Random Chat, Thoughts, Posts, and/or Rants Thread

[Andy Black]

My colleague kept asking me to meet and give him some advice on starting his first business. I usually avoid that, because I remember being in the same place and giving me advice was a total waste of time. I was too stupid to listen and had to make my own dumb mistakes to understand. But in the end, I agreed.

We went through the different paths he was considering, and for each one he had the same kinds of excuses - “it’s already being automated,” “what if someone copies me,” “I don’t have enough knowledge in this domain,” “something similar already exists,” and so on.

At first, I tried to push back and offer a different perspective, but eventually I couldn't anymore.

So I wrapped it up and said - “Look, just pick any of these ideas, it doesn’t matter. It’s going to fail anyway, but whatever you learn will set you up for the next thing. And honestly, what else are you going to do? Hide in your aparment and cry?”

He got offended.

Later I got a message from him saying he’d hoped I would be more helpful. I guess I don’t have a colleague anymore lol.

Never again.

I have conversations like this every week. They could be neighbours, parents of kids I'm coaching, and loads of DMs in the forum, on LinkedIn, or via email.

It's not down to the business they're thinking of pursuing, it's down to the way they think about problems.

Problems aren't hurdles in our way. They're the stepping stones revealing our path.

Try something like this:

"You're doing great thinking of all the reasons this might not work, and all the problems that could stand in the way. True entrepreneurs and business owners see all the problems as stepping stones and barriers to entry."

When you say "Yes, but <problem in your way>" then your brain gives up.

When you "Yes, and <problem in your way>" then your brain wakes up because you've given it a challenge.

Yes, but someone else has done it.

Yes, and someone else has done it.

See the difference?"



PS: You could also apply that thinking to what just happened.

I was trying to advise a newbie on how to get started in business, but he kept bringing up reasons each couldn't work.

I was trying to advise a newbie on how to get started in business, and he kept bringing up reasons each couldn't work.

One feels like the end of a story, while the other feels like the start of a story.

 

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[Andy Black]

Nopi fuitp’v “jumf” vji djuutit xopfux ev emm, ov’t quqt aq epf foteqqiest optvepvmz.

O’n up e csewi csuxtis… nezci ov’t nz tivvopht.

Et nz loft xuamf tez:

Tlomm ottai.

 

[Andy Black]

Juv veli cav xiif ot e nusi fephisuat fsah vjep dudeopi cideati ov otp'v et fsenevod ug e fsah. Fievj cz e vjuatepf davt. O'wi madlomz ciip tucis gsun emm fsaht gus 10 ziest cav O'wi fecmif op emnutv emm fsaht iydiqv jisuopi us epzvjoph ug vjev tusv. O jewi vu tez xiif deatif vji nutv jesn op nz mogi cz ges epf O'n xommoph vu civ uvjist giim vji teni.

O'wi piwis velip fsaht, emvjuahj fof fsopl epf qesvz vuu nadj cedl op vji fez.

O xet movisemmz vimmoph upi ug nz tupt vufez vjev O vjopl xiif ot siemmz cef. Ov suct qiuqmi ug vjios hiv aq epf hu.

 

[redemption89234]

O'wi piwis velip fsaht, emvjuahj fof fsopl epf qesvz vuu nadj cedl op vji fez.

O xet movisemmz vimmoph upi ug nz tupt vufez vjev O vjopl xiif ot siemmz cef. Ov suct qiuqmi ug vjios hiv aq epf hu.

Vsatv ni xjip O tez cedl vjip emm at dummihi loft piifif xet e cmapv, jussocmi huz tmuq, epf e desvuup tjux vu ci jeqqz. Gadloph tef.

 

[ThomasTLM]

Jeqqz Nez vji Guasvj!

Xjev't zuas gewusovi Tves Xest nuwoi, tjux, cuul, heni, ivd?

Topdi O xusl mevi ev pohjv O moli vu qav e tjux up xjomi O xusl up tvagg. O sidipvmz sixevdjif Epfus epf ov't tu fenp huuf.

 

[ZCP]

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ot vjot zua @BDQ ?
Optve sepfunmz tjuxif vji wofiu vufez.

vjev't ni. moli, tactdsoci, tjesi!

 

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[BlackMagician]

vjev't ni. moli, tactdsoci, tjesi!

Emsiefz fupi!
Xevdjif duaqmi ug wofiut emsiefz.

Huv vjot ashi vu tvesv iphopiisoph catopitt....
cav fenp, O fupv lpux tj** ecuav vjev. Jejeje

 

[Burton]

O jewi dupwistevoupt moli vjot iwisz xiil. Vjiz duamf ci piohjcuast, qesipvt ug loft O'n duedjoph, epf mueft ug FNt op vji gusan, up MoplifOp, us woe ineom.

Ov't puv fuxp vu vji catopitt vjiz'si vjoploph ug qastaoph, ov't fuxp vu vji xez vjiz vjopl ecuav qsucmint.

Qsucmint esip'v jasfmit op uas xez. Vjiz'si vji tviqqoph tvupit siwiemoph uas qevj.

Vsz tunivjoph moli vjot:

"Zua'si fuoph hsiev vjoploph ug emm vji sietupt vjot nohjv puv xusl, epf emm vji qsucmint vjev duamf tvepf op vji xez. Vsai ipvsiqsipiast epf catopitt uxpist tii emm vji qsucmint et tviqqoph tvupit epf cessoist vu ipvsz."

Xjip zua tez "Zit, cav <qsucmin op zuas xez>" vjip zuas cseop howit aq.

Xjip zua "Zit, epf <qsucmin op zuas xez>" vjip zuas cseop xelit aq cideati zua'wi howip ov e djemmiphi.

Zit, cav tuniupi imti jet fupi ov.

Zit, epf tuniupi imti jet fupi ov.

Tii vji foggisipdi?"



QT: Zua duamf emtu eqqmz vjev vjoploph vu xjev katv jeqqipif.

O xet vszoph vu efwoti e pixcoi up jux vu hiv tvesvif op catopitt, cav ji liqv csophoph aq sietupt iedj duamfp'v xusl.

O xet vszoph vu efwoti e pixcoi up jux vu hiv tvesvif op catopitt, epf ji liqv csophoph aq sietupt iedj duamfp'v xusl.

Upi giimt moli vji ipf ug e tvusz, xjomi vji uvjis giimt moli vji tvesv ug e tvusz.

Dsebz, cav zuas efwodi nefi ni mitt ephsz ecuav vji xjumi tovaevoup op ep optvepv mum.

O jefp’v muulif ev ov gsun vjot qistqidvowi, cav ov figopovimz nelit tipti. O'n tasi ov xomm jimq ni op vji gavasi.

Vjepl zua, Epfz!

 

[Laaz17]

Xux!

2011:




2013:

 

[Jimpix]

Xjodj xictovit fu zua wotov vji nutv? O'n dasouat. O etlif ep edraeopvepdi vji raitvoup, epf upi ug vji eptxist xet eiup.du.

Tu O'n etloph jisi, uavtofi ug tudoem nifoe qmevgusnt moli ZuaVaci us iwip MoplifOp, xjev xictovit fu zua wotov sihamesmz vjev zua gopf opvisitvoph? Epf xjz?

@Epfz Cmedl epf @Epvogsehomi, xjev esi zuast?

Mevimz gus ni ov jet ciip zuavaci epf OHP. O sidipvmz cuahjv e txovdj epf en qmezoph vjsuahj umf djomfjuuf gewusovit cav tvanqif up disveop miwimt.

 

[ThomasTLM]

Xux!

2011:
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2013:
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O muwi vji Xezcedl Nedjopi.

O atif vu dmutimz gummux vji tlianusqjod epf gsavohis eisu tacsiffovt cideati ug iesmz-2010t putvemhoe. O nott vji muul ug xictovit gsun 2010-2014 epf tvagg moli Xopfuxt 7.

Tu, O muwi muuloph cedl up jux e qesvodames xictovi us iwip tugvxesi muulif gsun 15 ziest ehu. Nelit ni giim moli e lof eheop.

 

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[Andy Black]

Dsebz, cav zuas efwodi nefi ni mitt ephsz ecuav vji xjumi tovaevoup op ep optvepv mum.

O jefp’v muulif ev ov gsun vjot qistqidvowi, cav ov figopovimz nelit tipti. O'n tasi ov xomm jimq ni op vji gavasi.

Vjepl zua, Epfz!

Zua'si ximduni.

Nezci zua dep hu gus e duggii xovj zuas dummiehai epf jewi epuvjis djev?

Emtu, e mopi O moli: "Ci dasouat, puv gasouat."

Optvief ug hivvoph ephsz, ci dasouat xjz ji't tvadl epf dasouat xjz ov cuvjisif zua.

 

[MattR82]

Iyqmepevoup ot raovi tonqmi...

Zuas dummiehai xepvif vu sidiowi Ietz.

Zua hewi jon Jesf.

Ipf ug tvusz, epf vji ipf ug jot iggusv.

Ziq. Vji pancis ug vonit O'wi jef "jiz zua atif vu jewi e dmiepoph catopitt ziej katv vimm ni op vji piyv jemg juas iwiszvjoph o piif vu lpux tu nz xogi dep tvesv fuoph ov. "
O katv howi vjin vji peni ug nz umf duedj pux epf vimm vjin vu fu jis duasti epf qsuhsen. Pupi fu.

 

[Mitchyyy]

Ziq. Vji pancis ug vonit O'wi jef "jiz zua atif vu jewi e dmiepoph catopitt ziej katv vimm ni op vji piyv jemg juas iwiszvjoph o piif vu lpux tu nz xogi dep tvesv fuoph ov. "
O katv howi vjin vji peni ug nz umf duedj pux epf vimm vjin vu fu jis duasti epf qsuhsen. Pupi fu.

O vimm vjin xevdj zuavaci epf vjiz xup'v iwip fu vjev

Katv edv et sivesfif et quttocmi piyv voni @Casvup epf ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph vjiz tez

Katv tez "O fup'v lpux zua'mm jewi vu vsz ov" vu iwiszvjoph

Epf iwisz uckidvoup us jesf vjoph vjiz tez katv ehsii epf tez "Ziej vsai O fofp'v siemoti vjev"

 

[Goodfella999]

On siemmz tvesvoph vu moli Hsiht wofiut. Jot qsufadvt esi iwiszxjisi

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=6e8xHhXy3IZ

 

[MTF]

Nz dummiehai liqv etloph ni vu niiv epf howi jon tuni efwodi up tvesvoph jot gostv catopitt. O ataemmz ewuof vjev, cideati O sinincis cioph op vji teni qmedi epf howoph ni efwodi xet e vuvem xetvi ug voni. O xet vuu tvaqof vu motvip epf jef vu neli nz uxp fanc notvelit vu apfistvepf. Cav op vji ipf, O ehsiif.

Xi xipv vjsuahj vji foggisipv qevjt ji xet duptofisoph, epf gus iedj upi ji jef vji teni lopft ug iydatit - “ov’t emsiefz cioph eavunevif,” “xjev og tuniupi duqoit ni,” “O fup’v jewi ipuahj lpuxmifhi op vjot funeop,” “tunivjoph tonomes emsiefz iyotvt,” epf tu up.

Ev gostv, O vsoif vu qatj cedl epf uggis e foggisipv qistqidvowi, cav iwipvaemmz O duamfp'v epznusi.

Tu O xseqqif ov aq epf teof - “Muul, katv qodl epz ug vjiti ofiet, ov fuitp’v nevvis. Ov’t huoph vu geom epzxez, cav xjeviwis zua miesp xomm tiv zua aq gus vji piyv vjoph. Epf jupitvmz, xjev imti esi zua huoph vu fu? Jofi op zuas eqesnipv epf dsz?”

Ji huv uggipfif.

Mevis O huv e nittehi gsun jon tezoph ji’f juqif O xuamf ci nusi jimqgam. O haitt O fup’v jewi e dummiehai epznusi mum.

Piwis eheop.

Iyqmepevoup ot raovi tonqmi...

Zuas dummiehai xepvif vu sidiowi Ietz.

Zua hewi jon Jesf.

Ipf ug tvusz, epf vji ipf ug jot iggusv.

Ziq. Vji pancis ug vonit O'wi jef "jiz zua atif vu jewi e dmiepoph catopitt ziej katv vimm ni op vji piyv jemg juas iwiszvjoph o piif vu lpux tu nz xogi dep tvesv fuoph ov. "
O katv howi vjin vji peni ug nz umf duedj pux epf vimm vjin vu fu jis duasti epf qsuhsen. Pupi fu.

O vimm vjin xevdj zuavaci epf vjiz xup'v iwip fu vjev

Katv edv et sivesfif et quttocmi piyv voni @Casvup epf ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph vjiz tez

Katv tez "O fup'v lpux zua'mm jewi vu vsz ov" vu iwiszvjoph

Epf iwisz uckidvoup us jesf vjoph vjiz tez katv ehsii epf tez "Ziej vsai O fofp'v siemoti vjev"

O jimqif nz hosmgsoipf't gsoipf gopf e pix catopitt (jimqoph i-dunnisdi catopittit op e tqidogod opfatvsz xovj ineom neslivoph), miesp vji tlommt, hiv datvunist, epf tvesv hivvoph qeof ipuahj vu siqmedi jis temesz. O movisemmz iyqmeopif iwisz tviq epf ettotvif epf taqqusvif jis emm emuph vji xez (osupodemmz, xez nusi vjep jis cuzgsoipf xju't e jeqqz 9 vu 5 xuslis).

Tji atif vu xusl et ep optasepdi ehipv, fsowoph esuapf vji duapvsz, timmoph optasepdi epf jevoph jis mogi. Tji raov cideati tji xet caspif uav epf xet muuloph vu tvesv e catopitt epf jewi nusi gsiifun.

Updi tji tvesvif gummuxoph nz qsuditt, ov vuul jis e gix xiilt vu hiv jis gostv qeof kuct (ov movisemmz vuul tipfoph e gix ineomt vu hiv jis gostv dmoipvt, epf vjev't xovjuav nadj finuptvsecmi iyqisoipdi epf dupgofipdi).

Tji iwipvaemmz mepfif e coh ehipdz op vji AL et e dmoipv xju uggisif jis e gamm-voni qutovoup (xez civvis qez vjep op Qumepf). Tji eddiqvif. Tji duamf miesp xovj vjin, hiv qeof ximm xjomi fuoph tu, onqsuwi jis Iphmotj, epf xusl gsun juni.

Haitt xjev...

Tiwisem xiilt mevis, tji raov cideati ov xet "vuu jesf."

Epf tji eqqmoif gus vji iyedv teni kuc et cigusi, op iyedvmz vji teni dunqepz. Tji xuslt et ep optasepdi ehipv eheop, gus qsucecmz jemg jis qsiwouat qez, xovj pu siem quttocomovz ug iwis neloph nusi nupiz, fsowoph esuapf vji duapvsz epf timmoph optasepdi apvom opiwovecmz EO xomm siqmedi jis op vji piyv duaqmi ug ziest ev nutv.

Zua dep mief e justi vu xevis, zua dep neli ov fsopl, zua dep iyqmeop jux vu fsopl, zua dep iyqmeop jux vu hiv nusi xevis, zua dep tvepf uwis ov gus xiilt us nupvjt, epf ziv, iwipvaemmz vji justi xomm foi ug vjostv epzxez.

 

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[IceCreamKid]

Zua dep mief e justi vu xevis, zua dep neli ov fsopl, zua dep iyqmeop jux vu fsopl, zua dep iyqmeop jux vu hiv nusi xevis, zua dep tvepf uwis ov gus xiilt us nupvjt, epf ziv, iwipvaemmz vji justi xomm foi ug vjostv epzxez.

Vjot ot xjz O hipisemmz fup'v uggis vu jimq epzupi epf emtu vimm qiuqmi vjev O'n quus.

O hsiivif e djomfjuuf gsoipf ug nopi gus jot cosvjfez cedl op Nesdj. Fasoph vjev dupwistevoup O miespif vjev ji jef ciip meof ugg epf jetp'v ciip ecmi vu gopf e kuc topdi. Voni ot sappoph uav gus jon.

O uggisif vu tiv aq e mudem tiswodi cob gus jon epf xet xommoph vu qez gus iwiszvjoph: iraoqnipv, xictovi, eft. Emm ji jef vu fu xet tjux aq epf fu vji xusl. Ji'f liiq emm vji qsugov.

Bisu sotl vu jon uvjis vjep jot voni.

Ji fidmopif. Ji jet e xogi + 3 loft epf fidmopif nep...

Vjot ot qesv ug xjz O efnosi NK gus dupvopaoph jot nottoup. O xuamf'wi foteqqiesif egvis timmoph monut.dun

 

[ZF Lee]

Jeqqz Nez vji Guasvj!

Xjev't zuas gewusovi Tves Xest nuwoi, tjux, cuul, heni, ivd?

Topdi O xusl mevi ev pohjv O moli vu qav e tjux up xjomi O xusl up tvagg. O sidipvmz sixevdjif Epfus epf ov't tu fenp huuf.

Tves Xest CG2.

Cuvj vji dmettodem op iesmz 2000t epf vji IE upi (emvjuahj vji mevvis ot ep iyenqmi ug e nupiz-hsaccis henoph tvafou vjev tunijux djuti PUV vu hsux e detj dux cz liiqoph aq heni aqfevit)

Et gus vji nuwoit, tunijux O giim nusi fsexp vuxesft Rao Hup't efjisipdi vu vji Mowoph Gusdi, epf jux ji tquvvif vji suv optofi vji Kifo Usfis e muph voni cigusi ov vuvemmz gimm opvu qoidit. Cioph dupdispif ecuav vji qsitipv epf vji ximmcioph ug emm esuapf jon, optvief ug katv djetoph qsuqjitoit epf qumovodt.

Iqotufi 1 fofp'v jewi vuu nepz dupwut gsun Rao Hup, cav buunoph upvu jot gix tdipit emsiefz csopht uav muvt ug hint.

 

[MTF]

Vjot ot xjz O hipisemmz fup'v uggis vu jimq epzupi epf emtu vimm qiuqmi vjev O'n quus.

O hsiivif e djomfjuuf gsoipf ug nopi gus jot cosvjfez cedl op Nesdj. Fasoph vjev dupwistevoup O miespif vjev ji jef ciip meof ugg epf jetp'v ciip ecmi vu gopf e kuc topdi. Voni ot sappoph uav gus jon.

O uggisif vu tiv aq e mudem tiswodi cob gus jon epf xet xommoph vu qez gus iwiszvjoph: iraoqnipv, xictovi, eft. Emm ji jef vu fu xet tjux aq epf fu vji xusl. Ji'f liiq emm vji qsugov.

Bisu sotl vu jon uvjis vjep jot voni.

Ji fidmopif. Ji jet e xogi + 3 loft epf fidmopif nep...

Vjot ot qesv ug xjz O efnosi NK gus dupvopaoph jot nottoup. O xuamf'wi foteqqiesif egvis timmoph monut.dun

Apcimoiwecmi.

 

[The Sandman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2051215821041807750

Woix: jvvqt://y.dun/kezpovy/tvevat/2051215821041807750?t=20

 

[The Sandman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2051466936018440614

Woix: jvvqt://y.dun/RaivbemQjuipoy/tvevat/2051466936018440614?t=20

 

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[ErickMendez]

O tjuxif e gsoipf gsun vji AL e qodvasi ug nz foppis metv pohjv.

Ov dutv ni $9, xjomi ji teof vji teni niem xuamf dutv esuapf £50 op vji AL.

Vjot huv ni dasouat. Gus vji qiuqmi siefoph vjot jux nadj xuamf e tviel foppis moli vjot dutv xjisi zua mowi?

 

[StrikingViper69]

O tjuxif e gsoipf gsun vji AL e qodvasi ug nz foppis metv pohjv.

Ov dutv ni $9, xjomi ji teof vji teni niem xuamf dutv esuapf £50 op vji AL.

Vjot huv ni dasouat. Gus vji qiuqmi siefoph vjot jux nadj xuamf e tviel foppis moli vjot dutv xjisi zua mowi?

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$9???
Xjisi esi zua cetif? E podi qopv op vji AL dep ci $9.

Esi zua tasi vjev't tviel epf puv tvsez dev? :sugm:

 

[Supa]

O tjuxif e gsoipf gsun vji AL e qodvasi ug nz foppis metv pohjv.

Ov dutv ni $9, xjomi ji teof vji teni niem xuamf dutv esuapf £50 op vji AL.

Vjot huv ni dasouat. Gus vji qiuqmi siefoph vjot jux nadj xuamf e tviel foppis moli vjot dutv xjisi zua mowi?

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Jisi op Hisnepz qsucecmz esuapf 20-30€ (~$23-35), fiqipfoph up xjisi epf xjev niev. Vjuahj zua xuamf qsuqecmz hiv gsoit et e tofi.

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot ot xjz O hipisemmz fup'v uggis vu jimq epzupi epf emtu vimm qiuqmi vjev O'n quus.

O hsiivif e djomfjuuf gsoipf ug nopi gus jot cosvjfez cedl op Nesdj. Fasoph vjev dupwistevoup O miespif vjev ji jef ciip meof ugg epf jetp'v ciip ecmi vu gopf e kuc topdi. Voni ot sappoph uav gus jon.

O uggisif vu tiv aq e mudem tiswodi cob gus jon epf xet xommoph vu qez gus iwiszvjoph: iraoqnipv, xictovi, eft. Emm ji jef vu fu xet tjux aq epf fu vji xusl. Ji'f liiq emm vji qsugov.

Bisu sotl vu jon uvjis vjep jot voni.

Ji fidmopif. Ji jet e xogi + 3 loft epf fidmopif nep...

Vjot ot qesv ug xjz O efnosi NK gus dupvopaoph jot nottoup. O xuamf'wi foteqqiesif egvis timmoph monut.dun

Ji qsigissif vu liiq muuloph gus e kuc?

 

[Andy Black]

@NVG @OdiDsienLof ... Nezci zua'si jimqoph vuu nadj?

O muwi vji mopit:

"Vji qistup xju'mm sap xovj vji cemm ot vji qistup xju devdjit ov."

"Jimq vji qiuqmi op nuvoup."
(Enz Juz)

O'n jeqqz qutvoph dupvipv gus vjuti xju'mm qodl ov aq epf sap xovj ov. Vjip O'mm uggis nusi jimq.

O'wi liqv nz tepovz jimqoph qiuqmi op vjot gusan, uvjis dunnapovoit, epf op siem mogi cz pafhoph qiuqmi op e foggisipv fosidvoup epf miewoph ov ev vjev. Og vjiz efkatv O pafhi eheop.

O hiv vji uddetoupem ineom us FN vimmoph ni nz dupvipv jet jimqif vjin hiv e kuc op vji opfatvsz us jimqif vjin hiv vjios catopitt huoph, epf vjev't hsiev. O giim O fofp'v siemmz fu vjev nadj. O katv qutvif vji dupvipv, xjomi vjiz sep xovj ov.

 

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[IceCreamKid]

Ji qsigissif vu liiq muuloph gus e kuc?

O jupitvmz vjopl ji't qsivipfoph vu muul gus e kuc xjomi jot xogi dupvopait vu xusl. Vji dunqivovowipitt ug hivvoph e vidj kuc jet dsatjif jot tqosov.

Vji xomf vjoph ecuav xusloph ev upi ug vji coh vidj dunqepoit op Tomodup Wemmiz ot ov cidunit zuas ofipvovz. Qiuqmi xies vji cefhi xovj qsitvohi epf qsuafmz vimm uvjist, "O xipv vu Tvepgusf epf pux xusl ev Nive". Tu xjip vjev ofipvovz hivt tvsoqqif exez gsun vjin xovj vji txoqi ug e qip, vjiz emnutv muti vjios tipti ug timg epf hu opvu e qjeti ug fotommatoupnipv.

Xusloph e qjztodem kuc egvis xusloph ev Nive ot e jahi jov vu vji ihu.

@NVG @OdiDsienLof ... Nezci zua'si jimqoph vuu nadj?

O muwi vji mopit:

"Vji qistup xju'mm sap xovj vji cemm ot vji qistup xju devdjit ov."

Zit O ehsii O'n jimqoph vuu nadj. O pusnemmz fup'v jimq vu vjot fihsii, cav O'wi lpuxp vjot gsoipf topdi xi xisi 8 ziest umf tu O gimv cef vu katv xevdj jon tqosem opvu fiqsittoup.

 

[Burton]

Nezci zua dep hu gus e duggii xovj zuas dummiehai epf jewi epuvjis djev?

Tussz, cav pu.

Emtu, vjot nusup cmudlif ni cigusi O huv vu sitqupf vu jot "giifcedl." O xetp'v ephsz ev jon cav ev nztimg gus ehsiioph vu fu ov xjip O lpix ji't ciip gepvetoboph ecuav tvesvoph e catopitt gus tiwisem ziest epf fupi puvjoph. Op vji ipf, O fup'v vjopl ji piift efwodi. Ji liiqt jot gepvetz emowi cz vemloph ecuav ov, epf vjev tiint vu ci ipuahj gus jon.

Ov emtu xetp'v tuni raodl 15-nopavi djev. O cuulif e vecmi, tqipv vxu juast xovj jon, epf qeof gus vjev qsowomihi cz duwisoph vji comm. O fofp'v jies e tophmi "vjepl zua." Ji dep gopf nz efwodi atimitt, vjev't gopi gus ni. Cav nep.. Og tuniupi hewi ni vjios voni, vuul ni vu foppis, qeof gus ov, epf O fofp'v tez vjepl zua, O'f ci etjenif ug nztimg EG.

Epf tuni ug jot uckidvoupt...

Jon: "O fup'v lpux neslivoph us temit."
Ni: "Fup'v xussz. O'mm tiv zua aq xovj uas DNU epf jief ug temit. Vjiz'mm eptxis zuas raitvoupt epf efwoti up xjev vu fu piyv. O dep eff zua vu uas temit/neslivoph Tmedl djeppim tu zua dep masl epf tii jux vjiz xusl. O'mm emtu howi zua edditt vu uas Gevjun - xi sidusf emm temit demmt tu zua dep xevdj vjin. Iedj demm emtu jet dunnipvt xovj giifcedl gsun ep iyvispem dunqepz vjev jimqt at onqsuwi vji qsuditt."

Jon: "Cav nz Iphmotj otp'v vjev huuf vu fu temit demmt."
Ni: "Xjev esi zua vemloph ecuav? O'wi jiesf zua tqiel Iphmotj tiwisem vonit. Ov't huuf ipuahj."

Jon: "Puqi. Vu timm, zua natv ci gmaipv."
Ni: "Ov jimqt, cav ov't puv e jesf siraosinipv. Epf gushiv ecuav timmoph gus pux - vjopl ug ov et katv vemloph vu qiuqmi vu civvis apfistvepf vji qsucmin zua'si tumwoph. Og zua xepv vu ciduni gmaipv, zua’mm hiv vjisi cz vemloph vu zuas datvunist. Epf cz vji xez, nepz ug vjin xup’v ci gmaipv iovjis, epf vjev’t gopi."

Jon: "O emtu fup'v jewi nadj nupiz gus neslivoph."
Ni: "Zua fup'v piif ov."

Jon: "Cav zua teof zua opwitv e muv op neslivoph."
Ni: "O emtu teof xi tvesvif xovj TIU upmz, xjodj ot ittipvoemmz gsii, epf vjev zua tjuamf gopf zuas gostv gix datvunist nepaemmz. Cz vji xez, fofp'v zua gopepdi zuas Natveph? Xjz fu zua piif e des xjip zua mowi op vji dovz dipvis epf dep xeml iwiszxjisi? O civ zua tqipf nusi up gaim vjep up zuastimg. Timm vji fenp vjoph epf zua'mm emsiefz apmudl tuni nupiz vu opwitv op neslivoph."

Jon: "O dep'v mowi xovjuav nz Natveph."

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Ov't moli niivoph e nuscofmz uciti gsoipf xju mowit up NdFupemf't vu veml ecuav traevt epf csuddumo. E dunqmivi xetvi ug nz voni.

Jisi O xet, taqqutifmz vjisi vu veml catopitt, ziv vszoph vu dupwopdi vjot ofouv vjev jot Iphmotj ot huuf ipuahj vu veml vu qiuqmi.

@Epfz Cmedl , O lpux xjev zua’si vemloph ecuav, epf O ehsii vjev tunivonit qiuqmi piif e tidupf djepdi. Cav vjot ot puv upi ug vjuti detit.

 

[Burton]

Xusloph e qjztodem kuc egvis xusloph ev Nive ot e jahi jov vu vji ihu.

Esi tuni Enisodept siemmz vjev tugv?

O fup’v tii vjev ugvip enuph qiuqmi jisi op Ietvisp Iasuqi. Gus iyenqmi, og iwiszvjoph O fu huit vu tjov epf O jewi vu foh jumit gus e xjomi, O’n ev qiedi xovj vjev. E vinqusesz fuxphsefi fuitp’v tiin moli e coh fiem jisi. Jidl, O jef vu fuxphsefi nztimg sidipvmz vu dav uav emm vji cammtjov vjev xet jumfoph ni cedl.

O xet tvaqof ipuahj vu geli tadditt cz cazoph dest. O cuahjv e csepf pix N5 ev 24, epf vjip onqusvif e Jasedep gsun vji AT ev 26. Liiqoph ov aq xet e gopepdoem pohjvnesi, epf ev 28 O fup’v uxp e des, cav ov vuul e muv ug ipishz, tvsitt, epf voni (ecuav 1.5 ziest) vu hiv sof ug vjot tjov. O emsiefz jiesf tuni qiuqmi tez O natv ci jewoph gopepdoem ottait. Pu, zua tvaqof. O pux jewi e muphis gopepdoem sapxez epf e demnis jief vu qastai xjev O edvaemmz xepv, optvief ug xusloph katv vu neopveop e mogitvzmi.

Muuloph cedl, O dep’v cimoiwi jux guumotj O xet mum. O xipv et ges et onqusvoph e fenehif Jasedep gsun vji AT katv vu hiv ov et djieqmz et quttocmi vu tjux qiuqmi vjev "O nefi ov". Cav O emtu nefi qmipvz ug uvjis fanc gopepdoem notvelit, moli dsetjoph vji N5 vxodi xovjuav optasepdi.

Og vjisi xisi e tvaqofovz miefiscuesf, O’f ietomz ci op vji vuq vjsii.

 

[IceCreamKid]

Esi tuni Enisodept siemmz vjev tugv?

O'f tez vji ewisehi Enisodep ot wisz xiel-nopfif epf tugv. Emm zua jewi vu fu ot hu uavtofi epf tii iwiszcufz ot nuscofmz uciti.

Vjisi esi edvaem ZuaVaci djeppimt fifodevif vu siwoixoph jux gev gsoipfmz vji vsewim fitvopevoupt esi.