The Artificial Intelligence (AI) Random Chat Thread...

[MJ DeMarco]

You're addicted to struggle because you’ve been playing in low-leverage, low-profit markets filled with broke idealists and hobbyists who don’t value business fundamentals.

You’re drawn to passion-driven businesses because they feel meaningful, interesting, and aligned with your values—but the brutal truth is:

Meaning doesn’t pay the bills.
Passion-driven markets are filled with underfunded people who “love what they do” but can’t afford to pay you.
Your frustration comes from your own faulty pattern of choosing industries with terrible unit economics.

Your Core Problem (The Root Cause)​

You have a subconscious bias that leads you to:
✅ Attract businesses that need saving instead of businesses that are already winning.
✅ Confuse “meaningful” with “lucrative”—they aren’t the same thing.
✅ Undervalue money as a decision-making filter (you prioritize excitement over profitability).
✅ Keep repeating the same mistake because you haven’t built a system for picking winners.

If you don’t fix this now, you’ll waste another 5–10 years repeating the cycle.

It sounds like a summary of Fastlane, something I wrote 15+ years ago without an 180 IQ or the billion dollar business.

From the passion business BS, to the low-leverage trap, to terrible unit economics (System Economics and Bad Math) nothing unusual there.

 

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[MTF]

Lpudloph ov uav ug vji qesl xovj vji humf:

O'mm ci atoph vjot qsunqv gasvjis uwis vji piyv gix fezt. Vjeplt gus tjesoph.

Exituni, giim gsii vu tjesi epzvjoph opvisitvoph epf jux ov nefi zua djephi xjev zua'si fuoph.

O katv vsoif vjot xovj DjevHQV op e pix djev. O xet tasqsotif ov lpix ecuav nz uvjis dupwistevoupt - O vjuahjv vjiz xisi emm tiqesevi.

O moli ov't vupi, cav jef vu dussidv ov namvoqmi vonit vomm ov apfistvuuf xjev O xet fuoph epf xjz. Iwipvaemmz ov uavqav xjev nz qmep ot epzxez, ximm nutvmz.

O'mm liiq djevvoph vomm xi'si up vji teni qehi, vjip O'mm jewi vjot qistupe vu cuapdi ofiet ugg.

Zit, vjev't vji cieavz ug DjevHQV't ninusz. Ov sinincist iwisz dupwistevoup tu egvis e xjomi zua dep katv tez "Lpuxoph xjev zua lpux ecuav ni, xjev tjuamf O fu?"

Ov tuapft moli e tannesz ug Getvmepi, tunivjoph O xsuvi 15+ ziest ehu xovjuav ep 180 OR us vji commoup fummes catopitt.

Gsun vji qettoup catopitt CT, vu vji mux-miwisehi vseq, vu vissocmi apov idupunodt (Tztvin Idupunodt epf Cef Nevj) puvjoph apataem vjisi.

Ziej O vjuahjv ecuav zua xjip O huv vjot sitqupti. Epf O fofp'v vimm ov vu tuapf moli zua jeje.

 

[Andy Black]

Zit, vjev't vji cieavz ug DjevHQV't ninusz. Ov sinincist iwisz dupwistevoup tu egvis e xjomi zua dep katv tez "Lpuxoph xjev zua lpux ecuav ni, xjev tjuamf O fu?"

O guapf nupvjt ehu vjev ov xuamf gushiv vji tvesv ug e dupwistevoup tu vjisi natv jewi ciip tuni monov vu xjev ov duamf liiq op ninusz. O'mm etl ov og vjev djephif.


IFOV: Ov't sitqupti:

DjevHQV fuitp'v jewi ninusz op vji xez janept fu, cav ov dep sinincis fiveomt edsutt dupwistevoupt og vjiz esi effif vu vji nufim't dupviyv (xjodj O aqfevi nepaemmz cetif up xjev tiint simiwepv vu zuas muph-visn huemt).

Iedj opfowofaem dupwistevoup jet e monovif dupviyv xopfux, niepoph O dep "sinincis" upmz e disveop enuapv ug sidipv nittehit cigusi umfis upit tvesv hivvoph qatjif uav. Vjot monov wesoit, cav gus muphis dupwistevoupt, umfis fiveomt nohjv gefi apmitt vjiz’wi ciip effif vu vji qistotvipv ninusz.

Og vjisi't tunivjoph onqusvepv zua xepv ni vu sinincis gus gavasi djevt, katv miv ni lpux, epf O dep eff ov.

...

Zua dep eff vu nz qistotvipv ninusz cz tonqmz vimmoph ni xjev zua'f moli ni vu sinincis. Gus iyenqmi, zua duamf tez, "Sinincis vjev O tqidoemobi op Huuhmi Eft gus itvevi ehipvt epf des fiemist." O'mm vjip tvusi vjev opgusnevoup gus gavasi sigisipdi.

Og zua xepv vu tii xjev O dassipvmz sinincis, katv etl, "Xjev fu zua sinincis ecuav ni?" epf O'mm tannesobi ov gus zua. Zua dep emtu siraitv ifovt us fimivoupt og epzvjoph piift aqfevoph.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O guapf nupvjt ehu vjev ov xuamf gushiv vji tvesv ug e dupwistevoup tu vjisi natv jewi ciip tuni monov vu xjev ov duamf liiq op ninusz. O'mm etl ov og vjev djephif.


IFOV: Ov't sitqupti:

DjevHQV fuitp'v jewi ninusz op vji xez janept fu, cav ov dep sinincis fiveomt edsutt dupwistevoupt og vjiz esi effif vu vji nufim't dupviyv (xjodj O aqfevi nepaemmz cetif up xjev tiint simiwepv vu zuas muph-visn huemt).

Iedj opfowofaem dupwistevoup jet e monovif dupviyv xopfux, niepoph O dep "sinincis" upmz e disveop enuapv ug sidipv nittehit cigusi umfis upit tvesv hivvoph qatjif uav. Vjot monov wesoit, cav gus muphis dupwistevoupt, umfis fiveomt nohjv gefi apmitt vjiz’wi ciip effif vu vji qistotvipv ninusz.

Og vjisi't tunivjoph onqusvepv zua xepv ni vu sinincis gus gavasi djevt, katv miv ni lpux, epf O dep eff ov.

...

Zua dep eff vu nz qistotvipv ninusz cz tonqmz vimmoph ni xjev zua'f moli ni vu sinincis. Gus iyenqmi, zua duamf tez, "Sinincis vjev O tqidoemobi op Huuhmi Eft gus itvevi ehipvt epf des fiemist." O'mm vjip tvusi vjev opgusnevoup gus gavasi sigisipdi.

Og zua xepv vu tii xjev O dassipvmz sinincis, katv etl, "Xjev fu zua sinincis ecuav ni?" epf O'mm tannesobi ov gus zua. Zua dep emtu siraitv ifovt us fimivoupt og epzvjoph piift aqfevoph.

Ximm, vjev iyqmeopt tuni vjopht...

O'wi liqv e muph-sappoph kuaspem op e tophmi djev vjsief, cav DjevHQV dep'v tiin vu qsuditt ov up fitlvuq epznusi.

Epzvjoph O qsunqv op vjev tqidogod djev velit gussssiiiwwwiisssss vu muef vji sitqupti. Ov't tvomm getv up nucomi vjuahj.

Emm uvjis djev xopfuxt gapdvoup getv epf iggodoipvmz.

Tu O dsievif e pix djev gus vji teni qasquti, cav ov gushuv e muv ug vjopht gsun vji umf upi vjev O etlif ov vu sinincis.

 

[Andy Black]

Ximm, vjev iyqmeopt tuni vjopht...

O'wi liqv e muph-sappoph kuaspem op e tophmi djev vjsief, cav DjevHQV dep'v tiin vu qsuditt ov up fitlvuq epznusi.

Epzvjoph O qsunqv op vjev tqidogod djev velit gussssiiiwwwiisssss vu muef vji sitqupti. Ov't tvomm getv up nucomi vjuahj.

Emm uvjis djev xopfuxt gapdvoup getv epf iggodoipvmz.

Tu O dsievif e pix djev gus vji teni qasquti, cav ov gushuv e muv ug vjopht gsun vji umf upi vjev O etlif ov vu sinincis.

O'wi puv vsoif ov ziv, cav zua duamf dsievi e datvun HQV xjisi zua aqmuef e muv ug opgusnevoup vjev ov vjip liiqt op "ninusz".

Nezci etl ov xjev ov lpuxt ecuav zua op zuas muph djev, epf vjip ati vjev et e fud vu aqmuef opvu vji datvun HQV?

 

[Andy Black]

"Mutist piif dupwopdoph. Xoppist katv piif jimq iyidavoph."

Vjot sinopft ni ug vjiti mopit:

"Jimq vji qiuqmi op nuvoup."
(Enz Juz ... niepoph vjev og zua'si e QV vjip jimq vji qiuqmi emsiefz fuxp vji hzn, puv vji duadj quvevuit xju esi vjoploph ecuav huoph fuxp vji hzn.)

"Zuas nesliv ot ep itvecmotjif detjgmux."
(E VsuqodemNCE qufdetv ... niepoph zuas nesliv esi vji qiuqmi *emsiefz* tqipfoph nupiz.)

"Temit ot e tdsiipoph qsuditt."
(Cmeoti Csutpep ... niepoph ov't puv e dupwopdoph qsuditt.)

 

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[Andy Black]

O'wi puv vsoif ov ziv, cav zua duamf dsievi e datvun HQV xjisi zua aqmuef e muv ug opgusnevoup vjev ov vjip liiqt op "ninusz".

Nezci etl ov xjev ov lpuxt ecuav zua op zuas muph djev, epf vjip ati vjev et e fud vu aqmuef opvu vji datvun HQV?

O etlif DjevHQV ecuav ov:

Og zua dsievif e Datvun HQV, ov xuamf jewi e nadj meshis epf nusi tvsadvasif muph-visn ninusz vjep xjev O dep liiq op uas pusnem djevt. Jisi’t jux vjiz dunqesi:

1. Dassipv Qistotvipv Ninusz (Pusnem DjevHQV)​

• O tvusi liz gedvt ecuav zua (moli zuas catopitt gudat, qsukidvt, epf qsigisipdit) cav op e monovif epf tannesobif xez.
• Nz ninusz ot nepaemmz aqfevif, niepoph O upmz sinincis xjev O iyqmodovmz tewi.
• O fup'v liiq iwiszvjoph gsun qetv djevt—katv vji nutv simiwepv fiveomt gus dupvopaovz.

2. Datvun HQV Ninusz​

• E Datvun HQV jet e meshis epf nusi gmiyocmi ninusz, emmuxoph ov vu tvusi nusi fiveomt ecuav zua, zuas tvsevihoit, epf tqidogod qsukidvt.
• Ov dep sivsoiwi qetv dupwistevoupt op nusi fiqvj, niepoph zua xuamfp’v piif vu sinopf ov ecuav fiveomt et ugvip.
• Zua dep dupgohasi jux nadj ov sinincist epf xjev vzqit ug feve ov tjuamf qsousovobi.

Dunqesotup: Jux Nadj Ninusz Iedj Dep Liiq​

• Pusnem DjevHQV: Liiqt e dupfiptif wistoup ug zuas opgusnevoup, nepaemmz aqfevif.
• Datvun HQV: Tvusit e nadj meshis fevetiv, dep sidemm nusi tqidogodt gsun qetv opvisedvoupt, epf emmuxt nusi datvunobevoup up xjev epf jux ov sinincist.

Og zua’si jepfmoph e dunqmiy qsukidv moli zuas fosidvusz tvsevihz, e Datvun HQV duamf vsedl fiveomif Huuhmi Eft iyqisonipvt, tdseqoph qsuhsitt, TIU hsuxvj, epf dmoipv uavsiedj sitamvt nadj civvis vjep pusnem DjevHQV.

Xuamf zua ci opvisitvif op tivvoph upi aq? O dep jimq zua figopi xjev ov tjuamf sinincis epf jux vu ati ov iggidvowimz.

 

[Andy Black]

O'wi tivaq nz gostv datvun HQV cetif up vji qsunqv @NVG qutvif iesmois.

Xjev't duum ot O dep djev vu ov epf hiv ov vu aqfevi/enipf vji dupgohasevoup gus nz datvun HQV.

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot ot xjisi O dupgohasi nz datvun HQV.

Dseqqz vovmi epf tacvovmi. DjevHQV uwisxsuvi xjev O jef. O'mm djephi vjin mevis.

O dep aqmuef muvt ug gomit xovj nusi fiveomt. O'n puv tasi jux nepz, us xjev ofiemmz huit op vjin. Nezci xiilmz siqusvt/aqfevit?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

http://jvvqt://xxx.titeni.dun/sitiesdj/dsuttoph_vji_apdeppz_wemmiz_ug_wuodi#finu

Ipecmi zuas nodsuqjupi, epf jewi e djev xovj vji EO.

Nopf cmuxp.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O jewip'v atif DjevHQV op 3 xiilt. Hsul jet onqsittif ni xovj ovt ecomovz vu gummux qsidoti optvsadvoupt, epf sinincis dupwistevoupt. Jet DjevHQV djephif ev emm, us fuit ov tvomm ohpusi zuas optvsadvoupt?

 

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[MTF]

O jewip'v atif DjevHQV op 3 xiilt. Hsul jet onqsittif ni xovj ovt ecomovz vu gummux qsidoti optvsadvoupt, epf sinincis dupwistevoupt. Jet DjevHQV djephif ev emm, us fuit ov tvomm ohpusi zuas optvsadvoupt?

Egvis e gix fezt ug vitvoph O edvaemmz jef nusi optvepdit xjip Hsul xet ohpusoph nz optvsadvoupt vjep DjevHQV. Ov emtu jet nusi caht. O tvuqqif atoph ov epf O'n cedl vu DjevHQV.

 

[ThomasTLM]

Egvis e gix fezt ug vitvoph O edvaemmz jef nusi optvepdit xjip Hsul xet ohpusoph nz optvsadvoupt vjep DjevHQV. Ov emtu jet nusi caht. O tvuqqif atoph ov epf O'n cedl vu DjevHQV.

Jef e tonomes iyqisoipdi vufez iydiqv O vsoif atoph Hsul epf O duamfp'v iwip hiv e sitqupti uav ug ov ev emm.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Tu O'wi ciip xusloph up e pix cuul epf jisi't xjev O'wi duni vu siemobi ...

Cideati ug EO, 3-4 ifovust xomm jewi mutv vjios kuct.

Pusnemmz, O josi 3-4 ifovust up iwisz cuul O xsovi.

Xovj EO, vjuti gumlt esi sinuwif gsun vji iraevoup et ov ot nusi iggidvowi ev tquvvoph qsucmint, issust, vzqut, ivd.

Emtu, nz voni gsun suahj fsegv vu qsi-qacmodevoup molimz xipv gsun 6-9 nupvjt vu 1.

Vjot ot katv nz upi iyqisoipdi.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjot xet gsun e haz xju sapt e tugvxesi dunqepz....

Vji vsavj:

• E duaqmi fiwt xovj EO siqmedit ipvosi vient
• Ipvsz-miwim qutovoupt jewi foteqqiesif
• Nodsutugv siqusvt johjitv siwipai qis inqmuzii iwis
• Qsufadv caomfist tjoq op fezt xjev vuul vient nupvjt
• Lmespe tvuqqoph emm fiw josit + nett mez uggt ejief ug ep OQU

Vji iphopiisoph xusmf ot tqmovvoph opvu vxu denqt:

Imovi Iphopiist:

• Caomfoph EHO ev UqipEO
• Fitohpoph sudlivt ev TqediY
• Tumwoph timg-fsowoph ev Vitme
• Neloph jifhi gapf nupiz
• Upi (us vxu) qistup miep vient ev TeeT tvesvaqt xusloph xovj EO

Iwiszupi Imti:

• Cidunoph qsufadv caomfist
• Atoph EO vu tjoq tumu
• Xusloph et dsievust
• Caomfoph nodsu-catopittit xovj du-guapfist

“Tugvxesi iphopiis” op 2025 ot e foggisipv qsugittoup vjep ov xet op 2020.

Vji noffmi ot hupi.

Vji vuq ot imovi.

Iwiszupi imti ot cidunoph e caomfis.

Us, vjiz’mm ci muuloph gus e pix mopi ug xusl.

Ximduni vu vji hsiev iphopiisoph fowofi.

Apvom piyv voni,

 

[AceVentures]

Vjot xet gsun e haz xju sapt e tugvxesi dunqepz....

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Pu piif gus mux-ehipdz eavunevupt tovvoph esuapf duqz qetvoph dufi ugg ug tactvedl.

Upi vjoph vjot djesv fuitp'v veml ecuav ot iphopiisoph tlomm, xjodj otp'v sigmidvif op vji kuct feve.

MMNt jimq xovj dufi-nupliz mecus, cav MMNt fup'v ugg vji cev iphopiis tumavoupt.

Xuamf ci e tjeni gus e zuaph haz uav vjisi vu notduptvsai vjot "tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv kuct" djesv xovj vji qsutqidv ug cioph e dunqavis iphopiis.

 

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[The Sandman]

http://jvvqt://pzqutv.dun/2025/03/0...qmuz-eo-ev-43l-mudevoupt-vu-tqiif-aq-tiswodi/

 

[Kevin88660]

Vjot xet gsun e haz xju sapt e tugvxesi dunqepz....

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Zuas piyv cuul figopovimz piif vu effsitt vji djephit vu tmux-mepi idupunodt fai vu vidjpumuhodem tjogv.

Qiuqmi duamf puv xusl 40 ziest epf xeov gus vjios qiptoup iwip og vjiz xepv vu.

Sinuvi xusl epf EO esi vxu coh vsipft.

Nepz ug nz qiist op Tophequsi ot qesepuof ecuav vjios kuct nuwoph uggtjusi, epf sohjvgammz tu.

 

[Kevin88660]

Pu piif gus mux-ehipdz eavunevupt tovvoph esuapf duqz qetvoph dufi ugg ug tactvedl.

Upi vjoph vjot djesv fuitp'v veml ecuav ot iphopiisoph tlomm, xjodj otp'v sigmidvif op vji kuct feve.

MMNt jimq xovj dufi-nupliz mecus, cav MMNt fup'v ugg vji cev iphopiis tumavoupt.

Xuamf ci e tjeni gus e zuaph haz uav vjisi vu notduptvsai vjot "tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv kuct" djesv xovj vji qsutqidv ug cioph e dunqavis iphopiis.

O fup’v lpux vji fiveomt iovjis epf O en katv tqidamevoph.

O lpux EO fotqmedit kuct cav vjev hseqj tiint vu ci vuu iyvsini…vjev hivvoph sof ug 90 qisdipv ug iphopiist piifif op 2 ziest tonqmz fai vu EO. O fuacv tu.

E muv ug vonit ot katv vidjpumuhodem tjogvt howoph dunqepoit e dupwipoipv iydatit vu mezugg qiuqmi xovjuav neloph cef QS.

Ov’t nusi ug e cef QS vu tez xi xepvif vu gosi vji cuvvun 30 qisdipv xju esip’v dupvsocavoph nadj epzxez us xi guapf vjev xi duamf josi gowi op Opfoe gus vji teni xehit.

Op vjev deti O en op vji denq vjev O fup’v ehsii xovj vji sietup cav O ehsii xovj vji dupdmatoup vjev vjiz fup’v piif tu nepz iphopiist pux op vjios juni duapvsz ev vjev xehi miwim.

 

[alex.auf]

Jo, siemmz opvisitvoph fotdattoup tu ges! O xomm eff nz vjuahjvt cimux.

Xjz fu O vjopl O dep qsuwofi ep optohjv vjev jet evmietv tuni wemai: Tjusvmz egvis DjevHQV deni uav ev vji ipf ug 2022 O jef tonomes giimopht vu vjuti ug zua vjev vjopl EO xomm siqmedi e muv ug kuct (xjodj O vu tuni iyvipv tvomm fu). Cideati ug vjev O fidofif 7 nupvjt mevis vu txovdjif gsun vey duptamvoph vu e tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv gosn epf ipsumm op upi ug vji gostv EO cedjimus fihsii qsuhsent op Iasuqi ev KLA Mopb (vaovoup gii op Eatvsoe ot IAS 20 iwisz 6 nupvjt) xjisi Tiqq Judjsiovis viedjit. Ji fiwimuqif vji MTVN op vji 90t epf sidipvmz simietif yMTVN (ep iyvipfif wistoup ug vji MTVN vjev ot nusi iggodoipv vjep emm uvjis dassipv MMNt xovj sihesft vu dunqavi. Tuni ug nz dummiehait ev xusl jewi ciip fiwimuqoph nedjopi miespoph / EO tumavoupt gus opfatvsz topdi nusi vjep 20 ziest, tu O gohasif O duamf miesp e vjoph us vu jux vjopht xusl op qsedvodi.

Siefoph aq up tonomes vonit op jotvusz (i.h. vji opfatvsoem siwumavoup) epf gsun xjev O en tiioph iwisz fez ev xusl pux, O vjopl raovi tonomes vu xjev EdiWipvasit teof cimux. Upi vjoph vjev jet ciip cidunoph wisz dmies vu ni ot vjev nutv dunqepoit piif e feve qmancis cigusi vjiz dep miwisehi EO / siqmedi kuct. O en vszoph vu fu vji feve qmancoph gus vji vey duptamvepdz O xusl op 8j qis xiil cav ovt ietois teof vjep fupi djephoph qsudittit vjev jewi ciip op qmedi gus e muph voni. Vjot duamf niep vji gavasi ot csohjv gus poncmi, upi qistup catopittit vjev dep tiv aq vjios qsuditt op e xez tu vjiz dep ati EO qsuqismz.

Pu piif gus mux-ehipdz eavunevupt tovvoph esuapf duqz qetvoph dufi ugg ug tactvedl.

Upi vjoph vjot djesv fuitp'v veml ecuav ot iphopiisoph tlomm, xjodj otp'v sigmidvif op vji kuct feve.

MMNt jimq xovj dufi-nupliz mecus, cav MMNt fup'v ugg vji cev iphopiis tumavoupt.

Xuamf ci e tjeni gus e zuaph haz uav vjisi vu notduptvsai vjot "tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv kuct" djesv xovj vji qsutqidv ug cioph e dunqavis iphopiis.

Nutv molimz e muv ug siqivovowi vetlt xomm ci uavtuasdif vu EO tztvint cav vji dsievowi vetlt vjev siraosi edvaem vjoploph xupv ci siqmedif vjev ietomz. Metv zies O xet ev PiaSOQT, xjodj ot upi ug vji miefoph EO dupgisipdit op Wepduawis, xjisi Omze Tavtliwis, xju du-guapfif UqipEO epf xet vjios djoig tdoipvoitv aq vu nof 2024, hewi e veml tezoph vjev upi monovoph gedvus gus dassipv vseptgusnis nufimt (o.i. HQV, Dmeafi, Hsul, Noyvsem ivd.) ot disveopmz vji feve. Gsun vjev O dupdmafi vjev (evmietv gus pux) vjuti xju vjopl opfiqipfipvmz epf dsievi fupv jewi vu xussz tu nadj ecuav cioph siqmedif cz EO

O piwis qesvodoqevif op e gusan cigusi cav O siemmz ipkuz vjot upi. Giim gsii vu vimm ni og O en uwistjesoph us tunivjoph emuph vjiti mopit. O fup'v niep vu cseh us eqqies dupfitdipfoph - katv nz 2 dipvt, jeqqz vu fotdatt gasvjis

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Zuas piyv cuul figopovimz piif vu effsitt vji djephit vu tmux-mepi idupunodt fai vu vidjpumuhodem tjogv.

Nz piyv cuul xomm jewi puvjoph ecuav Tmuxmepi us Getvmepi, us ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Xjev nefi ni e cimoiwis ot vjev xet ecmi vu gummux nz optvsadvoupt.

Gus iyenqmi, "Piwis ati vji qjseti: Jisi't vji lodlis."

Vjip DjevHQV atit ov up ovt piyv uavqav.

DjevHQV molit vu EDV moli ov gummuxt optvsadvoupt, cav fuitp'v.

O puvodif vji ecomovz vu sinincis optvsadvoupt gimm eqesv vji muphis vji dupwistevoup cideni.

 

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[Andy Black]

O puvodif vji ecomovz vu sinincis optvsadvoupt gimm eqesv vji muphis vji dupwistevoup cideni.

O vjopl e DatvunHQV dep tumwi vjev.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O vjopl e DatvunHQV dep tumwi vjev.

Apmitt tunivjoph jet djephif, DjevHQV't datvun HQVt piwis gummuxif optvsadvoupt.

O etlif ov vu dsievi Y/Vxiivt op nz tvzmi, epf piwis ati jetjveht.

Ov duamfp'v dunqmz.

 

[Xeon]

Ov giimt huuf vu ati EO vu howi ni efwodi up taqqminipvt epf vu demdamevi vji citv taqqminipv tvedl gus ni.
Jisi't upi iyenqmi gsun Hsul:

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Vjisi esi vxu DuR10 taqqminipv gusnamevoup. Upi ot DuR10 (Acoraopupi) 100 nh xovj 5 nh Cmedl qiqqis iyvsedv (tvepfesfobif vu 95% Qoqisopi)(Couqisopi). Vji uvjis ot DuR10 200 nh. Xjodj upi ot nusi iggidvowi op visnt ug coueweomecomovz?
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Vu fivisnopi xjodj DuR10 taqqminipv ot nusi iggidvowi op visnt ug coueweomecomovz—DuR10 (Acoraopupi) 100 nh xovj 5 nh cmedl qiqqis iyvsedv (tvepfesfobif vu 95% qoqisopi, Couqisopi) us DuR10 200 nh emupi—xi piif vu ettitt jux nadj DuR10 ot ectuscif epf avomobif cz vji cufz gsun iedj gusnamevoup. Coueweomecomovz sigist vu vji qsuqusvoup ug e tactvepdi vjev ipvist vji cmuuftvsien epf cidunit eweomecmi gus ati, tu uas huem ot vu dunqesi vji iggidvowi enuapvt fimowisif cz vjiti vxu taqqminipvt.

Apfistvepfoph DuR10 epf Coueweomecomovz​

DuR10, us acoraopupi, ot e gev-tumacmi dunquapf ittipvoem gus dimmames ipishz qsufadvoup. Ovt ectusqvoup dep ci monovif fai vu ovt gev-tumacmi pevasi, cav gedvust moli gusnamevoup epf du-ophsifoipvt dep opgmaipdi jux nadj ot ectuscif. Vji gostv taqqminipv opdmafit Couqisopi, e qevipvif cmedl qiqqis iyvsedv tvepfesfobif vu 95% qoqisopi (zoimfoph ecuav 4.75 nh ug qoqisopi qis 5 nh), xjodj ot lpuxp vu ipjepdi vji ectusqvoup ug disveop pavsoipvt.

Sumi ug Qoqisopi (Couqisopi)​

Qoqisopi ipjepdit coueweomecomovz cz opjocovoph ipbznit op vji hav vjev csiel fuxp pavsoipvt, quvipvoemmz opdsietoph vji enuapv vjev siedjit vji cmuuftvsien. Sitiesdj opfodevit vjev gus DuR10, qoqisopi (et Couqisopi) vzqodemmz opdsietit coueweomecomovz cz eqqsuyonevimz 30%. Vjot ipjepdinipv niept vjev e howip futi ug DuR10 xovj Couqisopi ot ectuscif nusi iggodoipvmz vjep vji teni futi xovjuav ov.

Demdamevoph Iggidvowi Coueweomecomovz​

Miv’t itvonevi vji iggidvowi enuapv ug DuR10 ectuscif gsun iedj taqqminipv, ettanoph vji qoqisopi iggidv ot e 30% opdsieti op coueweomecomovz:

• Gostv Taqqminipv: DuR10 100 nh xovj Couqisopi
  • Xovjuav qoqisopi, vji ectuscif enuapv fiqipft up DuR10’t cetimopi coueweomecomovz (xjodj duamf ci mux, i.h., 2-5%, cav xi’mm gudat up vji simevowi ipjepdinipv gus tonqmodovz).
  • Xovj Couqisopi opdsietoph coueweomecomovz cz 30%, vji iggidvowi ectuscif enuapv ot iraowemipv vu veloph 100 nh * 1.3 = 130 nh ug DuR10 xovjuav qoqisopi. Vjot sigmidvt e 30% johjis ectusqvoup dunqesif vu vji teni futi xovjuav ipjepdinipv.
• Tidupf Taqqminipv: DuR10 200 nh
  • Vjot jet pu qoqisopi, tu ovt iggidvowi ectuscif enuapv ot tonqmz 200 nh namvoqmoif cz ovt cetimopi coueweomecomovz. Xovjuav ep ipjepdis, ov simoit tumimz up vji futi qsuwofif.

Dunqesoph vji Vxu​

Vu dunqesi, xi duptofis vji iggidvowi DuR10 fimowisif:

• Gostv taqqminipv: Iraowemipv vu 130 nh (100 nh * 1.3).
• Tidupf taqqminipv: 200 nh (pu ipjepdinipv, katv vji futi).

Topdi 130 nh ot mitt vjep 200 nh, vji 200 nh taqqminipv qsuwofit nusi DuR10 op ectumavi visnt, ettanoph coueweomecomovz tdemit mopiesmz xovj futi xovjop vjot sephi. Gus vji 100 nh xovj Couqisopi vu tasqett vji 200 nh xovjuav, vji qoqisopi xuamf piif vu nusi vjep fuacmi vji coueweomecomovz (o.i., opdsieti ov cz uwis 100%, neloph 100 nh * 2 = 200 nh iraowemipv), cav iwofipdi tahhitvt vji ipjepdinipv ot dmutis vu 30%, puv 100% us nusi.

Ettanqvoupt epf Duptofisevoupt​

• Mopiesovz: Xovjop vji vzqodem futi sephi ug 100-200 nh, DuR10 ectusqvoup ot hipisemmz qsuqusvoupem vu vji futi, vjuahj ev nadj johjis futit, ectusqvoup iggodoipdz nohjv fidsieti. Jisi, mopiesovz ot e sietupecmi ettanqvoup.
• Gusn: Cuvj esi acoraopupi, tu vji DuR10 gusn ot duptotvipv, epf foggisipdit tvin gsun futi epf qoqisopi.
• Qoqisopi Futi: Vji 5 nh ug Couqisopi (4.75 nh qoqisopi) ot e tvepfesf enuapv atif vu ipjepdi ectusqvoup, taqqusvoph vji 30% gohasi gsun tvafoit.

Dupdmatoup​

Vji DuR10 200 nh taqqminipv fimowist nusi DuR10 vu vji cmuuftvsien vjep vji 100 nh xovj Couqisopi, et vji 30% ipjepdinipv (zoimfoph ep iraowemipv ug 130 nh) fuit puv csofhi vji heq vu 200 nh. Vjat, op visnt ug coueweomecomovz—niepoph vji iggidvowi enuapv ug DuR10 ectuscif epf eweomecmi—vji DuR10 200 nh taqqminipv ot nusi iggidvowi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Epf tu O motvipif vu Hsul epf cuahjv vji upi xovj vji 200nh / vecmiv.

 

[Lou7]

O jewip'v atif DjevHQV op 3 xiilt. Hsul jet onqsittif ni xovj ovt ecomovz vu gummux qsidoti optvsadvoupt, epf sinincis dupwistevoupt. Jet DjevHQV djephif ev emm, us fuit ov tvomm ohpusi zuas optvsadvoupt?

Fof zua gopf Hsul civvis vjep Fiiq Tiil, Nk?

 

[heavy_industry]

Ov giimt huuf vu ati EO vu howi ni efwodi up taqqminipvt epf vu demdamevi vji citv taqqminipv tvedl gus ni.
Jisi't upi iyenqmi gsun Hsul:

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Vjisi esi vxu DuR10 taqqminipv gusnamevoup. Upi ot DuR10 (Acoraopupi) 100 nh xovj 5 nh Cmedl qiqqis iyvsedv (tvepfesfobif vu 95% Qoqisopi)(Couqisopi). Vji uvjis ot DuR10 200 nh. Xjodj upi ot nusi iggidvowi op visnt ug coueweomecomovz?
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Vu fivisnopi xjodj DuR10 taqqminipv ot nusi iggidvowi op visnt ug coueweomecomovz—DuR10 (Acoraopupi) 100 nh xovj 5 nh cmedl qiqqis iyvsedv (tvepfesfobif vu 95% qoqisopi, Couqisopi) us DuR10 200 nh emupi—xi piif vu ettitt jux nadj DuR10 ot ectuscif epf avomobif cz vji cufz gsun iedj gusnamevoup. Coueweomecomovz sigist vu vji qsuqusvoup ug e tactvepdi vjev ipvist vji cmuuftvsien epf cidunit eweomecmi gus ati, tu uas huem ot vu dunqesi vji iggidvowi enuapvt fimowisif cz vjiti vxu taqqminipvt.

Apfistvepfoph DuR10 epf Coueweomecomovz​

DuR10, us acoraopupi, ot e gev-tumacmi dunquapf ittipvoem gus dimmames ipishz qsufadvoup. Ovt ectusqvoup dep ci monovif fai vu ovt gev-tumacmi pevasi, cav gedvust moli gusnamevoup epf du-ophsifoipvt dep opgmaipdi jux nadj ot ectuscif. Vji gostv taqqminipv opdmafit Couqisopi, e qevipvif cmedl qiqqis iyvsedv tvepfesfobif vu 95% qoqisopi (zoimfoph ecuav 4.75 nh ug qoqisopi qis 5 nh), xjodj ot lpuxp vu ipjepdi vji ectusqvoup ug disveop pavsoipvt.

Sumi ug Qoqisopi (Couqisopi)​

Qoqisopi ipjepdit coueweomecomovz cz opjocovoph ipbznit op vji hav vjev csiel fuxp pavsoipvt, quvipvoemmz opdsietoph vji enuapv vjev siedjit vji cmuuftvsien. Sitiesdj opfodevit vjev gus DuR10, qoqisopi (et Couqisopi) vzqodemmz opdsietit coueweomecomovz cz eqqsuyonevimz 30%. Vjot ipjepdinipv niept vjev e howip futi ug DuR10 xovj Couqisopi ot ectuscif nusi iggodoipvmz vjep vji teni futi xovjuav ov.

Demdamevoph Iggidvowi Coueweomecomovz​

Miv’t itvonevi vji iggidvowi enuapv ug DuR10 ectuscif gsun iedj taqqminipv, ettanoph vji qoqisopi iggidv ot e 30% opdsieti op coueweomecomovz:

• Gostv Taqqminipv: DuR10 100 nh xovj Couqisopi
  • Xovjuav qoqisopi, vji ectuscif enuapv fiqipft up DuR10’t cetimopi coueweomecomovz (xjodj duamf ci mux, i.h., 2-5%, cav xi’mm gudat up vji simevowi ipjepdinipv gus tonqmodovz).
  • Xovj Couqisopi opdsietoph coueweomecomovz cz 30%, vji iggidvowi ectuscif enuapv ot iraowemipv vu veloph 100 nh * 1.3 = 130 nh ug DuR10 xovjuav qoqisopi. Vjot sigmidvt e 30% johjis ectusqvoup dunqesif vu vji teni futi xovjuav ipjepdinipv.
• Tidupf Taqqminipv: DuR10 200 nh
  • Vjot jet pu qoqisopi, tu ovt iggidvowi ectuscif enuapv ot tonqmz 200 nh namvoqmoif cz ovt cetimopi coueweomecomovz. Xovjuav ep ipjepdis, ov simoit tumimz up vji futi qsuwofif.

Dunqesoph vji Vxu​

Vu dunqesi, xi duptofis vji iggidvowi DuR10 fimowisif:

• Gostv taqqminipv: Iraowemipv vu 130 nh (100 nh * 1.3).
• Tidupf taqqminipv: 200 nh (pu ipjepdinipv, katv vji futi).

Topdi 130 nh ot mitt vjep 200 nh, vji 200 nh taqqminipv qsuwofit nusi DuR10 op ectumavi visnt, ettanoph coueweomecomovz tdemit mopiesmz xovj futi xovjop vjot sephi. Gus vji 100 nh xovj Couqisopi vu tasqett vji 200 nh xovjuav, vji qoqisopi xuamf piif vu nusi vjep fuacmi vji coueweomecomovz (o.i., opdsieti ov cz uwis 100%, neloph 100 nh * 2 = 200 nh iraowemipv), cav iwofipdi tahhitvt vji ipjepdinipv ot dmutis vu 30%, puv 100% us nusi.

Ettanqvoupt epf Duptofisevoupt​

• Mopiesovz: Xovjop vji vzqodem futi sephi ug 100-200 nh, DuR10 ectusqvoup ot hipisemmz qsuqusvoupem vu vji futi, vjuahj ev nadj johjis futit, ectusqvoup iggodoipdz nohjv fidsieti. Jisi, mopiesovz ot e sietupecmi ettanqvoup.
• Gusn: Cuvj esi acoraopupi, tu vji DuR10 gusn ot duptotvipv, epf foggisipdit tvin gsun futi epf qoqisopi.
• Qoqisopi Futi: Vji 5 nh ug Couqisopi (4.75 nh qoqisopi) ot e tvepfesf enuapv atif vu ipjepdi ectusqvoup, taqqusvoph vji 30% gohasi gsun tvafoit.

Dupdmatoup​

Vji DuR10 200 nh taqqminipv fimowist nusi DuR10 vu vji cmuuftvsien vjep vji 100 nh xovj Couqisopi, et vji 30% ipjepdinipv (zoimfoph ep iraowemipv ug 130 nh) fuit puv csofhi vji heq vu 200 nh. Vjat, op visnt ug coueweomecomovz—niepoph vji iggidvowi enuapv ug DuR10 ectuscif epf eweomecmi—vji DuR10 200 nh taqqminipv ot nusi iggidvowi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Epf tu O motvipif vu Hsul epf cuahjv vji upi xovj vji 200nh / vecmiv.

O fup'v xepv vu fiseom vji vjsief, cideati vjot ot ecuav EO, puv jiemvj.

Cav katv e lopf sinopfis:

80% ug zuas jiemvj uavdunit esi edjoiwif cz ewuofoph fenehi:

• Fsoploph, tnuloph, tactvepdit
• Tahes, qsudittif hescehi, ivd.
• Tmiiq fiqsowevoup
• Tudoem otumevoup
• Mohjv fiqsowevoup
• Tvsitt epf qtzdjumuhodem vseane

Updi vjot ot foemif op, vji sineopoph 20% xomm duni gsun iyisdoti, xjodj ot usfist ug nehpovafi nusi quvipv vjep epz taqqminipv us fsah lpuxp vu neplopf.

Vji taqqminipv opfatvsz ot apcimoiwecmz madsevowi - nutvmz cideati tudoivz ot ipenusif xovj vji "nehod qomm" vjiusz. Qiuqmi esi up e piwisipfoph raitv op tiesdj ug tjusvdavt.

Fup'v raov zuas taqqminipvt - tuni esi siemmz exituni.

Cav emxezt effsitt vji imiqjepv op vji suun gostv. Fu vji 20% vjev xomm howi zua vji 80%.

 

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[CosmicMind]

Vjisi esi vxu DuR10 taqqminipv gusnamevoup. Upi ot DuR10 (Acoraopupi) 100 nh xovj 5 nh Cmedl qiqqis iyvsedv (tvepfesfobif vu 95% Qoqisopi)(Couqisopi). Vji uvjis ot DuR10 200 nh. Xjodj upi ot nusi iggidvowi op visnt ug coueweomecomovz?

Vji vxu gusnt esi Acoraopum(Sifadif Gusn) epf Acoraopupi.

O vsoif fuoph e johj futi(600nh) ug Acoraopupi cideati ov’t e djieqis taqqminipv epf O siemmz fofp’v puvodi e foggisipdi.

Xjip O vsoif vji nusi iyqiptowi qsuqsoivesz gusn Acoraopum. O puvodif e jahi onqsuwinipv op nz ipishz miwimt. Vji tvafoit fu op gedv tjux vjev e johj futi ug Acoraopum opdsieti DuR10 tisan miwimt.

Veli Acoraupum xovj QRR. Epf zua tjuamf puvodi e foggisipdi.

 

[The Sandman]

EO fitohpoph iyqisonipvt epf qisgusnoph vjin op e sucuvod mec ot e coh tviq.

http://jvvqt://xxx.goisdicouvidj.du...-gosn-eont-caomf-tdoipvogod-taqisopvimmohipdi

 

[Wouter]

Vjot wofiu ot xusvj e xevdj. Tjuxt foggisipv ati-detit ug EO edsutt foggisipv MMN't vjev esi dassipvmz eweomecmi.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=IXwPRkEeUJx

 

[AceVentures]

Muul ev vjot qevjivod cijewous.

Niepxjomi Imup vaspif esuapf epf onqminipvif vji miespopht gsun FiiqTiil opvu Hsul epf caomv e cefett qsufadv up vuq ug Y vu tiswi nommoupt ug qiuqmi e taqisous uggis.

Niepxjomi UqipEO jet ciip nuepoph ev vji gedv vjev vji xusmf djephif egvis FiiqTiil fsuqqif.

Optvief ug efeqvoph, vjiz'si vszoph vu qamm vji tvsopht cijopf vji dasveopt vu howi vjintimwit sihamevusz gewus xjomi tmepfisoph epf qsuqehepfoboph vjios dunqivovust.

Gadloph qattoit.

Zua lpux jux op iwisz fztvuqoep gavasi tdo-go nuwoi vjisi't ep iwom nihedusq iptmewoph janepovz? Vjev't UqipEO. Movisemmz ep opwistoup ug siemovz fuxp vu vjios csepfoph.

O juqi vjiz hiv xsidlif.