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POLL: Side effects from recent vaxcination? Or none?

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What is your VAX status and the outcome?

  • Got VAXed, no side effects whatsoever.

    Votes: 54 20.7%
  • Got VAXed, minimal side effects, I'm good now.

    Votes: 67 25.7%
  • Got VAXed, experiencing concerning side effects

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Got VAXed, experiencing bad side effects

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Got VAXed, eperiencing new health issues, not sure if related to VAX

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Not VAXed, but plan to eventually (0-3 months)

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Not VAXed, but plan to eventually (3-12 months)

    Votes: 5 1.9%
  • Not VAXed, but plan to eventually (1 year +)

    Votes: 6 2.3%
  • Not VAXed, don't plan on it.

    Votes: 120 46.0%

  • Total voters
    261

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<div class="bbWrapper">Isn’t this a business forum? I’m surprised MJ lets this thread continue. If it was anyone other than Fox it would’ve been closed by now lol<br /> <br /> Can’t take anyone that calls the vaccine a “jab” seriously.<br /> <br /> Anyways, If I didn’t know any better, I’d think this was a post meant to sow doubt in people about taking the vaccine; or merely to cause a disruption in the forum. I don’t know why you would want to ask a forum of entrepreneurs about this, go ask your doctors lol<br /> <br /> And just to be clear, I had COVID last year and experienced many of the symptoms Op is describing! They lasted for months after the onset of my first illness. (Inflammation, costochondritis, etc)<br /> <br /> I got the Pfizer “jab” (both doses” a few months ago and I feel fantastic!! The second one left me a bit sluggish but I easily recovered! I’m in the best shape ever.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="7rbGTefVvWU"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7rbGTefVvWU?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://youtu.be/7rbGTefVvWU" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">View: https://youtu.be/7rbGTefVvWU</a></span></i><br /></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33006" data-quote="TonyStark" data-source="post: 961199" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961199" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961199">TonyStark said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Can’t take anyone that calls the VAXClNE a “jab” seriously. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You&#039;re right, I changed the title. &quot;Jab&quot; implies a particular agenda.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33006" data-quote="TonyStark" data-source="post: 961199" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961199" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961199">TonyStark said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I’m surprised MJ lets this thread continue. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yes, if this post was on Facebook, it would have already been censored and banned.<br /> <br /> We can&#039;t have any information get out there that doesn&#039;t support the approved narrative, right? This thread belongs in the &quot;Off Topic&quot; forum but since the tech overlords penalize any platform for questioning the approved narrative, it sits in the Speedway (which is private).<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 39527" data-quote="Simon Angel" data-source="post: 961192" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961192" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961192">Simon Angel said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This might be it. Vitamin D </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I doubt it, the person lives in a place that gets an enormous amount of sun.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33006" data-quote="TonyStark" data-source="post: 961199" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961199" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961199">TonyStark said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If it was anyone other than Fox it would’ve been closed by now lol </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;m aware of who the &quot;anonymous&quot; person is, I know him, met him at the Summit, and consider him a friend. Sorry the anecdotal evidence he offers doesn&#039;t match the headlines from the NYT.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33006" data-quote="TonyStark" data-source="post: 961199" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961199" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961199">TonyStark said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> go ask your doctors lol </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> For the Nth time, <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/26815/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="26815" data-username="@GIlman">@GIlman</a> is a doctor who has studied this extensively. Of course, CNN hasn&#039;t approved him, so I know his <b>unpaid professional medical opinion</b> doesn&#039;t matter when compared to the <b>paid unprofessional opinions</b> of Don Lemon and Jimmy Kimmel. <br /> <br /> Nonetheless, thank you for sharing your positive experience with the vaxcine. <br /> <br /> My step-son got it as well (it was mandatory for college) but showed no adverse effects.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33771" data-quote="Fox" data-source="post: 960938" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=960938" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-960938">Fox said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> About 4 and a half months ago, I randomly had really bad shortness of breath and tightness in my chest (about 2 weeks after my first dose of the shot), the first thing doctors thought was a heart attack (I’m in my early 30s so wasn’t too worried about that). They told me I had to go to the emergency room and since then, I’ve gotten the following workup: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hey OP&#039;s friend, I&#039;m sorry to hear you&#039;re dealing with these negative side-effects. My husband is a first responder &amp; he and the medical staff at local hospitals have absolutely seen an uptick in young men having heart attacks (many dying, &amp; we&#039;re talking 20&#039;s &amp; 30&#039;s, unfortunately) following their vaccines. It&#039;s not in your head &amp; I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re dealing with it. Also, I&#039;m glad you&#039;re still here.<br /> <br /> As you &amp; others have noted, it seems to be related to an inflammatory response in the vascular system -unfortunately, this is all so new (and so much of it is being denied as even occurring) that it&#039;s slowing the research/insight into what&#039;s causing the negative inflammatory side effects. Everyone is making their best guesses at this point. <br /> <br /> As others have mentioned, cut foods that are known to cause inflammation: grains, dairy, seed/industrial oils, processed foods, etc<br /> <br /> You can also add some things that help your body further downregulate the inflammation response: for me, a HUGE help has been celery juice. I know it sounds cliche, but it&#039;s helped my inflammation incredibly these past 18 months. And I saw dramatic results in the first 30 days, so much so that I&#039;m still taking it a year &amp; a half later. Start slow if you decide to try it, it can clean you out.<br /> <br /> I use a two-pronged approach:<br /> <br /> 1. remove the agitators (food/drinks/products that cause an inflammatory response)<br /> 2. add calming agents (for me, celery juice, whole foods, mineral water)<br /> <br /> If you haven&#039;t already, you can add zinc &amp; magnesium to your supplementation, as well as Vitamin C (from a non-corn based source -and they&#039;re ALL corn-based unless stated otherwise) to help your immune system regulate. <br /> <br /> I&#039;m also curious if your doctor ordered testing for C-reactive protein (a very basic &amp; telling inflammatory marker). Remember, if you&#039;re in a direct testing state (like Arizona) you can order your own bloodwork yourself by walking into damn near any lab. (insurance won&#039;t pay for it, but the rates are actually pretty reasonable on most tests here at many labs -the most I&#039;ve ever had to wait in line was 5 min, direct testing is awesome)<br /> <br /> As someone who has had mystery health challenges almost all my life (yet waltzed through covid when the hubs brought it home), I know what it&#039;s like to be told it&#039;s all on your head. No the F*ck it&#039;s not. You know you &amp; your body better than anyone. I hope you&#039;re able to find some relief.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 961265" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961265" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961265">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I doubt it, the person lives in a place that gets an enormous amount of sun. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I also live where amount of sun is huge MJ, but because my D3 level went so low that my body was not even absorbing from sun. I took D3 test, and test started taking medicine.<br /> I am not a doctor nor i know anything about medical thing. Its just that, what OP showed symptoms, i went through the same that&#039;s why shared my points.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Natural stuff that you can pile up in your life to gain health:</b><br /> <br /> (everything in this post is just food actually).<br /> <br /> * <b>Orange juice</b> glass - with (30 min soaked) chia seeds- . Acording to this us govt website to track nutrition (<a href="http://www.cronometer.com" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="noopener">www.cronometer.com</a>) , It Fills you with Vitamin C, Vitamin K, Omega 3, Calcium, Iron and + all at the same time.<br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/attachments/chia-webp.39717/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/data/attachments/36/36347-b3fb16db871dbf508fc9f6863f788aa8.jpg?hash=2IQQHbYxgz" class="bbImage " style="" alt="chia.webp" title="chia.webp" width="356" height="200" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> <br /> It&#039;s just 30 grams of chia and the juice from 3 oranges.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 15 minutes <b>Sun</b> every day .<br /> <br /> *<b>Zink </b>supplement.<br /> <br /> * <b>CBD oil. </b><br /> <br /> <b> *Magnesium suplement.</b><br /> <br /> <br /> * 1/2 Tea spoon of <b>curcumin</b> with 1/4 tea spoon of <b>black pepper</b>. This is highly anti inflammatory.<br /> <br /> * <b>Zeolites</b> (to clean heavy metals)<br /> *<b>Chlorella Algae</b> (same as above)<br /> * <b>Kelp Algae </b>( protects the thyroid , just 1/8 tea spoon a day)<br /> <br /> * <b>Stevia Rebaudiana</b> (its a plant used as sweetener with great medicinal properties)<br /> <br /> *<b>Sea water</b>... yes, actual salt from the oceans has important minerals , that&#039;s where life originated. Buy non processed sea salt and just mix 1 tea spoon it with some water and lemon juice in a glass in the morning.<br /> <br /> <b>* Meditation </b><br /> <br /> This won&#039;t undo the spike protein works but the chlorella and zeolites would clean heavy metals. I&#039;d be surprised if you don&#039;t get SOME improvement with all of that. And again, is just food...<br /> <br /> 100% agree with Bekit&#039;s post. C Dioxide has worked wonders for me since 2018 when I first tried it. Def would recommend a friend.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 58553" data-quote="BlackMagician" data-source="post: 961277" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961277" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961277">BlackMagician said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I also live where amount of sun is huge MJ, but because my D3 level went so low that my body was not even absorbing from sun. I took D3 test, and test started taking medicine.<br /> I am not a doctor nor i know anything about medical thing. Its just that, what OP showed symptoms, i went through the same that&#039;s why shared my points. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Exactly.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@MJ DeMarco">@MJ DeMarco</a> There have been studies that have shown that around 50-60% of SURFER dudes are deficient in Vitamin D.. <br /> <br /> How much Vitamin D is absorbed through the skin seemed to also be related to how often you shower. Those that didn&#039;t shower as often have been found to have higher Vitamin D levels.<br /> <br /> So any adult living the urban life and showering regularly is likely to be VERY deficient.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Hey <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/33771/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="33771" data-username="@Fox">@Fox</a><br /> <br /> Could you ask them if they have had a D-Dimer test done and if so what the results were?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><div> <a href="https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/national/data-says-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-can-cause-heart-problems" class="link link--external" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href=""> https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/national/data-says-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-can-cause-heart-problems </a> </div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Guys these responses are great - thanks everyone. I’ll check in and see if any updates. Thanks.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33771" data-quote="Fox" data-source="post: 960938" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=960938" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-960938">Fox said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <b>**** This <u>isn&#039;t my post</u> but it is from someone from the forums who asked for help.<br /> They didn&#039;t want to post themselves for privacy reasons since their username is linked to their real name - so I am posting this on their behalf ***</b><br /> <br /> <br /> About 5 months ago I got the shot (the one with the new technology) and for the past 4 and a half months, I’ve been dealing with some really challenging health issues, and I could use the help of the forum here, as I’ve gotten nowhere going to what seems like a revolving door of specialists and doctors.<br /> <br /> <b><u>Current Health Issue and What I’ve Done So Far:</u></b><br /> <br /> About 4 and a half months ago, I randomly had really bad shortness of breath and tightness in my chest (about 2 weeks after my first dose of the shot), the first thing doctors thought was a heart attack (I’m in my early 30s so wasn’t too worried about that). They told me I had to go to the emergency room and since then, I’ve gotten the following workup:<br /> <br /> -Went to a cardiologist and did a stress test, echocardiogram, several EKGs, and blood work: my heart is completely fine<br /> <br /> -Went to a pulmonologist and did several breathing tests and exams, and a CT scan of my chest and my lungs and lung function seems to be fine<br /> <br /> -Went to a rheumatologist and got a full autoimmune blood work panel (for what they can test for) and everything came back normal and he said they couldn’t help me<br /> <br /> -Have been going to a physical therapist for 3 months who can’t understand why the muscles around my ribs / intercostal muscles are so inflamed and why even when he works to loosen them up, they keep getting tight and going back into that state<br /> <br /> -MRI of my brain, everything came back normal<br /> <br /> -General bloodwork and checkup from my general doctor where nothing out of ordinary showed up<br /> <br /> -Have tried a month’s supply of anti-inflammatory drugs that didn’t help and oral steroids (legitimately had my rheumatologist say “I don’t understand why your body’s inflammation isn’t responding to the steroids)<br /> <br /> -I’ve moved to more Eastern medicine too and tried acupuncture and that didn’t help too much and other alternative medicines with Naturopaths who haven’t been able to figure this out<br /> <br /> -In case this was just mental health, I’ve been speaking to a therapist for over a month who said he’s confused what’s happening with my body too<br /> <br /> -I went on a really strict anti-inflammatory diet (cut out all alcohol, all junk food, all sugary drinks and foods) and just ate extremely clean for around 2 months and that didn&#039;t have any impact at all on these symptoms or the inflammation<br /> <br /> <b><u>What the Symptoms Have Been Like So Far:</u></b><br /> <br /> <br /> 1. It started as just really bad shortness of breath and tightness in my ribs (front, sides and back). The physical therapist and other doctors have said they think my intercostal muscles are tight and that inflammation is causing my lungs / body to feel like I’m not getting a full breath and for it to hurt and be uncomfortable when I breathe<br /> <br /> 2. In the last few months (it’s gotten worse over time and continues to trend in the wrong direction) I’ve had pains that started in my hands that’s moved down into my wrist and now my forearms (in addition to the rib discomfort).<br /> <br /> 3. I never had any issues with anxiety or stress, but that’s all been on such high alert with how miserable that I’ve felt that I find this affecting my overall quality of life where I feel way more stressed than usual about normal stuff that usually wasn’t an issue.<br /> <br /> 4. When the initial issue happened about 4 months ago and when I had doctor’s say I may be having a heart attack, I was definitely a bit worried and I noticed my hands and jawline going numb and almost locking up (maybe I was hyperventilating)<br /> <br /> 5. When I try to exercise, it makes the inflammation and discomfort worse almost like it flares up so it&#039;s been hard to not exercise too much<br /> <br /> <br /> <b><u>The Challenge I’m Currently Running Into</u></b><br /> <br /> Since the doctors have no idea what the hell is going on, I’ve had a few doctors recently (a psychiatrist and a neurologist) who want me to take antidepressants or anti anxiety medications.<br /> <br /> I’m the kind of person where I only like to take medicine if it’s absolutely necessary (even for mild things) so I’m very hesitant, but I don’t know what specialist/where else to turn to next, and the symptoms keep trending in the wrong direction.<br /> <br /> <br /> <b><u>My Question for the Forum:</u></b><br /> <br /> I’ve had a lot of doctors say they feel that this is an adverse reaction to that (obviously can’t be sure, but nothing else changed with my health besides that). I was very hesitant to get the shot and I didn’t fall into a risk group for the disease, but I wanted to travel again and figured hundreds of millions of people took it (which I know isn’t a good reason) so it seemed relatively safe by the time I got it.<br /> <br /> If people want to say I’m an idiot for taking the shot, I completely agree with that and obviously, I’d take it back if I could, but I made a decision and I need to just focus on ways to improve where I’m at now.<br /> <br /> Does anyone here have any suggestions at all for the following questions:<br /> <br /> <br /> A. Do you know anyone personally who has dealt with similar side effects from the shot and how were they able to overcome it (if they did)?<br /> <br /> B. Would it be worth it to try to take some mental health drug (they are trying to put me on an SSRI or benzodiazepines which really concern me)?<br /> <br /> C. Does anyone have any ideas of what type of doctor I could go to next?<br /> <br /> D. If steroids, physical therapy for months and other anti-inflammatories aren&#039;t working, what else could I try?<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>**** Again this <u>isn&#039;t my post</u> but it is from someone from the forums who asked for help with posting this ***</b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>This sounds similar to what I struggled with in my early 20s. It was early onset of ankylosing spondylitis.<br /> Intense rib, chest and join pain early hours of morning until mid day most days. Id find it hard to breath and the pain was quite intense. Took nearly 10 years to get properly diagnosed. My blood levels often showed up fine. Anti inflammatory drugs/ diet/ physical therapy never really helped. Doctors also suggested it was psychological. Even I began to think i was imagining it all lol. Then it progressed to my bones beginning to fuse up in my lower back and hips and struggled to walk for about 2 years. MrI scsn finally discovered it, got properly diagnosed and put on <b>anti tnf</b> drugs and I&#039;m fine now.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33006" data-quote="TonyStark" data-source="post: 961199" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961199" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961199">TonyStark said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Isn’t this a business forum? I’m surprised MJ lets this thread continue. If it was anyone other than Fox it would’ve been closed by now lol<br /> <br /> Can’t take anyone that calls the VAXClNE a “jab” seriously.<br /> <br /> Anyways, If I didn’t know any better, I’d think this was a post meant to sow doubt in people about taking the VAXClNE; or merely to cause a disruption in the forum. I don’t know why you would want to ask a forum of entrepreneurs about this, go ask your doctors lol<br /> <br /> And just to be clear, I had C0VlD last year and experienced many of the symptoms Op is describing! They lasted for months after the onset of my first illness. (Inflammation, costochondritis, etc)<br /> <br /> I got the Pfizer “jab” (both doses” a few months ago and I feel fantastic!! The second one left me a bit sluggish but I easily recovered! I’m in the best shape ever.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbMediaWrapper" data-media-site-id="youtube" data-media-key="7rbGTefVvWU"> <div class="bbMediaWrapper-inner"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7rbGTefVvWU?wmode=opaque" loading="lazy" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe> </div> </div><i><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://youtu.be/7rbGTefVvWU" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">View: https://youtu.be/7rbGTefVvWU</a></span></i> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Friends first and business second <br /> <br /> Cool to know where you stand though.<br /> <br /> What a low value response.<br /> <br /> ****<br /> <br /> anyway…<br /> <br /> “Here&#039;s the update based on the feedback to follow up on posts: <br /> <br /> -My vitamin D levels were tested during a random physical a year ago and they were a little low so I&#039;ve been on and off vitamin D supplements (they were in the normal range last time I checked) but I can start that again<br /> <br /> -I can add magnesium into my diet, I took it in the past <br /> <br /> -I did have a c-reactive protein test and it came back negative <br /> <br /> -Also trying CBD to see if that helps with the inflammation<br /> <br /> -Never had a d-dimer test but I did have imaging done to check for blood clots in my lungs and the tests came back negative <br /> <br /> -Also just a general thank you for the forum and to MJ for allowing this to stay up to get some ideas for how I can get past this”</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 37061" data-quote="Devampre" data-source="post: 961290" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961290" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961290">Devampre said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hey <a href="https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/members/33771/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="33771" data-username="@Fox">@Fox</a><br /> <br /> Could you ask them if they have had a D-Dimer test done and if so what the results were? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="231304" data-url="https://www.bitchute.com/video/zjF19U0e2q8x/" data-host="www.bitchute.com" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic-3.bitchute.com%2Flive%2Fcover_images%2FsJFDQtjzuuwx%2FzjF19U0e2q8x_320x180.jpg&amp;hash=7e0b8f4ad443b6da6203880fa1f5c4a6&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.bitchute.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.bitchute.com/video/zjF19U0e2q8x/" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Medical Doctor explains blood clotting in the vaccinated. Vaccinated people will die within 3 years! </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">Video taken from Vincent James. - Immunologists Say the MRNA Vaccine is a ‘Big Mistake’ as New Data Show Accumulation in Reproductive Organs. https://www.dailyveracity.com/2021/06/06/immunologists-say-the-mrna-vaccine-is-a-big-mistake-as-new-data-shows-accumulation-in-reproductive-organs/...</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitchute.com%2Ficons%2Ffavicon-128x128.png&amp;hash=dc49707c1c0d236c377ee93f5d300bec&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.bitchute.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.bitchute.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> The title of the video is unfortunately a little misleading from the actual discussion and info the Doc lays out but could be something to look for and test. As he says it not likely to show up on general imaging of the lungs or normal testing. Just another possibility to look into.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33771" data-quote="Fox" data-source="post: 961296" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961296" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961296">Fox said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> -I did have a c-reactive protein test and it came back negative </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> uh.... I hate to break it to ya... but a CRP test result is a range in digits... you should have received a number value, not positive/negative. Ideally, you want to be under 1 but bad things are happening above 9. You might want to check that one again. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 3474" data-quote="Red" data-source="post: 961302" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961302" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961302">Red said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> uh.... I hate to break it to ya... but a CRP test result is a range in digits... you should have received a number value, not positive/negative. Ideally, you want to be under 1 but bad things are happening above 9. You might want to check that one again. <img src="/community/imgs/emoticons/em-wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;d say anything above 4-5 mg/L means there&#039;s something going on. I had 105 at one point years ago.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33771" data-quote="Fox" data-source="post: 961296" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961296" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961296">Fox said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My vitamin D levels were tested during a random physical a year ago and they were a little low </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>OP, before I was hit with covid, my D3 was normal but in just 1 month, it hit rock bottom.<br /> <br /> 1 year old test doesn&#039;t match here. I would really suggest to take a specific D3 test instead of general one.<br /> This might expose something.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 26815" data-quote="GIlman" data-source="post: 961154" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961154" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961154">GIlman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> First and foremost, the following is just me giving some thoughts and opinions about C0VlD and vaccines, and cannot be construed or followed as medical advice for any person or situation, nor should it be taken as advice for any diagnosis or treatment. Any diagnosis or treatment plan must be between you and your doctor, and you really can’t rely, trust, or act on any information you find in this post or online because anyone (including myself) have very incomplete information and insight into your own personal medical situation. In other word’s this is not to be construed as medical advice for anyone under any circumstances. <br /> <br /> First, I want to point out that our understanding and diagnosis of disease is based on past experience. It is certainly possible that there is some completely unknown medical condition linked to the VAXClNE that we do not have specific diagnostic tests or experience treating. Right now we are seeing different patterns of symptoms after an actual C0VlD infection =&gt; People are referring to these symptoms as Long Haul C0VlD Syndrome (LHCS). <br /> <br /> What the underlying cause of LHCS, how physiology is effected, what medications can treat this, and what long there effects and permanently disability might be are largely unknown. It can take many many years to sort out the specifics, treatment, and prognosis of a disease. <br /> <br /> There are also reports out there of some similar constellation of symptoms after the VAXClNE that seem to mimic Long Haul C0VlD. I have searched, but not been able to find an proven answer to what causes long haul C0VlD, but if long haul C0VlD symptoms are related to the spike protein, it would be conceivable that some people who got the VAXClNE could develop symptoms from the VAXClNE due to the spike protein produced by the VAXClNE. <br /> <br /> Usually with any disease there is a root cause, and then the down stream effects. I usually think of this from a systems based approach. For instance, if with shortness of breath, there are many system problems that can cause this, you have:<br /> <br /> 1) The cardiac system composed of your heart. You can have problems with the heart itself such as damage to the heart muscle from inflammation (myocarditis) or lack of blood flow within the heard leading to tissue death (ischemia i.e. Heart attack). You can have inflammation and/or fluid collection of the sac that covers the heart called the pericardium, that can restrict the ability of the heart to move adequately. <br /> <br /> 2) The pulmonary system composed of the lungs and airways. If the airways are compromised in any way then air cannot move freely in and out of the lungs. If the lung tissue is damaged then the air that gets into the lungs cannot effectively get oxygen into the blood and remove carbon dioxide. <br /> <br /> 3) The vascular system is the blood vessels in your body. You actually have 2 different systems, the pulmonary which is the blood circulation to your lungs, and the systemic circulation which is the blood circulation to the rest of your body. Shortness of breath can and is often caused by blood clots in the lungs themselves. Also you can actually get high blood pressure in the lungs called pulmonary hypertension which can cause strain on the heart because it’s pushing against too much pressure - this is one thing I have been worried about with the VAXClNE and C0VlD which I’ll explain below.<br /> <br /> 4) Musculoskeletal - the bones and muscles. In particular the diaphragm is critical to your day in and day out breathing. The intercostal muscles between your ribs can play a role but usually more under exertion and exercise. If there is an underlying problem with the muscle - like a myopathy (which is a disorder of the muscle) or a myositis (inflammation of the muscle) then it’s possible that could lead to shortness of breath.<br /> <br /> 5) Neurological - the brain and nerves. The brain has to generate the signal and the nerves have to carry that signal out to the body. Alternatively receptors in the tissues can generate a signal, send the signal back to the brain. Say that there was some issue generating or transmitting the signal from the brain to the diaphragm. Then you could have muscle weakness that could impact the diaphragm. <br /> <br /> So the trick with new types of symptoms is to try and work through the systems and figure out where the underlying problem is. As you can see a problem in one system can actually cause problems in other systems as a secondary effect. <br /> <br /> There is obvious evidence that the vaccines are capable of causing inflammation and damage in some tissues, one of the big ones that has been confirmed is myocarditis. Although I don’t know that the exact mechanism of this inflammation is known, it is known that spike protein binds to ACE2 receptors. Now ACE2 receptors are scattered all over the body, they are located on what we call endothelial cells, which are the cells that line the inside of your blood vessels. <br /> <br /> Now, reportedly they added some sugar molecules to the binding sites of the spike protein in the VAXClNE, which they believed would make it unable to bind with ACE2 receptors. However, given that people are getting myocarditis, it’s entirely possible that things either don’t work or don’t always work exactly as these companies expected. I do want to point out that myocarditis ALSO has been documented with C0VlD infection, which leads me to believe that the cause of both is probably the same, and the only similarity of the VAXClNE and the virus is the spike protein, ergo it’s likely that the spike protein is responsible for myocarditis in both.<br /> <br /> If this is indeed the case, and as we discussed previously, ACE2 receptors are spread throughout your body, then it would be expected that spike protein from VAXClNE or infection could literally impact any tissue within the body. The question would then be, what the bio distribution of the spike protein was. Or in other words how much spike protein happened to be in the blood stream and what tissues to it go to the most in a given person. <br /> <br /> Back to Pulmonary Hypertension which we discussed briefly above. The lungs like that heart have a particularly large amount of ACE2 in the blood vessel lining. If spike protein is indeed binding to these blood vessels and causing inflammation, it is possibly causing tiny blood clots and damage the the lungs. This blood vessel damage could then lead to increased blood pressure in the lungs making the heart work harder and the lungs less efficient in their function. <br /> <br /> At this point in time there are lots of people trying to work out all the details of what is, what is not, and why it’s happening. Unfortunately right now there are a ton of open questions that do not have definitive answers. I wish I could tell you more than that. When that is the situation, then we don’t always know what tests are appropriate for diagnosis or what medication or therapy to treat.<br /> <br /> As far as possible post VAXClNE problems, we have a lot to sort out. There are some people that have started treating these VAXClNE patients similar to long haul C0VlD patients. I have heard some reports of improvement after these treatments. Please realize that improvement after a treatment does not mean that the treatment worked, it means the person improved which could have been due to either the treatment or the person naturally getting over it themselves. That’s why things need good research and study to tell the difference between the two.<br /> <br /> Here is one resource for reference about long haul C0VlD treatment people are using. <br /> <br /> <a href="https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/FLCCC-Alliance-I-RECOVER-Management-Protocol-for-Long-Haul-C0VlD-19-Syndrome.pdf" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-...-Protocol-for-Long-Haul-C0VlD-19-Syndrome.pdf</a> (This link is probably broken, change the word C0VlD to the correct spelling)<br /> <br /> Certainly you should discuss this with your doctor and see if they think it is appropriate. If you disagree with your doctor you can always seek out a second option from another doctor. There are doctors that believe the VAXClNE is highly safe and some that think it is likely unsafe. So seeking out a doctor that has VAXClNE concerns will probably be the best route to go. However under no circumstances should you try to self diagnose, treat, or medicate yourself.<br /> <br /> Sorry I can’t be more helpful, at this time there are far too many unknowns, hopefully we get clarity and answers soon. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>This response is very very noteworthy<br /> <br /> a lot of the side effects Fox describes are very similar to the ones I experienced during my long haul, post-COVID experience. I, too, panicked and went to get tested for everything my insurance would cover (heart, CT scan of the lungs, blood, etc)<br /> <br /> i was in immense pain, having the most rare and peculiar flare ups/allergic reactions/ in my body, all around body aches which felt like arthritis in my bones and hands and elbows, hair loss, etc…<br /> <br /> it could be possible that the vaccine would cause these similar symptoms….<br /> <br /> I mostly took Tylenol daily (and I never take meds!) to help ease the pain for about 3 months. I meditated in the sun a lot and tried to keep active to keep my mind off of the pain and discomfort.<br /> <br /> I hope it wears off for him after a while. I would suggest he join some long-hauler Facebook groups so he doesn’t feel so alone.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33006" data-quote="TonyStark" data-source="post: 961383" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961383" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961383">TonyStark said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This response is very very noteworthy<br /> <br /> a lot of the side effects Fox describes are very similar to the ones I experienced during my long haul, post-C0VlD experience. I, too, panicked and went to get tested for everything my insurance would cover (heart, CT scan of the lungs, blood, etc)<br /> <br /> i was in immense pain, having the most rare and peculiar flare ups/allergic reactions/ in my body, all around body aches which felt like arthritis in my bones and hands and elbows, hair loss, etc…<br /> <br /> it could be possible that the VAXClNE would cause these similar symptoms….<br /> <br /> I mostly took Tylenol daily (and I never take meds!) to help ease the pain for about 3 months. I meditated in the sun a lot and tried to keep active to keep my mind off of the pain and discomfort.<br /> <br /> I hope it wears off for him after a while. I would suggest he join some long-hauler Facebook groups so he doesn’t feel so alone. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Reading the above post, I wonder what are the chances that it’s not a reaction to the vaccine? Could it be a combination of having covid and then getting the vaccine and causing all this?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 961388" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961388" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961388">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Reading the above post, I wonder what are the chances that it’s not a reaction to the VAXClNE? Could it be a combination of having C0VlD and then getting the VAXClNE and causing all this? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I’m not sure if the user (Fox’s friend) had COVID I think he only got the shot.<br /> I had COVID over a year ago and that’s when I experienced the symptoms.<br /> Only recently I got the shot and experienced 0 advertise side effects.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33006" data-quote="TonyStark" data-source="post: 961407" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961407" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961407">TonyStark said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I’m not sure if the user (Fox’s friend) had C0VlD I think he only got the shot.<br /> I had C0VlD over a year ago and that’s when I experienced the symptoms.<br /> Only recently I got the shot and experienced 0 advertise side effects. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I&#039;m curious why anyone would take the vacks when they&#039;ve already had the C. Doesn&#039;t that indicate a fundamental misunderstanding of how vaccines work? <br /> <br /> Normal model: <br /> - This illness is devastating when people get it. <br /> - But we&#039;ve found a way to trigger the immune system to produce antibodies to the illness without getting the actual illness.<br /> - That way, if the person is exposed to the pathogen in the future, they already have antibodies and their immune system is able to recognize it and ramp up quickly to deal with it. <br /> - Therefore, the pathogen gets shut down and the person doesn&#039;t get sick.<br /> <br /> This time around: <br /> - PeOpLe WhO aLrEaDy HaVe AnTiBoDiEs STILL NeEd To UsE <u>OuR</u> wAy Of TrIgGeRiNg ThE iMmUnE sYsTeM tO pRoDuCe AnTiBoDiEs.<br /> <br /> I can understand that most people are sheep and don&#039;t understand science and will do what they&#039;re told simply because the powers that be tell them to and/or scare them into it. <br /> <br /> But why would a reasonably intelligent, well-read person do this?<br /> <br /> I&#039;m curious to know what your thought process was. How did this make sense?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 59397" data-quote="Bekit" data-source="post: 961457" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961457" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961457">Bekit said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m curious why anyone would take the vacks when they&#039;ve already had the C. Doesn&#039;t that indicate a fundamental misunderstanding of how vaccines work?<br /> <br /> Normal model:<br /> - This illness is devastating when people get it.<br /> - But we&#039;ve found a way to trigger the immune system to produce antibodies to the illness without getting the actual illness.<br /> - That way, if the person is exposed to the pathogen in the future, they already have antibodies and their immune system is able to recognize it and ramp up quickly to deal with it.<br /> - Therefore, the pathogen gets shut down and the person doesn&#039;t get sick.<br /> <br /> This time around:<br /> - PeOpLe WhO aLrEaDy HaVe AnTiBoDiEs STILL NeEd To UsE <u>OuR</u> wAy Of TrIgGeRiNg ThE iMmUnE sYsTeM tO pRoDuCe AnTiBoDiEs.<br /> <br /> I can understand that most people are sheep and don&#039;t understand science and will do what they&#039;re told simply because the powers that be tell them to and/or scare them into it.<br /> <br /> But why would a reasonably intelligent, well-read person do this?<br /> <br /> I&#039;m curious to know what your thought process was. How did this make sense? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I assume it&#039;s because antibodies have been found to be temporary in many people and nearly non-existent in others. <br /> <br /> Still, if I had COVID at least once for sure (I probably did but I never got tested) then I wouldn&#039;t be lining up to get the vaccine. Plus, I already have an autoimmune disease so I&#039;d rather not experiment with the effects of it.<br /> <br /> Personally, I like to believe faith will have or has already had its way with all of us and I do my best to not think about it.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 39527" data-quote="Simon Angel" data-source="post: 961462" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961462" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961462">Simon Angel said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I assume it&#039;s because antibodies have been found to be temporary in many people and nearly non-existent in others. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yeah. To me, this is what makes the vacks a moot point to begin with. This is why they&#039;ve never bothered to come up with a way to vacksinate against the 4 coronaviruses that we&#039;ve known about for decades that cause the common cold. <br /> <br /> &quot;Here, take this shot. It may or may not produce antibodies. And even if it does, your antibodies will be gone in 6 months anyway and you&#039;ll be right back at the point where you started.&quot; <br /> <br /> It&#039;s not like chicken pox where you have lifelong antibodies once you&#039;ve been exposed. <br /> <br /> I just don&#039;t get the logic. It looks to me like there IS no logic, just a big fat agenda.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 55234" data-quote="Antifragile" data-source="post: 961388" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961388" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961388">Antifragile said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Reading the above post, I wonder what are the chances that it’s not a reaction to the VAXClNE? Could it be a combination of having C0VlD and then getting the VAXClNE and causing all this? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You could always check to see if there is evidence of prior Covid exposure. You can do an antibody test against the N protein which is the covering (nucleocapsid). <br /> <br /> The vaccine has no N protein so if antibodies are present to the N protein that means you had natural infection at some point.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl is-pending is-recrawl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="231619" data-url="https://www.labcorp.com/tests/164068/sars-cov-2-antibodies-nucleocapsid" data-host="www.labcorp.com" data-pending="true"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <span class="fa-2x u-muted"> <i class="fa--xf far fa-spinner fa-pulse "><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" role="img" aria-hidden="true" ><use href="/community/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1749395433#spinner"></use></svg></i> </span> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.labcorp.com/tests/164068/sars-cov-2-antibodies-nucleocapsid" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-proxy-href=""> 164068: SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies, Nucleocapsid | Labcorp </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">Labcorp test details for SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies, Nucleocapsid</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="/community/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.labcorp.com%2Flabcorp-d8%2Ffavicon.ico&amp;hash=701bf35c35c7da2a33474effd928208f&amp;return_error=1" loading="lazy" alt="www.labcorp.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.labcorp.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> There are antibody tests to look for S protein antibodies as well, but those should be present with either infection or vaccination. So the N antibody test is required to tell the difference.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">If you are in the US, you should be able to get antibody testing for no cost. It was part of the CARES act. I just got it but have not received my results yet. I&#039;m hoping for a positive though!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;m actually in the middle of something similar currently. Got my second shot at the beginning of April, and since then I&#039;ve been seeing a rheumatologist as I feel like I have arthritis in my entire body. Some days debilitating to the point I barely move.<br /> <br /> Doctor says I show physical signs of psoriatic arthritis but my blood work/labs and X-rays all show nothing that would say any kind of arthritis. He ran tests checking for a long list of other issues, including to see if my Lyme&#039;s Disease is active again, but everything looks good according to him. Have been taking Celecoxib (Celebrex) for about a month and half, helped at first but in the past week it seems to not have any effect. Will be seeing the Doc again next week. Starting to think something with the vaxcine might be responsible as this started happening soon after. Also, have a mysterious blood clot in my left arm, the entire length. Vein feels like stone. Luckily not a DVT (yet), just Superficial Thrombophlebitis, it&#039;s being monitored to see if it dissipates on its own.<br /> <br /> Just need to grind it out and hope for the best.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;ve changed the thread title again. <br /> <br /> If you had the VAX, or several, and experienced NO side effects, feel free to say so. <br /> <br /> This thread is for sharing <b><u>ALL</u></b> experiences -- good, bad, or indifferent.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 961265" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961265" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961265">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You&#039;re right, I changed the title. &quot;Jab&quot; implies a particular agenda. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Holy f*#k if I hear the word &quot;jab&quot; again... it makes me want to viciously scratch my eyes out and rip my ears off while free falling off a bridge.<br /> <br /> On the plus side, it seems to get used at the beginning of any statement so in a way I&#039;m thankful. I can tune out, close my eyes and go to my happy place immediately.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 34918" data-quote="MattR82" data-source="post: 961579" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961579" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961579">MattR82 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Holy f*#k if I hear the word &quot;jab&quot; again... it makes me want to viciously scratch my eyes out and rip my ears off while free falling off a bridge. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Isn&#039;t &quot;jab&quot; just the British English term for vaccine?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1" data-quote="MJ DeMarco" data-source="post: 961578" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961578" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961578">MJ DeMarco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ve changed the thread title again.<br /> <br /> If you had the VAX, or several, and experienced NO side effects, feel free to say so.<br /> <br /> This thread is for sharing <b><u>ALL</u></b> experiences -- good, bad, or indifferent. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I took a Sinovac Chinese vaccine. Had to bust my a$$ finding private avenues of getting one in Malaysia...the administration stopped buying new Chinese vaccines as they want to focus more on Astrazeneca and Pfizier.<br /> <br /> Since Sinovac is a traditional inactivated virus type, I had next to no side effects for both of my doses...only slight tiredness, an ache on the injection-spot for a few mins...and that&#039;s it.<br /> <br /> My sibling however developed a full skin rash though after first dose.<br /> A stupid doctor asked him to take ANOTHER DIFFERENT VACCINE SHOT since he showed bad signs from the Sinovac injection...but it doesn&#039;t make sense to mix entirely different types of vaccines. <br /> <br /> We went to go get a second opinion, and just got some antihistamines to mellow the skin rash. Second dose for my sibling turned out OK.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;ve heard there are no health side-effects from getting a fake VAX documents.<br /> Curious what is the percentage of them.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 89301" data-quote="mdot" data-source="post: 961584" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/community/goto/post?id=961584" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-961584">mdot said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Isn&#039;t &quot;jab&quot; just the British English term for VAXClNE? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> It is a common way of saying it in Ireland but it does sound quite propaganda-ish.</div>
 

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