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Why is Scottsdale so awesome?

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I have heard in passing quite a bit over the years that Scottsdale is an awesome place to live.

I notice MJ is from there so did some research over the weekend, unfortunatly it digged up threads from slowlaners complaining about the place (dubbed "Snotsdale") so nada.

My dog has a heart murmer, he is 4, predicted to live 'till 8-9. I plan to emigrate somewhere at this point. I was looking at Toronto. I live in the UK and want out of the EU / UK permanently. So I am doing all my due dilligence and research now.

Scottsdale sounds amazing to live in in the winter... 75 degrees F is around 20 degrees C. In the winter here, it is around -5 degrees C.

But it doesn't sound good in the summer. The hottest place I have spent time in is southern Greece, I actually had to go to hospital with heatstroke :/

So for RICH / affluent people, who don't have to worry about jobs and commuting, why is the place so great?

Thank you.
 
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I have heard in passing quite a bit over the years that Scottsdale is an awesome place to live.

I notice MJ is from there so did some research over the weekend, unfortunatly it digged up threads from slowlaners complaining about the place (dubbed "Snotsdale") so nada.

My dog has a heart murmer, he is 4, predicted to live 'till 8-9. I plan to emigrate somewhere at this point. I was looking at Toronto. I live in the UK and want out of the EU / UK permanently. So I am doing all my due dilligence and research now.

Scottsdale sounds amazing to live in in the winter... 75 degrees F is around 20 degrees C. In the winter here, it is around -5 degrees C.

But it doesn't sound good in the summer. The hottest place I have spent time in is southern Greece, I actually had to go to hospital with heatstroke :/

So for RICH / affluent people, who don't have to worry about jobs and commuting, why is the place so great?

Thank you.
I'll chime in.

Moved to AZ in 1984...moved back to Buffalo for a year in 1992...moved back to AZ(Scottsdale) in 1993...moved to IN 10 years ago...moved back to AZ(Scottsdale) 2 years later...still here.

So ya- it's the desert...it's hot in the Summer- for about 5 months. We escape from here as much as we can, when the kids are out of school. But like the past week or so...we're in the backyard throwing the ball once the sun is setting and the yard is shaded. A cold beer and a jump in the pool helps as well.

And for the other 7 months...it's really nice here.

Now- if you're looking for a change of seasons...you won't find that here. If you are looking for endless opportunities to build a business, get a job, make new friends- you can do that here...easily.

And it's crazy the amount of super cars that you see here flying around...kinda cool to be around that kind of money- even if some of it is financed.

But we dig it...good a place as any to raise a family and live the good life, or any kind of life you wanna live.
 

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We moved here almost 4 years ago. Mesa is where we lived the first 1.5 years here. We now live in Fountain Hills which is east of Scottsdale. Incredibly beautiful and scenic. No other place like Fountain Hills here in Arizona. However, the median age is about 92, it's pretty secluded with not a lot of shopping & entertainment options. We will likely be moving to Scottsdale within the next year. BUT, it is a great place to live. We're fairly close to the Salt River and Four Peaks area which are perfect for recreation activities like river tubing, kayaking, paddle boarding, boating, hiking, fishing, camping, off-roading, exploring, etc. We often see free roaming wild horses along with other native wildlife like bobcats, javelina, coyote and snakes. Not of fan of wildlife? Don't live in Fountain Hills, lol.

Experience Fountain Hills


Scottsdale has a pretty vibrate nightlife, lots of shopping & entertainment, cultural activities and great restaurants everywhere. There are also great places to hike.


There are places other than Scottsdale. Places like Gilbert, Chandler, Queen Creek and Tempe that are equally as nice but more affordable.

One of the things we love most about living here is the diversity of our state. Too hot? Drive an hour to Payson where temps are about 20 degrees cooler and you have lots of waterfalls to enjoy. Miss the snow in winter? Drive two hours to Sedona and take in the beauty of white snow on red mountains.
 
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We moved here almost 4 years ago. Mesa is where we lived the first 1.5 years here. We now live in Fountain Hills which is east of Scottsdale. Incredibly beautiful and scenic. No other place like Fountain Hills here in Arizona. However, the median age is about 92, it's pretty secluded with not a lot of shopping & entertainment options. We will likely be moving to Scottsdale within the next year. BUT, it is a great place to live. We're fairly close to the Salt River and Four Peaks area which are perfect for recreation activities like river tubing, kayaking, paddle boarding, boating, hiking, fishing, camping, off-roading, exploring, etc. We often see free roaming wild horses along with other native wildlife like bobcats, javelina, coyote and snakes. Not of fan of wildlife? Don't live in Fountain Hills, lol.

Experience Fountain Hills


Scottsdale has a pretty vibrate nightlife, lots of shopping & entertainment, cultural activities and great restaurants everywhere. There are also great places to hike.


There are places other than Scottsdale. Places like Gilbert, Chandler, Queen Creek and Tempe that are equally as nice but more affordable.

One of the things we love most about living here is the diversity of our state. Too hot? Drive an hour to Payson where temps are about 20 degrees cooler and you have lots of waterfalls to enjoy. Miss the snow in winter? Drive two hours to Sedona and take in the beauty of white snow on red mountains.
Jeez was that 4 years ago?
 

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I'll be in Scottsdale at the end of September. Probably my favorite city I've been to, really just love everything about it so far (been there 4 times). Simply cannot deal with living in Western New York anymore, especially with our long, BRUTAL, sunless, winters.

That will be the second last time I visit prior to moving in June 2018.
 
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My family and I moved to Arizona a little over a year ago. We live further south (San Tan Valley) where the houses are cheaper. We actually don't mind the summer heat. We stay inside or in the pool during the heat of the day. After the sun goes down it isn't too bad.

A few nice things about the Phoenix area are: beautiful views, lots of things to do, only a few hour drive to the ocean, a couple hour drive into the mountain, amazing weather!

Cons:
hot during the summer
(I'm sure there are others but we haven't come across any yet)

To us the pros greatly outweighed the cons so we moved here. We absolutely love it. To us it feels like a vacation all the time.
 

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My employer was paying to relocate people to AZ and flew me out. I really enjoyed Tempe a lot more than I thought I would. Its not as congested and suffocating as Los Angeles. And I like the heat, although AZ its a bit too much.

Only bad would be no lane splitting for motorcycles.
 

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My family and I moved to Arizona a little over a year ago. We live further south (San Tan Valley) where the houses are cheaper. We actually don't mind the summer heat. We stay inside or in the pool during the heat of the day. After the sun goes down it isn't too bad.

A few nice things about the Phoenix area are: beautiful views, lots of things to do, only a few hour drive to the ocean, a couple hour drive into the mountain, amazing weather!

Cons:
hot during the summer
(I'm sure there are others but we haven't come across any yet)

To us the pros greatly outweighed the cons so we moved here. We absolutely love it. To us it feels like a vacation all the time.
I had no idea you moved here. We should meetup sometime.
 
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What about downsides? I checked but all I really got was stuff about water running out, having to be imported, and lots of things about "The Worst Sheriff" who Trump is about to pardon and may become Governor, as well as "how the politicians own all the prisons" or something.
 

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Uh dont get a DUI or youre going straight to tent prison. So hot that there are underground tunnels from parking structures to work. It's the desert, kiss your lawn goodbye.

I remember something ridiculous like 70% of all people in AZ are not natives. There's good job and housing market, lower cost of living and only an few hours drive to California so the appeal is all that stuff. But if you dont like heat, probably not a good place. Probably the #1 deciding factor, this summer I saw it was 120 degrees in Phoenix


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I'm from New England and my first visit driving north towards Sedona was like landing on Mars. It was beautiful to visit and everyone should drive that road (Route 89A?) through Slide Rock State Forest but otherwise give me four seasons and a temperate forest biome any day.
 

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Let me just say this.

If it was truly miserable in the summer and it didn't outweigh the winters. Why are those who can choose to live anywhere in the world, living here?

Disclaimer: I now spend the major portion of the summer in Colorado. But that just started a few years ago.
 

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I've never been to Arizona in the summer, so I can't comment on that state specifically.

However, after going to Vegas in the summer I can definitively say that a dry 112 (44.4 C) is about 1000x better than a humid 95 (35 C).

I was in Vegas recently over the summer and it was 112 F. I walked pretty much everywhere during the day. Hell, I walked from the LV Convention Center to McCaran in the afternoon heat. It was hot and I was sweaty. But I didn't sweat nearly as much as I do in a hot humid place.

The dry heat myth is true.

Edit: If Greece gave you heat stroke, then AZ in the summer might literally kill you. All the Florida people that are already used to the heat though. Not that bad.
 
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If it was truly miserable in the summer and it didn't outweigh the winters. Why are those who can choose to live anywhere in the world, living here?
As Dave likes to say, "We live where people vacation."

 

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Uh dont get a DUI or youre going straight to tent prison. So hot that there are underground tunnels from parking structures to work. It's the desert, kiss your lawn goodbye.

I remember something ridiculous like 70% of all people in AZ are not natives. There's good job and housing market, lower cost of living and only an few hours drive to California so the appeal is all that stuff. But if you dont like heat, probably not a good place. Probably the #1 deciding factor, this summer I saw it was 120 degrees in Phoenix


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They closed tent city when the new sheriff took over. I've got a green lawn. 120 is no big deal. It's the same as 105 or 110. You do the same thing everyone else does in almost every other state in the summer (stay in the AC or pool).

I moved to AZ from the Midwest. We had 100+ degree summers and 10-20 below winters. I will take 120 in the summer and 60 in the winter.
 

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What about downsides? I checked but all I really got was stuff about water running out, having to be imported, and lots of things about "The Worst Sheriff" who Trump is about to pardon and may become Governor, as well as "how the politicians own all the prisons" or something.
The sheriff everyone was all up in arms about was voted out last election cycle. Water is actually something we did some research into and were satisfied with the measures Arizona has taken and is taking. If there is a water issue it will hit all the farmers (there are a lot) that grow cotton, alfalfa, corn etc. the hardest as that would be the first thing they would cut off.
 
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Before everyone climbs into their car and moves here, let me say that a lot of things have changed since I first moved here.

#1, Real Estate has gotten god awful expensive, especially in Scottsdale. I can't believe the crap I'm seeing now for $1.5M.
#2, Traffic has gotten insane.
#3, It is really really HOT in the summer.
#4, The politics are changing as more Californians are moving here and bringing their idiotic politics with them.

Basically, I'm lobbying for you all to stay where you're at. I'd like my next 20 years here to be like the first. ;)
 

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I'll be in Scottsdale at the end of September. Probably my favorite city I've been to, really just love everything about it so far (been there 4 times). Simply cannot deal with living in Western New York anymore, especially with our long, BRUTAL, sunless, winters.

That will be the second last time I visit prior to moving in June 2018.
I'm from Cheektowaga-
 
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Before everyone climbs into their car and moves here, let me say that a lot of things have changed since I first moved here.

#1, Real Estate has gotten god awful expensive, especially in Scottsdale. I can't believe the crap I'm seeing now for $1.5M.
#2, Traffic has gotten insane.
#3, It is really really HOT in the summer.
#4, The politics are changing as more Californians are moving here and bringing their idiotic politics with them.

Basically, I'm lobbying for you all to stay where you're at. I'd like my next 20 years here to be like the first. ;)
I was torn between singing the praises or warning people to stay away, lol.
 

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Never understood that. People move to X country and then try and make that country change. We have the same issue in the UK but I will stop here.
 
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