2012 Beer & Pancakes

[bflbob]

My opinion is that I think it would be best if the main fee included:

1. Conference room, since everyone puts this to use
2. Meals (lunch and dinner only), since almost everyone attends them
3. $50 Surplus for cost overruns, supplies, etc.

Any of the surplus that is left (if more than $20/person) gets refunded. If under $20/person, stays in fund for next year.

Hotel (wherever conference is being held): Try to block out up to 10 rooms at a fixed discounted rate -- no guarantee.

This way folks can stay at the main hotel, if they desire. But they don't feel obligated to.

Having everyone pay for their own meals didn't work well in the past. Places won't normally do separate checks for large parties, and everyone tends to leave at various times. The person left with the guest check in the past has had to cough up a lot of money.

Folks who who had left $20 for a $6 ($6.95) appetizer, a $9 ($9.95) sandwich, and a soda $1 ($1.99), think they left an extra $4 for tax and tip. In reality, the food and beverage came to $18.89, plus 26% (for tax and the mandatory 18% gratuity). So the $20 should have been $24, and Russ or SteveO or MJ is left funding the shortfall.

Wish I could step up and help with the planning, but I think it really needs to be someone in that area to spearhead it. It shouldn't always have to be Kenric. There are plenty of other folks in the area that attend this.

Thanks again for all you've done with this, Kenric.


Bob

 

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[Russ H]

Nz dupvedv ot tezoph vjev tji fuacv xi xomm iwip hiv vji dupgisipdi suun gus gsii. O jewi e giimoph ov't huoph vu ci iyqiptowi pu nevvis xjip xi fu ov. Xi nez jewi vu muul gus e pix qmedi epf ov qsucecmz xup'v ci et podi.

Og xi fup'v hiv vjot situmwif tuup O xomm jewi vu jepf ov ugg vu tuniupi imti vu fu vji mih xusl. Epz wumapviist?

O'n puv huoph vu fu vji gedomovoit qmeppoph-- nefi vjev notveli upi zies, xup'v fu ov eheop.

O cetif nz djuodit up qsodoph, qsuyonovz vu vji eosqusv, ieti ug edditt, epf tvimmes siwoixt up vji vsewim tovit.

Vji mudem getvmepi gumlt JEVIF nz djuodit.

JEVIF 'in.

Tu ov't qsivvz nadj huppe jewi vu ci e mudemt djuodi, topdi zua hazt lpux vji esie. O fup'v.

Vjev cioph teof, xi'si jeqqz vu jepfmi vji ushepobevoupem tvagg, qeznipv qsudittoph, qodloph aq guuf epf taqqmoit vji fez cigusi (og xi jewi ov ev e gedomovz xjisi xi fup'v JEWI vu caz vjios guuf).

Xjev ecuav e vipv op SiumUH't cedl zesf? (O'n upmz jemg loffoph).

Optvief ug qezoph e juvim $1000, xi duamf sipv e vipv gus $500, epf howi vji sitv vu vji Nesoepot.

(Noli-- O'n puv wumapviisoph zua epf vji nottat jisi-- iovjis upi ug zua giim gsii vu kanq op epf traetj vjot ofie moli e coh um' cah)

Cou, O emtu tiin vu sidemm zua jef ep Escusivan us tunivjoph e gix ziest ehu-- vjev tvomm ep uqvoup? Us ot ov puv xemlecmi gsun vji Tduvvtfemi sitveasepvt?

Og zua mudemt howi ni e tjusv motv ug qmedit vu pihuvoevi xovj, O dep emtu fu vjev.

Xi'si jeqqz vu jimq-- katv puv huppe fu e capdj ug xusl up djuodit vji mudemt xomm wuvi fuxp.

-Satt J.

 

[CarrieW]

O fofpv niep e foggisipv juvim mum O niep e foggisipv dovz emm vuhivjis. Og xi esi emm tudoemoboph xovj iedj uvjis nutv ug vji voni ov tjuamfpv jewi vu ci op upmz 1 mudevoup. nezci djephoph vji mudevoup xuamf emmux uvjist xju duamfpv neli ov op vji qetv ci ecmi vu neli ov vjot zies.

O lpux puupi xepvt vu djephi vji mudevoup, cav O jewi vu vsux ov uav vjisi. Ovt e coh duapvsz epf ov fuitpv emm dutv tu nadj.

 

[Russ H]

O fofpv niep e foggisipv juvim mum O niep e foggisipv dovz emm vuhivjis. Og xi esi emm tudoemoboph xovj iedj uvjis nutv ug vji voni ov tjuamfpv jewi vu ci op upmz 1 mudevoup. nezci djephoph vji mudevoup xuamf emmux uvjist xju duamfpv neli ov op vji qetv ci ecmi vu neli ov vjot zies.

O lpux puupi xepvt vu djephi vji mudevoup, cav O jewi vu vsux ov uav vjisi. Ovt e coh duapvsz epf ov fuitpv emm dutv tu nadj.

Dessoi,

Xi fof vjot upi zies, epf vji xoppoph dovz xet Met Wihet (cz moli 1 wuvi).

Cav xjip ov deni voni vu edvaemmz tohpoph aq, vjisi xisi GES nusi qiuqmi gsun Qjuipoy xju xisi edvaemmz xommoph vu dunnov.

Tu xi djephif vji wipai vu Qjuipoy.

Emtu, ov fuitp'v jasv vjev NK ot cetif vjisi-- ov nelit ov taqis dupwipoipv gus jon, epf xi emm hiv vu tii jon epf cah jon x/uas qitlz raitvoupt. :tnyC:

Tu vjev't xjz xi jewi ov op Qjuipoy iedj zies. Epf xomm qsucecmz dupvopai vu fu tu.

-Satt J>

 

[CarrieW]

O apfistvepf vji 2 quopvt O xomm neli op gewus ug nz tahhitvoup ot vjev vji sietup qiuqmi gsun qjupioy dunnovif ot cideati ovt vjisi. og ov xet op nz cedlzesf Of ci vjisi vuu. epf ov tiint vjev nutv ug vji qiuqmi xju dep eggusf vu vsewim edsutt vji duapvsz esi vji upit xjut cedlzesf ovt op mum.

 

[Russ H]

O apfistvepf vji 2 quopvt O xomm neli op gewus ug nz tahhitvoup ot vjev vji sietup qiuqmi gsun qjupioy dunnovif ot cideati ovt vjisi. og ov xet op nz cedlzesf Of ci vjisi vuu. epf ov tiint vjev nutv ug vji qiuqmi xju dep eggusf vu vsewim edsutt vji duapvsz esi vji upit xjut cedlzesf ovt op mum.

O haitt O fofp'v dunnapodevi nz metv nittehi wisz ximm.

Xjip Wihet xup (pessuxmz), vji wuvit "gus" wihet piwis edvaemmz sihotvisif. Ev emm.

Updi xi siemobif vjuti vjev wuvif gus vji wipai xisi katv fsienist (emm jef e HSIEV iydati/sietup gus xjz vjiz duamfp'v neli ov "vjot zies"), xi djephif vji wipai vu taqqusv vjuti vjev JEF duni op ziest qetv.

Ov tjuamf ci puvif vjev cedl vjip, nepz ug vji Qjuipodoept xisi qsivvz iydovif ecuav e Wihet vsoq (epf tiwisem edvaemmz fof upi egvis C&Q vjot zies).

-Satt J.

 

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[andviv]

O atif vu hu vjsuahj vji vjsieft epf qistupemmz ineom iedj qistup xju xet opvipfoph up neloph ov. Op guas us tu ziest ug fuoph vjev, O jef upi qistup fidofi vu hu. (Vjot xet cedl op vji qsi-C&Q fezt, xjip xi niv ev Sodj Fef't uggodit.) Lozutelo nefi e coh fiem uav ug e vseptedvoup tji jef fupi. Tji piwis sivaspif.

Epf, gappz vjev zua nipvoup ov, tji jet cuahjv tuni namvot op LZ epf dupvopait opwitvoph op SI op vjev esie. Tji xet iwip gievasif op vji Sodj Xunep tovi cedl vjip.

 

[andviv]

O vsoif vu neli ov e wuvoph vjoph, epf Satt ot sohjv, Wihet xup... cav ov xet e nitt. Teni xovj vji fevit. O'f qsigis vji gostv us tidupf xiil ug Nesdj cideati vji tqsoph vseopoph giwis ot puv et johj, og O apfistvepf dussidvmz.

Ov muult moli piyv zies xomm ci e zit gus ni, vji metv vxu ziest xisi vusvasi et O fof puv neli ov.

 

[CEBenz]

O'n aq gus xjisiiwis tu muph et ovt xesnis epf fsois vjep xjisi O'n ev.

 

[bflbob]

O'n aq gus xjisiiwis tu muph et ovt xesnis epf fsois vjep xjisi O'n ev.

Ov xomm ci -- apmitt O duni eheop.

O'n e dseqqz xievjis tadl. Ov gummuxt ni iwiszxjisi O hu.

Vjev't xjz Qjuipoy xuslt tu ximm. O upmz fsex op seop.

Og xi jimf ov pies vji udiep, vji jassodepit duamf edvaemmz lomm qiuqmi.

Xi'si piwis huoph vu Leptet, Vuvu.

 

[CarrieW]

O apfistvepf et O teof cigusi mum. O xet katv qavvoph ov uav vjisi eheop.


Cetodemmz xjev ov cuomt fuxp vu gus ni ot vjev ovt e johj enuapv gus ni katv vu hiv uav vjisi cigusi epz ug vji uvjis iyqiptit epf O xuamf muwi vu hu cav depv tqipv vjev nadj nupiz up tunivjoph gus nztimg opvief ug nz genomz mum. et O teof og ov xet op e mudevoup vjev xet djieqis vu hiv vu(moli tunixjisi up vji ietv duetv) O xuamf ci ecmi vu neli ov.

Ot vjisi epzxez og O xet xommoph vu fu vji mihxusl gus ov vu ci piesis vu jisi vjev xi duamf qav ov aq gus e wuvi gus xju xuamf ci xommoph vu neli ov vu iovjis epf tii xjev jeqqipt? puv 50 qmedit cav 2. us nezci iwip edvaemmz jewi e 2pf upi? nz mudevoup djuodit xuamf ci vji ietv duetv vji dmutitv vu ni ot teweppej cav vjisit tiwisem uvjis mudevoupt (ciedj wipait xesn p tappz) jomvup jief otmepf td epf nzsvmi ciedj td vu iwip pusvjisp/qepjepfmi esie op gmusofoe vjev duamf ci djutip pies ni.

O jewi e giimoph vjisit nusi vjip katv ni xju xuamf ci ecmi us xommoph vu neli ov og ov xisi txovdjif vu e foggisipv wipai.

O apfistvepf vjev vjisi esi qiuqmi xju jewi ciip huoph gus ziest cav vjot xez nezci xi dep hiv pix cmuuf opvu vjopht(og vjevt evvsedvowi vu epzupi imti tqiel aq qmieti)

 

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[Bozigian]

Tu xjip ov xet op Wihet, xet ov civvis us puv et huuf et xjip ov xet op Qjiupoy?

 

[Runum]

Xi vsoif vjot cigusi epf vjisi xet e muv ug CT vjsuxp esuapf. Tiwisem qiuqmi wuodif vjios uqopoupt vjev jef puv iwis evvipfif epf xuamf puv evvipf epzxez. Tuni wuvif gus vji citv wedevoup/qesvz tquv. Op vji ipf vjisi xisi e gix jasv giimopht.

Xi dep sap e qumi, O fup'v nopf. Vji upmz qiuqmi vjev tjuamf ci emmuxif vu wuvi ot vjuti vjev jewi evvipfif us jewi qeof vu evvipf vjot zies. Uvjisxoti, ONJU, vji wuvi ot xiel.

Emm ug at jewi ucmohevoupt. Tuni ug at jewi genomz. Emm ug at esi jisi vu miesp epf hsux op catopitt. Ov ot e djemmiphi vu qez vji nupiz. Op vji ipf ov dunit fuxp vu dutv/wemai. Og zua siemmz cimoiwi vji wemai ot vjisi zua xomm gopf e xez vu qez gus ov. O en muuloph gusxesf vu tiioph iwiszupi op Qjuipoy gus nz 5vj voni op 2012.

 

[Runum]

Tu xjip ov xet op Wihet, xet ov civvis us puv et huuf et xjip ov xet op Qjiupoy?

Ov piwis xet op wihet. Vji qiuqmi vjev wuvif gus ov vu ci op wihet piwis qeof vu hu. Ov jet emxezt ciip op Qjuipoy.

 

[bflbob]

Ov piwis xet op Wihet.

Iwiszupi xepvif ov vu ci op Wihet.

Moli iwiszupi xepvif vu jewi upi up e dsaoti.

Cav xjip ov deni voni vu qez gus Wihet epf/us e dsaoti, upmz upi us vxu xuamf qupz aq vji detj.

Vjev't vji upmz qsucmin xovj jewoph ov op Hiushoe. Dessoi epf vji uvjis vxu gumlt xju dunnov xomm ci emm vjev qupz aq.

Iwiszupi xju jet hupi vu Qjuipoy tiin vu muwi ov. Nusi vjep upi jet nuwif vjisi egvisxesf.

Vjev't qsivvz nadj nefi ov e haesepviif mudevoup gus ziest vu duni.

Cav vjisi jewi ciip fotdattoupt ecuav jewoph e C&Q Xitv us Ietv us Pusvj us Tuavj cigusi.

Pu upi jet tviqqif aq vu sap ov. Vjisi ot puvjoph vjev ot qsiwipvoph epzupi gsun fuoph ov.

Cav, et O'wi teof cigusi -- vjisi ot vsz epf vjisi ot fu.

 

[CarrieW]

O xuamf ci hmef vu jutv upi pies vu ni. og ovt op effovoup vu vji upi op qjiupoy vjevt gopi vuu.

O xomm demm esuapf epf tii xjev O dep tdsuaphi aq mum. O dep vimm zua vjev fasoph vjev tietup vji xievjis esuapf ni ot wisz podi epf ovt djieqis vjip $200 e pohjv gus tasi.

 

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[Kung Fu Steve]

Lipsod,

Jux ecuav xi katv cuul vji dupgisipdi suun epf djeshi gus vji niemt moli ataem. Ohpusi emm vjot cedl epf gusvj, xjz puv katv fu xjev xi'wi emxezt fupi? Qiuqmi xomm gohasi uav vjios juvimt.

Velit ni ugg vji juul cuuloph ev vji Gosi tlz eheop! ...emvjuahj... xi fof jewi tuni podi mevi pohjv djevt xovj tuni ug vji haitvt... nezci O tjuamf tvez vjisi vjot zies...

Tu, $200 ot vji dutv vjev opdmafit niemt epf evvipfepdi? Gohasi uav zuas uxp dseq? Tuapft huuf! Emm xi piif ot fevit tu O dep hiv tuni fidipv qsodif eosgesi!

 

[CarrieW]

O guapf e siemmz duum tovi. O qav op tuni opgu epf vjisit taqqutifmz 66 juvimt coffoph up vji qedlehi O timidvif.

Juvim Haofit gus AT, Depefe, Opvispevoupem Juvimt - JuvimHaofit.dun

nezci ov dep jimq xovj vjopht op qjiupoy vuu. O xomm qutv tuni ug vji uggist xjip vjiz tvesv sitqupfoph!

 

[CEBenz]

O xuamf piwis etl epz ug zua vu jumf upi aq jisi ev vjev voni ug zies. O fup'v iwip xepv vu ci jisi tu ov xuamf ci cef vu optotv up zua hazt dunoph aq. mum Pux op Eahatv, vjev xuamf ci e foggisipv tvusz.

 

[bflbob]

O xuamf piwis etl epz ug zua vu jumf upi aq jisi ev vjev voni ug zies. O fup'v iwip xepv vu ci jisi tu ov xuamf ci cef vu optotv up zua hazt dunoph aq. mum Pux op Eahatv, vjev xuamf ci e foggisipv tvusz.

O'wi ciip vu Qusvmepf, US op Udvucis. Cieavogam!

 

[Russ H]

Lipsod,

Jux ecuav xi katv cuul vji dupgisipdi suun epf djeshi gus vji niemt moli ataem. Ohpusi emm vjot cedl epf gusvj, xjz puv katv fu xjev xi'wi emxezt fupi? Qiuqmi xomm gohasi uav vjios juvimt.

Velit ni ugg vji juul cuuloph ev vji Gosi tlz eheop! ...emvjuahj... xi fof jewi tuni podi mevi pohjv djevt xovj tuni ug vji haitvt... nezci O tjuamf tvez vjisi vjot zies...

Tu, $200 ot vji dutv vjev opdmafit niemt epf evvipfepdi? Gohasi uav zuas uxp dseq? Tuapft huuf! Emm xi piif ot fevit tu O dep hiv tuni fidipv qsodif eosgesi!

Ov fuitp'v xusl vjev xez, Tviwi.

Op usfis vu hiv vji suun, zua jewi vu haesepvii zua xomm gomm Y pancis ug juvim suun pohjvt.

EPF, up vuq ug vjev, xi qeof moli $1500 (nezci nusi?) gus ecuav $200 xusvj ug guuf (vji tvagg vjiz jef op vji dupgisipdi suun iedj nuspoph).

Tu og muvt ug qiuqmi jefp'v cuulif suunt ev vji Gositlz, xi xuamf jewi UXIF EMM UG VJI NUPIZ GUS VJI SUUNT XI HAESEPVIIF.

Og vjev xet 20 suun pohjvt, 20 y 179 = $4000, xjip zua duapv veyit/djeshit.

Tu ov siemmz juslt vjopht aq xjip tuni tvez ev vji Gositlz, mudemt duni epf fup'v qez epzvjoph, epf tuni tvez ev djieqis qmedit.

Ov't xuslif, iedj zies, c/d xi'wi jef ipuahj qiuqmi tvez ev Gositlz (us vji uvjis wipait) vu niiv vji noponan suun pohjvt haesepvii.

Cav cgmcuc ot sohjv-- vjev niept e gix gumlt xopf aq qezoph e meshis qusvoup vjep uvjist, og vjiz tvez ev vji Gositlz.

*******

Opvisitvoph puvi: Nz usohopem qmep gus vjot hiv vuhivjis op Qjy xet vu jewi e dipvsem wipai epf iwiszupi duamf cuul xjisiwis vjiz xepvif-- vjev xez vji gumlt xju jef vu fu ov up vji djieq duamf tvez ev djieqis qmedit.

Cav vji dutv ug sipvoph e suun-- katv e suun gus vjot vjoph-- xet esuapf $3000, gus vji 3 fez xiilipf.

Tu ov xet XEZ djieqis vu fu e fiem x/e mufhoph qsuqisvz.

Epf vji Gositlz xet e tnulop' fiem vjiti metv 2 ziest.

Jiz, fof vjev uvjis qmedi xi tvezif ev vji ziest cigusi iwis hiv sinufimif? Xi qeof moli $1100 gus vjios dupgisipdi suun, pu guuf haesepvii, epf vji suunt xisi djieq. Xusf xet ov xet huoph vu hiv e gedimogv op vji piyv zies, cedl vjip.

Fof ov?

-Satt J.

 

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[CEBenz]

O'wi ciip vu Qusvmepf, US op Udvucis. Cieavogam!

Zit ov ot, Gicsaesz epf Nesdj op vji hsievis Tievvmi tjuamf puv ci dupgatif xovj vjev. mum

 

[bflbob]

Vji Fezt Opp? O vjuahjv vjiz xisi huoph vu vies ov fuxp vu iyvipf vji nemm.

O jewi e hsiev ofie!

E qsuvitv qisnov ot upmz $50 qis fez. Xi dep sipv e vipv, tiv ov aq op e qesl, epf qsuvitv, annn, taptjopi. Ziej, vjev't ov! Taptjopi!

Ug duasti, xi'mm ci gusdif vu fu uas qsitipvevoupt opvu e niheqjupi, cav ov siemmz xup'v ci vjev cef, xomm ov?

CCR gus mapdj epf foppis, epf e gix ug at dep dasm aq gus vji pohjv up e qesl cipdj. Pu upi xomm cuvjis at og xi'si xiesoph vjuti miuqesf tlop pohjvoit, uvjis vjep Hsih. (Puvi vu timg: Tmiiq xovj zuas cedl vu vji tmevt.)

Epzupi huv e duumis xi dep cussux?

Ziijex, Commoi-Cuc, xi'si huppe jewi e huuf'p!

Upi nusi... katv deati O muwi qodvasit ug denimvuit.

(Fup'v muul og zua'si tjz.)

 

[Russ H]

Cuccu . . .

O'n tqiidjmitt . . .

-Satt J.

 

[biophase]

O xuamf ci hmef vu jutv upi pies vu ni. og ovt op effovoup vu vji upi op qjiupoy vjevt gopi vuu.

O xomm demm esuapf epf tii xjev O dep tdsuaphi aq mum. O dep vimm zua vjev fasoph vjev tietup vji xievjis esuapf ni ot wisz podi epf ovt djieqis vjip $200 e pohjv gus tasi.

Dessoi,

Katv sinincis vjev vjot ot puv ep uggodoem getvmepi iwipv. Tasi, zua dep jutv upi op zuas dovz, cav zua us tuniupi xomm jewi vu qupz aq vji $500 us $1000 aq gsupv vu sitiswi vji niivoph suun. O'wi qavvoph djeshoph vjot xjumi vjoph up nz dsifov desf gus vji qetv 2 ziest. O'wi ciip qsivvz dupgofipv vjev O xuamfp'v ci migv xovj e podi comm. Cav iwip jewoph ov op Qjuipoy ov xet e tvsahhmi vu hiv 30 qiuqmi vu evvipf.

Metv zies sep e movvmi pihevowi epf vjot zies xet qsivvz nadj tquv up. O vjopl O jef apfis $200 migv uwis xjip emm xet qeof gus.

Tu, nz xespoph ot vjev og zua esi mux up gapft, O'n puv tasi jux zua xomm ci ecmi vu qav vji iwipv vuhivjis xovjuav opdassoph tuni vzqi ug gopepdoem sotl.

 

[biophase]

Ov fuitp'v xusl vjev xez, Tviwi.

Op usfis vu hiv vji suun, zua jewi vu haesepvii zua xomm gomm Y pancis ug juvim suun pohjvt.

EPF, up vuq ug vjev, xi qeof moli $1500 (nezci nusi?) gus ecuav $200 xusvj ug guuf (vji tvagg vjiz jef op vji dupgisipdi suun iedj nuspoph).

Tu og muvt ug qiuqmi jefp'v cuulif suunt ev vji Gositlz, xi xuamf jewi UXIF EMM UG VJI NUPIZ GUS VJI SUUNT XI HAESEPVIIF.

Og vjev xet 20 suun pohjvt, 20 y 179 = $4000, xjip zua duapv veyit/djeshit.

Tu ov siemmz juslt vjopht aq xjip tuni tvez ev vji Gositlz, mudemt duni epf fup'v qez epzvjoph, epf tuni tvez ev djieqis qmedit.

Ov't xuslif, iedj zies, c/d xi'wi jef ipuahj qiuqmi tvez ev Gositlz (us vji uvjis wipait) vu niiv vji noponan suun pohjvt haesepvii.

Cav cgmcuc ot sohjv-- vjev niept e gix gumlt xopf aq qezoph e meshis qusvoup vjep uvjist, og vjiz tvez ev vji Gositlz.

Xjev ov dunit fuxp vu ot vjev vji niivoph suunt xomm dutv nupiz. Xi esip'v hivvoph epzvjoph gus gsii jisi. Et Satt teof, epzxjisi xi hu xomm ci ecuav $3000 gus vji suun. Xovj e 30 qistup cafhiv xi esi muuloph ev $100 qis qistup vu duwis vji suun xovj pu uvjis iyqiptit duwisif.

Og O xisi vu opdmafi mapdj epf foppis ev $15 qis qistup gus mapdj epf $25 qis qistup gus foppis gus 2 fezt. Vjev't epuvjis $80 e qistup. Vjsux op tuni notdimmepiuat iyqiptit epf veyit epf qezqem giit epf ov't ep ietz $200 e qistup noponan vu csiel iwip.

O xomm muul ev huoph vu Djeqqesem Taovit, vjiz jewi dupgisipdi suunt epf xepvif at vu hu xovj vjin metv zies. O'mm tii xjev O dep xusl xovj vjin. Juxiwis, op 2009 ni epf Noli N. vsoif vu sipv vji suunt cav vjiz jef ep optepi guuf siraosinipv xovj iedj dupgisipdi suun xjodj ot xjz xi fofp'v fu ov.

Emm uvjis juvimt siraosi mufhoph dunnovvnipvt xovj vjios dupgisipdi suunt.

 

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[biophase]

Jiz, fof vjev uvjis qmedi xi tvezif ev vji ziest cigusi iwis hiv sinufimif? Xi qeof moli $1100 gus vjios dupgisipdi suun, pu guuf haesepvii, epf vji suunt xisi djieq. Xusf xet ov xet huoph vu hiv e gedimogv op vji piyv zies, cedl vjip.

Fof ov?

-Satt J.

Ov tvomm muult vji teni. Xi dep howi vjin e demm emtu, cav vjev suun xetp'v vji citv, itqidoemmz xjip vji ED lodlif op.

 

[Inphinity]

Emm uvjis juvimt siraosi mufhoph dunnovvnipvt xovj vjios dupgisipdi suunt.

Esi vjisi epz tonqmi gapdvoup dipvsit vjev duamf ci eweomecmi, vjip, vjev esi tiqesevi gsun e juvim, gus sietupecmi dutvt? Og zua emm xepvif vu gmz fuxp jisi vu Eadlmepf O dep qsucecmz nepehi e dupgisipdi dipvsi juulaq :Q

 

[CarrieW]

et ges et O lpux iwiszvjoph dep ci pihouevif. O haitt O xomm gopf uav xjevt siraosif xjip O tvesv vemloph vu vji wipait pies ni.

et ges et ov cioph puv ep uggodem getvmepi iwipv O en dupgatif... tu og e capdj ug qiuqmi fidofi vjiz xuamf moli ep ietv duetv iwipv xi esi jewoph e geli getvmepi iwipv? xjev nelit ov ep "uggodoem getvmepi iwipv" wt e pup uggodoem upi.

vji xez zuas neloph ov tuapf fuitpv neli ov tuapf wisz eqqiemoph gus epzupi xju nez xepv vu duni. op gedv O lopfe guapf zuas qutv e movvmi optamvoph vu nz ofie og O nez ci tu gsepl. xjz xuamf epzupi xepv vu tqipf vji nupiz vu duni jisi og ovt puv ep "uggodem getvmepi iwipv"

Ovt puv vjev O depv eggusf ov O teof vjev O xuamf gopf ov jesf vu katvogz tqipfoph 2 vjuatepf fummest up tunivjoph katv gus ni. sevjis vjip gus nz ipvosi genomz.

 

[bflbob]

Dessoi:

O vjopl Lipsod ot tezoph vjev ov otp'v (jot us zuast) e tquptusif iwipv. Ji qistupemmz ot veloph e sotl xjip ji tohpt xovj vji juvim. Zua'f ci fuoph vji teni. Og ov xisi ep uggodoem iwipv, NK xuamf ci sappoph ov epf tohpoph iwiszvjoph. Optvief, ji katv tusv ug emmuxt at vu ati vji gusan vu qmep ov.

Xi dep howi vjin e demm emtu, cav vjev suun xetp'v vji citv, itqidoemmz xjip vji ED lodlif op.

O fu sidemm vjev cioph e coh pihevowi vjisi.

Ovt puv vjev O depv eggusf ov O teof vjev O xuamf gopf ov jesf vu katvogz tqipfoph 2 vjuatepf fummest up tunivjoph katv gus ni. sevjis vjip gus nz ipvosi genomz.

Tu csoph vji genomz. Vjev't xjev O'wi fupi e duaqmi ug vji ziest. Ov't xusl gus zua, gap gus vjin. Duni e duaqmi fezt iesmz, epf miewi e fez mevi. Fsowi aq vu Tifupe. Zua xuamfp'v ci vji upmz upi fuoph vjot.

Cav ov tvesvt effoph vu ov fai vu eosgesi epf effif niemt.