That's a good point. My resentment clouded my logic on that one.@404profound your mindset is closed. open it. has nothing to do with TR.
Look for help from ALL sources. There is something you can take from everything.
Dude owns 30+ companies and helps millions. Surely there is something you can sift through and find that will help you on your journey......
It would be like me never reading another thing you wrote and thinking everyone that did is a fool......
No. At some point you are going to say something that helps me! Open mindset!
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I have always had a problem with Dave Ramsey telling people to get rich by putting their money in envelopes, when he got rich selling them books.
I have always had a problem with Suz Orman telling people to delay to retirement until 70, as she wrote that from her retirement villa well below 70. You can't make this shit up.
Tony Robbins telling people to use compound interest to get rich is selling "healthy" ice cream at a beach to fatties and telling them they're making a good lifestyle choice.
Tony Mosque and spending thousands to be in the graces of his charades?
Suppose Tony tells his mainstream audience to stop trading time for money and find clever niches where they can automate whatever value they provide.
I'd consider that highly irresponsible.
that would take 10 days to climb, would you condemn the staircase because the builder didn't use it to get to the top?
Grant Cardone however....
Would it surprise you to hear he's a Scientologist? (not that there's anything wrong with that).
And I agree with MJ on Dan Lok. He' gives away SO much value but it's up to you to pick it up and do something with it. (hrm, kinda like MJ.....)
I avoided the Tony rage in the late 80s early 90s. I was busy with 7 Habits and my Harley.
Have you read Shoe Dog by Phil Knight (The Creator of Nike)? It’s one of my favorite biographies.Very rarely have I found good advice from people intentionally giving them out. Coaches and Gurus making a living of off motivating and teaching how to make money, and charging for it? That eliminates credibility on the spot. IMHO. Over time, I've found that I get the best lessons from biographies. Reading between the lines, seeing how people make decisions and why... For example, I'm finishing "The Store of Everything" which tells Amazon and Bezos' story... fascinating how the guy left a "decent" job in NY to pursue this project... how his wife supported him, the different challenges and roadblocks he encountered... resilience, persistence, anger, grind... it's all here... Elon Musk from Ashlee Vance is another one... so on and so forth.
Thanks! I haven't read it nor heard of it. I can use a non-tech related biography. Thanks for sharing!!Have you read Shoe Dog by Phil Knight (The Creator of Nike)? It’s one of my favorite biographies.
When I started out by reading Kiyosaki's stuff, I was on track to go into his rabbit hole.If I was 20 years old and struggling to find my way, what would I think if I heard Tony spew this crap? Would I be mentally disciplined enough to critically think about it? Considering I held Tony on a pedestal, I might have accepted it as gospel, and that it was the ONLY way to be financially free.
Keep in mind, I listened to Tony (and read his books) because I didn't want to be normal. I wanted MORE than the "work M-F for a weekend and a stable retirement at 65" routine.
I viewed Tony as a medium, an adviser, and a mentor to get out of this trap.
Great points!Alright. I've been called out in private that I kinda posted a snarky a**hole response so allow me to give a more thoughtful response without the sarcastic attitude I normally provide.
Tony Robbins has been the number one success coach on the planet for many years. This is his 42nd year doing what he does.
When you think of the people who have shaped our world... real influencers. People who have built more, gave more, done more, or contributed the most to society -- who do you envision?
Martin Luther King, Jr.? Ghandi? Nelson Mandela? Mother Theresa? Mikhail Gorbachev? Hell, I'd agree with you. Those people shaped generations of people from all walks of life.
Today. Out of who is alive -- who are the greatest influencers? I mean people GENUINELY making an impact on our society, how we think, how we behave, and how much the contribute...
Maybe Bill and Melinda Gates? Richard Branson? Elon Musk? And, of course, Tony Robbins.
Who has had more of an impact on our world TODAY (who is alive) than these people?
Let's step back for a second for those of you who think Tony Robbins is "just some sell-out guru".
You are forgetting these last two books: Money, Master the Game and Unshakeable are side projects of his. The idea was to help the average person protect themselves from people taking advantage of financial ignorance. People who don't understand that for every 1% of fees, due to compound interest, results in almost 10 years of retirement income.
That's some pretty important F*cking information to understand. Financial literacy is everything. Tony also goes on to say that the number one way you're going to thrive (not just survive) is to learn how to build a business and provide more value than anyone else... but as I've been put on the stake for in the past here on the forum -- I have to say it again... if you actually read the book, love it or hate it... you'd know that.
Here's the thing -- headline reading doesn't educate you on the guy's 41 year career.
But let's do some headline reading for a second...
Out of the dozen books that he wrote here are the best sellers:
And of course, Money: Master the Game and Unshakeable.
- Unlimited Power
- Notes from a Friend
- Awaken The Giant Within
His new book on health will more than likely come out at the end of the year.
But F*ck the books. How about audio programs? What he is ACTUALLY known for around the world for the past 40 years...
- Personal Power
- The Ultimate Edge
- Mastering Influence
- Time of your life
- The Body you Deserve
- Creating Lasting Change
- The Ultimate Relationship Program
Personal Power's infomercial alone was on TV every 30 minutes somewhere in the world for 26 years straight. The greatest selling personal development program of all time. It is still by far the best program Tony has.
How about the live events?
- Unleash the Power Within
- Date with Destiny
- Business Mastery
- Life Mastery
- Wealth Mastery
Robbins Research International has literally been the number one personal development business in the category for 40 years... nobody even touches it. Not Mark Burnett's Success Resources. Not Dale Carnegie. Not Ziggy. Denis Waitley. Brian Tracy -- and listen, I F*cking LOVE those guys. None of them have had the impact Tony has. It's not even close.
But how about we get out of the "guru" space... because he's just a guru, right? Has no idea how to run a business?
52 other companies. 6 billion dollars a year in revenue. None of them in the personal development or "guru" space. Actually there's about a 80% chance everyone on this thread is a customer of his, you just don't know he owns the company.
The guy feeds 250 million people per year by himself. He planted 15,000 trees in Africa this year... which if you don't understand the impact, it means that in certain areas that literally takes the local income from $2 per day to $12 per day (yes because of a forest that wasn't there)... He literally bought 1,200 kids to get them out of sexual slavery and started coaching them. His programs are donated to millions of mental health practitioners, doctors, schools, and prisons every single year...
He's put thousands of kids through school... he's purchased stem cell companies to build and give the average person access to health stuff they would never have.
So here's the deal:
Call me a fool if you want. Call everyone foolish.
I'm not trying to convince you by any means. All I'm saying is get your facts straight.
Maybe go out and give some kind of value to this world instead of sitting behind a keyboard and bitching.
There goes my sarcastic attitude again. Almost made it the whole post.
I see your perspective but I think you're comparing apples to oranges, and on multiple fronts.
First, Tony's audience are not lazy plebs sitting on the couch all day. They are people who want MORE out of life, they want to live dreams, excel, and live financially free. No one listens to Tony because they want to work 50 years and put their entire life savings into the stock market, or with the firms Tony "recommends."
There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, those people are needed to make society to work. If not, who is going to provide key services like picking up trash or being a nurse?
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