I mean is it really a bold prediction when we’re not counting based on season?The prediction was correct
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Free registration at the forum removes this block.I mean is it really a bold prediction when we’re not counting based on season?The prediction was correct
I mean is it really a bold prediction when we’re not counting based on season?
The prediction was correct
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDelUkpFm60
Some notes from one of this country's top experts in Epidemiology from Harvard:
From Ray Dalio: (My Thoughts About the Coronavirus)
- 40 - 70% of the adult population will be infected
- Most people will have no symptoms (but can still carry and spread the virus)
- Let say half the people of those infected actually show symptoms
- If that's the case, millions of people will still die due to the scale of the virus
- The percentage of people who are symptomatic goes up with age (e.g. the older you are the more likely you will show symptoms from C0VlD-19)
- We have some bounds on what to expect: This will transmit globally
- For preparation:
- Schools will close, public gatherings will be restricted
- Business owners/workplaces will make it easier to stay home if sick (e.g., won't count sick days and still get paid)
- If sick, stay home and be prepared to stay home for a while
- C0VlD-19 will not be an existential threat. Things will be awful for a while but civilization will not be brought to its knees
No, it wasn't. He predicted that 1 million plus will die FROM corona, and not that 1 million will die WITH corona and 2.6 other diseases (on average), where it's unclear what can be considered as the main cause of death (90%+ are 60 years and older), e.g. one comorbidity is chronic lower respiratory disease (it's chronic, so no germs, but work environment, etc.). Those who died FROM corona without any comorbidities are probably around 60.000 (according to the CDC's 6% statement), and that is world-wide. If this is enough to warrant a panic of such a scale, the bankruptcy of large parts of the world, making trillions in debt for future generations to pay, then I don't really have anything to say anymore, except that all this "prudence" is in fact enabling those schemers, and they will get even more brazen in the future, until we live in caves sucking on cold potatoes.The prediction was correct
Yay, we just added another leading cause of death to compete with car accidents and heart disease. What’s the big deal?
The long term health effects aren’t great even if you survive, and cramming hospitals full of Covid patients means other people won’t get surgeries and emergency care and will die. And there will be a lot of lost productivity from people who are out sick for a week or a month, not to mention medical bills a lot of people will have trouble paying.. And being dismissive of Covid because it affects people worst when they have other health problems is cynical to say the least. And unlike aids or lung cancer there isn’t an easy way for vulnerable or risk-averse people to avoid Covid if morons walk around without their masks in public.
But yeah it’s all about math comprehension and the media playing politics. Gimme a break.
The point is look at how the global economy has been shut down, and freedoms completely trampled on, for something that is less dangerous than driving cars.
We all know the risk of driving cars or being near a road... but we don't rule out lives by that risk. Or impinge on the freedoms of others.
I'm not being dismissive of covid. When someone comes down with covid, it's brutal and horrific. By using the above stats, I'm not being dismissive of car accidents... or AIDS (one of the next biggest global killers after car accidents)... I'm putting the risk in context.
I agree overall with the sentiment, however, a counter point you should consider in your argument:
Not everyone gets into a car accident every year, or dies from said car accident.
Not everyone will get covid either, but, we've reduced the risk by enacting these rules. kind of like road safety rules.
If we didn't enact these rules, then in theory everyone could get infected with COVID.
Now imagine that... If you changed the ratio of how many cars got into an accident every year, to EVERY CAR gets into an accident, EVERY year, multiple times per year, then those deaths of 1million jump drastically..
e.g. if on average it takes 100 car accidents to kill 1 person.
and 1 million people die in car accidents.
then we can assume there are 100 million car accidents per year.
however, not all 360 million americans drive.. so that's another factor which I am not equating here...
now, what if we have 400 million car accidents per year?
well those deaths go from 1 million to 4 million.
what if we go from 400 million car accidents to 1 billion car accidents? as cars can get into multiple accidents.... now we have 10 million people dying......
anyway, my numbers aren't correct, but, im just trying to show you that it's a "nothing burger" until it is.
Diseases like covid spread geometrically and exponentially. car accidents do not.
I can’t tell if this is a prediction, an alarm, or a sales pitch.Irish guy here and with a small country of approx 5 million its been pretty easy to monitor population deaths pre-pandemic and during the pandemic and the results have been clear: that Covid is vastly more infectious, more dangerous, and has more lasting effects on a sizeable number of both young and old victims, with the new term "Long Covid" being used.
Personally I have lost an elderly couple I was friends with, neither of whom was in any danger of dying pre-covid. A work mate early 20's got it months ago and hasn't recovered fully due to "Long Covid". Facegroups are being formed here for trying to monitor symptoms and effects. Studies are now showing serious brain chemistry deterioration in some victims too.
One of our main tv presenters has charted the effects Long Covid has had on her too.
Thankfully we as a society were able to pull together and apart from a very small minority we were able to maintain a general mask wearing manifesto which crushed the first wave though we are now moving into full gear to fighting the predicted second wave which has just begun.
It has been almost unbelievable to watch the train crash that the USA has become where even the most basic common sense medical guidelines have been politicised and use as rallying calls for fear, racism, hate and division. But it hasn't been surprising.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRFbwjwQ4VE&fbclid=IwAR3lb62zDHjD3SRn8OB0ev5h_UJq-tdxj2dMjIQUKSYCqloZ-HwnlgV3e5c&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight
As a teacher with 25 years of experience in History, Politics, Sociology and ethnic conflict I would like to warn anyone reading that the binary divide in American Politics has been a process that has been deliberately engineered for several decades now, and ironically it has nothing to do with America at all.
The strategy of the Religious Right has been for decades been to court the "Republican Party" and to use the right wing media like Fox etc. to push the USA into more and more wars in the Middle East, with a focus on the Holy Land. But Why?
Fundamentalist religious groups like the Evangelical Movement have adopted a twisted reading of the Bible and in short they believe that by starting a third World War they will bring back Jesus. It was a similar twisted reading of the Bible that sparked the Crusades a Millennia ago. To our eternal shame it was a fundamentalist Irish preacher in the 1800's called John Darby who helped sparked this bizarre movement. Basically this fake guru was ran out of Ireland and but found an enthusiastic audience in the Bible Belt for fake Guru sales pitches like "The Rapture".
Recommended Book:
The Last Crusade : Religion and the Politics of Misdirection: Victor, Barbara: 9781841199559: Amazon.com: Books
As the recent wars have ended up with America being bogged in unwinnable wars the "intelligent" and "sane" Republicans have decided to oppose any more wars especially against Iran, a country that hasn't attacked another country in over 2000 years.
As a result the Religious Right have now dropped any pretence of democracy and are openly moving America towards Fascism with their medieval cries of "God Wills It! This Covid Pandemic is merely exposing their long term strategy to create more and more war and suffering in the world, particularly for the people of the Middle East who just want to be left alone.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgQ_FzZO7qs&feature=youtu.be
Remember ANY act, no matter how cruel, sadistic, or evil can be justified and celebrated through the prism of religious belief.
Trumps base and their endless diatribe of lies, distortions, Projections, Blameshifting, Cognitive dissonance and denial of over 1 million deaths is only a portant of much worse to come!. And there are no easy answers!
Stay safe out there!
I can’t tell if this is a prediction, an alarm, or a sales pitch.
Maybe all three.
Hah in fairness my post was a bit of a prediction, an alarm, and a sales pitch. But no my Celtic Spirituality is a nature based philosophy that can work in conjunction with other religions. It has no leader only Mother Nature and the Force energy that unites the cosmos. Napoleon Hill calls it infinite intelligence. Avoiding leaders or gurus means no cult of personality so it cant be corrupted... well not easily at least!
When you're meditating on top of a mountain or under a canopy of stars you realise that we have more than enough abundance on this planet to feed, clothe and house everyone... and that all the counter arguments that come from "Ego" centric humans seem nonsensical!
This tiny pale blue dot in the universe is the only home we have. We need to protect it!
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Definitely! I’m anti-violence except as a last resort. I’m not a pacifist though! There’s a difference!Just a quick question here to not waste much time, were you anti war in 2011 when Obama attacked Libya? I have been anti war since 2003, all the way, Bush, Obama and Trump. Glad we avoided Iran. Also against Putins crimea cringe. all armies are the enemy of the people.
I think you are totally right. But I think we need to take all factors into account.Gang, you are just witnessing the power of large numbers, and people's awful ability to comprehend them.
Basic arithmetic follows:
Of all the 50Million people who died in the last 10 months, 2% had C0VlD-19.
2%
98% of the people who died in the last 10 months. Didn't have Covid.
I don't get how you could be pro-war. At least physical war. I don't have that many problems with economical war, sanctions, etc. then an actual war. Just don't see the benefit for all parties involved.Just a quick question here to not waste much time, were you anti war in 2011 when Obama attacked Libya? I have been anti war since 2003, all the way, Bush, Obama and Trump. Glad we avoided Iran. Also against Putins crimea cringe. all armies are the enemy of the people.
how many wars did Trump did?? How many drone kills?Definitely! I’m anti-violence except as a last resort. I’m not a pacifist though! There’s a difference!
yeah we are going into "naked-king" mode here.how many wars did Trump did?? How many drone kills?
And then Obama or any other president>? By the way i dont believe there is a good president!
Lol. This virus thing is just so sick to the stomach! get your shot or else.. all tyrants..
And it works so good, soon you need a booster shot! for your safety.
Just a regular dump silly FP2 or 3 facemask will let you survive this dangerous thing!
the shot! the only product in the world where the failure is attributed to the unvaxtt
hahahahhahahaha this is better then the Muppetshow!!!
they don´t tell people they are maybe to fat!!! get your a$$ to the gym!
never say that they need vitamin D! also Vitamin C, no just take another pizza or pretzel!
If you get the C thing, never use more Vitamin D or C !! nooo
better not take other natural supplements!!! that is not the solution, the solution is big pharma..
How come some hospital owners now say on camera, here in Holland that out of 10 people on the IC With the Viru. 2 out of 10 are unvacxt 8 are vaxttdx
And soon they want to give the older people 3 booster!! lets boost them!! they are like a car battery! boost them in the winter! fire them up!! till heaven come!
SUre! its a dream!! you have to be a sleep to believe this stuff.
Been out of the forums for about a year..I am expressing an opinion and you're saying "DUMB"..nothing more to say..thank you!
Where can you find that information?More people have died of fentanyl overdoses than the C word this year.
We are 2 YEARS into “2 weeks to slow the spread.”
Aging like milk, all of it. Something’s rotten.
Gang, you are just witnessing the power of large numbers, and people's awful ability to comprehend them.
The lack of context in the media, turned a fairly weak novel virus into the greatest overreaction and coordinated mass hysteria in human history.
Here are some very basic facts:
Earth has about 7.8Billion people. (source: Worldofmeters)
Every human dies.
That means, 60million humans die each year (source: World Health Organization)
There are 365 days in a year.
Ergo: 160,000 humans die every single day.
(The total population of the San Francisco, dies every ~5 days, all year long)
In the 10 months since this virus started, 50 million people died normally
1 Million of them had C0VlD-19.
Basic arithmetic follows:
Of all the 50Million people who died in the last 10 months, 2% had C0VlD-19.
2%
98% of the people who died in the last 10 months. Didn't have Covid.
(Even if you were 'chicken little' and thought every single Covid death was excess mortality... then it would be 1M deaths out of 51M total deaths, further reducing the percentage of covid deaths to 1.9% of all deaths)
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This was the biggest non-story ever sold to the public.
As someone who is traveling around the world currently, I am just shocked to see what the US and European media sold their citizens. It's just... baffling.
And now we talk about 'cases' when someone gets a swab up their nose?
Not when they are sick?
Not when they are in the hospital?
Are you *kidding*?
Why did it happen?
- 24/7 Media with an incentive to get eyeballs, using fear, so as to sell more advertising
- Politicized world where you get an insane desire for hero and villains / right vs. wrong
(Trump vs Fauci, in whichever category you personally assign them)
- Social Media that allows the most idiotic ideas and fears to propagate amongst a compliant public faster than any virus can spread.
- Lack of context in any reporting (death counters??? Case counting??? Really?)
All four of those combined to produce the most rambunctious and obnoxious non-story in human history.
Whoever got rich off this (mainstream media, the guy selling those $25 metal things to push elevator buttons, and the companies selling face masks and dissenfectant) - good for them.
They pulled the biggest hood over people's eyes... ever.
Austria is the first European country to demand compulsory vaccinations for all citizens. Now, employees will be tasked with enforcing fines on those who refuse to acquire the COVID vaccine in the Austrian city of Linz.
The recruitment drive comes just weeks before the European country implements a broad vaccination mandate.
According to a job posting posted by the Austrian city of Linz, successful candidates will be issuing penalties, handling appeals, and taking action against people who fail to pay their fine for being unvaxinated.
According to the opening line, the job will suit those who "like working with legislation and administrative procedures."
Employees will be paid monthly for their hard work, with salaries starting at €2,774 ($3,126). <<- Gestapo
To be considered for the position, applicants must be Austrian nationals, have completed secondary education, be resilient and willing to work overtime, be free of criminal records, and, last but not least, have a valid Covid vaccine or recovery certificate.
Furthermore, when competing for the position against males with equivalent qualifications, women will be given preference. <<- why?
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