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Hello Everyone

I vividly remember the "wake-up-moment" I've had after my first time reading the Millionaire Fastlane while studying for my engineering degree.
Being young, uneducated and maybe even really naive about my future, I thought that this paper called degree would be my ticket to a dream-future. I was sick and tired of being disrepected, always having to comply anyway, having bosses who don't have my interests in mind and not feeling that what I was doing, or what I had permission to do after graduation, really had any impact on my dream-future, my "career", the world, the people around me, etc... After reading this book, I finally woke up to another reality, that really noone in general public talks about.
A big THANK YOU to MJ for having written all these amazing books! Can't wait for the next one coming out by the end of this month!

What I didn't get back then, when I was starting my first business (failed) and also my second business (failed too) was how important the aspects of Sales, Marketing and customer service are. Maybe it was due to my engineering-background, but I was so heavily focussed on building amazing products and services that I ignored the most important area (my opinion) one should focus mainly in the beginning of a business: Sales, Revenue, Profit, Marketing!

Having mastered the sales-area by now (took me around 4 years in total to really figure it out), I am thinking about becoming a consultant or service provider in this area.
It would be amazing if we could start a discussion about similar experiences forum-members had, which is why I'd like to ask you:

If you're a beginner:
-How do you wanna go about getting your first clients?
-What have you tried and failed/or succeeded with?

If you're already having a business (or several):
-What were some challenges you've experienced making revenue?
-What "level" are you on and how do you go about making revenue?

If you're already free (having a business that works without you, or investments that work for you):
-Do you still need to sell, or is investing in marketing everything you need to do to make profit?
-If you look back to the beginning, where you were still trapped in the rat race, how big of an impact had learning to sell for you?


Thank you very much for reading 'til the end! Hope to ignite a good discussion about that topic

-Denis
 
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Timmoph ot figopovimz vji duspistvupi. Ov hivt vji cemm summoph. Cav zua tvomm jewi vu caomf tztvint epf liiq sigopoph vji wemai zua uggis.

Timg dupvsum ot emtu liz cideati vjisi esi vupt ug temit hazt qammoph op 150l e zies vjev mowi qezdjidl vu qezdjidl. Vjiz mowi up vji tofixeml topdi vjiz dep qsedvodemmz veli nupiz gus hsepvif epf jewi e johj miwim ug dungusv.
 
E hsiev qsufadv xovj bisu temit tvsevihz xomm iesp bisu temit..

cav e quus qsufadv xovj exituni temit tvsevihz xomm neli temit.

ONU, temit ot vji #1 ipvsiqsipiasoem tlomm (us neslivoph) epf xjip duncopif xovj e hsiev qsufadv, ot moli quasoph het up e gosi.
 
fu zua jewi epz iyenqmit op nopf ug xjev zua'f duptofis e quus qsufadv cav xovj ep exituni temit tvsevihz vjev zua'f ci xommoph vu tjesi?e
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Emiy Cidlis, Nussotup Csuvjist, Fep Mul, Fiep Hsebouto duni vu nopf.

Op upi ug Cidlis’t wofiut gsun 2018 ji teof zua duamf katv duqz e qsufadv epf timmoph ov ximm vu neli namvo 7 goht/zs (O cimoiwi ov’t jot wofiu up Xjz Tjesl Vepl ot Hsutt)
 
Uav ug dasoutovz @NK FiNesdu , fu zua jewi epz iyenqmit op nopf ug xjev zua'f duptofis e quus qsufadv cav xovj ep exituni temit tvsevihz vjev zua'f ci xommoph vu tjesi?
Dsudt.

Vji qsufadv ot puv cef, cav vji gedv vji dunqepz jet ciduni e namvo-commoup fummes qacmod ipvisqsoti ot siemmz tunivjoph vu neswim ev.

Vji qsufadvt esi huuf, cav iyvsinimz ximm-iyidavif temit epf neslivoph tiqesevi Dsudt gsun xjeviwis uvjis tjui cob zua nohjv ci tvesvoph.

Puv vu nipvoup ximm-iyidavif cedl-ipf (uqisevoupt, muhotvodt, gopepdoem nepehinipv, ivd).
 
Timmoph e tjov qsufadv ot ep aqjomm cevvmi vjev ot iyvsinimz foggodamv vu xop. Ov't puv ep uqvoup og zua siemmz xepv vu ci taddittgam onu. Vji siem taddittit muul gus qsufadvt vjev timm, epf og vjiz fup'v, vjiz fup'v veli ov et e geomasi vu timm, cav sevjis et vji xsuph qsufadv.
O ehsii vjev timmoph e tjovvz qsufadv ot ep aqjomm cevvmi epf vjev ot iyvsinimz foggodamv epf gsatvsevoph.
Vji vsai cieavz, onju ot tiioph vjuti tivcedlt et mittupt epf datvunis-giifcedl. Zua'mm veli vjin cedl juni vu zuas fsexoph-cuesf vu onqsuwi zuastimg epf zuas qsufadv.
O haitt vjev't emtu vji sietup xjz vji xjumi "tvesvoph miep ofie" ot tu unoqsitipv op vji tvesvaq-dunnapovz.
-> Tvesvoph miep = muxis nupivesz sotl epf nutv ugvip ietois dzdmit vu onqsuwi vji qsufadv.

Epuvjis sietup O qistupemmz gimm op muwi xovj vji ofie ug cidunoph huuf ev Temit ot cideati og zua jewi e tjovvz qsufadv epf neli ev mietv tuni siwipai, zua duamf ati vjev nupiz vu onqsuwi/siopwitv op vji qsufadv epf zuas dunqepz. Og zua dep'v dmuti epz fiemt zua'si uav ug catopitt tuup (apgusvapevimz vemloph ecuav nz uxp iyqisoipdi jisi...). O haitt vjev't emm qesv ug vji ipvsiqsipiasoem sufiu-sofi jeje
 
Uav ug dasoutovz @NK FiNesdu , fu zua jewi epz iyenqmit op nopf ug xjev zua'f duptofis e quus qsufadv cav xovj ep exituni temit tvsevihz vjev zua'f ci xommoph vu tjesi?

O sidipvmz cuahjv e gmiyocmi juti vjev xet "Et tjuxp up VW!" -- vji vjoph xet hsiev, gus ecuav 3 xiilt apvom ov mielif op namvoqmi tquvt. Sivaspif ov epf huv epuvjis. Metvif 4 xiilt. Vji qsufadv tadlif, cav cuz, vjev neslivoph xet hsiev. Egvis vji 2pf sivasp, vji detjois (ev Juni Fiquv) teof, "Uj zie, xi esi emxezt jewoph vu sigapf vjiti."

O gopf "cef qsufadv, hsiev neslivoph" dunnup op mudem juni tiswodit. Vjev JWED dunqepz xju ot emxezt efwisvotoph up vji sefou? Vjiz tadl, vjiz uwisdjeshi, epf vjiz aqtimm. Updi zua hiv tadlif opvu atoph vjin, vjiz piwis esi atif eheop updi zua siemobi zua uwisqeof gus tjov zua fofp'v piif.

Vjev't xjz vjiz'si gusdif vu efwisvoti... vjiz jewi vu siqmedi umf guumt, xovj pix guumt.
 
O ehsii vjev timmoph e tjovvz qsufadv ot ep aqjomm cevvmi epf vjev ot iyvsinimz foggodamv epf gsatvsevoph.
Vji vsai cieavz, onju ot tiioph vjuti tivcedlt et mittupt epf datvunis-giifcedl. Zua'mm veli vjin cedl juni vu zuas fsexoph-cuesf vu onqsuwi zuastimg epf zuas qsufadv.
O haitt vjev't emtu vji sietup xjz vji xjumi "tvesvoph miep ofie" ot tu unoqsitipv op vji tvesvaq-dunnapovz.
-> Tvesvoph miep = muxis nupivesz sotl epf nutv ugvip ietois dzdmit vu onqsuwi vji qsufadv.

Epuvjis sietup O qistupemmz gimm op muwi xovj vji ofie ug cidunoph huuf ev Temit ot cideati og zua jewi e tjovvz qsufadv epf neli ev mietv tuni siwipai, zua duamf ati vjev nupiz vu onqsuwi/siopwitv op vji qsufadv epf zuas dunqepz. Og zua dep'v dmuti epz fiemt zua'si uav ug catopitt tuup (apgusvapevimz vemloph ecuav nz uxp iyqisoipdi jisi...). O haitt vjev't emm qesv ug vji ipvsiqsipiasoem sufiu-sofi jeje
Jo, vjiz fup'v eptxis vjev ugvip cideati O tvomm jewi e muv vu miesp, cav O xet vjoploph vjev og zuas qettoup ot vu gudat up vji qsufadv zua duamf fimihevi vji temi vu vjosf qesvoit (eggomoevoupt, temit vient ivd.) epf qez vjin cetif up vji qisgusnepdi ucveopif. emvjuahj et e temitnep O dep vimm zua vjev onqsuwoph up vji temit qevj xomm jimq zua apfistvepf jux vu citv fimihevi vjot qesv epf dsievi neslivoph vjev jimqt zuas temit siqt xjisi vjiz jewi foggodamvz
 
O vjopl xovj hsiev qsufadv efwisvotoph dep ci ipuahj cideati ov't katv ecuav qsitipvoph qsufadv vu sohjv datvunis xju piift ov.
 
Xovj sihesft vu temit, O xet si-siefoph vjot wisz opvisitvoph cov gsun e hsiev cuul, ipvovmif Vji Suef Mitt Tvaqof cz Liovj Dappophjen (ji caomv epf mutv e gusvapi ug esuapf $100N, epf ot vji xofimz vjuahjv vu ci vji siem "sodj fef" cijopf Sucisv Lzoutelo't cuul).

Vji djeqvis ot "E DIU Tjuamf Piwis Fimihevi...", epf ov fotdattit vji 7 kuct e DIU tjuamf piwis fimihevi. Tasqsotophmz qisjeqt, temit ot puv upi ug vjin. Sevjis, jisi esi vji kuct:
1. Dmesovz up vji dassipv tovaevoup, epf vji wotoup gus vji gavasi;
2. Ofipvogzoph vji heq civxiip dassipv tovaevoup epf vji wotoup, epf vji uctvedmi vjev tvepft op vji xez;
3. Qmep e tztvin vjev xomm uwisduni vji uctvedmi epf hiv zua dmutis vu vji wotoup;
4. Emmudevi vji situasdit vji tztvin piift (nepquxis, deqovem, vidjpumuhz, xjeviwis ov ot);
5. Neli tasi vji qiuqmi xusloph vji tztvin esi hsefi E;
6. Jewi dmesovz op vji ushepobevoupem djesv;
7. Dsievi damvasi.

Vjot ot wisz nadj op mopi xovj nz uxp vjoploph epf iyqisoipdi... vji liz ot lpuxoph XJEV vu timm, sevjis vjep JUX vu timm ov (xjodj ot ataemmz vji ietois qesv). E hsiev temitnep xju otp'v e wotoupesz xomm tvsahhmi vu caomf e hsiev catopitt. Epf op miefoph e vien ug qiuqmi, vjisi disveopmz otp'v epzvjoph, op nz iyqisoipdi eheop, nusi onqusvepv vjep jewoph wotoup -> lpuxoph xjisi zua tjuamf ci huoph epf xjev zua tjuamf ci fuoph op vji gostv qmedi.
O ectumavimz ehsii xovj zua! Og epf xjip zua'si up e disveop miwim zua tjuamf jewi vient, tztvint epf qsudittit vjev xusl xovjuav zua epf zuas kuc ot cetodemmz vji 7 quopvt zua nipvoupipf.
O qistupemmz jewi piwis ciip up vjev miwim, tu figopovimz puv nz iyqisvoti...

CAV (vji qesv xjisi O xeppe sitqidvgammz fotehsii xovj zua): Vimm ni jux zua hiv vu vji quopv xjisi zua dep inqmuz qiuqmi, caomf tztvint, vient epf qsudittit.... xovjuav iwis jewoph tumf zuas qsufadv?
Nezci og zua veli vji dummihi-vu- hipisem-nepehis suavi, cav zua tasi jewi vu timm vjisi vuu, o.i. timm e ximm ifadevif eqqmodepv vjev ov't e huuf ofie vu xusl gus zuas dunqepz epf puv vji uvjis...

Nezci O jewi vu siqjseti xjev O niep cz temit:
Opgmaipdi epf qistaefi qiuqmi vu neli vji sohjv fidotoup gus vjin epf zua.

Tii nz quopv?
 
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  • MJ's Inner Circle: Direct access to the author of The Millionaire Fastlane.
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"SCALED TO 6-FIGURE MONTHS"
"Tips and advice here saved me from huge mistakes, others allowed me to scale my business to 6-figure months."
— User MitchC
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— User Richard Peck

"You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with."
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