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World Cup Discussion (+bracket competition)

Longinus

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I think the cup this year is going to France. But... There maybe surprises.

Croatia is good too. Sweden and Belgium... England... Mmmmh

Hard to know.

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Funny nobody mentioned Russia for getting further, even though it was close tonight... Russia played very good.

I think England will have his first real threat with Croatia now. To be honest, they (England) didn't impress me yet this tournament.
 
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Funny nobody mentioned Russia for getting further, even though it was close tonight... Russia played very good.

I think England will have his first real threat with Croatia now. To be honest, they (England) didn't impress me yet this tournament.

I really don't wanna go for anyone, because this is the world cup of the surprises, you never know who is going to win. Crazy, but really fun world cup. I like surprises hehehe...
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Was it just me or did Russia play better than Croatia that game? Damn penalties.

Yeah, Croatia sucked last time.

Anyway, I hope spectacular football wins this time over boring, dead-game, diving-to-get-a-penalty football.
 
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I'm having good vibes for England this world cup! They broke their penalty curse against Colombia!
 

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Belgium gone, France still haven't hit top gear yet either...
 

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Belgium gone, France still haven't hit top gear yet either...

Still they're stronger. Not nice football to watch, but that doesn't matter. I hope I'm wrong, but I think France will win the World Cup.
 
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I have Croatia winning tomorrow. They've been weakened a bit, but I can't take England seriously.

England's wins so far were all non-impressive: Tunisia, Panama, weakened Colombia, Sweden. Lost to Belgium.

First real test for England.

Croatia meanwhile beat: Nigeria, Argentina, Iceland, Denmark, Russia.

Add to that, the Russians were likely doped up, and you have a fairly impressive performance.

Croatians are underdogs according to sportsbooks, but I'm attributing that to pro-British bias.

Excited for the game.
 

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Croatians are underdogs according to sportsbooks, but I'm attributing that to pro-British bias

Nope, due to the fact that Croatia have had two gruelling games in extra time and penalties and the fact that the ageing Modric looked shot at the end of the Russia game.

It's coming home . . .
 
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Still they're stronger. Not nice football to watch, but that doesn't matter. I hope I'm wrong, but I think France will win the World Cup.

Yeah I think they will win it, very classy side. Being a Man Utd fan I hope Pogpa plays well if they do! I'd like to see England win though.
 

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Yeah I think they will win it, very classy side. Being a Man Utd fan I hope Pogpa plays well if they do! I'd like to see England win though.

Yeah, I thought that since seeing them demolish Argentina, Mbappe is devastating...

Funny how when VAR is introduced all the cheats go out early; coincidence? LOLZ
 
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It's weird. When England scored I thought they were going to win. But they began to play more defensively instead of going for another goal. Croatia played really great.

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Yet again, England sit back and play negative football after going 1-0 up.

Southgate also left it too long without making a change.

They had the chance to win, they just weren't good enough.
 
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France definitely has the upper hand, should be a great game though.
 

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France definitely has the upper hand, should be a great game though.

France is a pretty big betting favorite at this point. One site has France -210 (you have to bet $210 on them to win $100) and Croatia +175 (you bet $100 to win $175). Pretty cool underdog story in Croatia, though.
 

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So England, we meet again :smile:

France definitely has the upper hand, should be a great game though.

Chances are slim, but Croatia winning would be the ultimate cherry on this unpredictable world cup cake. Kudos to Croatia's massive stamina.
 
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Disappointed but not surprised.

A big part of England’s game plan was play for free kicks. Then score from those free kicks, which to be fair they were very good at.
 

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It's weird. When England scored I thought they were going to win.

I don't have a dog in the fight but when England started faking (or over-extending injuries ) and being leisurely on every non-game event, I'm glad they lost.
 

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Croatia has been underrated all tournament and still are. It's ridiculous.

Goalie is world class.
Midfield is world class.
Forwards are middle class.

Only thing average is their defense, but they've been doing alright.

Everyone keeps saying that they're "tired", but I haven't seen that yet, and have yet to see data suggesting that four days of rest is not enough to recover.

I believe France are slight favorites in the final, but it's still ridiculous how much people are discounting Croatia and their wins over everyone thus far.

I'd peg the final at 60% France, 40% Croatia. Sportsbooks are undervaluing Croatia again. Worth betting on for positive EV.
 

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I don't have a dog in the fight but when England started faking (or over-extending injuries ) and being leisurely on every non-game event, I'm glad they lost.

Thats soccer unfortunately, the French did it to us in the first game after they went 2-1 up. If VAR can rule on penalties then I think injuries should be reviewed as well, and when a Neymar or the like roll around clutching a body part that wasn't touched, instance red card. Stamp it out. Won't happen though, its considered gamesmanship :(
 
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Anyone know what France's odds to win were at the start of the tourney? Couldn't find anything on the web other than the final's odds.
 

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Anyone know what France's odds to win were at the start of the tourney? Couldn't find anything on the web other than the final's odds.
I would also like to know, lol I was a bit surprised a lot of people though Croatia was going to win. I ended up winning my bet I had on France lol could have won more but didn't want to get greedy, I always remember greedy kills.
 
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I thought Croatia played like champions, maybe even better than France.

They lost on some minor technicalities (own goal, and penalty). Other than that, their playing & possession% were better.

so sad about this they really could do this
 

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