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BTW, there are ideas and there are ideas... For instance, if you have an idea for a product (as opposed to a service) - you could easily test the licensing route, as a low cost and low risk way of getting your feet wet.

[ I'm still working in that direction, as ] It allows you to concentrate on your added value (the concept/design) and let the heavy lifting go to the people/companies who already know how to do that.

Also, if you are in search of ideas, here's a really interesting talk I heard recently. Danny is a really good guy & this is worth a listen (the first 2 1/2 minutes is *not* indicative of the content.) He runs the center for entrepreneurship @ Brown University, but he's practical and not "too" academic in his presentation, on:
Bottom-Up Research: The Most Critical Skill in Entrepreneurship
 

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Also, if you are in search of ideas, here's a really interesting talk I heard recently. Danny is a really good guy & this is worth a listen (the first 2 1/2 minutes is *not* indicative of the content.) He runs the center for entrepreneurship @ Brown University, but he's practical and not "too" academic in his presentation, on:
Bottom-Up Research: The Most Critical Skill in Entrepreneurship
This video has more value than one may think.
Highly recommend. EXCELLENT.
 

LoveLife

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You will get the ice cream soon, my friend. And we will proceed to get drunk, sing, dance, and break things.
@IceCreamKid Inifinite thanks for your thread and awesome posts!<3

So far, I'm only at page 1/38 but already so ice creamy! I want more. Lol
You know at some point I wondered if you are this person I saw on many YouTube videos lately...

I love your vibe indeed! And I like your way to write. Copywriting well done! Specially the images with the ice cream/icre cream shop.

It's surprising how you stay zen in everything you say (on this 1 page :)). Like with the peorson who was in a negative mindset, you came not bothered. Yes it fits with the Love everyone priniciple.

Soon, we will sing and dance together with our ice creams! :)
 

Mark Fobo

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What’s up guys. Some of you may remember me from my thread in which I thanked zen******* for dropping wisdom bombs all over the world. If you haven’t checked that thread out, please take a look at it and get moving with learning copywriting so you can learn how to print your own money(legally).

I’m starting this thread because Z told me to share the ice cream with others. I have mad respect for the guy so naturally it had to be done. By golly, all I used to have was a little pint of ice cream for myself and now I have an ice cream factory for everybody to eat from! There is a seat reserved for you at the table of abundance, but it’s up to you to work for it.

I will be explaining the secret Zen side of the Dolphin that he never speaks of, but has become glaringly obvious to those who study the WHY and HOW behind his posts.

But before I dive into giving you some ice cream, a little bit about myself…

27 years old. Was a wantrepreneur for a long time, but didn’t even know it. Yup, I ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Started a bunch of different businesses for all the wrong reasons so I ultimately failed at each one. A few years into it, I finally hit the bottom and got sick of the shit life I was living so I wrote into my journal and started reflecting. It went something like, “I’m tired of who I am. Tired of the life I’m living. Tired of seeing all my friends get ahead in their corporate job while I’m here trying to figure things out. Just sick of my life in general”. Bottom line, I was at my lowest point and the fire under my a$$ was burning so hot that I had no other choice but to take some dedicated immediate action to get real results…or risk being forever frustrated in the hamster wheel of the 9-5.

Studied zen*******’s posts very closely and began to read in between the lines of what he was saying. I wasn’t looking for business strategies. I wanted to know and understand the mindset behind the madman. Why was he doing X? How was he doing Y?

Started learning copy. I read some books and copied some sales letters by hand for a few months. My day looked something like this: Work the 9-5. Go home pissed as hell at my boss. Drink, write copy, drink, write copy, pass out drunk. Repeat for a long time until I got a good grasp of writing copy. I don’t recommend drinking to learn copy…ice cream seems to work pretty well too. Drinking is fun though…I’d rather burn as bright as a 1,000 watt bulb and burn out in 10-minutes than live life like a 10-watt bulb for the next 40 years.

Armed with my new knowledge of copy, I set forth to start a software business. While interviewing many different people in many different industries, I discovered a real need that couldn’t be solved online but could be taken care of offline…I prefer offline businesses anyway so I jumped into it head first. You can start an offline business faster because you don’t have to spend months on software development.

30 days later my sales were in the low 5-figure range. Let me tell you…when you go from making crap money and barely scraping to get by, to suddenly making 5-figures a month the feeling is sweeter than a gallon of ice cream.

That’s my story in a nutshell. I left out a lot of the details of the mental struggle: broken heart, angry parents, isolated friends, etc.

I will respectfully decline any requests to disclose what my business is. This forum was once a close knit group of homies, but with the success of MJ’s book there are now tons of new members and a few took the liberty of stealing from some of the greatest contributors here. The mindset is 80% of the game anyway and that’s what I’m trying to teach here.

On to the lessons…
Thank you for sharing your experience, I can relate to what you wrote and can agree that self discipline and never giving up will pay off. What kept you going? Whether it was an activity or thoughts, what kept you motivated to reach your goal?
 

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…I’m actually quite happy with my 2001 Nissan Maxima, my Levi’s jeans, and my sweatshirt.
I loved the 2001 Maximas. I had a 93 that was great. Currently rocking an Acura that has 215,000 on it. God I love that car.
 

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What’s up guys. Some of you may remember me from my thread in which I thanked zen******* for dropping wisdom bombs all over the world. If you haven’t checked that thread out, please take a look at it and get moving with learning copywriting so you can learn how to print your own money(legally).

I’m starting this thread because Z told me to share the ice cream with others. I have mad respect for the guy so naturally it had to be done. By golly, all I used to have was a little pint of ice cream for myself and now I have an ice cream factory for everybody to eat from! There is a seat reserved for you at the table of abundance, but it’s up to you to work for it.

I will be explaining the secret Zen side of the Dolphin that he never speaks of, but has become glaringly obvious to those who study the WHY and HOW behind his posts.

But before I dive into giving you some ice cream, a little bit about myself…

27 years old. Was a wantrepreneur for a long time, but didn’t even know it. Yup, I ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Started a bunch of different businesses for all the wrong reasons so I ultimately failed at each one. A few years into it, I finally hit the bottom and got sick of the shit life I was living so I wrote into my journal and started reflecting. It went something like, “I’m tired of who I am. Tired of the life I’m living. Tired of seeing all my friends get ahead in their corporate job while I’m here trying to figure things out. Just sick of my life in general”. Bottom line, I was at my lowest point and the fire under my a$$ was burning so hot that I had no other choice but to take some dedicated immediate action to get real results…or risk being forever frustrated in the hamster wheel of the 9-5.

Studied zen*******’s posts very closely and began to read in between the lines of what he was saying. I wasn’t looking for business strategies. I wanted to know and understand the mindset behind the madman. Why was he doing X? How was he doing Y?

Started learning copy. I read some books and copied some sales letters by hand for a few months. My day looked something like this: Work the 9-5. Go home pissed as hell at my boss. Drink, write copy, drink, write copy, pass out drunk. Repeat for a long time until I got a good grasp of writing copy. I don’t recommend drinking to learn copy…ice cream seems to work pretty well too. Drinking is fun though…I’d rather burn as bright as a 1,000 watt bulb and burn out in 10-minutes than live life like a 10-watt bulb for the next 40 years.

Armed with my new knowledge of copy, I set forth to start a software business. While interviewing many different people in many different industries, I discovered a real need that couldn’t be solved online but could be taken care of offline…I prefer offline businesses anyway so I jumped into it head first. You can start an offline business faster because you don’t have to spend months on software development.

30 days later my sales were in the low 5-figure range. Let me tell you…when you go from making crap money and barely scraping to get by, to suddenly making 5-figures a month the feeling is sweeter than a gallon of ice cream.

That’s my story in a nutshell. I left out a lot of the details of the mental struggle: broken heart, angry parents, isolated friends, etc.

I will respectfully decline any requests to disclose what my business is. This forum was once a close knit group of homies, but with the success of MJ’s book there are now tons of new members and a few took the liberty of stealing from some of the greatest contributors here. The mindset is 80% of the game anyway and that’s what I’m trying to teach here.

On to the lessons…
This man said the mindset is 80% of the Game... and here my dumbass is thinking that 80% of the Game is just having the right idea... thank you IceCreamKid.
 

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sonny_1080

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Dude, are you alright? I'm really sorry to hear about your health issues. It's hard to stay on top of your game when you're not feeling like a 10 physically...it impacts everything else.

Weightlifting actually played a huge role in my business progress, but that's a story for another day. In the real world, I actually don't eat any snacks because they spike your insulin which cause you to feel tired and lethargic.

I read James Altucher's book too. I actually took huge issue with how he says you should come up with ideas. Walking around with a notepad and just noting down whatever comes to mind...meh, that didn't work for me. I really like his writing style though.

What worked for me was getting out there and talking to people. Pick up the phone. Face to face. Belly to belly.

Please read my 2nd post again. The one about loving the hell out of others. Make yourself truly present to others and get them to feel that you truly understand where they're coming from. They will tell you their greatest fears, hopes, and dreams...There lies the key that unlocks pandora's box. They will tell you their needs, pains, and struggles once they trust you and feel you understand them. You will become a better friend, lover, and businessperson. You cannot be selfish because this will blind you.

Shoot...didn't @MJ DeMarco 's million dollar idea come to him while he was just driving a passenger around in his limo?! MJ made himself present and truly listened to the guy! He didn't let his brain wander off thinking about the latest episode of The Bachelorette.

You don't need to come up with ideas. Make yourself present to others and the ideas will come to you. Don't push for ideas. Pull for them. How do you become present to others? Love them. Truly.

I'm telling you, there's a crazy spiritual side to business. That's what I'm trying to explain.

I truly wish you the best of health though. That's #1. Take care of yourself. Forget the ice cream, that leads to diabetes.

Gym. Tan. Laundry.
Mind. Blown.
 

SinisterKid

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@IceCreamKid You will be glad to know that some of us are taking action after reading your post, what?
6 years after you posted?

Please notice my username.
I recently made a new account just to make this name, SinisterKid.
Why?
Because SinisterLex, currently known as @Lex DeVille, and ICK have changed the way I look at entrepreneurship!

What have these two role models done for me?
Well, I'll try and boil it down for ya.

If you have Mindset Issues, then read this full thread!

If you Need an Idea, read ICK's thread on that (it's marked GOLD!)

Read Lex' 15-Day Copy Challenge NOW!!!
The perfect mixture of learning and Taking Action.


.. Since reading these threads I've finally
started taking Active Action. (See what I did there, Lex? ;))

ICK told me to contact 100 people in a niche and learn their pains and needs.
Lex got me to JUST DO ET.

Now I've scheduled meetings with personnel within my target niche.
Next week I'm going out to meet them, expand my network and
learn how I can help THEM. Not the other way around!

These guys and gals are thrilled to be meeting with me because
I've let them known that I will be meeting with them to
help THEM.

Hope this inspired some of ya'll stuck in Fear Mode.

Contact people and let them know you are there to help them.

Get that Ice Cream cuz DA ICE CREAM MAN IS COMIIIIIIIIIN'.
 

SinisterKid

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Update on Meetings and Phone Calls With My Niche

Just got off the phone with a "Development Officer" in my niche and
he invited me to come out and see their operations to
really learn about
their processes and potential pains/needs!

I was pretty nervous at first...
I have previously had jobs selling over the phone and
also in person, but I definitely have to get back in the
mode, haha.

My question-asking was a little rusty and I was saying
"uhmm" a lot.

No worries though!
That just means I have room to improve!
If you knew, that after 15 phone calls you would
discover a need or get a presale, how fast would you be
trying to call customers?? Pretty quickly, right?

I recorded the convo to study it and learn from my mistake
#MambaMentality <3

@IceCreamKid Am I doing this right?
What question would you be asking? (I feel like mine are very broad)

... To conclude.
I was scared.
I sucked.
I Got invited to see the operation.
I LEARNED.
I overcame a fear.

YOUR TURN :)


P.s, I hope it's okay I am using this thread to keep people posted.
I have found tremendous value in this thread and would love to see people
learning, failing and overcoming with me and I found this thread to very relevant.

If it's a problem just lmk and I'll make my own thread.
Anyways, thanks again ICK and LD :* <3
 

SinisterKid

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Oh man....

I'm getting a lot of rejections right now. Sprinkled with some flakey appointments.

I'm starting to have doubts.
Not about the process. I don't mind continuing to taking action like this, but am I doing something wrong?
Or should I just keep going through the motions?

My goal is to contact 100 people in my niche, but I need help convincing them that
I am literally contacting them to help out.

A lot of the people I get in contact with seem too proud to admit or see that their processes could be
optimized.
How can you help someone who doesn't want help?

Man...If anybody has any insight into this please help me out.
I make sure that the emails are about them and not about me.

Oh well, back to emailing.
Can't break my spirits!
 

SinisterKid

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BTW...
Just because I'm not updating ya'll doesn't mean I'm not working!

I'll make sure to get back when I have something relevant.

Right now it's interviewing my network for problems to solve.

Might've stumble upon something.
 

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thank you for this topic I intend to read the 32 pages, I am on page 2 and really thank you because I feel less alone in my entrepreneurial adventure which for the moment is fulfilling but does not give significant monetary results
 

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