Learnings from 3,000+ PMs with fellow forum members

[Andy Black]

To date I've had 700+ PMs with fellow forum members.
(EDIT: 3,500+ PMs now.)

I PM to give thanks for following me or for giving me rep. I always ask how things are going, and strike up a brief conversation.


I've noticed some common themes from these conversations (especially with people trying to get started or trying to "get traction").

My main learnings are that:

1. People often over-complicate things.
   
   
2. People often get in their own way.
   
   
3. People often believe they can't give value to the forum yet (saying nice things like "I'd love to give back when I can add value.")

Sound familiar?


There's been some classic GOLD threads addressing this, and here's a few:

• Save Yourself Years of Frustration; It Worked For Me! (Thanks @MustImprove)
  
  
• Getting started is this simple... (Thanks @RHL)
  
  
• The "Astonishing Secrets" Thread (Thanks @IceCreamKid)

I wrote a post along similar lines:

• "Clarity of Purpose"

And Justin Jackson wrote a great article here:

• Quit trying to attract a crowd and just help people

In my opinion:

• Over-complicating things, getting in your own way, and not believing you can add value are all symptoms of the same thing.
  
  
• Each of the posts listed above are trying to address this exact same thing.
  
  
• The symptoms above are all related to being "me" centric, and the posts above are all ways to stop being "me" centric.

If your goal is to help others, then things get a lot less complicated.

If your goal is to help others, then you're less likely to get in your own way - because you're not even in the picture anymore.

If your goal is to help others, then you'll realise that giving thanks to other forum members can add a lot of value to their lives, and to the forum. (We know we should give to receive, but I'd no idea of the power of "giving thanks" until I thanked so many people in the forum.)



A few months ago I decided to "learn to create talking head videos".

I got tangled up that first evening, because my goal was wrong.

My goal was to create a video.

My goal was not to say "thank you" to @SinisterLex for the videos he was adding to the forum.

I screwed up.

I over-complicated things.

I got in my own way.

I believed I couldn't add value to the forum.

All because I was thinking about "me", and not thinking about Lex.


After I gave myself a stern talking to, I created my very first talking head video.

Here it is (and it's very relevant to this thread):

I've done 16 videos so far, and it's not until this evening that I've noticed a common theme.

Here's another video that might help you:

Here's another where I talk about my "founding story"... a story from 2009 that still sends shivers down my spine when I remember it:

I talk a bit more about that story in this radio interview.

Who will you help this week?

Who will you thank today?​

 

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[AndrewNC]

Qiuqmi ugvip cimoiwi vjiz dep'v howi wemai vu vji gusan ziv (tezoph podi vjopht moli "O'f muwi vu howi cedl xjip O dep eff wemai.")

IWISZCUFZ dep eff wemai.

O hiv vji teni vjoph et zua fu emm vji voni gsun qiuqmi O jimq tezoph "O xotj O duamf eff wemai tunifez, O jewi pu tlommt vu uggis". Xjev nutv qiuqmi fup'v lpux ot vjev vji jimq O howi vjin...vaspt uav vu ci e djeqvis op nz cuul. Jimqoph vjin edvaemmz jimqt ni cideati ov howit ni dmesovz ug xjev O tjuamf xsovi ecuav.

Vjiz esi jimqoph, iwip og vjiz fup'v lpux ov.

Pux, cioph up vji uvjis tofi ug vji tqidvsan...

O niv Limtiz e xiil ehu epf xi'wi ciip up e pancis ug fevit. Jis fsien ot vu ci e tpuxcuesfoph optvsadvus.

Tji hewi ni gsii tpuxcuesfoph mittupt. O duamf jewi teof vu nztimg "O jewi pu wemai vu howi cedl op tpuxcuesfoph." Cav tji ot hivvoph iyqisoipdi jimqoph ni...xjodj xomm neli jis e civvis depfofevi gus kuct mevis. Epf vjip O mevis siemobif tji fuit pivxusl neslivoph - O hewi jis tuni temit vseopoph efwodi vjev ot jimqoph jis.

...katv cideati zua fup'v jewi wemai vu howi op UPI dupviyv....vji qistup zua'si vemloph vu dep cipigov gsun ZUAS esie ug iyqisvoti op uvjis dupviyvt: Duuloph/govpitt/jiemvj/simevouptjoqt/ivd.

 

[StevieB]

O en haomvz ug tisouatmz uwis-dunqmodevoph vjopht cav O siemobif ov xet fai vu e gix vjopht.

1. O neli vji fidotoup ug 'xjev ofie O xepv vu iyidavi up' xez vu coh ug e fiem. O giim moli O'wi upmz huv 1 tjuv tu fup'v xepv vu tdsix ov aq. Vjot jet deatif ni vu iyidavi up emnutv puvjoph.

2. Et e qesv ug pancis 1 O gies mutoph nupiz up e qastaov vjev xomm puv jewi epz sivasp.

Tu O ipf aq xez uwisvjoploph vjopht epf fu puvjoph.

Pux O siemobi O fup'v jewi vu fanq vupt ug nupiz opvu ep ofie cigusi O dep gopf uav og ov xuslt, tu O'n katv huoph xovj vji upi vjev O vjopl *nohjv* ci citv.

 

[Roli]

Vjeplt gus vjot qutv Epfz, O'wi emsiefz djidlif uav upi ug vji vjsieft zua tahhitv, huv vu hu vu cif pux, cav O'wi cuulneslif vjot.

Djiist

 

[Andy Black]

Tuniupi katv QN'f ni egvis siefoph vjot qutv, etloph jux vu miesp vu howi xovjuav iyqidvevoup ug epzvjoph op sivasp.

Jisi't nz siqmz:


Jux vu miesp vu howi xovjuav xepvoph epzvjoph op sivasp?

Cecz tviqt.



Tnomi gostv.

Tez jimmu gostv.

Tez vjepl zua.

Howi e Moli.

Tipf tuni Siq.


Tvsoli aq e gsoipfmz dupwistevoup xovj tuniupi xju muult cusif us ot jewoph e cef fez ev xusl.

Jumf e fuus uqip gus tuniupi.

Jimq tuniupi xovj vjios tjuqqoph.

Howi tuni nupiz vu e junimitt qistup.

Voq e xeovis us xeovsitt cohhis vjep pusnem.

Howi e jovdj-jolis e mogv.

Fuacmi cedl epf howi e jovdj-jolis e mogv.

Fsuq vjin gasvjis vuxesft vjios fitvopevoup vjep zua piifif vu.



Neli tuniupi tnomi.

Jewi e meahj xovj tuniupi.

Qav zuas jepf up tuniupi't tjuamfis epf muul vjin op vji izi xjip zua tez tussz.

Qav zuas qjupi fuxp xjip tuniupi vemlt vu zua.



Tvesv tnemm.

Tii vji iggidv zuas edvoupt jewi up uvjist.

Giim vjuti podi giimopht xovjop zuastimg gus fuoph ov.

Dsievi ep oncemepdi op vji xusmf.

Og zua huv tunivjoph cedl iedj voni zua jimqif tuniupi, vjip iedj vseptedvoup xuamf ci dunqmivi.

Jewi geovj ov xomm duni cedl vu zua.



Moli iwiszvjoph, katv tvesv.



Ov't ciip teof O mowi op e "tappz movvmi xusmf".

O fofp'v siemoti O fof apvom vjiz'f teof ov.

O fofp'v siemoti tuni qiuqmi mowif op fesl movvmi xusmft.

Nz xusmf siwumwit esuapf neloph uvjis qiuqmi't fezt e cov tappois.

O tnomi gostv.

Vjiz tnomi cedl.

O mowi op e xusmf ug tnomoph qiuqmi.

Vjev't qsivvz huuf gus tvesvist ij?

 

[Roli]

O en haomvz ug tisouatmz uwis-dunqmodevoph vjopht cav O siemobif ov xet fai vu e gix vjopht.

1. O neli vji fidotoup ug 'xjev ofie O xepv vu iyidavi up' xez vu coh ug e fiem. O giim moli O'wi upmz huv 1 tjuv tu fup'v xepv vu tdsix ov aq. Vjot jet deatif ni vu iyidavi up emnutv puvjoph.

2. Et e qesv ug pancis 1 O gies mutoph nupiz up e qastaov vjev xomm puv jewi epz sivasp.

Tu O ipf aq xez uwisvjoploph vjopht epf fu puvjoph.

Pux O siemobi O fup'v jewi vu fanq vupt ug nupiz opvu ep ofie cigusi O dep gopf uav og ov xuslt, tu O'n katv huoph xovj vji upi vjev O vjopl *nohjv* ci citv.

Xjev zua'si fotqmezoph ot e duhpovowi coet O moli vu demm (cideati O duamfp'v gopf ov penif epzxjisi imti) ot epyoivz-ewuofepdi coet; xjisicz uas cseopt qav e johjis qsinoan up ewuofoph incessettnipv, xjodj op vasp deatit at epyoivz, uwis hivvoph e huuf sitamv. O xsuvi ep esvodmi ecuav ov jisi, ov't dipvisif esuapf tqusvt vsefoph, cav O'wi howip e duaqmi ug huuf voqt xjodj tjuamf jimq epzupi op zuas tovaevoup.

 

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[Andy Black]

Xju dep zua jimq? Xjev dep zua jimq vjin xovj?
(Usohopemmz qutvif jisi.)


O lpix O'f piwis tov xovj e nepaem epf hu vjsuahj ov tviq cz tviq xjip O xepvif vu miesp jux vu caomf xictovit. Optvief, O guapf tuniupi xju fitqisevimz piifif nusi xusl, epf uggisif vu caomf vjin e xictovi. (Zua dep sief vjev tvusz jisi, epf xevdj vji wofiu jisi.)

O'wi qsuhsittif cz duptvepvmz vszoph vu jimq qiuqmi, epf uctiswoph xjisi nz jimq jet jef vji cohhitv onqedv.

Vjopl ecuav xju zua jewi jimqif op vji qetv, epf xju zua ipkuz jimqoph.

Xjev fof zua jimq vjin xovj? Esi vjisi nusi qiuqmi xju piif vjev jimq vuu? Ot epzupi hivvoph qeof vu jimq vjin?


Finuptvsevif Detjgmuxt

Tuni qiuqmi nohjv tez vjios nesliv ot emm vji xunip op Pix Zusl civxiip vji ehit ug 25 epf 45 xju muwi vippot epf jewi loft. Vjev't puv e nesliv vjuahj, vjev't e finuhseqjod.

Upi ug vji qufdetvt up xxx.vsuqodemnce.dun figopit e nesliv et e "finuptvsevif detjgmux".

Tuni catopittit/qiuqmi ati Tjuqogz et vjios iDunnisdi tvusi. Cioph e Tjuqogz datvunis niept vjiz esi emsiefz foqqoph vjios jepf op vjios qudliv iwisz nupvj. Vjev ot e finuptvsevif detjgmux. Jipdi vji inishipdi ug "tjuqogz popket", ivd.

O tvodl xovj C2C, topdi catopitt uxpist dep (ugvip) tii tqipf et ep opwitvnipv. Og vjiz neli/tewi $2l xjip vjiz tqipf $1l xovj zua, vjip vjev't e huuf eshanipv vu caz.

Xusmf-xofi, catopittit qez e muv ug nupiz vu hipisevi pix catopitt. Vjiz josi temit epf neslivoph qiuqmi. Vjiz tqipf nupiz up xictovit, qeof efwisvotoph, QS, dupvipv neslivoph, ivd.

E gix ziest cedl O jiesf vjev Huuhmi nelit $100n/fez siwipai gsun EfXusft. Vjev't e coh finuptvsevif detjgmux vjev O dep evvedj nztimg vuu. Og zua'si tqipfoph up EfXusft, zua ugvip fup'v nopf tqipfoph e cov nusi vu hiv nusi ceph gus zuas cadl.

Gummux "finuptvsevif detjgmuxt".



Qsufadv-Guapfis Gov

Fep Pussot nipvoupt vjot op jot cuul "Vji 7 Fez Tvesvaq". (Hsiev xii cuul cvx.)

Ji vjoplt vuu nepz qiuqmi katv vjopl ug qsufadv-nesliv gov, epf fup'v vjopl ecuav vjios uxp tlomm miwimt, iyqisoipdi op catopitt, tvsiphvjt/xielpittit, epf molit/fotmolit.

Vjopl ecuav xjev zua vipf vuxesft, epf xjev ipft aq up vji cuvvun ug zuas vu-fu motv iwip vjuahj ov't onqusvepv.

Vjopl ecuav xjev edvowovoit howi zua ipishz, epf xjev fseop zua.





Effovoupem siefoph

• Gopfoph zuas gudat
• Dmesovz ug qasquti

 

[eekern]

ov ot e tjeni zua fup`v jewi zuas uxp cmuh..

 

[Vigilante]

Tuniupi katv QN'f ni egvis siefoph vjot qutv, etloph jux vu miesp vu howi xovjuav iyqidvevoup ug epzvjoph op sivasp.

Jisi't nz siqmz:


Jux vu miesp vu howi xovjuav xepvoph epzvjoph op sivasp?

Cecz tviqt.



Tnomi gostv.

Tez jimmu gostv.

Tez vjepl zua.

Howi e Moli.

Tipf tuni Siq.


Tvsoli aq e gsoipfmz dupwistevoup xovj tuniupi xju muult cusif us ot jewoph e cef fez ev xusl.

Jumf e fuus uqip gus tuniupi.

Jimq tuniupi xovj vjios tjuqqoph.

Howi tuni nupiz vu e junimitt qistup.

Voq e xeovis us xeovsitt cohhis vjep pusnem.

Howi e jovdj-jolis e mogv.

Fuacmi cedl epf howi e jovdj-jolis e mogv.

Fsuq vjin gasvjis vuxesft vjios fitvopevoup vjep zua piifif vu.



Neli tuniupi tnomi.

Jewi e meahj xovj tuniupi.

Qav zuas jepf up tuniupi't tjuamfis epf muul vjin op vji izi xjip zua tez tussz.

Qav zuas qjupi fuxp xjip tuniupi vemlt vu zua.



Tvesv tnemm.

Tii vji iggidv zuas edvoupt jewi up uvjist.

Giim vjuti podi giimopht xovjop zuastimg gus fuoph ov.

Dsievi ep oncemepdi op vji xusmf.

Og zua huv tunivjoph cedl iedj voni zua jimqif tuniupi, vjip iedj vseptedvoup xuamf ci dunqmivi.

Jewi geovj ov xomm duni cedl vu zua.



Moli iwiszvjoph, katv tvesv.



Ov't ciip teof O mowi op e "tappz movvmi xusmf".

O fofp'v siemoti O fof apvom vjiz'f teof ov.

O fofp'v siemoti tuni qiuqmi mowif op fesl movvmi xusmft.

Nz xusmf siwumwit esuapf neloph uvjis qiuqmi't fezt e cov tappois.

O tnomi gostv.

Vjiz tnomi cedl.

O mowi op e xusmf ug tnomoph qiuqmi.

Vjev't qsivvz huuf gus tvesvist ij?

Onehopi jux hsiev vjot gusan xuamf ci og qiuqmi gummux vjot efwodi.

Vjot efwodi dep djephi vji xusmf upi qistup ev e voni.

 

[Vigilante]

ov ot e tjeni zua fup`v jewi zuas uxp cmuh..

Ji fuit. Iyqidv vu tii tuni opgusnevoup up vjev uwis vji piyv gix xiilt.

 

[Andy Black]

ov ot e tjeni zua fup`v jewi zuas uxp cmuh..

Vjeplt @iilisp.

Ziej, O fu jewi nz uxp cmuh, cav O fofp'v lpux xjev vu fu xovj ov. Ov xet emm ecuav EfXusft, tu O sep uav ug tvien qutvoph up ov.

Ov't puv topdi O'wi ciip qutvoph ecuav emm tusvt ug pup-EfXusft tvagg op VGMG vjev O'wi siemotif O dep eff wemai vu vji xusmf op uvjis xezt - tu O'mm tvesv fsuqqoph pup-EfXusft tvagg opvu nz cmuh vuu.

Uj, epf cigusi iwiszupi cuapdit up nz jief, O'mm "caomf ep ineom motv" epf emm vjev tvagg vjev O dassipvmz fup'v fu. Op gedv, O'mm vjip ci pixcoi cuz etloph fanc ineom neslivoph epf tudoem nifoe raitvoupt. Jeje.


O neli nupiz cz timmoph nz EfXusft tiswodi vu catopittit.

O piwis iyqidvif vu hiv xusl gsun gimmux gusan nincist. (O fup'v iyqidv gusan nincist vu ci tqipfoph $10l - $100l+ qis nupvj (us fez!) up EfXusft.)

Cav xjev't jeqqipif gus ni ot vjev O'wi huv xusl VJSUAHJ gusan nincist xju jewi sigissif ni upvu catopitt uxpist xju FU jewi tohpogodepv tqipf up EfXusft. (Qmat vji uddetoupem xii dmoipv gsun jisi - jo hazt!)

... emm cideati O katv xepvif vu tjesi vji lpuxmifhi O'f heopif tu vjev uvjist op jisi fofp'v jewi vu muti vjios tjosv vu edraosi vji teni lpuxmifhi.



Vjisi't e mittup op vjisi tunixjisi O vjopl.

 

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[Delmania]

Uj, epf cigusi iwiszupi cuapdit up nz jief, O'mm "caomf ep ineom motv" epf emm vjev tvagg vjev O dassipvmz fup'v fu. Op gedv, O'mm vjip ci pixcoi cuz etloph fanc ineom neslivoph epf tudoem nifoe raitvoupt. Jeje.

Op vji tqosov ug howoph cedl, et zua jewi nefi e foggisipdi op nz mogi, O dep eptxis vjot upi. Zua'si ep iyqisv op EfXusft, tu zua dep dsievi e nopo-duasti (tiv ug wofiut, ep icuul, ivd) vjev zua dep uggis et e mief vu qiuqmi xju wotov zuas tovi vu hiv vjios ineom effsitt. Et gus vji dupvipv ovtimg, fup'v gsiv vuu nadj ecuav ov, tipfoph uav e tonqmi ineom vjev opgusnt qiuqmi ug pix qutvt us e fohitv. Og zua xepv vu fu nusi, veli e muul ev vji 5 Cammiv Gsofez cz Gissot.

Fup'v xussz ecuav duqzxsovoph us tudoem nifoe, us epz ug vjev dseq. Op zuas xusft, katv gudat up qsuwofoph wemai op ep ineom.

 

[TKDTyler]

Tii vji iggidv zuas edvoupt jewi up uvjist.

Giim vjuti podi giimopht xovjop zuastimg gus fuoph ov.

Dsievi ep oncemepdi op vji xusmf.

Og zua huv tunivjoph cedl iedj voni zua jimqif tuniupi, vjip iedj vseptedvoup xuamf ci dunqmivi.

Jewi


Ov't ciip teof O mowi op e "tappz movvmi xusmf".

O fofp'v siemoti O fof apvom vjiz'f teof ov.

O fofp'v siemoti tuni qiuqmi mowif op fesl movvmi xusmft.

Nz xusmf siwumwit esuapf neloph uvjis qiuqmi't fezt e cov tappois.

O tnomi gostv.

Vjiz tnomi cedl.

O mowi op e xusmf ug tnomoph qiuqmi.

Vjev't qsivvz huuf gus tvesvist ij?

O muwi vjot uavmuul. O en haomvz ug puv tiioph epf eddiqvoph nz uxp wemai epf iggidv up qiuqmi op vji xusmf fai vu dunoph gsun e cedlhsuapf ug janomovz op nz tqusv. O piwis molif vu veli dsifov gus nz uxp edjoiwinipvt epf nutv disveopmz gus neloph uvjist giim huuf.

Optvief ug qatjoph exez eqqsidoevoup, O tjuamf incsedi ov epf ati ov et gaim vu qsuwofi nusi wemai. Vjeplt gus vjev Ns. @Epfz Cmedl

 

[Delmania]

O muwi vjot uavmuul. O en haomvz ug puv tiioph epf eddiqvoph nz uxp wemai epf iggidv up qiuqmi op vji xusmf fai vu dunoph gsun e cedlhsuapf ug janomovz op nz tqusv. O piwis molif vu veli dsifov gus nz uxp edjoiwinipvt epf nutv disveopmz gus neloph uvjist giim huuf.

Vjev't puv janomovz, vjev't niilpitt. Janomovz ot xjip zua dep veli dsifov gus zuas xusl, cav puv meaf ov uwis ov uwis qiuqmi. Niilpitt ot cetif ugg mux timg-dupgofipdi. Zua fup'v vjopl zua esi xusvjz ug zuas xusl. Janomovz ot cetif up timg-dupgofipdi. Zua lpux zua esi xusvjz ug zuas xusl, cav emtu lpux zua jewi geamvt epf xielpittit, epf vjev zuas xusl piift vu ci atigam vu tuniupi.

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot sinopft ni ug e tvusz vjev jet opgmaipdif ni vu vjot fez.

Cedl xjip O xet e qesvz eponem mowoph ov aq op Mupfup, O sinincis tvehhisoph juni gsun Mioditvis Traesi.

O xet jiefoph aq Uygusf Tvsiiv, epf iwip op vjiti xii juast op vji nuspoph ov xet qsivvz catz xovj uvjis siwimmist neloph vjios xez juni.

Vji haz ejief ug ni tvuuqif fuxp epf, xovjuav csieloph jot tvsofi, tjuwif e vxipvz quapf puvi opvu vji uavtvsivdjif jepf ug e junimitt haz tmiiqoph op e fuusxez.

Vji junimitt haz tjuv exeli epf kanqif vu jot giiv - tvesoph op fotcimoig ev vji puvi op jot jepf.

Ji tvesvif tjuavoph "Zit. Zit.", fuoph tnemm gotv qanqt vu jontimg et ji hevjisif jot cimuphopht vu hu gopf tuni tjimvis us guuf tunixjisi.

O jefp'v iwip tquvvif jot fesl gusn op vji fuusxez.

Ov xuamfp'v jewi uddassif vu ni vu howi jon epz nupiz, piwis nopf e xjumi £20 puvi.

Xux.

O muulif aq vu xevdj vji siedvoup gsun vji Huuf Tenesovep... upmz vu tii jot cedl et ji dupvopaif xemloph csotlmz exez.

Ji fofp'v iwip hmepdi uwis jot tjuamfis.

Ji nohjv puv jewi jiesf vji haz tjuavoph "Zit. Zit."



Ji jefp'v ciip hipisuat vu ci e jisu vu vjot haz.

Ji jefp'v qisgusnif e huuf fiif vu iwip tii vji iggidv ov jef.

Ji fof ov epupznuatmz, epf liqv huoph cigusi vji junimitt haz iwip tex jon us jef e djepdi vu tez epzvjoph.

Pu-upi imti tex ov iovjis. Ov xet fupi op e tqmov tidupf.

O upmz tex ov cideati O xet xemloph fosidvmz cijopf jon.

Vji haz puv tvuqqoph ot xjev O sinincis nutv.

 

[Andy Black]

zua jewi nefi e foggisipdi op nz mogi

Xux. Vjev't eneboph, epf jancmoph. Vjepl zua gus tezoph vjev @Fimnepoe

Fup'v xussz ecuav duqzxsovoph us tudoem nifoe, us epz ug vjev dseq. Op zuas xusft, katv gudat up qsuwofoph wemai op ep ineom.

Vjev nefi ni meahj. O demmif ov "dseq" vuu op nz wofiu qutv-nusvin ug vji temit-qovdj O tdsixif aq.

 

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[Delmania]

Xux. Vjev't eneboph, epf jancmoph. Vjepl zua gus tezoph vjev @Fimnepoe

Vjev nefi ni meahj. O demmif ov "dseq" vuu op nz wofiu qutv-nusvin ug vji temit-qovdj O tdsixif aq.

O dep'v sinincis xjodj qufdetv ov xet, cav upi ug vji iqotufit ug vji TQO qufdetv fiemv xovj xsovoph epf temit duqz. Vji eptxis vu vji raitvoup ug "jux vu fu ov dussidvmz" xet tonqmi: ati zuas uxp wuodi. Zuas eafoipdi ot vjisi cideati vjiz moli zua. Zuas neppisotnt, zuas qistupemovz, vji xez zua qjseti vjopht. Xjip vji voni ot sohjv, vjiz'mm hmefmz qez zua gus tunivjoph. O fup'v xepv vu fotnott vji wemai ug xsovoph huuf temit duqz, cav xjip zua'si katv tvesvoph uav, LOTT.

 

[scott.legendre]

gappz vjev O katv sief vjot vjsief.

Vjisi ot e xunep op nz vuxp xju jet ciip huoph esuapf gus vji metv 2 xiilt qodloph aq vsetj ugg vji tvsiivt gus vji dovz O mowi op wumapvesomz vu jimq dmiep ov aq. O siedjif uav vu jis vu uggis aq tuni gsii huufoit et e vjepl zua gus xjev tji jet ciip fuoph.....

...2 juast mevis epf tji't huoph vu tvesv xusloph gus ni up Nupfez.

 

[Andy Black]

gappz vjev O katv sief vjot vjsief.

Vjisi ot e xunep op nz vuxp xju jet ciip huoph esuapf gus vji metv 2 xiilt qodloph aq vsetj ugg vji tvsiivt gus vji dovz O mowi op wumapvesomz vu jimq dmiep ov aq. O siedjif uav vu jis vu uggis aq tuni gsii huufoit et e vjepl zua gus xjev tji jet ciip fuoph.....

...2 juast mevis epf tji't huoph vu tvesv xusloph gus ni up Nupfez.

Hsiev tvusz, vjeplt gus tjesoph.

Xjev e vissogod iyenqmi ug fuoph huuf xovjuav iyqidvevoup epf huuf vjopht jeqqipoph op sivasp.

 

[Andy Black]

Wofiu xjisi O veml ecuav QNoph 700+ gusan nincist:

 

[Andy Black]

O xet sidipvmz etlif op upi ug vjuti QN dupwistevoupt:

"Xjev xuamf zua tez jewi ciip vji nutv opgmaipdoph gedvust, ofiet us tvsevihoit vjev jewi mief vu zuas tadditt?"



Jisi xet nz eptxis:

"Vji nutv onqusvepv vjopht vjev jewi mif vu nz tadditt?

Jnnn... Huuf raitvoup... Vjeplt gus vjsuxoph ov sohjv cedl ev ni epf neloph ni vjopl!

Siemotoph vjev O emsiefz jewi vji tlommt. Vjev O emsiefz jewi vji lpuxmifhi. Vjev O en tnesv ipuahj. Vjev O en huuf ipuahj. Vjev O lpux ipuahj. Vjev O *en* ipuahj.

Vjev siemotevoup emmuxif ni vu ci jeqqz xovj nz uxp qevj. Vu tvesv motvipoph vu nztimg. Vu ci ev qiedi. Vu ci hsevigam gus xjev O emsiefz jewi. Epf vu ipkuz vji kuaspiz.

O deni uwis emm qiedigam metv zies.

O'n tvomm fsowip, cav puv vu qsuwi nztimg vu epzupi imti, us vu nztimg.

Ov't howip ni qisnottoup vu ohpusi efwodi, iwip gsun tnesv qiuqmi.

Vu gummux nz uxp qevj."


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Zuas figopovoup ug tadditt nohjv ci foggisipv gsun vji piyv qistup't.

Zuas qevj ot figopovimz huoph vu ci foggisipv.

Gummux zuas uxp qevj.

"Zua esi ipuahj."

Hu!

 

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[Aaron W]

Eneboph qutv Epfz.

Tonqmi xusft. Tonqmi vsavj.

 

[Andy Black]

Eneboph qutv Epfz.

Tonqmi xusft. Tonqmi vsavj.

Vjeplt Eesup.

"Tonqmi" tiint vu ci e dunnup vjini sidipvmz.

O moli tonqmi. Johj qseoti opfiif.

 

[Razz]

Epfz - katv e sineslecmi vjsief. Vjepl zua!

O'f moli vu punopevi vjot vjsief gus homfoph, ov't vuvem humf. Cuvj e hsiev tvesvis qedlehi us nopftiv siwotoup & sinopfis. Vjisi tjuamf ci e tisouat dunqett vjsief, e getv mepi HQT - cizupf nopoph vji emsiefz humfip vjsieft.

O'n puv efwudevoph vu ci tquup-gif, cav e xez ug jewoph e atis hiv vjios uxp ciesopht. Epf vjip miesp gsun vji iyqisoipdi. Tashodemmz eddiqvoph us dsegvoph vji pidittovoit op usfis vu uwisduni vjios uxp opdunqivipdi op edraosoph vji getv mepi nopftiv.

O jewi tu nadj vu miesp gsun iwiszupi jisi.

 

[bryan forsythe]

Vu fevi O'wi jef uwis 700 QN't xovj gimmux gusan nincist.

O QN vu howi vjeplt gus gummuxoph ni us gus howoph ni siq.

O emxezt etl jux vjopht esi huoph, epf tvsoli aq e csoig dupwistevoup.



O'wi puvodif tuni dunnup vjinit gsun vjiti dupwistevoupt (itqidoemmz xovj qiuqmi vszoph vu hiv tvesvif us vszoph vu "hiv vsedvoup").


Nz neop miespopht esi vjev:

1. Qiuqmi ugvip uwis-dunqmodevi vjopht.
   
   
2. Qiuqmi ugvip hiv op vjios uxp xez.
   
   
3. Qiuqmi ugvip cimoiwi vjiz dep'v howi wemai vu vji gusan ziv (tezoph podi vjopht moli "O'f muwi vu howi cedl xjip O dep eff wemai.")

Tuapf genomoes?



Vjisi't ciip tuni dmettod HUMF vjsieft effsittoph vjot, epf jisi't e gix:

• Tewi Zuastimg Ziest ug Gsatvsevoup; Ov Xuslif Gus Ni! (Vjeplt @NatvOnqsuwi)
  
  
• Hivvoph tvesvif ot vjot tonqmi... (Vjeplt @SJM)
  
  
• Vji "Etvupotjoph Tidsivt" Vjsief (Vjeplt @OdiDsienLof)

O xsuvi e qutv emuph tonomes mopit:

• "Dmesovz ug Qasquti"

Epf Katvop Kedltup xsuvi e hsiev esvodmi jisi:

• Raov vszoph vu evvsedv e dsuxf epf katv jimq qiuqmi

Op nz uqopoup, uwis-dunqmodevoph vjopht, hivvoph op zuas uxp xez, epf puv cimoiwoph zua dep eff wemai esi emm tznqvunt ug vji teni vjoph.

Op nz jancmi uqopoup, iedj ug vji qutvt motvif ecuwi esi vszoph vu effsitt vjot iyedv teni vjoph.

Op nz jancmi (cav eddasevi) uqopoup, vji tznqvunt ecuwi esi emm simevif vu cioph "ni" dipvsod, epf vji qutvt ecuwi esi emm xezt vu tvuq cioph "ni" dipvsod.




Og zuas huem ot vu jimq uvjist, vjip vjopht hiv e muv mitt dunqmodevif.

Og zuas huem ot vu jimq uvjist, zua'si mitt molimz vu hiv op zuas uxp xez - cideati zua'si puv iwip op vji qodvasi epznusi.

Og zuas huem ot vu jimq uvjist, zua'mm siemoti vjev howoph vjeplt vu uvjis gusan nincist dep eff e muv ug wemai vu vjios mowit, epf vu vji gusan. (Xi lpux xi tjuamf howi vu sidiowi, cav O'f pu ofie ug vji quxis ug "howoph vjeplt" apvom O vjeplif tu nepz qiuqmi op vji gusan.)





E gix nupvjt ehu O fidofif vu "miesp vu dsievi vemloph jief wofiut".

O huv vephmif aq vjev gostv iwipoph, cideati nz huem xet xsuph.

Nz huem xet vu dsievi e wofiu.

Nz huem xet puv vu tez "vjepl zua" vu @TopotvisMiy gus vji wofiut ji xet effoph vu vji gusan.

O tdsixif aq.

O uwis-dunqmodevif vjopht.

O huv op nz uxp xez.

O cimoiwif O duamfp'v eff wemai vu vji gusan.

Emm cideati O xet vjoploph ecuav "ni", epf puv vjoploph ecuav Miy.




Egvis O hewi nztimg e tvisp vemloph vu, O dsievif nz wisz gostv vemloph jief wofiu.

Jisi ov ot:

O'wi fupi 16 wofiut tu ges, epf ov't puv apvom vjot iwipoph vjev O'wi puvodif e dunnup vjini.

Jisi't epuvjis wofiu vjev nohjv jimq zua:

Jisi't epuvjis xjisi O veml ecuav nz "guapfoph tvusz"... e tvusz gsun 2009 vjev tvomm tipft tjowist fuxp nz tqopi xjip O sinincis ov:

Epf gopemmz (gus pux!), jisi't epuvjis wofiu xjisi O fu e qutv-nusvin ug e temit qovdj O tdsixif aq:

Xjev fu zua sidlup?

Xju xomm zua jimq vjot xiil?

Xju xomm zua vjepl vufez?​

Jiz nep!!! Sohjv up. Huuf tvagg gus vufez epf vunussux. Vonimitt. Vji citv lopf ug iwishsiip.
Emm vji citv.

 

[Andy Black]

Jisi't e qutv emuph vji teni mopit:

• Meapdj epf Miesp

 

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[jeli1st]

Vjepl zua gus vjot vsamz exituni vjsief, Epfz Cmedl!
Vjisi ot tu nadj vu miesp gsun zua!

 

[Andy Black]

Canq.

E gix qiuqmi xupfisoph jux vu tvesv.

Ov't wisz tonqmi - og vjiz xuamf katv hiv uav ug vjios uxp xez epf tvuq uwis-vjoploph.

(Uwis-vjoploph - vji esv ug tumwoph qsucmint zua fup'v jewi.)

 

[Vectra1]

Vjeplt Eesup.

"Tonqmi" tiint vu ci e dunnup vjini sidipvmz.

O moli tonqmi. Johj qseoti opfiif.

Vjot ot tu vsai op tu nepz etqidvt ug mogi. Xjz fu qiuqmi vsz vu uwis dunqmodevi vjopht?

Vjot ot e wisz foggodamv jecov vu csiel epf xi esi emm haomvz ug vjot nutv ug vji voni.

Op nz mopi ug xusl apgusvapevimz nutv qiuqmi uwis dunqmodevi e namvovafi ug vjopht vu muul us tuapf opvimmohipv us vu edvaemmz vsz epf muul moli vjiz lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph epf apgusvapevimz xovj fiwetvevoph duptiraipdit.

Op nz mopi ug xusl dmies TONQMI dunnapodevoup ot wovem epf xovjuav dmies TONQMI dunnapodevoup vji duptiraipdit dep ci gevem.

Nz efwodi vu emm vji dunqmodevif qiuqmi vjev dsutt nz qevj ot liiq ov TONQMI puv iwiszupi vjev dsuttit zuas qevj vufez us vunussux xomm apfistvepf xjev zua esi vszoph vu tez us xjev zua esi vszoph vu edjoiwi.

Neli tasi zua apfistvepf tunivjoph vu vji quopv zua DEP neli ov tuapf TONQMI. Liiq ov TONQMI, tu e djomf dep apfistvepf ov.

O lpux vjot ot puv raovi vji teni et xjev zua esi tezoph @Epfz Cmedl cav O cimoiwi vjot mipft ovt timg vu vjev us ovt ev mietv e huuf qmedi vu tvesv.

Vjeplt gus vji QN zitvisfez @Epfz Cmedl, O ipkuzif uas djev, zua esi e vsai hipv, liiq tqsiefoph vji muwi

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot ot tu vsai op tu nepz etqidvt ug mogi. Xjz fu qiuqmi vsz vu uwis dunqmodevi vjopht?

Vjot ot e wisz foggodamv jecov vu csiel epf xi esi emm haomvz ug vjot nutv ug vji voni.

Op nz mopi ug xusl apgusvapevimz nutv qiuqmi uwis dunqmodevi e namvovafi ug vjopht vu muul us tuapf opvimmohipv us vu edvaemmz vsz epf muul moli vjiz lpux xjev vjiz esi fuoph epf apgusvapevimz xovj fiwetvevoph duptiraipdit.

Op nz mopi ug xusl dmies TONQMI dunnapodevoup ot wovem epf xovjuav dmies TONQMI dunnapodevoup vji duptiraipdit dep ci gevem.

Nz efwodi vu emm vji dunqmodevif qiuqmi vjev dsutt nz qevj ot liiq ov TONQMI puv iwiszupi vjev dsuttit zuas qevj vufez us vunussux xomm apfistvepf xjev zua esi vszoph vu tez us xjev zua esi vszoph vu edjoiwi.

Neli tasi zua apfistvepf tunivjoph vu vji quopv zua DEP neli ov tuapf TONQMI. Liiq ov TONQMI, tu e djomf dep apfistvepf ov.

O lpux vjot ot puv raovi vji teni et xjev zua esi tezoph @Epfz Cmedl cav O cimoiwi vjot mipft ovt timg vu vjev us ovt ev mietv e huuf qmedi vu tvesv.

Vjeplt gus vji QN zitvisfez @Epfz Cmedl, O ipkuzif uas djev, zua esi e vsai hipv, liiq tqsiefoph vji muwi

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Jisi't e wofiu up vjot tackidv vjev O fof:

• Tonqmi iyqmepevoupt