30 Day Depression Routine

[Kevinn]

I've been trying to spend less time on my computer/phone which means this forum as well. I've been keeping up with cold showers and I've increased my workout load and intensity when weightlifting. I've changed my running everyday routine to longer runs but more spread out. Diet's been doing well as I'm trying to cook my own meals now.

Sleep is still pretty shoddy. Not waking up at 7am but I'm still getting 8 hours.

Haven't really done much for my detailing business. I have a few bookings here and there but not really improving. I was talking with my brother and he mentioned a business idea that has some potential. I'll be on vacation for a month so it'll probably be put on hold till I come back. When we get back we're probably gonna talk to a manufacturer and see if our idea is possible and what not.

 

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[pmusu]

Good to hear from you. Your health, both mental and physical, is your life's foundation. This means that even if you are not working directly on your business, in a way you are.

Enjoy your time off the screen and your vacations. Life is about seasons.

 

[Matt Sun]

Bump. How are you guys doing ? Been on and off having very negative thoughts / feelings. Sometimes feels like a solid ball of bitterness in the space between my chest and my stomach. Had desired my own death, images of ways to do it appear on my head. It's not good, lately I wish I had one whole week without this happening.

Since my ecommerce died a couple of years after covid, haven't been able to launch anything. It has really depressed me, plus I moved to a new country without any friends. No money so I don't even try to get a girlfriend.

I know I have to keep trying and I do it but sometimes I just feel totally hopeless and I hate myself for getting me on this situation and just wish for the worst.

 

[piano]

Had desired my own death, images of ways to do it appear on my head. It's not good

I agree, it's not good.

What were your mistakes or incidents that led you to this place?
What are the things you'd need to do to get to a decent point again?
Write them down, a whole rough plan.
Probably start on the income part, etc.

I'm personally also not in a good headspace currently, but I try to keep going somehow.
I know that good things will await me eventually if I continue trying.

odd but maybe still useful tip: Do you own a console? Get yourself Dark Souls or Bloodborne. Playing through one of these might help you in a way you didn't think it would.

Good luck!

 

[Johnny boy]

Why do you need to be happy?

I don't feel great today.

I'm wearing the same clothes from yesterday.

I stayed up working until 6am.

I'm back to work again today. I haven't spoken to any friends in weeks.

And y'all are giving advice talking about adding this, adding that, playing F*cking video games lmao, NGMI.

It's about taking away. Remove everything else. Delete the apps, stop talking to 99% of people, cut out the time wastes, just go get your shit done and stop worrying about being happy.

You're not depressed, you're just soft. I am not extremely happy right now but it's not a problem. Your problem is labeling things a problem.

Haven't really done much for my detailing business.

Yeah, see what I mean?

It feels super good to take a cold shower, red light therapy, meditation and journaling, mindfulness and introspection, affirmations, working on yourself, blah blah stfu.

What's on the to-do list?

When you just smash things and make real progress, you will feel good by accident.

This is a competitive world. You will have enemies and people who want to take what you have. They want to rob you, lie to you, steal your girl, trick you into being their slave, etc. And you're going to let YOUR OWN MIND be against you? LMAO. You are destined to fail if even YOU are not on your side. It's hard enough having no one truly on your side, and not even your own mind is on your side. Absolutely cooked lol.

You and me are in business. It may not feel like it but you are competing against me.

You are thinking about how not to be sad.

I am thinking about how to get more customers, be more profitable, take everything from you and put you out of business so you'll be even more sad.

 

[markspray]

Why do you need to be happy?

I don't feel great today.

I'm wearing the same clothes from yesterday.

I stayed up working until 6am.

I'm back to work again today. I haven't spoken to any friends in weeks.

And y'all are giving advice talking about adding this, adding that, playing F*cking video games lmao, NGMI.

It's about taking away. Remove everything else. Delete the apps, stop talking to 99% of people, cut out the time wastes, just go get your shit done and stop worrying about being happy.

You're not depressed, you're just soft. I am not extremely happy right now but it's not a problem. Your problem is labeling things a problem.



Yeah, see what I mean?

It feels super good to take a cold shower, red light therapy, meditation and journaling, mindfulness and introspection, affirmations, working on yourself, blah blah stfu.

What's on the to-do list?

When you just smash things and make real progress, you will feel good by accident.

This is a competitive world. You will have enemies and people who want to take what you have. They want to rob you, lie to you, steal your girl, trick you into being their slave, etc. And you're going to let YOUR OWN MIND be against you? LMAO. You are destined to fail if even YOU are not on your side. It's hard enough having no one truly on your side, and not even your own mind is on your side. Absolutely cooked lol.

You and me are in business. It may not feel like it but you are competing against me.

You are thinking about how not to be sad.

I am thinking about how to get more customers, be more profitable, take everything from you and put you out of business so you'll be even more sad.

This is the gold here, you got to get busy.

I wasted way to much time delaying ..... the action and it just got me more depressed for years.

Your mind has too much time on its hand and it just eats away at you.
Ever watched those Alone survival tv shows, all of them start to go nuts after a while just them and their thoughts.

Man when like today i wake up and its the start of the month and its revenue start all over, im like sh*t I'm starting to feel down. Like my family needs me to come through so we can get our house, will the rental renew in a couple of months, oh sh*t im not good enough.

I think dang Im awake, i get to see my family, what else am I one happy grateful bastard for as right now I could be in a 3rd world country and not be able to roll out of my bed, sit in front of my computer and make money.

F*ck lifes good i can do this, time to get some wins, as when I get those wins i feel awesome, and I get busy.

Screw ice baths, meditation, etc as I'm loosing hours I need to get busy and make the magic happen as damn when I close a deal that feels so good i want more.

 

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[fatherj23]

Self Help Mindset vs Get Sh*t Done

This online self help world has turned people into dogs chasing their own tails.

Always some new “hack”.

Won’t be long until someone starts selling drinking your own urine as the key to ultimate success.

 

[Matt Sun]

Why do you need to be happy?

I don't feel great today.

I'm wearing the same clothes from yesterday.

I stayed up working until 6am.

I'm back to work again today. I haven't spoken to any friends in weeks.

And y'all are giving advice talking about adding this, adding that, playing F*cking video games lmao, NGMI.

It's about taking away. Remove everything else. Delete the apps, stop talking to 99% of people, cut out the time wastes, just go get your shit done and stop worrying about being happy.

You're not depressed, you're just soft. I am not extremely happy right now but it's not a problem. Your problem is labeling things a problem.



Yeah, see what I mean?

It feels super good to take a cold shower, red light therapy, meditation and journaling, mindfulness and introspection, affirmations, working on yourself, blah blah stfu.

What's on the to-do list?

When you just smash things and make real progress, you will feel good by accident.

This is a competitive world. You will have enemies and people who want to take what you have. They want to rob you, lie to you, steal your girl, trick you into being their slave, etc. And you're going to let YOUR OWN MIND be against you? LMAO. You are destined to fail if even YOU are not on your side. It's hard enough having no one truly on your side, and not even your own mind is on your side. Absolutely cooked lol.

You and me are in business. It may not feel like it but you are competing against me.

You are thinking about how not to be sad.

I am thinking about how to get more customers, be more profitable, take everything from you and put you out of business so you'll be even more sad.

It's 7 am and I decided to forget anything my mind says and just do what stranger on the internet Johnny Boy says.

I will hit the gym, code my app and do my shitty job. I will keep going.

 

[rjdgreat]

I am currently experiencing depression or spirit of heaviness because of my sinful nature.
Life is spiritual so I'll drop some bible verse for overcoming depression or spirit of heaviness.

Isaiah 61:3 KJV
To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.

Being grateful to our creator is a key for overcoming depression or spirit of heaviness.

And for sleep and diet here's a bible verse for it.

Sirach 31:20
Sound sleep cometh of moderate eating: he riseth early, and his wits are with him: but the pain of watching, and choler, and pangs of the belly, are with an unsatiable man.


I did the same thing how @heavy_industry tried to overcome depression and in my experience what I can say is that we should just focus on the fundamentals which is SLEEP, EXERCISE, DIET, AND BUSINESS.

To God be the Glory.

 

[goldminer]

I've been going through it lately. Burnt bridges with friends. Ghosted by the girl I was talking to for months.

Stumbled upon @heavy_industry Conquering Depression post. Figured why not do the same.

Things I want to focus on:

• Sleep
  • Good quality 8 hours
  • Optimize sleep enviroment (No blue light, etc)
  • Waking up at 7am
• Exercise/Fitness/Diet
  • Weightlifting
  • Trying to get visible abs. Need to lose ~5lbs? TDEE is roughly 1900.
  • Morning Run or Walk
• Cold Showers (Just tried one my GOD do they make you feel amazing)
• No mindless entertainment. Things like Instagram and short YouTube videos I'll cutout. Every now and then I'll enjoy a movie or an informative YouTube videos or two.
• Meditation/Journaling

Might add more habits as I go on. I'll keep you guys updated.

I have had a similar Experience

i have tired many things

these are the things that have worked

1. exercising alone is difficult (to convince yourself to do 30 pushups a day ), that's why going to the gym works

2. curing phone addiction is - the only way i have found is to use a dumb phone (keypad ones). and do my work on PC
(everything i can do on my phone i can do it on my PC too)

3. Having 1 hours time block for important notifications and emails everyday

4. journal you day for a week down to each minute details and later review it ( gets you a birds eye view on your time )

5. Invest in your sleep rake the benefits later

6. work is not everything - try different hobbies to keep you away from creative block

 

[heavy_industry]

Bump. How are you guys doing ?

Extraordinarily well.

By the grace of God, I have nearly healed from this debilitating illness.

It took over 2 years of heavy metabolic training, extreme dieting, and fasting, but now my mitochondria are beaming with energy and my brain is back online.

Now I have near limitless energy, drive, motivation, focus, etc. I feel like I'm 18 again - just a little bit wiser.

I am thinking of writing a thread later this year, describing the strategy and process that I used to heal.

Why do you need to be happy?

It has nothing to do with being happy or sad.

This condition is very poorly understood, even by "the experts", and most people fall into one of two camps:

• Depression is a psychological issue and you need to think happy thoughts.
• Depression is a "chemical imbalance" - whatever the F*cking hell that means - and you need to take pills to fix it.

Both of these are complete bullshit and don't even scratch the surface of the pathophysiology of depression.

Depression - real depression - is a disruption in the production and utilization of energy by the brain. This is modulated by tiny organelles in the cells called mitochondria.

If the mitochondria accumulate enough damage, it will eventually get to the point where the brain does not have sufficient energy to execute its normal physiological functions.

That's when the "mental health" symptoms begin.

That's when everybody screws up, labeling this metabolic disease as a "mental health issue".

 

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[Matt Sun]

Extraordinarily well.

By the grace of God, I have nearly healed from this debilitating illness.

It took over 2 years of heavy metabolic training, extreme dieting, and fasting, but now my mitochondria are beaming with energy and my brain is back online.

Now I have near limitless energy, drive, motivation, focus, etc. I feel like I'm 18 again - just a little bit wiser.

I am thinking of writing a thread later this year, describing the strategy and process that I used to heal.


It has nothing to do with being happy or sad.

This condition is very poorly understood, even by "the experts", and most people fall into one of two camps:

• Depression is a psychological issue and you need to think happy thoughts.
• Depression is a "chemical imbalance" - whatever the F*cking hell that means - and you need to take pills to fix it.

Both of these are complete bullshit and don't even scratch the surface of the pathophysiology of depression.

Depression - real depression - is a disruption in the production and utilization of energy by the brain. This is modulated by tiny organelles in the cells called mitochondria.

If the mitochondria accumulate enough damage, it will eventually get to the point where the brain does not have sufficient energy to execute its normal physiological functions.

That's when the "mental health" symptoms begin.

That's when everybody screws up, labeling this metabolic disease as a "mental health issue".

I'm glad to hear that man.

I was wondering today about this mechanism, that something that says "hey, you should just end your own life". As an evolutionary thing doesn't really make that much sense. Maybe it's a trigger to make a radical change, I don't know. I felt like shit today at times, still I got things done and advanced on creating my new sass product. I will apply Johnny's advice, if I don't really want to live, then I will just work not wanting to live, it doesn't matter. Perhaps after a while things will improve.

 

[Johnny boy]

Extraordinarily well.

By the grace of God, I have nearly healed from this debilitating illness.

It took over 2 years of heavy metabolic training, extreme dieting, and fasting, but now my mitochondria are beaming with energy and my brain is back online.

Now I have near limitless energy, drive, motivation, focus, etc. I feel like I'm 18 again - just a little bit wiser.

I am thinking of writing a thread later this year, describing the strategy and process that I used to heal.


It has nothing to do with being happy or sad.

This condition is very poorly understood, even by "the experts", and most people fall into one of two camps:

• Depression is a psychological issue and you need to think happy thoughts.
• Depression is a "chemical imbalance" - whatever the F*cking hell that means - and you need to take pills to fix it.

Both of these are complete bullshit and don't even scratch the surface of the pathophysiology of depression.

Depression - real depression - is a disruption in the production and utilization of energy by the brain. This is modulated by tiny organelles in the cells called mitochondria.

If the mitochondria accumulate enough damage, it will eventually get to the point where the brain does not have sufficient energy to execute its normal physiological functions.

That's when the "mental health" symptoms begin.

That's when everybody screws up, labeling this metabolic disease as a "mental health issue".

Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

 

[OverByte]

I posted earlier in this thread that sleeping 6.5-7 hours felt a lot better to me than 8. i dont see this talked about a lot but recently found out that sleep deprivation is actually a treatment for depression with some solid studies behind it. Not recommending that but i think it's an interesting data point. I do think quality sleep is important but i also wonder if the recent guru focus on sleep, oura trackers, etc have people sleeping more than necessary. One symptom of depression is sleeping in a lot and it may actually be reinforcing the depression. I consistently feel more energetic and improved mood with less sleep. Probably not for everyone but maybe it will help someone who feels they tried all the obvious ones.

 

[redemption89234]

I've been going through it lately. Burnt bridges with friends. Ghosted by the girl I was talking to for months.

Stumbled upon @heavy_industry Conquering Depression post. Figured why not do the same.

Things I want to focus on:

• Sleep
  • Good quality 8 hours
  • Optimize sleep enviroment (No blue light, etc)
  • Waking up at 7am
• Exercise/Fitness/Diet
  • Weightlifting
  • Trying to get visible abs. Need to lose ~5lbs? TDEE is roughly 1900.
  • Morning Run or Walk
• Cold Showers (Just tried one my GOD do they make you feel amazing)
• No mindless entertainment. Things like Instagram and short YouTube videos I'll cutout. Every now and then I'll enjoy a movie or an informative YouTube videos or two.
• Meditation/Journaling

Might add more habits as I go on. I'll keep you guys updated.

addng to this list. I have a bad habit of doom scrolling in bed. Nada. Zip. No more.

 

[StrikingViper69]

addng to this list. I have a bad habit of doom scrolling in bed. Nada. Zip. No more.

Epic fantasy novels beat bedtime room scrolling

 

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[redemption89234]

Epic fantasy novels beat bedtime room scrolling

or just doing shit. I dont even like reading anymore unless its productive

 

[EngineerThis]

I'm glad to hear that man.

I was wondering today about this mechanism, that something that says "hey, you should just end your own life". As an evolutionary thing doesn't really make that much sense.

It's a spiritual thing, Christians refer to these thoughts as words from the "Enemy". These thoughts are not your own, and you do not have to listen to them. It has nothing to do with "evolution" it has everything to do with the "Enemy" turning God's creation (You) against him (God). No better way to stick it, than to convince the 'created' that he is ungrateful for the life that god gave him.

 

[BellaPippin]

Bump. How are you guys doing ? Been on and off having very negative thoughts / feelings. Sometimes feels like a solid ball of bitterness in the space between my chest and my stomach. Had desired my own death, images of ways to do it appear on my head. It's not good, lately I wish I had one whole week without this happening.

Since my ecommerce died a couple of years after covid, haven't been able to launch anything. It has really depressed me, plus I moved to a new country without any friends. No money so I don't even try to get a girlfriend.

I know I have to keep trying and I do it but sometimes I just feel totally hopeless and I hate myself for getting me on this situation and just wish for the worst.

Yoooo where u at rn. Are you from Argentina or moved to Argentina? I'm from Argentina living in the US. DM me if you wanna chat, I've been thru the ringer mental-health wise as well. lol

 

[Matt Sun]

Yoooo where u at rn. Are you from Argentina or moved to Argentina? I'm from Argentina living in the US. DM me if you wanna chat, I've been thru the ringer mental-health wise as well. lol

Went from the hottest part of Argentina to one of the coldest parts of Europe (Denmark), perhaps not a great idea for mood lol.

I don't know if I had a good day today or what but this idea of just work and don't pay attention to the horrible thoughts it's kinda working maybe. Shitty thoughts still come but I don't give them attention and just say F*ck it let's go and keep going. Perhaps this will work, hopefully.

 

[Lou7]

I've been going through it lately. Burnt bridges with friends. Ghosted by the girl I was talking to for months.

Stumbled upon @heavy_industry Conquering Depression post. Figured why not do the same.

Things I want to focus on:

• Sleep
  • Good quality 8 hours
  • Optimize sleep enviroment (No blue light, etc)
  • Waking up at 7am
• Exercise/Fitness/Diet
  • Weightlifting
  • Trying to get visible abs. Need to lose ~5lbs? TDEE is roughly 1900.
  • Morning Run or Walk
• Cold Showers (Just tried one my GOD do they make you feel amazing)
• No mindless entertainment. Things like Instagram and short YouTube videos I'll cutout. Every now and then I'll enjoy a movie or an informative YouTube videos or two.
• Meditation/Journaling

Might add more habits as I go on. I'll keep you guys updated.

all these things help. but remember to seek professional help (psychologist is my recommendation). Been there

You have to uncover the root cause of the depression. You do this by knowing yourself better. the psychologist helps with this process

 

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[heavy_industry]

Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

Yes, energy production is one of its functions.

I was wondering today about this mechanism, that something that says "hey, you should just end your own life". As an evolutionary thing doesn't really make that much sense.

It makes perfect evolutionary sense.

If you have inflammation in your body, it means that you either have an infectious disease (that can be spread to others) or have been mauled by a F*cking animal and you have broken bones.

Either way, the best course of action is to lie down and do nothing until you recover.


If the issue persists chronically, your body will shut down to prevent an unhealthy individual from reproducing and spreading defective genes.

Suicidal ideation may stem from the instinctive feeling that you're a burden to the rest of the tribe and you're a liability, instead of an asset.

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What doesn't make "evolutionary sense" is that modern life has progressed too fast for our bodies to adapt to the new environment. While the pathophysiology of depression used to be an evolutionary advantage hundreds of thousands of years ago, today, it is the leading cause of disability worldwide and is no longer useful.

Another example of an obsolete relic from the past is the instinct to eat as much food as you F*cking can, because back then you never knew when your next meal is going to be. Pair this with the brain's response to sweet taste and you have the modern obesity epidemic.

 

[Supa]

Depression, and many other so-called "disorders" are not disorders at all. There is not something wrong with you or your mental health if you show symptoms of one of these "disorders".

They are ways of our psyche and our bodies to protect us.

Once you stop to look at depression as something to be fought against, as an enemy, you can start seeing it as an ally. As a well-intentioned attempt of protecting you.

If instead of asking "how can I get rid of this?" you start to ask yourself kinder questions like "what may this be protecting me from?" and be open to the possibility of this being a well-intentioned strategy by your psyche and body to help you, then you may start to get a sense of something it might be protecting you from.

For example, what might be the advantage of not feeling your emotions much? Of being numb? What might your psyche and body help you to prevent by staying in bed all day and not having the energy to get up? What reasons might your body have to react in this way? May it be its emergency break?

Most things that are considered mental-health are more about our psyche and our body, together and not in isolation.

Once you can stop fighting against your own psyche and body that is trying to help you, you can start to look at what makes your psyche and body react in this way, and then start to work with your psyche and body, instead of against them.

Depression is not a "disorder" that needs to be fixed. It's a clever and intelligent strategy by your psyche and body to protect you. Starting to treat depression as what it is is also the start of your journey of discovering what leads to your psyche and body reacting in this way, and to heal that.

 

[Nevah Lucky]

I've been going through it lately. Burnt bridges with friends. Ghosted by the girl I was talking to for months.

Stumbled upon @heavy_industry Conquering Depression post. Figured why not do the same.

Things I want to focus on:

• Sleep
  • Good quality 8 hours
  • Optimize sleep enviroment (No blue light, etc)
  • Waking up at 7am
• Exercise/Fitness/Diet
  • Weightlifting
  • Trying to get visible abs. Need to lose ~5lbs? TDEE is roughly 1900.
  • Morning Run or Walk
• Cold Showers (Just tried one my GOD do they make you feel amazing)
• No mindless entertainment. Things like Instagram and short YouTube videos I'll cutout. Every now and then I'll enjoy a movie or an informative YouTube videos or two.
• Meditation/Journaling

Might add more habits as I go on. I'll keep you guys updated.

Love the rest but I adore having a hot shower. It’s when my neurons start firing the fastest. I can’t wait to see you conquer your inner demons. Keep up the consistency.