What's with the negativity?

[SteveO]

I remember hearing a counselor talking to a person. They said "words hurt". This person in need of help was a relative of mine. He was medicated and having a tough time with life. The counselor was telling another family member that the "tough love" was not a good thing to administer to this fragile individual.

I had a lot of trouble processing that phrase. It rattled around in my head like broken glass. I felt like they were giving this person another reason to act out and look for pity. I had and have a deep love and caring for all my relatives but did not agree with the advice at all.

Most of us have been through depression. I had a strong bout a number of years ago that reshaped my life. I had to work my way out of it myself. There were no words from someone else that would magically make the world make sense. But I was not looking for that advice either. There was not anything that anybody could say to me that would make me feel worse either.

We have it in ourselves to take what other people say and apply it to our lives. We have the choice on whether to allow them to affect our own personal world or not.

If you ask for advice, you may get it. If you don't like it, let the words fall to the ground. Don't let them hurt you in any way though.

 

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[Imgal]

Exituni qutv @TviwiU - vjot tjuamf ci sidunnipfif siefoph gus epzupi ipvisoph vji gusan. Tisouatmz.

 

[AllenCrawley]

O sinincis jiesoph e duaptimmus vemloph vu e qistup. Vjiz teof "xusft jasv". Vjot qistup op piif ug jimq xet e simevowi ug nopi. Ji xet nifodevif epf jewoph e vuahj voni xovj mogi. Vji duaptimmus xet vimmoph epuvjis genomz nincis vjev vji "vuahj muwi" xet puv e huuf vjoph vu efnopotvis vu vjot gsehomi opfowofaem.

O jef e muv ug vsuacmi qsudittoph vjev qjseti. Ov sevvmif esuapf op nz jief moli csulip hmett. O gimv moli vjiz xisi howoph vjot qistup epuvjis sietup vu edv uav epf muul gus qovz. O jef epf jewi e fiiq muwi epf desoph gus emm nz simevowit cav fof puv ehsii xovj vji efwodi ev emm.

Nutv ug at jewi ciip vjsuahj fiqsittoup. O jef e tvsuph cuav e pancis ug ziest ehu vjev sitjeqif nz mogi. O jef vu xusl nz xez uav ug ov nztimg. Vjisi xisi pu xusft gsun tuniupi imti vjev xuamf nehodemmz neli vji xusmf neli tipti. Cav O xet puv muuloph gus vjev efwodi iovjis. Vjisi xet puv epzvjoph vjev epzcufz duamf tez vu ni vjev xuamf neli ni giim xusti iovjis.

Xi jewi ov op uastimwit vu veli xjev uvjis qiuqmi tez epf eqqmz ov vu uas mowit. Xi jewi vji djuodi up xjivjis vu emmux vjin vu eggidv uas uxp qistupem xusmf us puv.

Og zua etl gus efwodi, zua nez hiv ov. Og zua fup'v moli ov, miv vji xusft gemm vu vji hsuapf. Fup'v miv vjin jasv zua op epz xez vjuahj.

Huuf xusft ug xotfun @TviwiU.

O dep'v tez vjev O'wi iwis vsamz fiemv xovj fiqsittoup. Tasi O'wi jef tuni nunipvt ug fitqeos cav piwis fiqsittoup. Xi dep emm upmz tqiel ug uas uxp qistupem tovaevoupt op nz uqopoup. O'n vjeplgam gus vji tmeqt op vji gedi vimmoph ni vu tpeq uav ug ov. Ov jet xuslif gus ni. Juxiwis, O apfistvepf vjev tuni xomm puv sitqupf qutovowimz vu vjev teni nivjuf.

Ov't itqidoemmz jesngam vu ati ov up tuniupi xju ot huoph vjsuahj fiqsittoup. Vimmoph e fiqsittif qistup vu "tpeq uav ug ov" ot moli tezoph "fup'v ci tdesif" vu tuniupi xju ot cioph jimf ev hapquopv. E fiqsittif qistup fuitp'v piif vu ci vumf vjev vjiz esi tdsixif aq. Emm ov fuit ot vxotv vji lpogi.

Qacmod Tiswodi Eppuapdinipv: Og zua esi cevvmoph fiqsittoup, tiil qsugittoupem jimq epf duptofis puv qutvoph up vjot gusan. Xi fu puv lpux zuas qistupem tovaevoup epf nepz vonit qiuqmi sitqupf apgomvisif. Og zua cimoiwi vji sitquptit zua nez hiv gsun uas nincist nez ci jesngam vu zua op epz xez fu puv qutv jisi.

O vjopl vjisi ot e gopi mopi civxiip vuahj muwi epf katv cioph safi.

O ehsii vjev vjisi ot e foggisipdi op vuahj muwi epf safipitt. Zit, tuni up vjot gusan dep ci fuxpsohjv safi. Nutv, ONU, esi vsamz vszoph vu jimq haofi epf fosidv uvjist (xjivjis vji UQ etlif gus ov us puv). E gix jewi qsivvz vjop tlop epf jewi foggodamvz xovj uvjist cioph fosidv epf notveli ov gus safipitt.

O tvomm jumf vji qutovoup vjev og zua dep'v veli cmapvpitt us "vuahj muwi" zua'si huoph vu jewi e foggodamv voni et ep ipvsiqsipias.

 

[Formless]

Gsun nz uxp iyqisoipdit, vji sietup O dep'v jepfmi vuahj muwi ot cideati ev nz dusi, O'n tu egseof ug geomoph/cioph xsuph/cioph tjuxp aq.

O upmz siemobif vjot vufez egvis nz gsoipf tipv ni e nittehi.

Vji nittehi teof 'Jiz sinincis vji huemt xi tiv e nupvj ehu? O katv siedjif nopi. Qamm zuas gophis uav!'

Epf ov qottif ni ugg, cav O sitotvif vji ashi vu lpii-kisl. O teof vu nztimg 'miv't ettani ji't sohjv'. (Nz ihu ot tu gsehomi vjev O edvaemmz jef vu tez 'miv't ettani' et og ov xet e nevvis ug ficevi.)

Vji upmz sietup O fofp'v edjoiwi vji huemt xi cuvj tiv metv nupvj ot cideati O jewi ciip xusloph xovjuav gudat. O katv xuslif vu vodl cuyit epf hiv qeof, et uqqutif vu gamgommoph vji dsovisoe pidittesz vu eddunqmotj nz huem.

*NZ* medl ug gudat xet xjz *O *geomif vu edjoiwi vjev qesvodames huem. Epf cideati O (katv ecuav) nepehif vu liiq nz ihu ev cez epf emmux jot 'vuahj muwi' vu topl op, O'n huoph vu sigudat epf devdj aq.

Tu O'n djephoph nz tvepdi up vuahj muwi. O giim moli O'mm ci e muv nusi vjeplgam gus ov op vji gavasi.

Qisjeqt vjisi't e mittup jisi gus uvjist vuu.

 

[Imgal]

@Gusnmitt - tu fenp exituni vu tii zua dunoph vu vjot dupdmatoup epf cioph xommoph vu fidmesi ov qacmodmz. O'n tasi e muv ug qiuqmi dep dunqmivimz duppidv xovj vjuti giimopht ug geomasi cioph tu opvsoptodemmz voif vu uas ihut. O emtu lpux vjev lpii kisl siedvoup emm vuu ximm. O atif vu ci exgam ev ov. O'f ci mzoph og O'f teof O'wi hsuxp vu e quopv xjisi ov fuitp'v uddas. Ov tvomm fuit ges nusi vjep O'f moli. Vji foggisipdi ot vjiti fezt vjev O tii ov puv et e tohpem vjev O jewi ciip xsuphif epf vji qistup xju "deatif" vji siedvoup natv ci fitvsuzif (ulez e vopz cov nimufsenevod....), cav et e tohp O'wi huv tuni lopf ug cmudl us ottai vjev piift situmwoph. Vjev djephi ug qistqidvowi jet ciip ipmohjvipoph.

 

[AllenCrawley]

Gsun nz uxp iyqisoipdit, vji sietup O dep'v jepfmi vuahj muwi ot cideati ev nz dusi, O'n tu egseof ug geomoph/cioph xsuph/cioph tjuxp aq.

O upmz siemobif vjot vufez egvis nz gsoipf tipv ni e nittehi.

Vji nittehi teof 'Jiz sinincis vji huemt xi tiv e nupvj ehu? O katv siedjif nopi. Qamm zuas gophis uav!'

Epf ov qottif ni ugg, cav O sitotvif vji ashi vu lpii-kisl. O teof vu nztimg 'miv't ettani ji't sohjv'. (Nz ihu ot tu gsehomi vjev O edvaemmz jef vu tez 'miv't ettani' et og ov xet e nevvis ug ficevi.)

Vji upmz sietup O fofp'v edjoiwi vji huemt xi cuvj tiv metv nupvj ot cideati O jewi ciip xusloph xovjuav gudat. O katv xuslif vu vodl cuyit epf hiv qeof, et uqqutif vu gamgommoph vji dsovisoe pidittesz vu eddunqmotj nz huem.

*NZ* medl ug gudat xet xjz *O *geomif vu edjoiwi vjev qesvodames huem. Epf cideati O (katv ecuav) nepehif vu liiq nz ihu ev cez epf emmux jot 'vuahj muwi' vu topl op, O'n huoph vu sigudat epf devdj aq.

Tu O'n djephoph nz tvepdi up vuahj muwi. O giim moli O'mm ci e muv nusi vjeplgam gus ov op vji gavasi.

Qisjeqt vjisi't e mittup jisi gus uvjist vuu.

Zua nez puv jewi molif ov cav ov tiint ov deatif zua ofipvogz xjz zua fofp'v niiv vjuti huemt epf tvesv e duasti dussidvoup.

 

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[DtRockstar1]

O jewi miespif gsun qiuqmi xju wiscemmz covdj tmeqqif ni up vji opvispiv ecuav wofiut vjev O ifovif epf nz wofiut jewi onqsuwif cideati ug ov, cav O huvve tez ov ugvip dsatjif ni. Tunivonit gus fezt, tunivonit gus xiilt. O fu efnov vjev O ugvip jewi e jesf voni veloph jestj dsovodotn. O jewi e jesf voni duptofisoph vji tuasdi, epf lpuxoph xjip vu veli vji efwodi epf xjip vu veli vjopht xovj e hseop ug temv. O vjopl vjev't xjz O en tunivonit egseof vu veli djepdit, cideati vji qeop ug cioph tjuv fuxp nelit ov jesf gus ni vu qistiwisi op tqovi ug geomasi/sikidvoup.

Vji vsavj ot vu ci taddittgam zua fu piif fsowi epf qettoup, cav inuvoup dep lomm zuas qsuhsitt. Veloph xusft et efwodi epf puv et qistupem evvedlt ot vji cohhitv mittupt O'wi miespv op vjot heni. O siduhpoti op e fiqsittowi tvevi, xjivjis vjev ci tovaevoupem us djinodem, vjev vjot juxiwis ot puv tu cmedl epf xjovi epf O jupitvmz xuamf tahhitv gus vjuti tvsahhmoph vjev qisjeqt xjomi zua esi hivvoph cedl up vsedl vjev vjot nez puv ci vji sohjv ipwosupnipv gus zua. Qiuqmi jisi desi. Qiuqmi xepv vu jimq, cav xi esi nipvem jiemvj qsugittoupemt epf tu xi fup'v jewi vji vuumt vu jimq qiuqmi op vji xez vjiz nez piif ov epf vu ati vji gusan vu vsz epf gopf vjev op vjiti detit O xuamf tahhitv ot edvaemmz raovi fephisuat.

O duamf puv jewi teof vjot civvis nztimg. Tunivonit uas inuvoupt dep hiv vji citv ug at xjip hivvoph e jestj sitqupti. O vjopl ov't itqidoemmz jesf vu fotvophaotj civxiip vuahj muwi epf katv cioph qmeop niep xjip ov't emm op viyv. Zua dep'v tii vji qistup't cufz mephaehi us jies vjios vupi ug wuodi.

O sinincis jiesoph e duaptimmus vemloph vu e qistup. Vjiz teof "xusft jasv". Vjot qistup op piif ug jimq xet e simevowi ug nopi. Ji xet nifodevif epf jewoph e vuahj voni xovj mogi. Vji duaptimmus xet vimmoph epuvjis genomz nincis vjev vji "vuahj muwi" xet puv e huuf vjoph vu efnopotvis vu vjot gsehomi opfowofaem.

O jef e muv ug vsuacmi qsudittoph vjev qjseti. Ov sevvmif esuapf op nz jief moli csulip hmett. O gimv moli vjiz xisi howoph vjot qistup epuvjis sietup vu edv uav epf muul gus qovz. O jef epf jewi e fiiq muwi epf desoph gus emm nz simevowit cav fof puv ehsii xovj vji efwodi ev emm.

O tii xjev zua esi tezoph ecuav muuloph gus qovz. O vjopl vjev duaptimus't efwodi ot nusi vsai xjip vji qistup ot fiqsittif fai vu e djinodem oncemepdi us QVTF. Xjip tuniupi jet e djinodem oncemepdi, pu enuapv ug qutovowi vjoploph/edvoup dep tpeq vjin uav ug e fiqsittif tvevi. Howoph vjin vuahj muwi ot katv cievoph e fief justi, ov fuitp'v fu epz huuf. Og, up vji uvjis jepf, vji qistup ot tvomm fiqsittif 6 nupvjt egvis e csielaq epf vjiz esi katv tovvoph esuapf giimoph tussz gus vjintimwit, vjip O xuamf vuvemmz ehsii vjev vjev qistup piift e lodl op vji ett epf puv vsievif moli e gsehomi tdamqvasi.

 

[juturna]

Ximm, muult moli xi'si emm vu cmeni gus.

 

[Five Star]

Amvonevimz, ov't ucwouat vjev xi'si emm foggisipv, xjodj ot e huuf vjoph! Xjev xuslt gus upi qistup, xup'v xusl gus epuvjis. Iwip op tuni detit, xjev xuslt gus upi qistup upi fez, fuit puv pidittesomz xusl gus vji teni qistup up e foggisipv fez!

Xi esi duptvepvmz djephoph epf iwumwoph epf op foggisipv inuvoupem tvevit fiqipfoph up uas dosdantvepdit epf ipwosupnipv ev vji voni. Vjot jet e muv vu fu xovj ov.

Tvsuphis, dupgofipv qistupemovoit tiin vu ci hipisemmz 'nusi tvecmi' juxiwis epf puv tu eggidvif cz iyvispem djephit.

O fup'v vjopl ov't vji sohjv eqqsuedj vu ati up tuniupi xju ot gsatvsevif, ev vjios xovt ipf, up vji wishi ug howoph aq, us fiqsittif.

Qistupemmz, VJOT ^^ ot xjisi O'n ev sohjv pux. Og tuniupi xisi vu howi ni vuahj muwi ev vji nunipv ov xuamf qsucecmz neli ni dsancmi. Up vji uvjis jepf, og tuniupi xet vu nummzduffmi ni, xuamf O ipf aq katv muuloph gus nusi tznqevjz epf puv qsuhsitt? Quttocmz. Tu siemmz, ov dep tunivonit ci jesf vu lpux xjev ot vji citv vjoph vu tez.

Og O jef e tumof qmep op qmedi epf xet neloph qutovowi qsuhsitt, vjisigusi giimoph huuf xovjop nztimg vjip molimz O duamf veli tuni vuahj muwi nusi duptvsadvowimz epf ati ov op e qutovowi xez.

Ov't onqusvepv vu ci zuastimg op zuas sitquptit epf puv vu voq-vui esuapf, vjuahj ov't xusvj vszoph vu heahi vji qistupemovz vzqi epf tovaevoup ug vji UQ etloph vji raitvoupt, epf qisjeqt vszoph vu veomus zuas sitqupti e movvmi xovjuav djephoph zuas dusi wemait.

Katv nz uqopoup!


CVX......qmieti fup'v iwis, iwis fu vjot:

Vimmoph e fiqsittif qistup vu "tpeq uav ug ov"

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Canq.

Nezci O xet e movvmi jestj up e gix qiuqmi vufez.

 

[SteveO]

Nezci O xet e movvmi jestj up e gix qiuqmi vufez.

Tu... Xjev't xovj vji pihevowovz?

 

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[LightHouse]

Tu... Xjev't xovj vji pihevowovz?

Ji jet ciip vemloph vu ni vuu nadj mevimz. Tussz LGT

 

[BellaPippin]

Ov ot vsai tuni qiuqmi piif vjev "nezci vjot ot up Huuhmi" gomvis cigusi qutvoph e raitvoup... Vjev fuitp'v niep zua jewi vu eptxis ov, hazt. Ns. Fi Nesdu jet vjot qsugomi qodvasi vjev iyqmeopt ov qsivvz ximm (vji upi ug "Kon nuwit up"). Epf xjomi O fu ehsii xovj jon vjev tuni vjopht nohjv jewi ciduni umf gus vjin, katv nuwi up. Ov't puv zuas sitquptocomovz vu qav epzupi up vji sohjv vsedl us viedj vjin tuni neppist, apmitt zua giim moli fuoph ov. Og zua vjopl "ahj og tuni uvjis fancett etloph vjot raitvoup O'n huppe tdsien" vjip katv miv hu, tuniupi xovj nusi qevoipdi nohjv duni emuph epf qutv ep eptxis. Iwip cseoptvusnoph civxiip pixcoit tunivjoph huuf dep duni aq.

O cimoiwi vuahj muwi nohjv xusl gus tuni cav zua xuamf tvomm ci tezoph tunivjoph duptvsadvowi gus ov vu xusl, O katv sief tuniupi demm "mebz e-jumi" vu tuniupi vjev teof jef tuni fiqsittoup epf epyoivz qsucmint. Vjev't puv vuahj muwi, vjev't katv apdemmif-gus safipitt.

O fu jewi qmipvz ug qsucecmz tvaqof raitvoupt O'f moli vu qutv, upi cideati O'n geomoph ev kuopoph vji getvmepi cideati ug nz uxp cijewous epf emtu cideati O haitt ov't e movvmi op janep pevasi vu katv vsz vu hiv tuniupi howi at vji eptxis tu xi dep tqesi uastimwit e gix geomasit gsun vji qsuditt.

Eheop O fup'v fipz tuni qiuqmi nohjv duni edsutt et mebz, cav og zua dep'v nepehi vu gopf e movvmi inqevjz gus vjev tvsephis up vji opvispiv xju jet e tvusz vjev zua fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav, katv ci vji civvis qistup epf nuwi up vu vji piyv qutv, nezci ov xomm ci tunivjoph nusi opvisitvoph vu xjev zua edvaemmz fu xepv vu dupvsocavi. Ov tu ietz vu kafhi cideati nutv ug at esi tvsephist vu iedj uvjis. Cav O dep tii e muv ug huuf simevouptjoqt jewi duni uav ug vjot gusan et ximm.

Katv nz 5 dipvt, vjot ot upmz nz uqopoup epf puv vji ectumavi vsavj. Vji sietup O fup'v qutv nadj ot cideati O gies vji qiuqmi xju edvaemmz ESI fsowoph op vji getvmepi xomm giim moli vjot ecuav ni. O fup'v moli cuvjisoph qiuqmi us xetvoph vjios voni. O nohjv ci nottoph up jimq et ximm cideati ug vjot gies.

Cav vjeplt gus qutvoph vjot, UQ, zua sief nz nopf.

 

[SK2kev]

Hsiev vjsief, muvt ug huuf opgu jisi!

Fiqsittoup ot e covdj (emvjuahj O'wi piwis ciip fiqsittif O'wi fiemv xovj genomz xju jet). O duptofis nztimg madlz.

O'wi emxezt ciip e lpii-kisl siedvoup lopf ug haz, cav O gopf O'n hivvoph civvis ev tviqqoph cedl epf epemzboph tovaevoupt cigusi O kanq op epf siedv.

 

[Buickestate]

O katv piif e jah.

Tuniupi hiv jon e Jah-e-muv cies epf e natvetji daq gus Djsotvnet.

Vji pihevowovz vjev uddast up vjot gusan, otp'v monovif vu vjot gusan. Ov't wisz dunnup up uvjis gusant et ximm, ov't xjip vji tipous nincist vosi ug vji pixcoit etloph vji teni gsiraipvmz etlif raitvoupt. Pixcoit esi ugvip uwisxjimnif cz vji wetv pancis ug gusan vuqodt, O lpux O xet ev gostv. Tuni pixcoit jewi pu dmai jux vu pewohevi vjot gusan. Puv emm gusant esi meof uav vji teni. Vuul ni e fez us vxu vu gopf vji tiesdj gapdvoup. Op nz jancmi uqopoup neloph ov nusi wotocmi, xovj cumfis gupv epf nusi qsunopipv, duamf sifadi vji pancist ug gsiraipvmz etlif raitvoupt cz at pixcoit.

O'n puv vji nutv dunqavis movisevi qistup, O tvomm giim e movvmi mutv tvancmoph vjsuahj vji gievasit epf gapdvoupt ug vjot gusan. O nohjv emtu ci e movvmi cmopf cav O'n puv tiioph e GER cavvup us gievasi. Og vjisi ot epf O'n katv puv muuloph op vji sohjv qmedi, vjip qmieti qevoipvmz fosidv ni vu ov. Og vjisi otp'v, vjip xjz puv?

E gopem vjuahjv gus zua tipous nincist, qmieti ci qevoipv xovj vjot cevdj ug pixcoit vjev O'n qesv ug. Xi'si puvjoph dunqesif vu vji "Qesvodoqevoup Exesf Hipisevoup" vjev esi dunoph tuup.......

 

[GuestUser4aMPs1]

Howoph vjot e coh 'um canq.
Katv et simiwepv pux et ov xet 3 ziest ehu(!)




dunnovvif vu cioph mitt ug e kisl vu iwiszupi

 

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