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HELP! ONLY GOT 3 MONTHS TO MAKE IT. WHAT SHOULD I DO?

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You may not want to do the cleaning business long-term, but you've already got a good start on it. I would say just hustle over these next few months. If you can't afford ads, then use your time to go find business. Go knock on doors. It's not glamorous, but I bet if you went out and spent 8 hours a day knocking on doors instead of at some low-paying job, you'll be in a position to be on your own in 3 months. Since you already have operations automated, your focus should be on getting more customers. That's the only thing stopping that $1k from being $10k.
 
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Here's some ideas because I was just in this situation a year ago.

First of all you are telling us your side of the story. I don't think any parent is so unreasonable that they would just kick you out for no reason at all. If you're still living with your parents past 18 you have to pull your own weight.

Who's car were you using to do all the chores? If it was your dad than it's only fair that he got mad. Also did you keep up with the car's maintenance? Did you buy and change the oil? Filled up the gas tank? I know a lot of kids that use their car parents do none of that shit. They just let the car rot and not fill up the gas tank. Also were you paying your share of the rent, bills and food? Maybe if you talk to your dad and tell him that you are willing a cut of the bills and food he might let you back in the house.

You also mentioned that you blew all your money in Vegas no wonder your dad is angry at you. I was in the same boat two years ago. Living with your parents makes you very irresponsible with money. I blew all my savings buying a new motorcycle and than I crashed it. After that my parents did not trust me with money that meant no loans or anything money related from them.

Ok we got that out of the way.

Last year I moved out on my own with $0 money in my bank account. How did I do it. Luckily my brother also wanted to move out. So that cut the cost of renting in half. But I'm living in Texas and rent is cheaper here than LA. Where I live is not the best place to be around but for a two bedroom apartment it's only $700. My monthly bills including rent and electricity, internet, insurance and car payments come at around $800. In all I spend around $1k a month just to get by.

I'm learning how to build websites at the moment and I know how much of a time drain jobs are even though you are getting paid. So this is what I did. I looked for jobs that are generally opened 24 hours a day. That means you will be able to choose your own schedule. The best manual labor jobs to work in and still have energy after your shift are jobs were you get paid in tips. Think waiters, valet, hotel doorman's. I'm working as a valet now and I get pay a fixed hourly rate plus tips and I only work 4 days a week and no more than 8 hours a day. I will never work in a fixed hourly rate again. Hopefully I won't have to work for anyone a year from now. Like another user posted you can go be a car salesman but you'll be a total slave. Get ready for 12 hour shift 6 days a week. You'll get paid hourly but now dealers only pay you $100 for every car you sale. Really not worth it if you are working on your own.

Another option is to lease a car through Uber so they lease you the car and you also work for them. You'll have time in between pick ups to take care of your business.

If everything else fails move to Texas. Everything is fairly cheap here and I'll let you crash at my place until you get off your feet.


Thanks for the thoughtful response.

So starting from the top. The keyword there is "no parent would unreasonable throw out their kid"

Keyword being reasonable & the word reasonable is something my father isn't.

I replied to another member on here on one of my last posts who said something similar. People immeidately assume it must be the kid that is in the wrong, and its an uphill battle each time i try to explain the story.

But long story short this relationship estrangment started when I was 11. My father showed zero love, didnt buy me clothes, take me to doctor, broke my eye glasses. Verbally put me down every day that I was worthless. Didn't pick me up from school. Had to walk 2 miles plus take 2 buses back home and to school. And if I ever got sick and needed the doctor or asked for clothes he'd shout me out of the room. Physically abuse till I grew old enough till I looked like a man. I grew up from 6th grade till now with not one new cloth bought from me because he despised me so much. The only way I got clothes was from my uncle/cousin who would buy me stuff whenever he saw me once a year. But most of the clothes I wore wear toren and F*cked growing up. and it wasn;t because I was a bad kid. I didn't do drugs. I had almost straight A's. And never talked back as a kid. Only the people that have lived with me & witnessed everything, which would be my mom and my little brothers understand the bigger story. As well as very close family members

After I turned 18, I did support myself. I bought my own food, cooked my own meals. Didn't use his car for my needs.
The only time I used the car was when I was told to do a million errands for him or the house.
What I didn't have was money since the business was taking forevr to grow and I was investing alot into it so no I can't pay with the bills. But I was pretty much self suportive. No body had to do anything for me. nobody had to cook, buy me food, buy me clothes or shiet. The only thing I did was stay in my room, worked & helped a shiet ton with his personal errands as well as house errands that he should also have done himself. I benefited him more than he benefited me. And I stuck through the abuse, instead of getting a job and dipping immediately because I understood, if I could eat shiet at home & work on my business and learn as much as possible, I'd be in a better spot. In a way that is true. I have a business s that is automated although it isn't much. I have gained sales skills, jiring skills , managing skills, web designs kills, and shiet load of experience in seo & adwords, systemizing businesses,etc
And regarding blowing $$ in vegas, I actually did that 3 months into my business at age 19 at the time. It was the first time I ever had money. I made about 2-3k in a month at the time and boom like a kid that was starving blew it in vegas with a friend. Granted my father or no one else knows about this. Just me and my friend. But one of my biggest lessons in money nonthless. But yes its something no one knows about.


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Having said that. I have looked into waiters as well. All these tip jobs. Yea if it can make/clear 2k after taxes on about part time I'm happy.

And dude I really appreciate you offering me to crash at your place in texas in case I need to. That means ALOT!!!
 

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On the 'stressed out' thing. You don't think well when you're stressed. So standard stuff, are you working out regularly (hard workouts)? Do you meditate?

Quick stress relief: hit something until you relax (heavy bag, not a person). Batting cage, driving range, or pound nails into a stump. You can build something like hitting a tire with a sledgehammer into your workouts (believe me, you will be too tired to be stressed).

If you have a thought running around in your head that keeps re-stressing you, get it out.

Method 1, from The Sedona Method (abbreviated version, grab the book or Google if it appeals), Steps:
1) Focus on the issue you'd like to feel better about, allow yourself to REALLY FEEL how you are feeling in this moment.
2) Ask yourself one of these questions (whichever you like): Could I let this feeling go? Could I allow this feeling to be here? Could I welcome this feeling? What you answer doesn't matter (yes or no are both fine), be honest.
3) Ask yourself: Would I? Again, just answer honestly.
4) Ask yourself: When?
5) Repeat until the feeling is gone. Even for really intense emotions this is usually only 2 or 3 passes.​
This will usually be answered: No, No, Never in the first round =) Then you find yourself softening until you get to Yes, Yes, Right f'n now.

Method 2, EFT. Takes a little longer, and is usually for ingrained issues rather than acute stressors, but works for both. Just google Nick Ortner, The Tapping Solution. He has everything you need on his website.


Yes I workout. Been working out since age 16...biggest part of my stress reliever and self improvement journey.

I also do BJJ & wrestling at a local mma gym so it has been a god send. Biggest stress reliever. Probably one of thw only places where all my problems disappear.

It's pretty much like my drug. Everytime I'm there its an escape from my mental struggle and current situation. So yup you're right working out, & doing physical activity helps.

I'm probably not eating right thou. diet is pretty shiet. I'm eating enough calories just to bulk up..about 200+lbs now. But the food I'm eating is not quality food. I have reintroduced juicing green smoothies in the morning again so its a step in the right direction in terms of eating quality food.
 

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You may not want to do the cleaning business long-term, but you've already got a good start on it. I would say just hustle over these next few months. If you can't afford ads, then use your time to go find business. Go knock on doors. It's not glamorous, but I bet if you went out and spent 8 hours a day knocking on doors instead of at some low-paying job, you'll be in a position to be on your own in 3 months. Since you already have operations automated, your focus should be on getting more customers. That's the only thing stopping that $1k from being $10k.

I have acually done door to door before very early only 2-2.5 years ago when I started the cleaning biz.

Not only did I get stopped by cops since soliciting is not allowed in my town of santa monica, they told me I needed some sort of permit.

Long story short didn't go with it since I noticed the ROI for house cleaning on door knocking isn't there.

The average booking of a job is like $150-250. If you hustled for 8 hours straight...maybe just maybe you sell one job.

after payng contractors and expenses aint really worth much.

I'd probably only Door to Door for high ticket items like roofing projects, painting,etc. Now those jobs which cost 6k,10k, 13k, 20k,etc.

That's worth doing 8 hours/day 5 days a week. The roi makes sense.

But I do take your advice of what you're saying. It's better to do 8 hours of sales for your self/own business than a low paying job.

That reinforces my thoughts, so thanks for reinforcing it, your advice is noted.




I feel the 8 hours a day is better spent on cold calling for seo, and going to networking events as well as posting online/advertsiing for seo services.

That's basically my action plan as outlined in one of my last replies

I'm literally going to spend every day the next couple months treating cold calls/sales for seo as if it was my fulltime sales job. In the meantime Get a business broker to sell the cleaning business.

Btw if you or anyone else knows a great business broker, I'm all ears..would help alot

And to be safe I'd apply to part time jobs for sales jobs,etc on the side.
 
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The healthcare I have is under some sort of family plan or low income shiet. Basically its free for me until age 24 then after that I gotta get my own.
But its literally called LA Healthcare lol. And only works here from what I understand.

But from having gone to the doctor in the past year for alignments, illness and injuries that require antibiotics or some sort of treatment,etc...I know for a fact I cant afford any of that over priced shiet if I ever get ill like with some bacteria that requires antibiotics or things like that. antibiotics from a doctor are like $100 or some shiet a pill. its ridiculous
Basically riding the tax payer's wallets. But, why wouldn't you take it if it is offered.

I second the ideas of finding a job regardless of pay and figuring out a creative path for living arrangements.

I lived in my car for a while at the age of 18 because there was no other option. Don't remember stressing about it.
 
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If you rank on page 1 for cleaning company keywords, what about selling the leads?
 
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So, I'm in a very weird sticky situation & I need help or some second opinions because my head is about to explode with panic & stress....


I'll give you a quick rundown.

Background story:
Grew up in dysfunctional household. Have a horrible abusive father that pretty much didn't do shiet for me and was just abusive. At age of 19 I started my first real service business online which is a cleaning company. It took alot of work from me. So much to learn. I learned everything from scratch.... hiring contractors, managing contractors, advertising, seo, adwords, accounting, everything you name it.

Made lots of mistakes as well from blowing money in vegas to all types of shenanigans that slowed down my growth but all lessons learned

Where I am now: Fast forward 2 years later and I'm 21 years old. My business is automated by VAs but unfortunately I only net max about 1k/mo after expenses in my pocket. This business taught me alot but have no passion to continue it nor do I have the time. Also 1k isnt much especially in a city like Los Angeles.

THE CRAZY EMERGENCY I NEED HELP WITH: About 6 months back, my father kicked me out of the blue. And had no where to go but stay temporarily at a cousin house. I worked my a$$ off until and started putting together an seo agency since I realized this would be the fastest way to make some $$ to move out. just 3-5 seo clients would mean I can live on my own in an expensive city like los angeles. I did do a couple one time projects for clients which let me save about 7-8k fast in the bank. Keep in mind I was starting from scratch with barely any money in savings (Yea I know I f*cked up in my earlier years while trying to figure out this whole business & money stuff and not having saved correctly)

Right now I'm back in my house. My father is out of the country & doesn't know I'm at the house with my mom. He comes back this august or september.

So I have a very limited time to make it work and actually get my own place. (Also dont have my own car)

Between now (May) & August I have to make atleast 3k/mo after taxes minimum to afford living on my own.

What would you do?


Do I continue focusing 100% of my time on getting atleast 3-5 seo clients and go balls to the wall, finger crossed I get those clients before end of summer? (I start mass cold calling hard next week + network event meetups & other things)

I'm also thinking out of 2 weeks of the month doing some sort of uber or ubereats and the other 2 weeks fully on business. That'd make me an extra 1k/mo to save in the meantime. Maybe I'll save about 3k by august if I do uber on the side and make 1k/mo from it



I did the math for uber . One full week would maybe be about 1k-1200 on 50-60 hours of work. Then after taxes, gas, & car rental expense I'm left with like $500 for the week.

TIME IS SUPER LIMITED &SO I HAVE TO ACT FAST.

What do you guys recommend?
Three months is a short time frame. If you have this money, why aren't your renting a cheap apartment and just work a regular job, do your projects on top of it and just take care of yourself.

It's not making a lot of sense to me if you stated you have 7 to 8 K in the bank. What did you do with it? It gives you 1st and last months rent. You can buy a beat up vehicle, work from home with whatever and work a regular job to save money for whatever it is your trying to accomplish. I don't see where you need help, but maybe listen to Dave Ramsey and figure out a plan and stick to it. It doesn't sound like you're in that much trouble.
 

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So, I'm in a very weird sticky situation & I need help or some second opinions because my head is about to explode with panic & stress....


I'll give you a quick rundown.

Background story:
Grew up in dysfunctional household. Have a horrible abusive father that pretty much didn't do shiet for me and was just abusive. At age of 19 I started my first real service business online which is a cleaning company. It took alot of work from me. So much to learn. I learned everything from scratch.... hiring contractors, managing contractors, advertising, seo, adwords, accounting, everything you name it.

Made lots of mistakes as well from blowing money in vegas to all types of shenanigans that slowed down my growth but all lessons learned

Where I am now: Fast forward 2 years later and I'm 21 years old. My business is automated by VAs but unfortunately I only net max about 1k/mo after expenses in my pocket. This business taught me alot but have no passion to continue it nor do I have the time. Also 1k isnt much especially in a city like Los Angeles.

THE CRAZY EMERGENCY I NEED HELP WITH: About 6 months back, my father kicked me out of the blue. And had no where to go but stay temporarily at a cousin house. I worked my a$$ off until and started putting together an seo agency since I realized this would be the fastest way to make some $$ to move out. just 3-5 seo clients would mean I can live on my own in an expensive city like los angeles. I did do a couple one time projects for clients which let me save about 7-8k fast in the bank. Keep in mind I was starting from scratch with barely any money in savings (Yea I know I f*cked up in my earlier years while trying to figure out this whole business & money stuff and not having saved correctly)

Right now I'm back in my house. My father is out of the country & doesn't know I'm at the house with my mom. He comes back this august or september.

So I have a very limited time to make it work and actually get my own place. (Also dont have my own car)

Between now (May) & August I have to make atleast 3k/mo after taxes minimum to afford living on my own.

What would you do?


Do I continue focusing 100% of my time on getting atleast 3-5 seo clients and go balls to the wall, finger crossed I get those clients before end of summer? (I start mass cold calling hard next week + network event meetups & other things)

I'm also thinking out of 2 weeks of the month doing some sort of uber or ubereats and the other 2 weeks fully on business. That'd make me an extra 1k/mo to save in the meantime. Maybe I'll save about 3k by august if I do uber on the side and make 1k/mo from it



I did the math for uber . One full week would maybe be about 1k-1200 on 50-60 hours of work. Then after taxes, gas, & car rental expense I'm left with like $500 for the week.

TIME IS SUPER LIMITED &SO I HAVE TO ACT FAST.

What do you guys recommend?

Not to be a dick but nobody cares. Why should anyone help you?

You’re making 1k a month with your online business. Now that’s not a lot but the point is you’re making more and have gotten further then some people here.

Have you helped anyone here?

You’ll figure it out!
 

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Reading through the words, I don’t understand why you would sell a $1000/mo mostly passive goose. Do you believe that it’s wrong or unfair or cheating to make more than $1000/mo mostly passively? You really insist on getting some kind of job when there are ways to grow the cashflow with no money down (“I should be contributing to society by working instead of managing other people working” - a limiting belief). I also note your tone of words leans towards a scarcity mindset, not an abundance mindset. I would hate to see someone sell a baby golden goose laying gold flakes because of limiting beliefs that it’s wrong or unfair or cheating to raise that goose to lay golden nuggets, then golden eggs, then golden ostrich eggs.

You say you’re tired of it, but I feel you’re tired of only making $1000 a month in the automated cleaning business. have a idea of how you make it cashflow $2000 a month by next month even if the other $1000 a month is from one-off jobs?

Don’t sell it if you can expand the feedback loop to meet your expenses & beyond.

It sounds like you haven’t read MJs books, Read Unscripted first and then come back.
 
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Basically riding the tax payer's wallets. But, why wouldn't you take it if it is offered.

I second the ideas of finding a job regardless of pay and figuring out a creative path for living arrangements.

I lived in my car for a while at the age of 18 because there was no other option. Don't remember stressing about it.

Oh yeah I already have the healthcare.

I was just telling another member on here that if I move to another state, I risk losing it since it doesn't work in other states from understanding

Yup & makes sense. job & car noted
 

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If you rank on page 1 for cleaning company keywords, what about selling the leads?

Sell the leads instead of actually doing the jobs via subcontracting?

I mean the max you'd sell these leads for is $15-30 a pop give or take. I mean that'd help. Less overhead costs since you are not subbing out the jobs& most of the money is profit. I'll look into it.
 
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Three months is a short time frame. If you have this money, why aren't your renting a cheap apartment and just work a regular job, do your projects on top of it and just take care of yourself.

It's not making a lot of sense to me if you stated you have 7 to 8 K in the bank. What did you do with it? It gives you 1st and last months rent. You can buy a beat up vehicle, work from home with whatever and work a regular job to save money for whatever it is your trying to accomplish. I don't see where you need help, but maybe listen to Dave Ramsey and figure out a plan and stick to it. It doesn't sound like you're in that much trouble.

Oh yeah, I was posting on here to gain some perspectives, especialy what other fastlaners who may have been in a similar cndition would have done.

My biggest thing I couldn't decide on was because of multipe spinning plates

I have an automated cleaning biz but transitioning into seo agency...do I sell it or not for a large sum of money for this tough time?

Do I go full time and get seo clients or get a job instead in these 3 months? How can I spend these 3 months wisely to put me in the best position in terms of finances & survival but also not set me back in business?
Do I move to another state or what?

And so on..

Those were all the questions going on in my head before I posted on the thread. I consulted some friends and they had answers all over the board. One told me to stop everything and just go 100% on getting seo clients in 3 months and sell the cleaning business. Another one told me to hold on to the cleaning business since it had potential,etc

So I posted on here to gain some perspectives from other people. And see what most would recommend, pick their brains a bit especially since some have a lot more experience than me in these kind of things.
I was hoping to gain new perspectives as well as make sure there weren't things I was overlooking or didn't want to end up making unreasonable decision based on just emotion and my opinions alone.

And yea I have read Dave Ramsey Total money makeover book. I'm familiar with his work for sure.

I have the 7-8k saved. I just wanted to make sure I use that money wisely.Its my safety cushion I have so far
 

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Not to be a dick but nobody cares. Why should anyone help you?

You’re making 1k a month with your online business. Now that’s not a lot but the point is you’re making more and have gotten further then some people here.

Have you helped anyone here?

You’ll figure it out!

Actually yea I have helped people on here. I lost my forum login since I hadn't logged in so long.

So made a new account. Granted I wasn't as active in my other account and always lurked without logging in.

And in response to "nobody cares, why should anyone help?"

At the end of the day, that is what forums are about. I'm in a group of many different types of forums and Facebook groups. It is community where you share insights and ideas.

But it's also a community where people ask a question or struggle they're currently going through (assuming its related to the topic of that forum) to answer each others question.

When you have a question or problem in your business, finance situation that you just can't seem to crack after researching & thinking about it or want a 2nd opinion on...I assume you post on here to ask or another finance/business,etc forum.

That's how I have seen FB groups, Forums and any online community work from my years of being on them. People come in, ask questions people help them out. They continue to engage. And over the years, those people become experts or more experienced and they help other members as well as other people coming in/starting out.

As an example...Let's say If you had fitness question, I assume you'd do your due diligence research online but you'd also ask on a reputable fitness forum for a 2nd opinion or insight.

If someone was to answer back with..."dude who cares, have you helped anyone yet. Why should anyone help you. You already gained 10lbs of muscle. That's more than some people. You'll figure it out"

That would be silly.

That's the whole point of this community. People helping other people
 

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Reading through the words, I don’t understand why you would sell a $1000/mo mostly passive goose. Do you believe that it’s wrong or unfair or cheating to make more than $1000/mo mostly passively? You really insist on getting some kind of job when there are ways to grow the cashflow with no money down (“I should be contributing to society by working instead of managing other people working” - a limiting belief). I also note your tone of words leans towards a scarcity mindset, not an abundance mindset. I would hate to see someone sell a baby golden goose laying gold flakes because of limiting beliefs that it’s wrong or unfair or cheating to raise that goose to lay golden nuggets, then golden eggs, then golden ostrich eggs.

You say you’re tired of it, but I feel you’re tired of only making $1000 a month in the automated cleaning business. have a idea of how you make it cashflow $2000 a month by next month even if the other $1000 a month is from one-off jobs?

Don’t sell it if you can expand the feedback loop to meet your expenses & beyond.

It sounds like you haven’t read MJs books, Read Unscripted first and then come back.


Oh no, I don't think its unfair to make 1k/mo passive. It's beautiful. I want and going to make more money passively. I don't have that kind of mindset at all.
And not insisting on getting a job, in fact it was the last thing and last resort I wanted to do. But thats again why I posted on this thread and multiple members stressed I get some sort of job to rescue me from the temporary financial crisis.

Regarding the cleaning business. It's more of a...should I sell to get large amount of capital from it now and have enough $$ in savings to help out now. Or possibly keep it and one day expand, and make more money out of it. Like I said I'm moving towards the seo agency since I see the potential of how just closing one client means high profit margins. Just closing a couple large projects the past 3-4 months is what allowed me to save 7-8k fast. So I love the marketing agency model, its something I wanted to do from a long time ago. So a marketing agency was always in the back of my head. And B2B I find is much more fun that B2C

I'm burnt out from the cleaning business because of all the bullshiet it put me though epecially the first 1.5 years. Dealing with bullshit contractors, compliants,tec Granted you get that in all industries.
But cleaning is a different world man. By the time I was able to get automated for it, I lost any interest of building a cleaning empire. It was more of a stepping stone. A wild idea I got from some guy on reddit when I was 19 who was doing 2 mil/year with maid company. After reading his post, I ended up starting the very next week immediately. I'm glad I did. It has brought me a long way so far.
 
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So I’m not trying to jump on you but it seems to me all you have is excuses of why you can’t or shouldn’t do something when someone gives you their opinion.

Honestly you have to decide if your life currently sucks enough to do something about it or if you are happy being mediocre in your current situation. Based on your responses I would say you haven’t had a FTE yet. If you would have had a FTE you wouldn’t be thinking about maybe doing something... you would be doing it.

My opinion? Move to another state where it is super cheap to live. There are tons of places in the Midwest where you can easily live for 1k a month or even less.

You then have the freedom to work a job part time to invest that money into building up a cleaning business in another area, build a different business entirely, or just laze around and do nothing for most of the week.

You could also take your time and learn a trade or something like that. If running a businesses at 1k a month is stressing you out then maybe being a business owner isn’t for you.

As an outsider you seem like about 75% of the rest of the US population. They don’t like their current situation but are too scared to make the big decisions to make their life truly better.

They are stuck weighing the pros and cons and can’t do this or that because of this reason or that reason. The truth is that they haven’t had a FTE. They are only uncomfortable in their current situation but not enough to do something about it.

Sounds a lot like you.
 

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I would definitely consider moving. LA is crazy expensive. While it would be hard to live on 1K pretty much anywhere. You could move to a midwestern city for less than half the cost. For example, Kansas City is 60% less than LA for living expenses. If you want to build a digital agency, it is a good place to do it. They have been calling KC the Silicon Prairie for a reason. Google Fiber was the first to come here and companies like Sprint and Cerner are based here along with a lot of smaller tech companies. But, that is just one option.
 

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go to local business meetups like the chamber of commerce and BNI meetings
BNI meetings!

Pleasantly surprised someone mentioned it here finally!

I get notifications on social media as to what speaker is on, what kind of clients he is looking for, and what services does he offer.

Very good way of knowing who's who in a certain area, like who's the top dentist, or the most approachable window contractor.
 
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Actually yea I have helped people on here. I lost my forum login since I hadn't logged in so long.

So made a new account. Granted I wasn't as active in my other account and always lurked without logging in.

And in response to "nobody cares, why should anyone help?"

At the end of the day, that is what forums are about. I'm in a group of many different types of forums and Facebook groups. It is community where you share insights and ideas.

But it's also a community where people ask a question or struggle they're currently going through (assuming its related to the topic of that forum) to answer each others question.

When you have a question or problem in your business, finance situation that you just can't seem to crack after researching & thinking about it or want a 2nd opinion on...I assume you post on here to ask or another finance/business,etc forum.

That's how I have seen FB groups, Forums and any online community work from my years of being on them. People come in, ask questions people help them out. They continue to engage. And over the years, those people become experts or more experienced and they help other members as well as other people coming in/starting out.

As an example...Let's say If you had fitness question, I assume you'd do your due diligence research online but you'd also ask on a reputable fitness forum for a 2nd opinion or insight.

If someone was to answer back with..."dude who cares, have you helped anyone yet. Why should anyone help you. You already gained 10lbs of muscle. That's more than some people. You'll figure it out"

That would be silly.

That's the whole point of this community. People helping other people

Apologies, never answered anyone on here that strongly before but lately (at least from my opinion) I have been seeing posts like this and I just cringe. There’s a lot of members on here that provide help and value - more than you know. I have personally asked people for help via private messages. I personally think these types of threads do more damage than good to the community and I believe many people here agree.

This forum isn’t about getting help so that you can make your bills next month. This forum is about executing your own vision and opening up to the community so that others can contribute to your success (even if you fail) on your way up. We will all learn that way.

It’s somewhat awkward seeing some random come to a community and say hey, help me make my bills next month. It’s actually kind of ballsy - no disrespect.

If you needed to make your bills next month - signup for an Upwork account and serve people. Get your hands dirty!
 

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TIME IS SUPER LIMITED &SO I HAVE TO ACT FAST


You seem like a hard working young guy, your only problem is Time.

Wanting to succeed on a short time frame is very stressful and you will make strategic mistake.

If you had one year, you would probably be able to reach a better kind of financial independence. But the time pressing issue is a the problem.

I think your first issue to solve is How not to be pressed by time so that you can get sure that you can keep trying and will eventually succeed at one point .

Some in this thread talked about getting a cheap place to live in. I second that.

I will suggest you an example of poison that allows you to work on your projects, get your place and still not work a job for more than necessary. So that you can keep trying at any business wou want until you are ready to make a big leap.

Bartending during night shift:

it allows you to work during the day on the project you care about and once your mind is tired after working for yourself, you go work for someone else at night to make money.

Just do the maths that work for you: youcan work as many night as you want.

Maybe you only need to work 3 shifts to buy food and shelter.

In a nutshell:

  1. You can probably get started in less than a week.
  2. You can work on your personal project first during the day (when you are fresh) , then go make standard income at night.
  3. You can choose to only work enough to pay rent, to keep as much free time as possible.
  4. When your business grow, you can then choose to work less shifts. Until the point where you can afford to quit.
  5. It's less tiring than you think because you won't use your brain in the same way than during the day.
 

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You Need a place to stay that is your priority, check for good house sitting options. In return for watering plants or feeding a cat, you get to stay free. Save rent money.
Next focus on making money
 
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First off, huge respect for managing to build a business with that much passive income at such a young age. Definitely do not sell the business as some people suggested, your average man would kill to have that much in passive income.

For suggestions, I'd personally try and get a part time job in your situation as option number one. Either sales or bar work as suggested by others in this thread would work and when added to the passive income from your business, will give you reasonable enough income to live off of while also giving you time to work on something else.

You could also consider replicating your cleaning business either in another city or going for a different service business altogether. Maybe painting, handyman services, carpet cleaning, anything with a similar model where you can hire people and apply the same principles from your cleaning business.

Failing that, you should seriously consider relocating as a last resort, even if only temporarily. 1k/month is probably nothing over in L.A but it can afford you a very good quality of life in a lot of places. I used to live in a shared flat with all bills and taxes covered for £397/month over in the UK and paid around £150-200/month on my food. That 1k you make pretty much covers the cost of living in a cheap city here in England and if you look at cheap countries like Thailand, you can live like a king on that. I'd imagine there are also cheaper cities in America that you could live in aside from L.A which I hear is crazy expensive.

Finally, if you don't mind me asking, what is it about the cleaning business that makes you want to stay away from it? I'm actually in the process of building up a cleaning business myself as a little side project. I would love to hear any wisdom you'd be willing to share into how you built it, particularly how you went about marketing it and getting your first customers.

Best of luck with everything.
 

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So I’m not trying to jump on you but it seems to me all you have is excuses of why you can’t or shouldn’t do something when someone gives you their opinion.

Honestly you have to decide if your life currently sucks enough to do something about it or if you are happy being mediocre in your current situation. Based on your responses I would say you haven’t had a FTE yet. If you would have had a FTE you wouldn’t be thinking about maybe doing something... you would be doing it.

My opinion? Move to another state where it is super cheap to live. There are tons of places in the Midwest where you can easily live for 1k a month or even less.

You then have the freedom to work a job part time to invest that money into building up a cleaning business in another area, build a different business entirely, or just laze around and do nothing for most of the week.

You could also take your time and learn a trade or something like that. If running a businesses at 1k a month is stressing you out then maybe being a business owner isn’t for you.

As an outsider you seem like about 75% of the rest of the US population. They don’t like their current situation but are too scared to make the big decisions to make their life truly better.

They are stuck weighing the pros and cons and can’t do this or that because of this reason or that reason. The truth is that they haven’t had a FTE. They are only uncomfortable in their current situation but not enough to do something about it.

Sounds a lot like you.

Oh yeah I understand.

My problem is analysis by paralysis I'd say.

And I usually dont get caught in analysis by paralysis but lately I hve been because I'm faced with real life changing events.

It's a constant...should I go this path or this...what would be the best option.

But yes I have started taking action and decided

Apply to a job every day
Work on geting seo clients the next months every day I have left
Sign up for uber & everything & have that ready as backup


And when it's one month before move out. I'll start apartment shopping

Find an apartment and dip

In the meantime I'll either have a job or some more seo clients or combination of both. Uber will be there to back me up. the flexibility would allow me to work on my business from 6am-11 or 12. Then work from 12 or 1 till 8 or 9pm every day.

So I have came across the decision.

I'm sure I sound like 75% of the population. but unlike the rest of the population I take action in everything and go to all ends to make it happen. But just wanted to quickly get some ideas before I chose the path.

This forum really hammered down and put things into perspective for me, and I really thank everyone for that.

I finally feel like I cracked it and got an actual gameplan to go down on.
 

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I would definitely consider moving. LA is crazy expensive. While it would be hard to live on 1K pretty much anywhere. You could move to a midwestern city for less than half the cost. For example, Kansas City is 60% less than LA for living expenses. If you want to build a digital agency, it is a good place to do it. They have been calling KC the Silicon Prairie for a reason. Google Fiber was the first to come here and companies like Sprint and Cerner are based here along with a lot of smaller tech companies. But, that is just one option.

Yes will consider that city as well. Thanks for the reccomendation
 
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Apologies, never answered anyone on here that strongly before but lately (at least from my opinion) I have been seeing posts like this and I just cringe. There’s a lot of members on here that provide help and value - more than you know. I have personally asked people for help via private messages. I personally think these types of threads do more damage than good to the community and I believe many people here agree.

This forum isn’t about getting help so that you can make your bills next month. This forum is about executing your own vision and opening up to the community so that others can contribute to your success (even if you fail) on your way up. We will all learn that way.

It’s somewhat awkward seeing some random come to a community and say hey, help me make my bills next month. It’s actually kind of ballsy - no disrespect.

If you needed to make your bills next month - signup for an Upwork account and serve people. Get your hands dirty!

I understand where you are coming from.

It was more of a panic mode and didn't know where to turn to for advice.

The advise my family and friends were giving me was conflicting which is why I decided that maybe the fastlane forum might have some people who have been in this situation or know better on this type of subject than me. Especially sinc eits like minded business people.
 

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You Need a place to stay that is your priority, check for good house sitting options. In return for watering plants or feeding a cat, you get to stay free. Save rent money.
Next focus on making money

Yea haha I seen those posts on craigslist. Some even said if you cook, massage them,etc they'll let someone rent a room

I probably wont go down that offer

But I do want to find someone that is renting out their room. Like a family renting out one free room they have. those are usually cheap and about $500 or so a month
 

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First off, huge respect for managing to build a business with that much passive income at such a young age. Definitely do not sell the business as some people suggested, your average man would kill to have that much in passive income.

For suggestions, I'd personally try and get a part time job in your situation as option number one. Either sales or bar work as suggested by others in this thread would work and when added to the passive income from your business, will give you reasonable enough income to live off of while also giving you time to work on something else.

You could also consider replicating your cleaning business either in another city or going for a different service business altogether. Maybe painting, handyman services, carpet cleaning, anything with a similar model where you can hire people and apply the same principles from your cleaning business.

Failing that, you should seriously consider relocating as a last resort, even if only temporarily. 1k/month is probably nothing over in L.A but it can afford you a very good quality of life in a lot of places. I used to live in a shared flat with all bills and taxes covered for £397/month over in the UK and paid around £150-200/month on my food. That 1k you make pretty much covers the cost of living in a cheap city here in England and if you look at cheap countries like Thailand, you can live like a king on that. I'd imagine there are also cheaper cities in America that you could live in aside from L.A which I hear is crazy expensive.

Finally, if you don't mind me asking, what is it about the cleaning business that makes you want to stay away from it? I'm actually in the process of building up a cleaning business myself as a little side project. I would love to hear any wisdom you'd be willing to share into how you built it, particularly how you went about marketing it and getting your first customers.

Best of luck with everything.


Yea man, thanks

basically what Im thinking...part time job as sales or what you recommended. Or even full time if needed as last resort.

Switching to another complete county is also an option so yea on the list if I really need it.

Cleaning business the toughest part is dealing with hiring cleaners. The complaints. The costanr retarded shsiet..like cleaners doing bad jobs, cleaners not showing up, requote, etc

That shiet wore me out the first 1.5 years. Nowadays I dont deal with that stuff because of my VAs take care of it. But I'm still mentally drained from those days on cleaning. you will understand what I mean once you start it.
Also the marketing aspect is annoying.
Adwords or PPL sucks since house cleaning jobs are small so it F*cks up your whole profit. Yelp is the best way to grow. Gain more reviews assuming you're in a big city or where its popular. Followed up by seo. Again depends on what city you are in. SEO will only have a huge impact if you're in a city with lots of searches for it. Check out your competitors ranking top page on google on ahrefs and see what traffic they get from google. its a good gauge of hat you can expect when you rank. If they're not getting atleast 500-1k visit minimum seo is going to help but no huge boost. But do seo from the beginning regardless. Do not wait till later on. Do from first day. Regardless its very important and still helps. And lastly craigslist is the underrated. Make sure to use it.

If I was to start again I recommend commercial cleaning instead of house cleaning. Less hassle. You wont even need a VA until you're like 50k/mo in revenue. Less back and forth. Less calls. Less emails. Less admin tasks. Contracts are consistent and long term
 
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Moving to a cheaper place would definitely be a great option. Minimizing your expenses at first is probably needed if you quickly want/need to get out of the house. At the same time, this will keep you motivated to work hard and smart enough to be able to afford moving back.
 

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Yea haha I seen those posts on craigslist. Some even said if you cook, massage them,etc they'll let someone rent a room

I probably wont go down that offer

But I do want to find someone that is renting out their room. Like a family renting out one free room they have. those are usually cheap and about $500 or so a month
Ouch I should have stressed on finding an “empty” house sitting option. Will be good if you find a room with your own facilities.
 

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