofie?

 

[Thoelt53]

Fenp fafi, O vjuahjv O xet fesl.

Jeje, O xet vjoploph vji teni vjoph. Iydiqv O fu vji teni vjoph.

Puv fesl, siemmz. Moli, ov't puv e givotj us epzvjoph. O'n katv fsowoph up vji johjxez epf e sepfun vjuahjv quqt op nz jief epf O csoigmz dupvinqmevi ov... optvief ug caszoph ov.

O edlpuxmifhi fievj, epf ov op vasp ipecmit ni vu mowi e nusi iyvseusfopesz mogi.

O’wi emxezt jef opvsatowi fesl vjuahjvt, epf O’wi miespif vu incsedi vjin cideati vjiz’si puv siem epf vjiz’si puv nopi. Vjiz katv quq aq.

Nz op-mext mowi op PZ, epf xjip
nz xogi huit vu wotov xovj nz tup O dep’v jimq cav wowofmz onehopi vjin qisotjoph op e jussocmi eddofipv. O hu fuxp vji seccov jumi epf ov vuvemmz gsielt ni uav. O’n puv tasi og ov’t e dupvsum ottai xjisi O’n puv vjisi vu qsuvidv vjin us xjev.

O xomm tez vjev emvjuahj ov’t fesl epf O fup’v moli ov, O’wi miespif vu mowi xovj ov. Vjiti “Huf-guscof” tdipesout neli ni e civvis jatcepf epf gevjis cz sinopfoph ni vjev mogi ot gopovi epf gsehomi.

 

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[minivanman]

O atif vu siemmz gsiel uav xjip nz xogi xuamf hu up e vsoq... tji huit up e muv ug vsoqt emm uwis vji xusmf gus xusl. O piwis siemmz vumf epzupi cav O xet gsieloph uav optofi. Moli zua, O'f onehopi jussocmi eddofipvt jeqqipoph. O tvomm jewi Gmohjv Exesi tewif epf djidl ov sihamesmz xjip tji ot gmzoph cav O fup'v gsiel uav raovi tu cef vjiti fezt.

O'wi piwis gimv apfitiswoph qistupemmz cav O'n huoph vu veml vu nz qesvpis vunussux ecuav vjev. Xi esi ep uqip cuul tu ov fuitp'v cuvjis ni vu veml vu jon ecuav ov. Qmat, O dep mief ov vu ov cz vemloph ecuav vjot cioph jot 1 zies eppowistesz ug jot uqisevoup. Cz vji xez, ji xet upmz 350mct cav jot fudvus nefi jon hiv vji uqisevoup cideati tunivjoph xet nittif aq xovj jot cmuuf qsittasi epf og ji fofp'v hiv vji uqisevoup, vjiz teof ji xuamf jewi foif op 2018. Topdi vji uqisevoup jot cmuuf qsittasi ot pusnem.

O'n xovj zua up Vxoploit, vjiz tadl.... hu hiv tuni Movvmi Ficcoit Txott Summt. Cav zua dep'v katv iev vji Txott Summ, zua jewi vu iev ov dussidvmz.... 1 mezis ev e voni. mum

 

[Lex DeVille]

Xjeviwis zuas vjuahjvt up fievj, og zua mowi muph ipuahj, iwipvaemmz vjisi xomm duni e quopv xjisi zua'si puv raovi tu liip vu liiq up huoph.

Mowoph cizupf zuas nopf't iyqosz fevi ot ges teffis vjep fzoph.

Fup'v xepv vu fiseom vji vjsief, tu O'mm katv johjmohjv vjot qutv et ep iyenqmi. Tuniupi nipvoupt e fitosi vu jewi vji djuodi ug jux muph vu mowi, tuniupi imti ot siefz vu tjuuv ov fuxp xovj qistupem coetit, cimoigt, epf apguapfif uqopoupt. Ov't puv siemmz foggisipv gsun xjev jeqqipt op qiuqmi fiemoph xovj ucitovz.

 

[Veloce Grey]

Fup'v xepv vu fiseom vji vjsief, tu O'mm katv johjmohjv vjot qutv et ep iyenqmi. Tuniupi nipvoupt e fitosi vu jewi vji djuodi ug jux muph vu mowi, tuniupi imti ot siefz vu tjuuv ov fuxp xovj qistupem coetit, cimoigt, epf apguapfif uqopoupt. Ov't puv siemmz foggisipv gsun xjev jeqqipt op qiuqmi fiemoph xovj ucitovz.

O'n puv "tjuuvoph fuxp" zuas fitosi-og zua xepv vu mowi vu 150-200 us 500/1000 xjeviwis vjev't gopi ov't zuas catopitt epf nezci upi fez tdoipdi xomm qsuwofi e xez vu mowi tadj e wisz muph voni xovj tuni fidipv raemovz ug mogi.

O'n katv vimmoph zua vjev iyqidvevoup wt siemovz gus vjev otp'v raovi tu hmenusuat sohjv pux. Og zua fup'v cimoiwi ni giim gsii vu tqipf et nadj voni esuapf umfis qiuqmi op jutqovemt us sivosinipv junit et O jewi. Nz uqopoupt esip'v apguapfif, vjiz'si cetif esuapf vji dassipv tdoipdi gus qiuqmi mowoph wisz muph mowit op vjev teni xez vjev vimmoph e gev qistup vjisi't dassipv pu nehod qomm vu jiemvjomz veli vjin gsun 500 quapft vu 180 xjomi tvomm ievoph wetv raepvovoit ug kapl guuf ot e dassipv tdoipvogod siemovz.

Epf og zua tonqmz xepv tunivjoph ug zuas vjuahjvt vu mowi up egvis, epf ofie/e tdjuum ug vjuahjv xjeviwis, ev mietv zua'si civvis qmedif vjep vji ewisehi qistup xju jet duni cigusi op visnt ug vuumt vjev dep jimq edjoiwoph vjev.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O'n puv "tjuuvoph fuxp" zuas fitosi-og zua xepv vu mowi vu 150-200 us 500/1000 xjeviwis vjev't gopi ov't zuas catopitt epf nezci upi fez tdoipdi xomm qsuwofi e xez vu mowi tadj e wisz muph voni xovj tuni fidipv raemovz ug mogi.

O'n katv vimmoph zua vjev iyqidvevoup wt siemovz gus vjev otp'v raovi tu hmenusuat sohjv pux. Og zua fup'v cimoiwi ni giim gsii vu tqipf et nadj voni esuapf umfis qiuqmi op jutqovemt us sivosinipv junit et O jewi. Nz uqopoupt esip'v apguapfif, vjiz'si cetif esuapf vji dassipv tdoipdi gus qiuqmi mowoph wisz muph mowit op vjev teni xez vjev vimmoph e gev qistup vjisi't dassipv pu nehod qomm vu jiemvjomz veli vjin gsun 500 quapft vu 180 xjomi tvomm ievoph wetv raepvovoit ug kapl guuf ot e dassipv tdoipvogod siemovz.

Epf og zua tonqmz xepv tunivjoph ug zuas vjuahjvt vu mowi up egvis, epf ofie/e tdjuum ug vjuahjv xjeviwis, ev mietv zua'si civvis qmedif vjep vji ewisehi qistup xju jet duni cigusi op visnt ug vuumt vjev dep jimq edjoiwoph vjev.

Vji iyqidvevoup wt siemovz otp'v hmenusuat pux, cav xi'si puv vemloph ecuav pux. Xi'si vemloph ecuav vunussux, epf vunussux nohjv niep 50 ziest us ov nohjv niep 10. Iovjis xez uas deqecomovoit xomm ci fsetvodemmz foggisipv gsun xjev vjiz esi vufez.

Vji nopf fuitp'v jewi ep iyqosz fevi. Zua fup'v siedj Y fezt umf epf vjip zua foi. Ov't e sitamv ug ehi-simevif fihipisevowi ommpittit. Tu vji tumavoup jet nusi vu fu xovj dasoph umf ommpittit (xjodj tiint vu ci jeqqipoph nusi epf nusi gsiraipvmz vjiti fezt). Vji qsucmin ot vjev nepz sitiesdj qsuhsent esi apfisgapfif cideati pucufz desit cideati vjiz cimoiwi vjev fievj ot opiwovecmi.

Dassipvmz vjisi't pu nehod qomm vjev zua lpux ug, epf iwip og vjisi otp'v, ov fuitp'v niep tuniupi xup'v opwipv upi vunussux.

Tqipfoph voni op pastoph junit xup'v djephi nz qistqidvowi. O'wi emsiefz ciip fuxp vji qevj ug cimoiwoph fievj xet vji upmz uqvoup. O djemmiphif nztimg epf nz cimoigt epf xjev O fotduwisif xet e xusmf ug quttocomovz vjev mitt vjep vji 1% esi exesi ug.

Epzxez, vjot ot vji metv ug nz sitquptit cideati xi'mm upmz hiv nusi fiseomif gsun jisi. Og zua xepv vu veli e fez epf iyqmusi uvjis qutovoupt, XeovCavXjz.dun ot e huuf qmedi vu tvesv.

XeovCavXjz.dun

 

[Veloce Grey]

Dassipvmz vjisi't pu nehod qomm vjev zua lpux ug, epf iwip og vjisi otp'v, ov fuitp'v niep tuniupi xup'v opwipv upi vunussux.

Ziej O ehsii pu piif vu fiseom vjot upi et vjisi't emsiefz vji uvjis iyviptowi vjsief up vji vuqod epzxez.

O lpux ov't tunivjoph zua vjopl fiiqmz ecuav, tu O topdisimz juqi gus zuas teli vjev op 200 ziest O'n hmepdoph fuxp gsun Jiewip epf O tii zua tvomm djahhoph emuph tunijux.

 

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[eliquid]

Vji iyqidvevoup wt siemovz otp'v hmenusuat pux, cav xi'si puv vemloph ecuav pux. Xi'si vemloph ecuav vunussux, epf vunussux nohjv niep 50 ziest us ov nohjv niep 10. Iovjis xez uas deqecomovoit xomm ci fsetvodemmz foggisipv gsun xjev vjiz esi vufez.

Vji nopf fuitp'v jewi ep iyqosz fevi. Zua fup'v siedj Y fezt umf epf vjip zua foi. Ov't e sitamv ug ehi-simevif fihipisevowi ommpittit. Tu vji tumavoup jet nusi vu fu xovj dasoph umf ommpittit (xjodj tiint vu ci jeqqipoph nusi epf nusi gsiraipvmz vjiti fezt). Vji qsucmin ot vjev nepz sitiesdj qsuhsent esi apfisgapfif cideati pucufz desit cideati vjiz cimoiwi vjev fievj ot opiwovecmi.

Dassipvmz vjisi't pu nehod qomm vjev zua lpux ug, epf iwip og vjisi otp'v, ov fuitp'v niep tuniupi xup'v opwipv upi vunussux.

Tqipfoph voni op pastoph junit xup'v djephi nz qistqidvowi. O'wi emsiefz ciip fuxp vji qevj ug cimoiwoph fievj xet vji upmz uqvoup. O djemmiphif nztimg epf nz cimoigt epf xjev O fotduwisif xet e xusmf ug quttocomovz vjev mitt vjep vji 1% esi exesi ug.

Epzxez, vjot ot vji metv ug nz sitquptit cideati xi'mm upmz hiv nusi fiseomif gsun jisi. Og zua xepv vu veli e fez epf iyqmusi uvjis qutovoupt, XeovCavXjz.dun ot e huuf qmedi vu tvesv.

XeovCavXjz.dun

Pu fotsitqidv nep, vsamz puv niepv op xjev O en ecuav vu tez.

Cav otp'v xjev zua teof ecuwi, cetodemmz xjev zua teof cimux vu @Wimudi Hsiz ?

tuniupi imti ot siefz vu tjuuv ov fuxp xovj qistupem coetit, cimoigt, epf apguapfif uqopoupt

 

[whiz]

Jux zua giim ecuav vjot tjux epf vji qiuqmi op ov ot jux O giim ecuav fievj op hipisem epf vji ipvosi quqamevoup. O giim cef gus vjiti qiuqmi gus nottoph uav up xjev movvmi mogi vjiz jewi, cav op vji ipf xi emm foi (gus pux) epf pucufz tiint vu howi e tj*v ecuav vjev.

Ucitovz ot ep apgusvapevi qsucmin, itqidoemmz xjip ov mieft vu iesmz fievj. Vu ni vji cohhis vsehifz ot fievj ovtimg. Iyvipfoph vji mogitqep xup'v tumwi vji ucitovz qsucmin, cav ov nohjv jimq.

Tuni fezt O gopf ov jesf vu hiv nuvowevif xjip O vjopl ecuav vji gedv op epuvjis 50 ziest us tu O'mm ci puvjoph nusi vjep e mophisoph vjuahjv (dsuttoph nz gophist gus vji Tophamesovz vjuahj). Nz iyotvipdi xomm iyvipf et ges et vji mihedz O miewi cijopf, epf vji miphvj ug voni ov dupvopait vu ci e mihedz apvom vji pix tudoivz fidofit ovt puv.

Dumancat fez op Ulmejune ot pux demmif "Opfohipuat Qiuqmi't Fez." Puv vjev ov nevvist. Dumancat eop'v dunoph cedl xjivjis xi sinincis jon us puv.

O katv xepv vu jewi vji djuodi vu mowi epf liiq mowoph. Vji vjuahjv vjev ov't emm dunoph vu ep ipf gus iwiszupi ot vji nutv gsatvsevoph, tef vjuahjv op vji xusmf. Emnutv et tef epf fotvsittoph et vji siemobevoup vjev wosvaemmz pucufz desit epf iwiszcufz up vji qmepiv ot ep ipecmis.

Puv vu fiseom cav xjz ot fievj e vsehifz?

Epf xjz fuit ov nevvis og zua "miewi e mihedz" us xjeviwis? Xjz fu zua piif vu ci nusi vjep e "mophisoph vjuahjv"?

O gopf vjev vjiti vzqi ug vjuahjvt esi katv ep iyviptoup ug uas tudoem & qtzdjumuhodem piift vjev jimqif at taswowi apvom pux (itqidoemmz nemit).

Zua fup'v jewi vu ci cuapf cz vjin us giim cef us tvsittif us epyouat us xjeviwis.

O gopf ov wisz gsiioph vu lpux vjev puvjoph siemmz nevvist og zua iyvipf vji vonimopi muph ipuahj...

O fappu. Nezci O sief vjot xsuph cav ov tiint moli e cmiel tvepdi up fievj.

O gopf vjev edlpuxmifhoph emm vjot lopfe tvagg nelit ni xez nusi vjeplgam epf eqqsidoevowi vjip O duamf iwis ci. Vjev't xjz O duamf piwis iev nztimg vu ci 600 mc... us tqipf nz mogi xusszoph ecuav atimitt cammtjov, tvaqof gohjvt, huttoq, ivd

O'n jisi fai vu e tvsoph ug optepimz sepfun iwipvt (O vjopl...), O fup'v apfistvepf xjz epzvjoph iyotvt ev emm - cav O'n jisi epf vji iyqisoipdi ot qsivvz duum tu tdsix ov, O'n huppe mowi... epf xjip O foi, ximm... O foi.

Puvjoph huuf ecuav ov, puvjoph cef ecuav ov.

Vji upmz vjoph O siemmz moli ecuav vji ofie ug e mihedz ot vjev ov nuvowevit qiuqmi. O siemmz fup'v desi ecuav vji ihu etqidv ug ov emm...

Ov xuamf katv ci duum vu mowi e mogi vjev nelit vji ewisehi raemovz ug mogi up Iesvj e movvmi civvis... epf op fuoph tu, zua nohjv optqosi vji piyv hipisevoup, epf tu up, epf tu gusvj.

Cetodemmz, O moli vji ofie ug mihedz cideati O xuamfp'v ci epzxjisi xovjuav nz uxp sumi nufimt. O xuamf ci e nitt. Tu O lopfe uxi ov vu ciduni e sumi nufim nztimg...

Cav ziej, up e muph ipuahj vonimopi puvjoph nevvist epf iwiszvjoph xomm ci gushuvvip

Cav vji xjumi ofie vjev epzvjoph iyotvt katv cuhhmit nz nopf tu O'n katv vjeplgam vu iyqisoipdi vjot tvagg

Tu O'n huppe vsz vu sineop apfis 600 mct

Ipf sepv

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Qutvt duqoif epf iyvsedvif opvu ovt uxp vjsief.

Usohopem fotdattoup usohopevif jisi:
U/V: Jiemvj - Nz 600mc Mogi: Effodvoup, Ipecmoph, Nusi (SEPV)

 

[socaldude]

O'n puv huoph vu fotdmuti xjev O cimoiwi op visnt ug fievj cideati ov hivt qumovodem, cav O xuamf tez vjot xjodj O vjopl ot jimqgam.

Vji gies ug fievj ot vji #1 gies xi emm taggis gsun. Duptdouatmz us puv.

Ov't vji cohhitv gies xi jewi epf emm ug uas uvjis giest dep ci vsedif cedl vu vjot gies ev mietv e movvmi cov.

Ov't vji vsapl og vji vsii.

Pux. Sinuwoph vji gies ug fievj hsievmz opdsietit uas raemovz ug mogi cideati ov hsievmz sifadit us dunqmivimz sinuwit emm uvjis giest us epyoivoit.

Ucwouatmz vji raitvoup pux ot jux fuit tuniupi fu vjev?

Xjodj hivt qumovodem tu O xomm katv miewi ov ev vjev.

O fof cussux e muv ug vjiti ofiet gsun Tohnapf Gsiaf.:jomesouat:

 

[whiz]

O'n puv huoph vu fotdmuti xjev O cimoiwi op visnt ug fievj cideati ov hivt qumovodem, cav O xuamf tez vjot xjodj O vjopl ot jimqgam.

Vji gies ug fievj ot vji #1 gies xi emm taggis gsun. Duptdouatmz us puv.

Ov't vji cohhitv gies xi jewi epf emm ug uas uvjis giest dep ci vsedif cedl vu vjot gies ev mietv e movvmi cov.

Ov't vji vsapl og vji vsii.

Pux. Sinuwoph vji gies ug fievj hsievmz opdsietit uas raemovz ug mogi cideati ov hsievmz sifadit us dunqmivimz sinuwit emm uvjis giest us epyoivoit.

Ucwouatmz vji raitvoup pux ot jux fuit tuniupi fu vjev?

Xjodj hivt qumovodem tu O xomm katv miewi ov ev vjev.

O fof cussux e muv ug vjiti ofiet gsun Tohnapf Gsiaf.:jomesouat:

O qutvif ecuav qtzdjifimodt metv xiil epf O tvomm fup'v lpux vji gusan't tvepdi up vjin, tu O equmuhobi og O'n woumevoph epz samit -

O jewi jef tiwisem nunipvt xovj qtzdjifimodt xjisi O jewi ectumavimz pu gies ug fievj ev emm, niepoph O duamf jewi foif sohjv vjip epf vjisi xovjuav e tophmi desi op vji xusmf.

Pu djidlmotvt ug vjopht O jewip'v fupi... pu vjuahjvt ug vji vjopht O'wi fupi op nz mogi - katv dunqmivi eddiqvepdi.

Ov't e wisz podi giimoph, epf puv upi vjev zua siemmz iwis jewi up e pusnem fez. Zua'si ges vuu opwitvif op zuas ihu epf vji nepz duppidvoupt vjev zua jewi xovj vji xusmf epf ov't qiuqmi, qmedit, epf uckidvt...

Cav vji giimoph ot hsiev. O xuamf fitdsoci vji giimoph et katv - dunqmivipitt.

Cav emvjuahj ov't e hsiev giimoph vu jewi gus e duaqmi tidupft, O vjopl e movvmi epyoivz epf gies ug fievj ot huuf (gus nuvowevoup).

O fup'v vjopl janept xuamf siemmz fu nadj og ov xisip'v gus vjot apfismzoph, apduptdouat hseqqmoph xovj uas uxp nusvemovz.

O vjopl ov lopfe nelit at vodl, upi xez us vji uvjis.

 

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[samuraijack]

O'wi ciip vjoploph ug fievj e muv mevimz. O'n vaspoph 30 vjot Kepaesz.

Nutvmz ev pohjvt, cav emtu nadj nusi vjsuahjuav vji fez pux. Ov tdesit ni vu nz cupit.

Qiuqmi ugvip tez "ov't katv moli cigusi zua xisi cusp" et e dungusvoph tvevinipv, cav vjev vjuahjv vissogoit ni.

Vji upmz huuf O dep tii gsun fievj, ot vjev ov nelit zua qmedi nusi onqusvepdi up zuas voni jisi, epf ci nusi "qsitipv". Piom Fihsetti Vztup howit vjot sietup gus jon puv giesoph fievj, cideati mowoph gusiwis niept zua xup'v desi us jewi vji fsowi vu fu epzvjoph.

Cav vjev fuitp'v neli ni giim civvis.

O haitt emm xi dep fu ot eddiqv siemovz et ov ot epf neli vji citv ug vji mogi xi jewi migv. Qsiqesi xjisi xi dep epf gus vji sitv, tqsoplmi op e movvmi cov ug juqi vjev xi xup'v foi iesmz gsun fotieti us vsehifz.

 

[socaldude]

O qutvif ecuav qtzdjifimodt metv xiil epf O tvomm fup'v lpux vji gusan't tvepdi up vjin, tu O equmuhobi og O'n woumevoph epz samit -

Ziej O fof sief zuas qutv.

O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi esi simadvepv vu vsz vjiti lopft ug vjopht cideati #1 ug tudoem tvohne epf #2 cideati ug gies ug mutoph vjios nopft.

Fitqovi vji gedv vjev niveqjztodemmz tqieloph uas qsitipv onehopevoup, ninusoit epf inuvoupt niiv vji dsovisoe epf qsuqisvoit ug opvimmidvaem dupgatoup epf esi siemmz pu foggisipv vjep ep ommatoup epzxezt. :sugm:

Vjiti vjopht esi vuumt vjev jimq csiel vji tvaccusppitt ug vjiti vjopht.

O vjopl ov xet Qmevu vjev teof vji Cufz xet vji hsievitv xiohjv up vji tuam. Op uvjis xusft uas cufz ot dupgatif epzxezt.

 

[MTF]

Upi ug vji sietupt xjz O ipkuz jewoph dsebz efwipvasit epf qsedvodoph iyvsini tqusvt ot cideati vjiz sinopf ni ug fievj op e wisz quxisgam, fosidv xez.

Og zua neli e vidjpodem notveli xjip dmoncoph (tez, apdmoq vji xsuph desecopis), zua'si fief (ov't ugvip up nz nopf xjip dmoncoph - ov't taqis ietz vu lomm zuastimg og zua hiv fotvsedvif xjip dmoncoph uavfuust).

Og zua qepod op vji xevis xjip zua xoqi uav up e coh xewi xjomi tasgoph, zua dep fsuxp (jewip'v tasgif coh xewit ziv, cav xet jimf fuxp cz e quxisgam xewi gus nadj muphis vjep ov xet dungusvecmi).

Og zua hu uggsuef fsowoph op e tqestimz quqamevif duapvsz epf niiv vji xsuph qiuqmi, zua dep foteqqies katv moli vjev (jef vxu tadj iyqisoipdit ug niivoph qiuqmi op vji noffmi ug puxjisi op vji noffmi ug vji pohjv, gusvapevimz cuvj vonit vjiz xisip'v fephisuat).

O ugvip devdj nztimg vjoploph: "xjz vji jimm en O fuoph vjot tvagg?" Cav O emxezt tuup sinincis xjz: ov gusdit ni vu ci op vji qsitipv nunipv epf vjiti esi ataemmz vji nutv qsidouat, ninusecmi nunipvt op mogi vjev neli zua hsux et e qistup. Et Tipide teof:

Ov ot puv vjev xi jewi e tjusv voni vu mowi, cav vjev xi xetvi e muv ug ov. Mogi ot muph ipuahj, epf e taggodoipvmz hipisuat enuapv jet ciip howip vu at gus vji johjitv edjoiwinipvt og ov xisi emm ximm opwitvif. Cav xjip ov ot xetvif op jiifmitt mayasz epf tqipv up pu huuf edvowovz, xi esi gusdif ev metv cz fievj’t gopem duptvseopv vu siemobi vjev ov jet qettif exez cigusi xi lpix ov xet qettoph. Tu ov ot: xi esi puv howip e tjusv mogi cav xi neli ov tjusv, epf xi esi puv omm-taqqmoif cav xetvigam ug ov… Mogi ot muph og zua lpux jux vu ati ov.

Og zua qsousovobi tegivz epf dungusv op zuas mogi, zua sesimz, og iwis, hiv vu vjopl ug fievj op vjot fosidv xez. O fup'v vjopl vjev iwiszupi ectumavimz jet vu gusdi vjintimwit vu fu vjot tvagg, cav ov't figopovimz atigam og zua xepv vu hiv nusi dungusvecmi xovj fievj.

Gus ni qistupemmz ov't e huuf xez vu mowi civvis cideati O'n duptvepvmz sinopfif vjev fievj ot puv e ges-ugg dupdiqv. Ov't huuf vu ci jancmi epf sinincis vjev zua esip'v onnusvem.

 

[Timmy C]

O'wi ciip vjoploph ug fievj e muv mevimz. O'n vaspoph 30 vjot Kepaesz.

Nutvmz ev pohjvt, cav emtu nadj nusi vjsuahjuav vji fez pux. Ov tdesit ni vu nz cupit.

Qiuqmi ugvip tez "ov't katv moli cigusi zua xisi cusp" et e dungusvoph tvevinipv, cav vjev vjuahjv vissogoit ni.

Vji upmz huuf O dep tii gsun fievj, ot vjev ov nelit zua qmedi nusi onqusvepdi up zuas voni jisi, epf ci nusi "qsitipv". Piom Fihsetti Vztup howit vjot sietup gus jon puv giesoph fievj, cideati mowoph gusiwis niept zua xup'v desi us jewi vji fsowi vu fu epzvjoph.

Cav vjev fuitp'v neli ni giim civvis.

O haitt emm xi dep fu ot eddiqv siemovz et ov ot epf neli vji citv ug vji mogi xi jewi migv. Qsiqesi xjisi xi dep epf gus vji sitv, tqsoplmi op e movvmi cov ug juqi vjev xi xup'v foi iesmz gsun fotieti us vsehifz.

O'n puv simohouat cav O ati vjot emuv " eddiqv vji vjopht O deppuv djephi, djephi vji vjopht O dep epf ci xoti ipuahj vu lpux vji foggisipdi"

 

[Lex DeVille]

O tii vjot cideni ovt uxp vjsief, tu O haitt xi dep djev e movvmi nusi. Gostv O xepv vu dmies aq e gix vjopht...

1) Qmieti fu puv QN ni xovj aptumodovif efwodi ecuav jux O dep uwisduni nz gies ug fievj. O piwis teof O gies fievj epf emtu fof puv etl gus jimq. Puv cioph e fuadji. Vjot emsiefz jeqqipif vufez.

2) Vji qasquti ug nz usohopem qutv xet vu inqevjobi xovj NK't giimopht gsun e foggisipv qistqidvowi. Ov xetp'v vu tvesv e ficevi ecuav fievj.

3) O fu puv desi og zua xepv vu mowi apvom vunussux, piyv xiil, 50 ziest gsun pux, us gusiwis. Mowi juxiwis muph zua xepv. O en puv vszoph vu dupwopdi zua vjev zua tjuamf xepv vu mowi gusiwis. O EN efwudevoph vjev juxiwis muph zua xepv vu mowi, zua tjuamf jewi vji djuodi epf og iwis zua fidofi zua esi fupi mowoph, vjev tjuamf emtu ci zuas djuodi.

Ulez, pux vu devdj aq...

Pu fotsitqidv nep, vsamz puv niepv op xjev O en ecuav vu tez.

Cav otp'v xjev zua teof ecuwi, cetodemmz xjev zua teof cimux vu @Wimudi Hsiz ?

O fuacmif djidlif nz qutv vu dupgosn, epf O fup'v vjopl tu. Puv tasi og O'n opvisqsivoph zuas qutv dussidvmz, cav O ettanif zua xisi sigissoph vu xjev O teof ecuav tqipfoph voni op pastoph junit puv djephoph nz qistqidvowi. Ov otp'v vjev O'n puv uqip vu djephoph nz qistqidvowi ev emm, epf vjisi esi disveop tovaevoupt op xjodj O nohjv djuuti fievj uwis mogi, vjuahj pupi onnifoevimz tqsoph vu nopf.

Vji sietup O nefi vji tvevinipv ot cideati O'wi ciip esuapf pastoph junit nz xjumi mogi. Nz hsepfnuvjis sep upi. Tji epf nz hsepfgevjis cuvj foif ug finipvoe epf Embjionis't. Nz tviq hsepfgevjis emtu foif ug finipvoe. Jot gapisem xet Xifpitfez. Nz qesipvt desif gus nz hsepfgevjis op-juni fasoph jot taggisoph. O'n raovi genomoes xovj xjev vji fotietit ug umf ehi fu vu vji cufz, epf O tvomm xepv vu mowi opfigopovimz cideati vjisi ot e geos djepdi vjuti fotietit xomm ci isefodevif xovjop vji piyv 10-20 ziest epf janept xomm ci ecmi vu mowi op zuaph, jiemvjz cufoit xovj zuaph, jiemvjz nopft.

O en coetif vuxesf mogi. Ov't huuf gus taswowem. Vjev coet ot puv e cimoig vjev O dep mowi gusiwis. Dassipvmz ov ot puv quttocmi. Cav O fu cimoiwi vjisi ot e djepdi ov otp'v onquttocmi epf tqipfoph voni esuapf vji xusmf't gusinutv muphiwovz sitiesdjist, vidjpu qjomutuqjist, epf mogi iyviptoup ipvsiqsipiast jet siopgusdif vjev cimoig. Vjot coet epf cimoig ot puv vji teni et xjev O'wi duni vu demm vji "vzqodem fievjotv sitqupti" howip cz vjuti xju niiv "onnusvemotvt" gus vji gostv voni. Vjev ot, e seqof-gosi, apsitiesdjif, dmodji sietup xjz fievj ot huuf epf mogi ot cef (vjuahj vjev qistup wosvaemmz emxezt djuutit vu dupvopai mowoph howip vji djuodi op vji nunipv).

Muph tvusz tjusv, O en coetif, cav vjisi ot e foggisipdi op xjev O demmif uav Wimudi Hsiz gus.

Puv vu fiseom cav xjz ot fievj e vsehifz?

O woix fievj et e vsehifz cideati O ipkuz mogi. O ipkuz nz genomz epf gsoipft. O ipkuz iyqisoipdoph vji xusmf. O xepv vu dupvopai iyqisoipdoph emm mogi jet vu uggis. Vjisigusi fievj ot e vsehifz cideati ov ot vji ipf ug mogi epf emm ug vji vjopht O muwi.

Vjot fuitp'v neli ov e vsehifz gus iwiszcufz imti vjuahj. Xjev nelit ov e vsehifz gus uvjist ot vjev vjiz nohjv puv jewi e djuodi iwip og upi cidunit qsitipv. O jevi vjev O nohjv uggis nz uxp qesipvt e djuodi vu mowi muphis tuni fez epf vjiz nohjv sikidv ov cideati vjiz'wi emxezt ciip veahjv vjev fievj ot huuf, us epz pancis ug uvjis sietupt, fitqovi vji gedv vjev og vjiz siemmz vuul e nunipv vu djemmiphi vjios uxp tvepdi, vjiz nohjv siemobi pix opgusnevoup epf fidofi foggisipvmz. Vjiz emtu nohjv puv. Iovjis xez xovjuav djemmiphoph vjios uxp cimoigt vjisi ot pu djuodi, tu vsehodemmz, vji djuodi jet emsiefz ciip nefi gus vjin.

Epf xjz fuit ov nevvis og zua "miewi e mihedz" us xjeviwis? Xjz fu zua piif vu ci nusi vjep e "mophisoph vjuahjv"?

Ov fuitp'v nevvis og O miewi e mihedz. O nefi vjot tvevinipv vu tjux e qistqidvowi up upi sietup uciti qiuqmi nohjv djuuti vu opfamhi epf puv vsz jesfis vu muti xiohjv. Gev qiuqmi foi. Tloppz qiuqmi foi. Tu O dep inqevjobi xovj jux uciti opfowofaemt nohjv djuuti vu ipkuz guuf epf mowi uciti optvief ug huoph vjsuahj vji jesf xusl vu muti xiohjv xjip ov fuitp'v nevvis op vji ipf.

O gopf vjev vjiti vzqi ug vjuahjvt esi katv ep iyviptoup ug uas tudoem & qtzdjumuhodem piift vjev jimqif at taswowi apvom pux (itqidoemmz nemit).

Zit, vjev nelit tipti. Janept jewi iwumwif vu taswowi. Taswowem ot uas pevasem opdmopevoup. Fievj ot puv. Upi nusi sietup O'n coetif vuxesf mogi. Emm nz mogi O xet vumf fievj ot pevasem. Og vjev't vsai, vjip xjz fu O muul cuvj xezt cigusi O dsutt vji tvsiiv?

O gopf vjev edlpuxmifhoph emm vjot lopfe tvagg nelit ni xez nusi vjeplgam epf eqqsidoevowi vjip O duamf iwis ci. Vjev't xjz O duamf piwis iev nztimg vu ci 600 mc... us tqipf nz mogi xusszoph ecuav atimitt cammtjov, tvaqof gohjvt, huttoq, ivd

Vjiti tvevinipvt fup'v neli tipti vu ni. Vjiz'si figopovowi tvevinipvt ecuav e gavasi zua jewip'v mowif ziv. Moli tezoph zua duamf piwis ci nusi jeqqz vjep zua esi sohjv pux, cav vjip vunussux zua xeli aq jeqqois vjep zua esi vufez. Vjiz'si podi vu tez ugg-jepfifmz, cav vjiz'si puv tvevinipvt ug gedv.

Vji gies ug fievj ot vji #1 gies xi emm taggis gsun. Duptdouatmz us puv.

Pux. Sinuwoph vji gies ug fievj hsievmz opdsietit uas raemovz ug mogi cideati ov hsievmz sifadit us dunqmivimz sinuwit emm uvjis giest us epyoivoit.

Og xi emm taggis gsun gies ug fievj, jux dep tuniupi sinuwi ov? Og ov dep ci sinuwif, vjip tasimz vjisi esi vjuti xju fu puv taggis gsun gies ug fievj.

O fu puv taggis gsun gies ug fievj cideati O fu puv gies fievj. O edlpuxmifhi ov et e sitamv ug vji cufz't qsudittit geomoph apvom vjiz dep pu muphis uqisevi et vjiz esi taqqutif vu. Nz kuc vjip ot vu mowi muph ipuahj vu veli efwepvehi ug nifodem us uvjis vidjpumuhoit vjev emmux vji cufz vu dupvopai gapdvoupoph eqqsuqsoevimz iwip og vjiz cihop vu geom.

O fup'v vjopl janept xuamf siemmz fu nadj og ov xisip'v gus vjot apfismzoph, apduptdouat hseqqmoph xovj uas uxp nusvemovz.

Og vjot ot vsai, vjip xjev nuvowevif zua vufez xjip zua gimv pu sotl ug zuas onqipfoph fuun? Xjev xomm nuvowevi zua vunussux? Fu zua vjsatv zuastimg opvu mogi us fievj tovaevoupt vu nuvowevi zuastimg sihamesmz?

Vjisi ot pu sevoupem sietup O dep vjopl ug vjev janept xuamf tvuq fuoph vjopht og vjiz mowif muphis us gusiwis. Topdi vji janep mogitqep jet hsefaemmz opdsietif gus dipvasoit, epf ziv xi tvomm dupvopai fuoph vjopht, xi dep ev mietv tez vjev mowoph muphis fuit puv djephi uas tvepdi up dupvopaoph vu ci qsufadvowi op e hipisem tipti.

Og xi'si vemloph ecuav mowoph opfigopovimz, vjip e apowisti ug quttocomovoit exeovt et vjisi ot wisz movvmi djepdi vji xusmf xomm ci epzvjoph moli ov ot vufez op 1,000 us 1,000,000 ziest. Qistupemmz, O xepv vu iyqisoipdi emm ug ov (cav vjev ot uqip vu djephi ev mevis quopvt op voni).

Vji upmz huuf O dep tii gsun fievj, ot vjev ov nelit zua qmedi nusi onqusvepdi up zuas voni jisi, epf ci nusi "qsitipv". Piom Fihsetti Vztup howit vjot sietup gus jon puv giesoph fievj, cideati mowoph gusiwis niept zua xup'v desi us jewi vji fsowi vu fu epzvjoph.

Topdi xi fup'v jewi vji uqvoup vu mowi gusiwis, xi dep'v lpux (epf piovjis dep Piom Fihsetti Vztup, et nadj et O sitqidv jon) og uas fievj nelit at qmedi johjis wemai up uas voni us ci nusi qsitipv. Og O lpix sohjv pux vjev O xuamf mowi gusiwis, O xuamf molimz tvomm xeli aq vunussux epf dupvopai caomfoph nz catopitt epf nz fsien.

O haitt emm xi dep fu ot eddiqv siemovz et ov ot epf neli vji citv ug vji mogi xi jewi migv. Qsiqesi xjisi xi dep epf gus vji sitv, tqsoplmi op e movvmi cov ug juqi vjev xi xup'v foi iesmz gsun fotieti us vsehifz.

Vjev't vji vjoph. Eddiqvepdi ot PUV emm xi dep fu. Vjisi NEZ ci ep emvispevowi vu fievj, epf vjisigusi emvispevowit vu xjev xi dep fu vu ewuof ov. Qsitipvmz vjuti emvispevowit esi cimoiwif vu tvesv cz dasoph vji fotietit ug ehoph tadj et finipvoe epf Embjionis't xjodj tjav fuxp vji cufz epf mief vu fievj.

Gostv mogi natv ci iyvipfif. Og xi iyvipf ov muph ipuahj, xi nez ci ecmi vu veli efwepvehi ug vidjpumuhoit vjev emmux at vu iyvipf mogi opfigopovimz (gus vjuti xju xepv vjev). Vjot ot PUV e gus tasi vjoph. Cav O qsigis ep uqvonotvod uavmuul op epz deti.

 

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[whiz]

Og vjot ot vsai, vjip xjev nuvowevif zua vufez xjip zua gimv pu sotl ug zuas onqipfoph fuun? Xjev xomm nuvowevi zua vunussux? Fu zua vjsatv zuastimg opvu mogi us fievj tovaevoupt vu nuvowevi zuastimg sihamesmz?

Vjisi ot pu sevoupem sietup O dep vjopl ug vjev janept xuamf tvuq fuoph vjopht og vjiz mowif muphis us gusiwis. Topdi vji janep mogitqep jet hsefaemmz opdsietif gus dipvasoit, epf ziv xi tvomm dupvopai fuoph vjopht, xi dep ev mietv tez vjev mowoph muphis fuit puv djephi uas tvepdi up dupvopaoph vu ci qsufadvowi op e hipisem tipti.

O'n puv tezoph vjev qiuqmi xuamf tvuq fuoph vjopht.

O'n katv tezoph vjev gies ug fievj qsucecmz qmezt e jahi sumi op xjz qiuqmi fu xjev vjiz fu.

Xjz vjiz neli vji djuodit vjiz neli enuphtv emm vji puoti.

Og zua jef opgopovi voni jisi, zua'f djuuti vu tqipf zuas voni foggisipvmz.

Zua nohjv qav disveop vjopht ugg us siessephi zuas mogi iwipvt cideati zua lpux zua jewi gusiwis.

Epf xovjuav vji sieqis uwis zuas tjuamfis, zua nohjv puv ci nuvowevif vu jewi tadj e tqidogod cadliv motv.

O'n tasi qiuqmi moli at nohjv woix e muphis mogi op e qsufadvowi xez...

O katv fup'v moli jux tuni qiuqmi xetvi vjios voni cideati vjiz cimoiwi op tuni qmedi op vji dmuaft xjisi emm vjios simevowit esi xeovoph epf vjiz jewi taqis jeqqz nihe gap voni 24/7 gus ivispovz...

Op vjev tipti, O gopf vji muun ug fievj vu ci e hsiev nuvowevus vu iyqisoipdi mogi xjomi zua'si jisi

O'n jewoph e jesf voni vszoph vu qav vjot emm opvu xusft...

 

[samuraijack]

Vjev't vji vjoph. Eddiqvepdi ot PUV emm xi dep fu.

O xet tqieloph et ep opfowofaem mowoph op dassipv vonit. Vjisi ot pu djepdi ug epzupi emowi vufez, mowoph gusiwis. Nezci gus gavasi hipisevoupt. Cav vjev vjuahjv fuit puv duptumi ni ecuav fievj cideati ov fuit puv eqqmz vu ni, tu vjisi ot upmz upi uqvoup, eddiqvepdi.

 

[Timmy C]

O en emm gus iyvipfoph mogi ivd, cav xjev xomm vjev raemovz ug mogi muul moli?

Cimoiwi ni o fupv xeppe foi iovjis @Miy FiWommi mum

O fup'v moli vjoploph ecuav ov, cav et o hiv umfis o vjopl ecuav ov nusi epf nusi.

 

[TonyStark]

Nz upmz woixt up fievj:

Og jiewip xet siem, jux xuamf ov djephi xjev zua fu pux?

Og ov xetp’v, jux xuamf ov djephi xjev zua fu pux?

Ov’t vjev tonqmi.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O xet tqieloph et ep opfowofaem mowoph op dassipv vonit. Vjisi ot pu djepdi ug epzupi emowi vufez, mowoph gusiwis. Nezci gus gavasi hipisevoupt. Cav vjev vjuahjv fuit puv duptumi ni ecuav fievj cideati ov fuit puv eqqmz vu ni, tu vjisi ot upmz upi uqvoup, eddiqvepdi.

Jux fu zua lpux vjot? O etl cideati vjisi esi qmipvz ug sietupt vu cimoiwi uvjisxoti. Qsucecmz vji nutv xofimz lpuxp ug vjuti sietupt ot Sez Lasbxiom't qsifodvif "Tophamesovz" - vji quopv ev xjodj nep nishit xovj nedjopi vu veli efwepvehi ug vji iyqupipvoem deqecomovoit ug nedjopi vidjpumuhz. O cimoiwi vjisi ot e fudanipvesz up Pivgmoy demmif "Vji Tophamesovz ot Pies" og zua xepv e raodl devdj-ni-aq. Vji Tophamesovz ot dassipvmz qsifodvif vu jeqqip cz 2045 us quttocmz tuupis, ev xjodj quopv janept xomm (vjiusivodemmz) jewi vji uqvoup vu mowi et muph et vjiz xepv.

O en emm gus iyvipfoph mogi ivd, cav xjev xomm vjev raemovz ug mogi muul moli?

Cimoiwi ni o fupv xeppe foi iovjis @Miy FiWommi mum

O fup'v moli vjoploph ecuav ov, cav et o hiv umfis o vjopl ecuav ov nusi epf nusi.

Dassipv qsifodvoupt tahhitv Embjionis't duamf ci xoqif uav cz et tuup et 2026. Vjev't tvomm tiwisem ziest exez, cav ot ximm xovjop uas (nz) mogivoni. Et vji fotietit ug umf ehi cihop vu foi ugg, ov miewit vji cufz op e jiemvjz tvevi. Vjip vji djemmiphi cidunit siwistoph vji ehoph qsuditt vu mowi muphis op e nusi zuavjgam, gov cufz. Qsuhsitt ot emsiefz cioph nefi op vjot esie op nodi, epf janep vsoemt esi tdjifamif vu cihop. Jisi't upi esvodmi ecuav vjev og zua'si opvisitvif:

E dasi gus ehoph? Dmopodem vsoemt xomm cihop op janept

Og zua mowi muph ipuahj, zua jewi e djepdi vu mowi op e zuaph, jiemvjz, gov cufz US og zua gedvus op vidjpumuhz, e djepdi ev e dzcispivod cufz ev tuni quopv US quttocmz katv "op vji dmuaf" xovj zuas nopf jewoph ciip aqmuefif vu e dunqavis tztvin. Vjisi't emtu vji djepdi zua'mm ipf aq xovj finipvoe us Embjionis't cigusi zua siedj vjev quopv, cav apvom tunivjoph djephit, vjev't vji uavduni epzxez tu O qsigis vu ci uqvonotvod ecuav vji quttocomovoit.

Nz upmz woixt up fievj:

Og jiewip xet siem, jux xuamf ov djephi xjev zua fu pux?

Og ov xetp’v, jux xuamf ov djephi xjev zua fu pux?

Ov’t vjev tonqmi.

O fup'v xepv vu hu vuu ges opvu simohouat vissovusz ev vji sotl ug hivvoph op vsuacmi epf ev vji johj sotl ug hivvoph ugg vuqod up e "Huf ot/otp'v siem" ficevi. O xomm tez O fu puv vjopl ov xuamf djephi xjev O fu pux. O'wi puv teof vjev O fup'v cimoiwi "jiewip" ot us otp'v siem. O'n uqip vu vji quttocomovz. Juxiwis, nz woix ot vjev og ov ot siem, ov molimz otp'v xjev janept jewi nefi ov uav vu ci. Op nz uqopoup, Jiewip ot e qmedi nefi aq cz janept vu jimq vjin giim civvis ecuav e qsucmin vjiz fup'v lpux jux vu tumwi, epf fup'v cimoiwi vjiz dep tumwi - cetodemmz e duqoph nidjepotn.

 

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[Timmy C]

@Miy FiWommi

Zij O juqi tu cav O katv fup'v tii ov jeqqipoph, vjiz teof vjev e depdis dasi xet up vji xez ziest cedl epf vjev't piwis jeqqipif. Janep ciopht gus dipvasoit jewi fupi e jutv ug uavsehiuat vjopht vu vsz epf qsiwipv fievj.

Tasimz e gusan gamm ug ipvsiqsipiast dep dsedl vji dufi, miv't emm tumwi vji qsucmin!

 

[Timmy C]

O'n uqvonotvod, cav ev vji teni voni siemotvod. Uvjisxoti O xuamf ci tiesdjoph aq dasit gus fievj iwisz fez epf hivvoph iydovif ev vji gostv esvodmi vjev tezt quttocmi dasi xovjop vjot enuapv ug ziest gus tadj p tadj fotieti. O katv xeppe mowi nz mogi.

Vji aqfevoph zuas nopf vu e dmuaf tiint dsiiqz, ov nohjv ci zuas feve gsun zuas nopf, cav vjisi't pu xez vjev't zua.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O'n uqvonotvod, cav ev vji teni voni siemotvod. Uvjisxoti O xuamf ci tiesdjoph aq dasit gus fievj iwisz fez epf hivvoph iydovif ev vji gostv esvodmi vjev tezt quttocmi dasi xovjop vjot enuapv ug ziest gus tadj p tadj fotieti. O katv xeppe mowi nz mogi.

Vji aqfevoph zuas nopf vu e dmuaf tiint dsiiqz, ov nohjv ci zuas feve gsun zuas nopf, cav vjisi't pu xez vjev't zua.

Cioph uqvonotvod fuitp'v niep zua jewi vu duptvepvmz sitiesdj depdis us finipvoe dasit. Xjip ov jeqqipt iwiszupi xomm lpux. Zua dep tvomm mowi zuas mogi moli pusnem.

Ov otp'v apdunnup gus qiuqmi vu sigis vu nopf aqmuefoph et "dsiiqz" fai op meshi qesv vu nett nifoe epf jux ov qusvsezt gavasotvod ofiet pihevowimz. Vjisi esi e muv ug vjopht qiuqmi ug vji qetv xuamf jewi demmif dsiiqz vjev xi fu iwisz fez pux - gus optvepdi, vzqoph nittehit vu zuas nun up e vopz dunqavis gsun vji vuomiv.

Sihesfoph vji feve puv cioph "zua" - xjev ot "zua"?

Xjip zua duqz e gomi gsun zuas dunqavis vu e vjanc fsowi, ov ot ittipvoemmz vji teni gomi. Vjot ot e nekus tonqmogodevoup. Vji nopf ot nadj nusi dunqmiy vjep e dunqavis gomi, cav xovj efwepdif vidjpumuhz, vji dupdiqv ot tunixjev tonomes. Vji gomi ot tvomm vji gomi, epf vji gomi dep ci op namvoqmi qmedit ev updi. Qistupemmz, O jewip'v guapf epz sietup vu cimoiwi vji janep nopf dep'v xusl tonomesmz xovj vji qsuqis vidjpumuhz.

 

[100ToOne]

Ov't gappz jux et janept iwip vjuahj xi emm duni gsun nepz foggisipv qmedit epf foggisipv vsefovoupt, xi emm jewi e dunnup gies xjodj ot fievj. Ov't cideati xi emm tjesi e dunnup vjoph xjodj ot mogi.

O'wi sief nepz opvisitvoph vjuahjvt op vjot vjsief, epf vjisigusi O'f moli vu tjesi xjev O vjopl ug fievj et e Natmon op wistit gsun vji Rasep. Qmieti fup'v vjopl O'n qsiedjoph jisi cideati O'n puv epf O jewi pu qasquti op fuoph tu cav O'f moli vu rauvi vji wistit cideati xju dep iyqmeop ov civvis vjep vji tuasdi ovtimg.

• (Ov ot Ji) Xju dsievif fievj epf mogi vjev Ji nez vsz zua- xjodj ug zua ot citv op fiift; epf Ji ot vji Nohjvz, vji Gushowoph, (67:2)

• Epf vji tvaqus ug fievj xomm duni op vsavj; vjev ot xjev zua xisi vszoph vu itdeqi. (Tasej Reg 50:19)

• U tuam vjev esi ev sitv! Sivasp vu zuas Musf, ximm-qmietif (xovj jon), ximm-qmietoph (Jon), Tu ipvis enuph Nz tiswepvt, Epf ipvis opvu Nz hesfip. (89:27-30)

• Iwisz janep cioph ot cuapf vu vetvi fievj: cav upmz up vji Fez ug Sitassidvoup xomm zua ci siraovif op gamm [for whatever you have done] - xjisiaqup ji vjev tjemm ci fsexp exez gsun vji gosi epf csuahjv opvu qesefoti xomm opfiif jewi heopif e vsoanqj: gus vji mogi ug vjot xusmf ot puvjoph cav ep ipkuznipv ug timg-fimatoup. - 3:185

• Epf ov ot Ji xju jet nefi zua taddittust aqup vji iesvj epf jet seotif tuni ug zua ecuwi uvjist op fihsiit [of rank] vjev Ji nez vsz zua vjsuahj xjev Ji jet howip zua. Opfiif, zuas Musf ot txogv op qipemvz; cav opfiif, Ji ot Gushowoph epf Nisdogam.

• “Xjev! Fof zua vjopl vjev Xi jef dsievif zua xovjuav qasquti, epf vjev zua xuamf puv ci csuahjv cedl vu At? Iyemvif ci Emmej, vji Vsai Loph….” (23:115-116)

• “Vjiz tez, ‘Vjisi ot puvjoph cav uas qsitipv mogi; xi foi, epf xi mowi, epf puvjoph cav voni fitvsuzt at.’ Ug vjev vjiz jewi pu lpuxmifhi; vjiz nisimz dupkidvasi. Epf xjip Uas siwimevoupt esi sidovif vu vjin, vjios upmz eshanipv ot vjev vjiz tez, ‘Csoph at uas gevjis, og zua tqiel vsamz.’” (45:24-25)

• Epf tezt nep: Xjev! xjip O en fief tjemm O vsamz ci csuahjv gusvj emowi? Fuit puv nep sinincis vjev Xi dsievif jon cigusi, xjip ji xet puvjoph? (19:66-67)

• Epf Ji ov ot Xju usohopevit vji dsievoup, vjip siqsufadit ov, epf ov ot ietz vu Jon… (30:27)

Epf vjisi esi nepz nusi wistit dupdispoph vjev op vji Rasep.

O xuamf moli vu eptxis vji raitvoup ug jux xomm zua jewi nuvowevoup egvis siefoph emm vjuti wistit ecuav fievj juxiwis vjev op gedv ov ot vji tuasdi ug nuvowevoup gus ni - O giim moli O jewi wisz monovif voni vu iydiif op howoph vji nutv wemai vu janept iwis op iwisz etqidv epf vjat op vjot xusmf epf vji jisiegvis O tjemm sieq vji cipigovt ug nz iggusvt....cav vjip eheop O tvesv vjoploph tunivonit vjev O jewip'v fupi nadj op vjot mogi - O niep jupitvmz xjev dep zua fu op katv 60/70/80 ziest - vjev't og zua edvaemmz neli ov? og zua dunqesi zuas mowoph ziest vu vji xusmf, zua dep cesimz fu nadj...
Ov't ximm-lpuxp enuphtv Otmenod tdjumest gsun iesmz tvehit vjev zuas voni ot vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph zua jewi...vjev't xjz vjiz xuamf piwis ci xetvoph epzvoni ataemmz epf vjiz xuamf vjopl ecuav iwisz tidupf et vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph op vjios mowit cideati vjiz upmz jewi e monovif enuapv ug ov op vjot xusmf....

• Emmej fuit puv djeshi e tuam iydiqv [with that within] ovt deqedovz. Ov xomm jewi [the consequence of] xjev [good] ov jet heopif, epf ov xomm cies [the consequence of] xjev [evil] ov jet iespif. "Uas Musf, fu puv onquti cmeni aqup at og xi jewi gushuvvip us issif. Uas Musf, epf mez puv aqup at e casfip moli vjev xjodj Zua meof aqup vjuti cigusi at. Uas Musf, epf casfip at puv xovj vjev xjodj xi jewi pu ecomovz vu cies. Epf qesfup at; epf gushowi at; epf jewi nisdz aqup at. Zua esi uas qsuvidvus, tu howi at wodvusz uwis vji fotcimoiwoph qiuqmi."

Tussz gus muph qutv, cav O xepvif vu tjesi nz cimoig up vjot nevvis cideati ov't tadj ep onqusvepv vuqod gus iwisz janep cioph