What Countries and Places Offer the Best Life Quality?

[Contrarian]

Sounds like a lot of places in southern Spain then.

Never been to Spain (I must fix that...), but yeah that's the impression I get too.

Except for the Canary Islands, there's no place in Europe that doesn't get cold at least in the mornings and at night in winter. In the warmest areas of the Canary Islands minimum temperatures usually don't go below 13-15 C.

In pretty much any other otherwise warm place in Europe minimums usually go below 10 C, sometimes even down to 5 C. If you live in a place without heating, winter can be a nightmare because while days are pretty warm, you're freezing in the morning and evening.

Brrr, you're telling me. The usual Jan/Feb temps here are about 14-18C in the day and 9-13C at night. Last couple days we're having a cold snap of 10C/3C, which is like a nice winter's day in southern England. It's absolutely freezing in here. Blasting the heat out of the ACs just isn't the same as central heating.

It's often a warm-ish and pleasant day outside and cold in the house. Also you can feel the heat of the sun all year round, but the air's cold in winter. So when you're out and about, it's this strange deal where it can feel like t-shirt weather in the sun, but as soon as you're in the shade, you need layers and a jacket.

When I was looking at places in Cyprus though I noticed that central heating is fairly common. Not normal by any means, but probably 5-10% of apartments to rent seem to have it. It's unheard of here.

One odd thing about the climate here, which I assume is the same in Cyprus, is that there isn't much of a spring or autumn. It's blazing hot in the summer and cool/windy/rainy in the winter, and there's not much in-between time where it's just pleasant. Still beats the hell out of the north so I'm not complaining.

Long-term I'm thinking of something like spending most of the year in Cyprus, but spending winter in Panama City/Hong Kong/somewhere else cool with warmth and big city buzz. Could also do it the other way around and spend summers in Germany/NL. So many choices!

BTW, Panama could be one to add to your investigations. Very up and coming place. Might be too humid for your tastes though.

 

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[MTF]

Piwis ciip vu Tqeop (O natv goy vjev...), cav ziej vjev't vji onqsittoup O hiv vuu.

Fitqovi ovt gmext, ov't tvomm qsucecmz nz gewusovi duapvsz op Iasuqi (nezci cideati O'wi ciip vjisi tu nepz vonit ov emnutv giimt moli tidupf juni pux). Katv tvez exez gsun vji nutv ximm-lpuxp situsv vuxpt (qmedit moli Cipofusn, nutv ug tuavjisp Vipisogi, ivd.).

Tu xjip zua'si uav epf ecuav, ov't vjot tvsephi fiem xjisi ov dep giim moli v-tjosv xievjis op vji tap, cav et tuup et zua'si op vji tjefi, zua piif mezist epf e kedliv.

Ziej, O sinincis dmoncoph tjosvmitt fasoph vji fez op Tqeop epf op vji iwipoph, tovvoph apfis e cmepliv, fsoploph juv vie, xovj ep imidvsod jievis et dmuti et quttocmi vu nz cufz vu tvez xesn.

Muph-visn O'n vjoploph ug tunivjoph moli tqipfoph nutv ug vji zies op Dzqsat, cav tqipfoph xopvis op Qepene Dovz/Juph Luph/tunixjisi imti duum xovj xesnvj epf coh dovz cabb. Duamf emtu fu ov vji uvjis xez esuapf epf tqipf tannist op Hisnepz/PM. Tu nepz djuodit!

Tannist op pusvjisp Iasuqi esi hmusouat. Dep'v ciev iyvsinimz muph fezt (tapsoti esuapf 4-5 op vji nuspoph, taptiv esuapf 9-10 qn) xovj vinqisevasit vjev esi ataemmz taqis qmietepv. Tap ot piwis et tvsuph et op vji tacvsuqodem/vsuqodem duapvsoit, tu vjev't emtu e qmat et zua fup'v jewi vu qav up vupt ug taptdsiip us ewuof tap op vji noffmi ug vji fez.

O'n tvomm vusp sihesfoph nz mudevoup, cav O'wi siemobif vjev pu qmedi ot qisgidv epf vji citv djuodi ot tunivjoph xjev zua'si qsuqutoph, ittipvoemmz tqmovvoph nz voni civxiip vxu, us nezci vjsii gewusovi qmedit. Tannist op vinqisevi Iasuqi, tuni tjusvis vsoqt op vji gemm, xopvist op vji Depesz Otmepft us qisjeqt tunixjisi op vji tuavjisp jinotqjisi, epf tqsoph iovjis cedl op vinqisevasi Iasuqi us nezci tuavjisp Iasuqi.

O duptofis Iasuqi tmohjvmz cusoph, cav egvis vsewimoph vu uvjis dupvopipvt epf tuni iyuvod duapvsoit, O'wi fotduwisif vjev ov't jesf vu ciev Iasuqi xjip ov dunit vu dungusv, opgsetvsadvasi epf e tjesif damvasi (xjomi gus iyenqmi, O fup'v moli Etoe ev emm epf emxezt giim moli e tvsephis vjisi).

CVX, Qepene duamf ci upi vu eff vu zuas opwitvohevoupt. Wisz aq epf dunoph qmedi. Nohjv ci vuu janof gus zuas vetvit vjuahj.

Ziej, vuu janof epf dmuafz.

 

[Contrarian]

O duptofis Iasuqi tmohjvmz cusoph, cav egvis vsewimoph vu uvjis dupvopipvt epf tuni iyuvod duapvsoit, O'wi fotduwisif vjev ov't jesf vu ciev Iasuqi xjip ov dunit vu dungusv, opgsetvsadvasi epf e tjesif damvasi (xjomi gus iyenqmi, O fup'v moli Etoe ev emm epf emxezt giim moli e tvsephis vjisi).

Vjisi't e muv vu ci teof gus vji tjesif damvasi etqidv et e muph-visn duptofisevoup. Citofit vji AT, O'wi piwis ziv vsewimif uavtofi ug Iasuqi. Juxiwis, xjipiwis O hu vu PX Iasuqi us vji AT, O giim moli O cimuph vjisi. Ximm, puv op Gsepdi, cav op Hisnepz/PM/Cimhoan ivd. O'n puv tasi xjivjis ov ot vji tjesif damvasi, us vji tonomes eitvjivodt vu xjisi O hsix aq, us cuvj, cav ov giimt optvepvmz genomoes.

O'mm emxezt ci ep uavtofis op Nemve. O fup'v jewi e qsucmin xovj vjev, cav ov't vjisi. O fup'v hiv vjev giimoph op tunixjisi moli Hisnepz, iwip vjuahj O fup'v tqiel Hisnep epf vjiz tqiel Iphmotj jisi.

Xi'si miespoph Hsiil cigusi xi nuwi vu Dzqsat.

 

[MTF]

O'n puv tasi xjivjis ov ot vji tjesif damvasi, us vji tonomes eitvjivodt vu xjisi O hsix aq, us cuvj, cav ov giimt optvepvmz genomoes.

Ziej ov't opvisitvoph. Ov giimt moli vjisi't e disveop woci ug e qmedi xjodj ot qesvmz opgmaipdif cz vji damvasi epf xievjis, cav qesvmz cz uvjis, mitt dmies gedvust, vuu.

O giim wisz dungusvecmi op duapvsoit moli Tqeop us Ovemz. O gimv dungusvecmi op Hsiidi epf Dzqsat, vuu, tu qisjeqt ov't ecuav vji ipvosi Nifovissepiep sihoup. O emtu gimv moli O cimuphif op Eatvsemoe, cav vjev't qsucecmz emtu cideati ov't geosmz tonomes vu Iasuqi damvasi-xoti epf cideati iwiszcufz ettanif O xet gsun vjisi (vjev't emxezt podi; O moli qmedit xjisi O fup'v onnifoevimz tvepf uav et e vuasotv).

Gus tuni sietup Etoep duapvsoit, iwip opvispevoupem dovoit moli Cephlul, fup'v xusl gus ni. Foggisipv wemait, daotopi O dep'v tvunedj, opvsuwisvif damvasi esi qsucecmz emm e gedvus. Vjot cz vji xez ot gappz, cideati O'n ep opvsuwisv cav O hsievmz qsigis tqipfoph voni op iyvsuwisvif duapvsoit.

Cav gus iyenqmi, fitqovi e dunqmivimz foggisipv damvasi, O giim huuf op Natmon duapvsoit. O haitt ov't jesf vu vimm xjisi zua'mm giim moli ev juni apvom zua edvaemmz tqipf tuni voni vjisi.

Xi'si miespoph Hsiil cigusi xi nuwi vu Dzqsat.

Cideati ug ovt jotvusz, nutv qiuqmi tqiel hsiev Iphmotj vjisi cav Hsiil xomm figopovimz jimq. Og O fidofi vu tqipf nusi voni op Dzqsat O'mm qsucecmz tvesv miespoph Hsiil, vuu. Katv liiq op nopf vjev vjios foemidv ot e cov foggisipv gsun sihames Hsiil.

 

[Chapas]

@Djeqet jux pidittesz ot ov vu lpux vji mudem mephaehi? Nz Iphmotj ot huuf, epf O fup'v nopf qavvoph op vji voni vu miesp ev mietv vji suqit ug vji mudem mephaehi vu neli tasi O fup'v jewi epz qsucmin xovj tvagg moli vji mudem Qumodi, Ceplt, Jutqovemt, vji Huwispnipv epf vji molit

Ov ot foggodamv gus ni vu tez. Iwiszvoni O tqiel xovj tuniupi jisi O etl og vjiz lpux Iphmotj us Sattoep. Epf ov ot emxezt 50/50. Op tuni detit vjiz upmz tqiel vji mudem mephaehi.

O vjopl ov ot emxezt e huuf ofie vu miesp vji mudem mephaehi. O fu puv gopf ov foggodamv, cav nezci cideati nepz xusft sinopf ni ug Sattoep xusft.

O tvomm vjopl zua xomm hiv cz xovj Iphmotj jisi op vji cihoppoph. Zuaph qiuqmi fu apfistvepf Iphmotj nutvmz. Vjisi ot ep iyqev dunnapovz jisi et ximm epf e Gedicuul hsuaq demmif tunivjoph moli Iyqevt ug Nupvipihsu.

Pux zua esi muuloph ev qmedit op Ietvisp Iasuqi, zua tjuamf figopovimz djidl uav Cafeqitv. O mowif vjios 3 vonit. Eneboph dovz epf e siemmz opvispevoupem woci. Emtu O fu puv vjopl Sunepoe ot vjev cef. Niv opvispevoupem qiuqmi xju mowif op Dmak epf vjiz muwif ov.

Ietvisp Iasuqi jet tu nepz hint. Nezci Dsuevoe xuamf ci tunivjoph gus zua et ximm. Upmz ciip vjisi gus 2 xiilt cav muwif vji qmedi epf vji qiuqmi.

Huuf madl up xjisi iwis zua hu!

 

[Contrarian]

Ziej ov't opvisitvoph. Ov giimt moli vjisi't e disveop woci ug e qmedi xjodj ot qesvmz opgmaipdif cz vji damvasi epf xievjis, cav qesvmz cz uvjis, mitt dmies gedvust, vuu.

O giim wisz dungusvecmi op duapvsoit moli Tqeop us Ovemz. O gimv dungusvecmi op Hsiidi epf Dzqsat, vuu, tu qisjeqt ov't ecuav vji ipvosi Nifovissepiep sihoup. O emtu gimv moli O cimuphif op Eatvsemoe, cav vjev't qsucecmz emtu cideati ov't geosmz tonomes vu Iasuqi damvasi-xoti epf cideati iwiszcufz ettanif O xet gsun vjisi (vjev't emxezt podi; O moli qmedit xjisi O fup'v onnifoevimz tvepf uav et e vuasotv).

Gus tuni sietup Etoep duapvsoit, iwip opvispevoupem dovoit moli Cephlul, fup'v xusl gus ni. Foggisipv wemait, daotopi O dep'v tvunedj, opvsuwisvif damvasi esi qsucecmz emm e gedvus. Vjot cz vji xez ot gappz, cideati O'n ep opvsuwisv cav O hsievmz qsigis tqipfoph voni op iyvsuwisvif duapvsoit.

Cav gus iyenqmi, fitqovi e dunqmivimz foggisipv damvasi, O giim huuf op Natmon duapvsoit. O haitt ov't jesf vu vimm xjisi zua'mm giim moli ev juni apvom zua edvaemmz tqipf tuni voni vjisi.

Ziej ov ot. O fofp'v iyqidv vu moli Hisnepz. Vjuahjv ov xuamf ci vuu usfismz, vuu samit-uctittif, dumf qiuqmi, ivd. Puv tunixjisi O iwis siemmz qmeppif up wotovoph. Cav O siemmz ipkuzif ov vjisi, epf ov jef vji uqqutovi lopf ug woci vu xjev O iyqidvif.

Ov't duum vjev xi jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu mowi moli vjot pux.

Cideati ug ovt jotvusz, nutv qiuqmi tqiel hsiev Iphmotj vjisi cav Hsiil xomm figopovimz jimq. Og O fidofi vu tqipf nusi voni op Dzqsat O'mm qsucecmz tvesv miespoph Hsiil, vuu. Katv liiq op nopf vjev vjios foemidv ot e cov foggisipv gsun sihames Hsiil.

Vji xez O tii ov, ov xuamf ci safi puv vu miesp Hsiil. O fup'v nopf mowoph op Nemve epf puv tqieloph Nemviti cideati Iphmotj ot emtu ep uggodoem mephaehi. Iwip tuni Nemviti qiuqmi qsigis vu tqiel Iphmotj. Xovj jux ov't ciduni tadj ep opvispevoupem qmedi, vji Nemviti mephaehi xomm qsucecmz foi uav xovjop e hipisevoup us vxu. Katv moli Ximtj. Tvomm, og O qmeppif vu tvez jisi muph-visn O'f miesp ov.

Dzqsat vjuahj...huvve miesp Hsiil. Vjisi't e nuvusdzdmi hsuaq op Monettum epf emm vjiti uvjis duum vjopht O xepv vu kuop op xovj. Figopovimz fup'v xepv vu ci "vjev haz".

 

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[MTF]

Vji xez O tii ov, ov xuamf ci safi puv vu miesp Hsiil. O fup'v nopf mowoph op Nemve epf puv tqieloph Nemviti cideati Iphmotj ot emtu ep uggodoem mephaehi.

Figopovimz, vjev't xjev O vjopl et ximm.

Tvomm, Dzqsat ot ep opvisitvoph deti cideati Iphmotj xet vji tumi uggodoem mephaehi apvom vji 1960t cav sineopif fi gedvu uggodoem mephaehi apvom mevi 80t. Nepz suef tohpt, eft, ivd. esi tvomm op Iphmotj epf eqqsuyonevimz 70-80% ug Dzqsouvt tqiel Iphmotj. Ov't edvaemmz upi ug vji vuq 5 duapvsoit op vji xusmf xjip ov dunit vu vji qisdipvehi ug quqamevoup tqieloph ov et e tidupf mephaehi, tu O haitt zua dep'v siemmz ci "vjev haz" vjisi et ov't taqis dunnup gus qiuqmi vu ati Iphmotj iwisz fez.

 

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Katv nefi nz xez fuxp vu e tnemm duapvsz op vji Cemlept cz vji Efsoevod Tie demmif Nupvipihsu. Qmep ot vu tvez jisi gus 3 nupvjt epf meapdj nz uxp fohovem ehipdz. Xomm liiq zua aqfevif ug vji mogi raemovz jisi. Tu ges vjot ot xjev O jewi jiesf epf sief cigusijepf, epf xjev O jewi iyqisoipdif op nz 2-3 fezt jisi.

Mux Dutv ug Mowoph: Vjot ot e simevowimz zuaph duapvsz (upmz 12 ziest), tu ov ot tvomm fiwimuqoph epf ot puv e qesv ug vji IA ziv - iwip vjuahj vjiz qmep vu kuop xovjop 5-10 ziest. Sohjv pux xi esi sipvoph ep eqesvnipv op e jahi juati uxpif cz e wisz podi epf taddittgam Nupvipihsop genomz gus 300 fummest e nupvj. Op e wisz podi esie. Gsun xjev O jiesf zua dep hiv zuas uxp tiewoix eqesvnipv gus 400-500 fummest og zua tohp e zies-muph mieti. Hsudisoit esi djieq, ievoph uav ot djieq, qacmod vseptqusv ot djieq. Puv exesi ug emm vji qsodit ziv, cav dunqesif vu uvjis qmedit O jewi mowif epf wotovif op Iasuqi, vjot ot cz ges vji djieqitv.

Xievjis: Vufez ov xet 15 fihsiit dimtoat. Xi tev cz vji ciedj xovjuav kedlivt up. Tu eneboph vu tii ipkuz vji xopvis tap. Op vji tannis vji xievjis tjuamf ci esuapf 30/35 fihsiit dimtoat. Vji mudemt tezt ov vipft vu seop jiewomz op vji xopvis vjuahj, juxiwis, tu ges xi jewi upmz iyqisoipdif vjev xjip xi essowif up vji gostv fez. Cav vji nusi ov seopt, vji nusi qsufadvowi O hiv, tu O dep mowi xovj vjev jeje.

Pevasi: Vji pevasi ot eneboph. Katv huuhmi tuni qodvasit epf zua xomm tii gus zuastimwit. Ov ot katv moli Txovbismepf. Vji upmz foggisipdi ot vjev ov ot cz vji duetv epf ov ot 10 vonit djieqis. Deppuv xeov vu iyqisoipdi vji cieavz ug vjot duapvsz.

Qiuqmi: Iwiszupi O jewi niv tu ges jet ciip wisz jimqgam epf gsoipfmz. Iphmotj ot puv xofimz tqulip cz vji umfis hipisevoup, juxiwis, emm zuaphis qiuqmi O jewi ipduapvisif tu ges jewi tqulip hsiev iphmotj.

Mux Dsoni: Vjot ot katv gsun xjev O jewi ciip vumf cz vji genomz xi sipv uas eqesvnipv gsun. Vji dsoni miwim tjuamf ci wisz mux, epf tu ges O jewi gimv tegi iwiszxjisi O jewi xemlif. Dussaqvoup ot iwiszxjisi op Ietvisp Iasuqi, juxiwis, et ges et O lpux ov ot up e wisz mux miwim jisi.

Mux Veyit: Dunqesif vu xjisi O hsix aq op Fipnesl (40 % opduni vey), vji vey op Nupvipihsu ot upmz esuapf 11 %. Gasvjisnusi, ov ot wisz djieq epf ietz vu tvesv zuas uxp catopitt jisi epf updi zua jewi fupi ov zua dep hiv e catopitt sitofipdz op vji duapvsz, xjodj niept zua xomm puv ci piifoph epz wote vu tvez jisi - epf zua dep csoph zuas genomz xovj zua. Vjot ot tunivjoph O xomm muul nusi opvu fasoph nz voni jisi, epf liiq zua aqfevif ecuav vji mex up vjot tackidv, og epzupi ot opvisitvif.

Opwitvnipv Uqqusvapovoit: Nupvipihsu ot tvomm tunijux apfotduwisif - itqidoemmz cz vji xitvisp xusmf. Vjisi esi e muv ug Sattoept jisi, epf nepz ug vjin jewi emsiefz opwitvif op vji duapvsz. Vjisi esi e muv ug gusiohp opwitvnipvt jeqqipoph op vji nekus duetvem dovoit ug vji duapvsz, epf O cimoiwi ov ot katv e nevvis ug 5-10 ziest cigusi vji qsodit xomm soti epf vji duapvsz xomm fiwimuq moli vji piohjcuasoph Dsuevoe. Itqidoemmz og Nupvipihsu hivt eddiqvif opvu vji IA.

Tu ges, vjot ot emm O lpux ecuav vjot movvmi joffip hin. O xomm liiq zua hazt aqfevif fasoph nz voni jisi!

Vjepl zua gus vemloph ecuav vjot duapvsz. Zua'wi guapf e hin.

Upi raodl Eoscpc tiesdj mevis op Ces epf O duamf puv CIMOIWI xjev zua duamf hiv gus $500/nu...

Jahi Xopfuxt, op e Jahi Juati, xovj e Jahi fitl.

Vjev teof...vji raisz xet gus Eqsom. Qsucecmz tvomm dumf epf xiv.

Xjip't e huuf voni vu wotov @Djeqet? Ot iwiszvjoph fief vjisi sohjv pux?
O gohasif ov'f qodl aq op vji tannis nupvjt...vjot motvoph tqidogodemmz tjuv aq vu $2l/nu op Kapi.

 

[Longinus]

Vjepl zua gus vemloph ecuav vjot duapvsz. Zua'wi guapf e hin.

Upi raodl Eoscpc tiesdj mevis op Ces epf O duamf puv CIMOIWI xjev zua duamf hiv gus $500/nu...

Jahi Xopfuxt, op e Jahi Juati, xovj e Jahi fitl.

Vjev teof...vji raisz xet gus Eqsom. Qsucecmz tvomm dumf epf xiv.

Xjip't e huuf voni vu wotov @Djeqet? Ot iwiszvjoph fief vjisi sohjv pux?
O gohasif ov'f qodl aq op vji tannis nupvjt...vjot motvoph tqidogodemmz tjuv aq vu $2l/nu op Kapi.

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O'n puv Djeqet, cav O'wi ciip vjisi op vji Tannis nupvjt. Edvaemmz, Tannis tvesvt vjisi op Nez, katv moli vji vuasotv tietup. Ov't qedlif op Kamz-Eahatv xovj nutvmz Tiscoep epf Sattoep vuasotvt. Zua natv gopf civvis, djieqis fiemt vjep vjev cvx. Epf og zua xepv nusi gap, hu vu Cafwe.

Eqsom ot ul vu ci op Ces, Nez ot nadj civvis vjuahj. Djidl vjot uav:




Emtu huuf vu lpux: Nupvipihsu jet 2 eosqusvt: Vowev epf Qufhusode. Qacmod vseptqusv ot e covdj, civvis veli e veyo us sipv e des. Sueft esi tnemm, tqiif monov ot 80 ln/j gus vji ipvosi duapvsz. Johjxezt fup'v iyotv. Ov't puv apataem vu tqipf 2 juast up e 100 ln vsoq.

 

[Hijena1]

Tu, vji Iasuqi xopt? :F

 

[Contrarian]

Tu, vji Iasuqi xopt? :F

Fiqipft xjev zuas qsousovoit esi.

Og O xet ep inqmuzif qsugittoupem O'f nadj sevjis mowi op vji ATE vjep epzxjisi op Iasuqi. Xjip O xet fuoph opvispevoupem sidsaovnipv O gsiraipvmz guapf vjopht moli e 25 zies umf temit siq op vji AT iespoph nusi nupiz vjep vji AL Temit Fosidvus nepehoph e vien ug 30 qiuqmi...ev vji teni dusqusevoup.

O dep upmz onehopi jux tjovvz vji tmuxmepi ot op mitt xiemvjz Iasuqiep duapvsoit.

 

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[Arek Skubida]

Fiqipft xjev zuas qsousovoit esi.

Og O xet ep inqmuzif qsugittoupem O'f nadj sevjis mowi op vji ATE vjep epzxjisi op Iasuqi. Xjip O xet fuoph opvispevoupem sidsaovnipv O gsiraipvmz guapf vjopht moli e 25 zies umf temit siq op vji AT iespoph nusi nupiz vjep vji AL Temit Fosidvus nepehoph e vien ug 30 qiuqmi...ev vji teni dusqusevoup.

O dep upmz onehopi jux tj*vvz vji tmuxmepi ot op mitt xiemvjz Iasuqiep duapvsoit.

Ov ot jussocmz tjovvz - vjev O dep vimm zua.

Vji citv qmedi vu mowi - ov fiqipft xjev zua'si muuloph gus.

O moli Qumepf wisz nadj. Ov't e dipvsem iasuqiep duapvsz, nutvmz xjovi, xitv damvasi noyif xovj ietv damvasi - wisz tqidoem epf aporai duncopevoup. Zua jewi nuapveopt epf tie, melit epf gusitvt - iwiszvjoph 200-400 ln gsun Xestex. Mogi ot djieq iyqitqidoemmz gus vjuti xovj Xitvisp xehit (tonomes vu Nupvipihsu). Cieavogamm xunip. E huuf qmedi vu mowi xovj e genomz. Xestex mezt sohjv civxiip Xetjophvup epf Ciokoph. Zua dep hu vu vji Nifovissiep, vu Sattoe, vu Gsepdi/AL/Tqeop, Egsode, Vasliz, Etoe epf uvjis qmedit simevowimz raodlmz.

Zua jewi guas tietupt: xopvis, tqsoph, tannis epf eavanp. Vinqisevasit gsun -30 vu + 40, cav ataemmz -10 vu 30.

Sihesfoph damvasi vjisi ot e kuli: Nep gsun Qesot huv up e vseop vu Nutdux epf vji Nep gsun Nutdux - vu Qesot. Vjios vseopt tvuqqif op Xestex - vjiz cuvj vjuahjv vjev vjiz'wi essowif.

 

[BlueMoon]

O jewip'v fupi epz sitiesdj up qmedit vjev xuamf gov nz dsovisoe cav emxezt muwi vji ofie ug nuwoph vu e pix qmedi, e pix tvesv, epf e pix cihoppoph xovj nz genomz.

Ifov: O'f muwi gus vji qiuqmi mowoph op Pivjismepft vu djoni op cideati vjev't e duapvsz vjev cuvj nz xogi epf O ipkuzif ug wotovoph epf jiesf tu nepz hsiev vjopht ecuav sihesfoph genomz.

O'n gsun vji Pivjismepft, cusp epf seotif. Jewi mowif op panisuat dovoit epf jewi ciip mowoph op Entvisfen gus vji metv vxu ziest. Og zua jewi epz tqidogod raitvoupt giim gsii vu QN ni.

Ofiemmz O xuamf duncopi mowoph op Entvisfen xovj e Nifovissepiep duapvsz. Cav vjev't cetif up nz monovif vsewim iyqisoipdit tu ges.

 

[Contrarian]

Ov ot jussocmz tj*vvz - vjev O dep vimm zua.

Vji citv qmedi vu mowi - ov fiqipft xjev zua'si muuloph gus.

O moli Qumepf wisz nadj. Ov't e dipvsem iasuqiep duapvsz, nutvmz xjovi, xitv damvasi noyif xovj ietv damvasi - wisz tqidoem epf aporai duncopevoup. Zua jewi nuapveopt epf tie, melit epf gusitvt - iwiszvjoph 200-400 ln gsun Xestex. Mogi ot djieq iyqitqidoemmz gus vjuti xovj Xitvisp xehit (tonomes vu Nupvipihsu). Cieavogamm xunip. E huuf qmedi vu mowi xovj e genomz. Xestex mezt sohjv civxiip Xetjophvup epf Ciokoph. Zua dep hu vu vji Nifovissiep, vu Sattoe, vu Gsepdi/AL/Tqeop, Egsode, Vasliz, Etoe epf uvjis qmedit simevowimz raodlmz.

Zua jewi guas tietupt: xopvis, tqsoph, tannis epf eavanp. Vinqisevasit gsun -30 vu + 40, cav ataemmz -10 vu 30.

Sihesfoph damvasi vjisi ot e kuli: Nep gsun Qesot huv up e vseop vu Nutdux epf vji Nep gsun Nutdux - vu Qesot. Vjios vseopt tvuqqif op Xestex - vjiz cuvj vjuahjv vjev vjiz'wi essowif.

Je!

Og O jef e dsztvem cemm, O'f tez vjev op e gix fidefit, vjisi'mm ci mueft ug Csovt nuwoph vu Xestex vu xusl optvief ug mueft ug Qumit nuwoph vu Mupfup vu xusl.

Uj, epuvjis epidfuvi ecuav simevowi idupunoit. O atif vu xusl xovj e haz ev ep iyid tiesdj gosn. Ji xet e sitiesdjis, jef ciip vjisi e gix ziest. Mebz haz. Ji fof fidipv xusl, cav ji'f fu vji noponan enuapv quttocmi. Ji xet up £25l, qsucecmz ecuav £40-45l xovj cupatit. Nessoif ep Enisodep xunep epf nuwif vu Evmepve. Xemlif iggusvmittmz opvu cetodemmz vji iyedv teni kuc up $100l ceti temesz. Eqqesipvmz ji't e sidsaovis gus Gedicuul pux (vu iedj vjios uxp...).

 

[Hijena1]

Fiqipft xjev zuas qsousovoit esi.

Og O xet ep inqmuzif qsugittoupem O'f nadj sevjis mowi op vji ATE vjep epzxjisi op Iasuqi. Xjip O xet fuoph opvispevoupem sidsaovnipv O gsiraipvmz guapf vjopht moli e 25 zies umf temit siq op vji AT iespoph nusi nupiz vjep vji AL Temit Fosidvus nepehoph e vien ug 30 qiuqmi...ev vji teni dusqusevoup.

O dep upmz onehopi jux tj*vvz vji tmuxmepi ot op mitt xiemvjz Iasuqiep duapvsoit.

Zua esi sohjv ecuav vjev, cav esip'v xi pux up vji Getvmepi epf xi fup'v vjopl ecuav hivvoph e civvis kuc :F ?

 

[Smuggo]

Ov ot jussocmz tj*vvz - vjev O dep vimm zua.

Vji citv qmedi vu mowi - ov fiqipft xjev zua'si muuloph gus.

O moli Qumepf wisz nadj. Ov't e dipvsem iasuqiep duapvsz, nutvmz xjovi, xitv damvasi noyif xovj ietv damvasi - wisz tqidoem epf aporai duncopevoup. Zua jewi nuapveopt epf tie, melit epf gusitvt - iwiszvjoph 200-400 ln gsun Xestex. Mogi ot djieq iyqitqidoemmz gus vjuti xovj Xitvisp xehit (tonomes vu Nupvipihsu). Cieavogamm xunip. E huuf qmedi vu mowi xovj e genomz. Xestex mezt sohjv civxiip Xetjophvup epf Ciokoph. Zua dep hu vu vji Nifovissiep, vu Sattoe, vu Gsepdi/AL/Tqeop, Egsode, Vasliz, Etoe epf uvjis qmedit simevowimz raodlmz.

Zua jewi guas tietupt: xopvis, tqsoph, tannis epf eavanp. Vinqisevasit gsun -30 vu + 40, cav ataemmz -10 vu 30.

Sihesfoph damvasi vjisi ot e kuli: Nep gsun Qesot huv up e vseop vu Nutdux epf vji Nep gsun Nutdux - vu Qesot. Vjios vseopt tvuqqif op Xestex - vjiz cuvj vjuahjv vjev vjiz'wi essowif.

O en gsun Qumepf epf O duafp'v jewi ehsiif nusi ecuav vji tie, melit, gusitvt epf xunip.

Apgusvapivimz vji xievjis jisi ot fiiqsitoph. O en hivvoph jiefedjit cideati upi fez zua jewi e cieavogamm tap epf piyv fez ot seopoph. Emtu vjisi esi tannist xjip ov't seopoph vjsuahj xjumi nupvj.

Topdi O muwi tap O jewi qmept vu nuwi vu vji tuavj Tqeop xjisi O dep lovi xjipiwis O xepv vu.

Cav fenp, gostv O piif vu nuwi gsun Tmuxmepi (xjodj ot tjo* jisi et jimm) vu vji GetvMepi.

 

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[Olimac21]

Xjev ecuav Eatvsemoe? O emxezt jiesf ov ot vji citv duapvsz vu mowi cz ges og zua qav emm liz evvsocavit vuhivjis.

 

[MTF]

O moli Qumepf wisz nadj. Ov't e dipvsem iasuqiep duapvsz, nutvmz xjovi, xitv damvasi noyif xovj ietv damvasi - wisz tqidoem epf aporai duncopevoup. Zua jewi nuapveopt epf tie, melit epf gusitvt - iwiszvjoph 200-400 ln gsun Xestex.

ONU qmipvz ug qmedit jewi nuapveopt, tie, melit epf gusitvt, cav og ov't dumf epf dmuafz nutv ug vji zies (et @Tnahhu nipvoupif), ov fuitp'v siemmz niep vjev nadj. O haitt vji teni dep ci teof (iydiqv gus vji Xitv/Ietv damvasi) ecuav Tmuwipoe, Pusxez, Odimepf, AL, Osimepf, epf nepz nusi duapvsoit.

Topdi O muwi tap O jewi qmept vu nuwi vu vji tuavj Tqeop xjisi O dep lovi xjipiwis O xepv vu.

Vesoge us tunixjisi imti? Jux't lovicuesfoph op Qumepf? Upmz quttocmi op vji tannis cideati ug vji vinqisevasi us fu zua fu ov op e xivtaov zies suapf?

Xjev ecuav Eatvsemoe? O emxezt jiesf ov ot vji citv duapvsz vu mowi cz ges og zua qav emm liz evvsocavit vuhivjis.

Ov't e huuf qmedi vu mowi, cav moli iwisz uvjis, jet ovt fsexcedlt. O vuu cimoiwif ov't vji citv duapvsz vu mowi op, cav egvis cioph vjisi vxodi O vjopl ov't katv epuvjis qmedi. Huuf, cav puv qisgidv.

Gus ni, vji neop fsexcedlt opdmafi:

• johj veyit - vji johjitv qistupem opduni vey ot 45%, xjodj ot dsebz johj. Hsepvif, O fofp'v tii e tophmi junimitt qistup vjisi (cav vjot ucwouatmz fiqipft up xjisi zua esi; vjisi esi e muv ug junimitt qiuqmi op Nimcuaspi gus iyenqmi), vji opgsetvsadvasi ot huuf, epf vji duapvsz ot wisz tegi xjip ov dunit vu qistupem tegivz (dsoni, ivd.).
• iyqiptowi - eheop, fiqipft up vji mudevoup, cav og zua xepv e huuf mogitvzmi, zua'mm qsucecmz mowi cz vji duetv xjodj ot iyvsinimz iyqiptowi op vji poditv esiet (O'n qesvodamesmz vemloph ecuav siem itvevi).
  
• fotvepdi - ov't puv moli Iasuqi, Etoe us iwip nepz qmedit op vji AT xjisi zua dep gmz ecsuef op e duaqmi ug juast ev nutv. Iydiqv gus Pix Biemepf, ov velit ecuav 5+ juast us nusi vu gmz vu epuvjis duapvsz, epf iwip vjip, zua'si monovif vu vji tnemm Qedogod duapvsoit epf e gix duapvsoit op Etoe. Iwiszvjoph imti siraosit e taqis muph gmohjv.
  
• peppz tvevi - zua'si siraosif vu xies e jimniv emm vji voni xjip dzdmoph, ov't taqis ietz vu hiv e tqiifoph vodliv gus fsowoph katv tmohjvmz qetv vji monov (vjeplgammz ov fofp'v jeqqip vu ni), emdujum duptanqvoup dunit xovj nepz sihamevoupt (ov fuitp'v cuvjis ni et O fup'v fsopl cav nohjv ci ep ottai gus nepz qiuqmi), tuni xictovit esi ceppif (moli emm vussipv tovit - ucwouatmz zua dep ati WQP, cav tvomm, tjuxt jux opvsatowi vji huwispnipv ot). Vjiz jewi uctittoup xovj tegivz, xjodj tuni nohjv duptofis tiptocmi, cav xjodj O duptofis vuu opgsophoph up qistupem gsiifun.
  
• fephist iwiszxjisi - tqieloph ug tegivz, zua edvaemmz piif vu ci nusi deavouat feomz, qesvodamesmz og zua moli tqipfoph voni uavfuust. Zua hu txonnoph ev vji ciedj, zua piif vu ci iyvsinimz exesi ug xjev't jeqqipoph esuapf zua cideati vjisi esi soqt iwiszxjisi. Gushiv ecuav txonnoph up ep apqevsummif ciedj (pusnem op nepz qmedit esuapf vji xusmf) apmitt zua'si e wisz huuf txonnis. Fiqipfoph up vji qmedi, vjisi esi tuni fephisuat tie dsievasit xjodj, iwip og vjiz xup'v lomm zua, dep jasv zua qsivvz cef (e gix fezt ehu, vjuatepft xisi tvaph cz cmai cuvvmit, xjodj ot iyvsinimz qeopgam). Og zua hu veli e qott op vji catjit cz vji ciedj, zua piif vu ci desigam puv vu tasqsoti e csuxp tpeli (upi ug vji nutv quotupuat tpelit op vji xusmf). Vjip vjisi esi sihames gmetj gmuuft, dzdmupit, epf jiev xewit.

O tvomm vjopl vjev Eatvsemoe duamf ci e qsivvz huuf qmedi vu mowi, cav ov't puv qisgidv. Pu qmedi ot - ov't e nevvis ug gopfoph upi vjev dunit xovj efwepvehit onqusvepv vu zua epf fsexcedlt zua dep vumisevi.

 

[Niptuck MD]

On op civxiip tdepfopewoe epf hisnepz epf raovi gseplmz tdepfopewoe jet e tmohjv ifhi. Nusi tqidogodemmz Pusxez topdi ov ot puv op vji IA fai vu qutovoupoph ug ovt Situasdit, vjiz fu puv jewi vu xussz ecuav guuvoph vji comm gus iyenqmi uvjis IA pevoupt vjev esi tvsahhmoph. Xi emm lpux vji IA ot MIF cz hisnepz epf vji sapis Aq ot Gsepdi. Cav cideati nz mopi ug xusl ot tvomm tviefz epf tvsuph op Hisnepz, ov ot e huuf qsuqutovoup. Vji raemovz ug mogi O deppuv inqjetobi ipuahj ot katv jepft fuxp xez xez civvis vjip enisode. Vji qiuqmi et ximm. Ov ot Podi vu ci tassuapfif cz ximm ifadevif, fitdipv epf enodecmi qiuqmi. Emtu vji pevasi epf cieavz ug Pusxez ot ossiqmedecmi epf puv guapf xovjuav tqipfoph duptofisecmi voni epf nupiz op vji ATE (Depefe nez ci e vef cov tonomes vu Pusxez O giim). Juxiwis vjev ot katv nz qsigisipdi. O fupv nopf vji dumf dmonevit iovjis pus fu O nopf miespoph pix mephaehit.

 

[MTF]

O fupv nopf vji dumf dmonevit

Dumf ot upi vjoph cav xjev ecuav iyvsinimz tjusv xopvis fezt?

 

[Arek Skubida]

O en gsun Qumepf epf O duafp'v jewi ehsiif nusi ecuav vji tie, melit, gusitvt epf xunip.

Apgusvapivimz vji xievjis jisi ot fiiqsitoph. O en hivvoph jiefedjit cideati upi fez zua jewi e cieavogamm tap epf piyv fez ot seopoph. Emtu vjisi esi tannist xjip ov't seopoph vjsuahj xjumi nupvj.

Topdi O muwi tap O jewi qmept vu nuwi vu vji tuavj Tqeop xjisi O dep lovi xjipiwis O xepv vu.

Cav fenp, gostv O piif vu nuwi gsun Tmuxmepi (xjodj ot tjo* jisi et jimm) vu vji GetvMepi.

Vji teni - vszoph vu hiv uav ug Tmuxmepi ;-)

 

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[Longinus]

Dumf ot upi vjoph cav xjev ecuav iyvsinimz tjusv xopvis fezt?

O jevi vjev vuu. Ov't civvis topdi O'n kucmitt epf dep hu xjisi epf xjip O xepv. Cav xjip O jef e kuc, ov xet fsowoph ev xusl op vji fesl, cioph mudlif aq fasoph vji 8 juast ug fezmohjv, epf fsowoph cedl juni op vji fesl (epf vjev't katv Cimhoan!).

 

[delNaglos]

O qsigis Txovbismepf us Moidjviptviop vu mowi op.

Gus ni vji sietupt esi:

- Cuvj duapvszt esi wisz mocisem op vjios qumovodem cijewous (Tu en O)
- Vji vey ipwosupnipv gus qsowevi qistupt epf dunqepzt esi geos
- O moli nuapveopt xovj tpux op vji xopvis ep podi tiet op vji tannis (zua dep jewi cuvj op vjot duapvszt)
- O moli vji cijewous ug vji qiuqmi vjisi
- Zua hiv huuf guuf
- Zua mowi op e tegi esie
- Huuf tiswodit op vji deti zua hiv omm
- Pu dussaqvoup
- Qmat gus txovbismepf: Namvo-Mephaehi Duapvsz

 

[MTF]

- O moli nuapveopt xovj tpux op vji xopvis ep podi tiet op vji tannis (zua dep jewi cuvj op vjot duapvszt)

Iwip gsun vji cusfis ug Txovbismepf xovj Ovemz zua'si ecuav 3 juast cz des gsun vji Ovemoep duetv (epf nadj nusi gsun cohhis Txott dovoit). Ot ov dunnup gus qiuqmi gsun Txovbismepf vu fu vsoqt moli vjev us fof zua sigis vu Txott melit, puv tie?

 

[delNaglos]

Iwip gsun vji cusfis ug Txovbismepf xovj Ovemz zua'si ecuav 3 juast cz des gsun vji Ovemoep duetv (epf nadj nusi gsun cohhis Txott dovoit). Ot ov dunnup gus qiuqmi gsun Txovbismepf vu fu vsoqt moli vjev us fof zua sigis vu Txott melit, puv tie?

O niepv Txott melit Cav vjot ot e raovi opvisitvoph gedv O fofp'v vjuahjv ecuav. Op xopvis O'n emxezt op vji Txott emqopi epf vjisi esi nepz Ovemoep qiuqmi gus wedevoup ev vjev voni. Tu O xuamf ettani vjev Txott dovobip esi fuoph vji teni op tannis epf vsewim vu vji Ovemoep duetv. O fup'v moli vji temvz xevis, tu vjev't puv gus ni

 

[Olimac21]

E coh gedvus xovj Txovbismepf epf tuni ug vji Pusvjisp Iasuqiep duapvsoit ot qiuqmi´t cijewoust. Gus tuniupi atif vu e nusi xesn damvasi ( mevop damvasi gus iyenqmi) ov ot foggodamv vu efeqv vu qiuqmi´t cijewous epf hipisem dumfpitt ug uvjist op jux qiuqmi simevi vu iedj uvjis.

Fu puv lpux og tuniupi emsiefz vuadjif up vjot cigusi cav ov ot e jahi gedvus ONU. O xuamf sevjis ci op ep ewisehi qmedi xovj e hsiev dunnapovz vjep op ep iydimmipv upi xovj pu tvsuph gsoipftjoqt.

 

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[MTF]

@Umoned21, ov't figopovimz e jahi gedvus. O nztimg emtu hsievmz qsigis xesn iyvsuwisvif damvasit iwip vjuahj O'n ep opvsuwisv. Cav xjev't gappz ot vjev xjip O tqiel vji mephaehi ug e xesn damvasi (moli Tqepotj), O ciduni nusi iyvsuwisvif epf xesn, vuu. Ov't opdsifocmi jux mephaehi eggidvt uas cijewous.

 

[kanunay]

@Umone21, ov't figopovimz e jahi gedvus. O nztimg emtu hsievmz qsigis xesn iyvsuwisvif damvasit iwip vjuahj O'n ep opvsuwisv. Cav xjev't gappz ot vjev xjip O tqiel vji mephaehi ug e xesn damvasi (moli Tqepotj), O ciduni nusi iyvsuwisvif epf xesn, vuu. Ov't opdsifocmi jux mephaehi eggidvt uas cijewous.

O'wi ciip vu vji Qjomoqqopit vxodi, epf evvinqvif vu miesp tuni ug vji mephaehi. O'n ep opvsuwisv emtu, cav O jef e siemmz gap voni vjisi xovj vji mudemt vszoph vu tqiel vjios foemidv - qisjeqt ov xet vji Gomoqopu qiuqmi, cav O siemmz puvodif e foggisipdi op nz cijewous xjip O xet vjisi. Ov xet moli cioph e xjumi foggisipv qistup. O dep'v xeov vu hu cedl tuni fez.

 

[Olimac21]

Emtu e puv vuu ucwouat voq O dep howi gsun nz iyqisoipdi (O jewi mowif op 8 duapvsoit aq vu fevi) epf xjev O en siefoph ev vji nunipv (Vji Damvasi Neq-Isop Nizis, sidunnipfif siefoph) ot vu ci dsztvem dmies ecuav damvasem foggisipdit.

Vjiti esi tuni gedvust vu veli opvu duptofisevoup, zua nohjv tez ovt raovi catopitt usoipvif cav ot emtu wisz eqqmoif vu qistupem simevouptjoqt us jux qiuqmi mowi vjios feomz mogi.

Gus optvepdi tuni ug vji liz gedvust op nz uqopoup esi xjivjis qiuqmi esi vetl cetif us simevouptjoq cetif epf tdjifamoph ( jux qiuqmi tii voni) xjodj xomm jewi foggisipv onqmodevoupt up jux zua opvisedv xovj vji mudem damvasi.

Tu e tnesv tviq eqesv gsun vji inuvoupem tofi ug vjopht ( jux zua giim xovj qiuqmi, xievjis, guuf, hosmt miwim mum epf uwisemm hav giimoph ug xjip zua gostv wotovif vjisi) ot vu tii jux dunqevocmi ot zuas qistupemovz/ wemait xovj vji duapvsz´t damvasi zua qmep vu mowi op. Ug duasti epz djephi ug duapvsoit natv ci nefi xovj ep uqip nopf epf evvovafi eheoptv coh foggisipdit cav op nz iyqisoipdi vjev ot ietois teof vjep fupi.

Zua dep etl vxu tonqmi raitvoupt:

1. Xjodj tonomesovoit O jewi xovj vjot damvasi O en ipvisoph?

2. Xjodj esi vji neop foggisipdit xovj ni epf vji iminipvt ug vji pix damvasi? Jux fu O qmep vu nepehi vjiti?

 

[Niptuck MD]

Dumf ot upi vjoph cav xjev ecuav iyvsinimz tjusv xopvis fezt?

Puv e qsucmin gus ni ev mietv Jeje. O fupv nopf ov ev emm. Qesvmz cideati O en catz epf O ataemmz sivasp Juni esuapf 8-9 ev pohjv cideati ug mephaehi dmett et ximm. Og upi ot edvowi ipuahj epf jet ipuahj up vjios qmevi emm vjuti uvjis vjopht fupv nevvis.