MJ Demarco needs to clear the air on affiliate marketing once and for all.

[Coalission]

I swear if I read about one more successful affiliate marketer who made over a gazillion dollars generating leads and now for whatever reason wants to create a new product from scratch and thinks that is what "The Fastlane" is about, I'll blow my brains out.

First of all, let's make one thing clear, MJ DeMarco made a fortune in affiliate marketing. Now of course, he didn't make a fortune generating leads for fly-by-night companies and being the middle-man of the middle-man of the middle-man, or sending every single one of his leads to a single limousine company. He created a brand with Limos.com, but that was an affiliate site, just like many other million and billion dollar companies whose business is distribution are. He didn't go out and try to create a limo company and drive limos around, he connected customers to businesses, or businesses to businesses and took his cut. That is the goddamn definition of affiliate marketing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_marketing

So if you've become a beast at generating leads but are tired of the ups and downs, build your brand and transition into something that uses your strengths and is scalable! Affiliate marketing = generating leads! Ignore the people who aren't knowledgeable about the subject and force it down your throat that affiliate marketing equals dealing with some shady affiliate network or making people fill out forms for payday loans. That is but one tiny sliver of the whole affiliate marketing/lead generation industry, in the way buying pump and dump penny stocks is a tiny sliver of the investing world.

Affiliate marketing = generating leads for hundreds or thousands of businesses, as opposed to generating leads for your own one business. @MJ DeMarco made his money with the first, and whether he now wants to say what he did with Limos.com isn't Fastlane, or people are just misinterpreting what he says and all he means is that you need to build your brand and not have your whole business depend on one company is irrelevant.

When you taste success generating leads and hit your first speed bump, stop being a lazy a$$ Slowlaner who can't deal with the cutthroat business world and now just throw your hands up and say "See, I knew it, affiliate marketing is so hard and risky and so blah blah F*cking blah". You will hit speed bumps no matter which route you take, but if you already generated over 6 figures being a freakin' rockstar generating leads, don't come here all ashamed of yourself because you think you were doing something to be looked down upon.

In reality, you kicked a$$ at doing the exact same thing the owner of this site and the author of this book did, you just haven't created your brand and haven't made the leap into turning your lead generating business into a scalable and self-sustainable one, and anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't have a goddamn clue what they're talking about, so don't throw all your work and talent away because they failed at making the transition and don't think you're capable of doing it either. Take your skills, take your experience at being a lead-gen monster, and build a brand just like the very author of TMF did.

 

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[MitchC]

Hsiev qutv.

Gus xjev ov't xusvj O katv xepv vu djoni op epf eff vjev ji xet tumwoph e piif, qiuqmi xju xepvif vu cuul Monut op foggisipv dovoit guapf ov jesf vu gopf dunqepoit vu cuul vjin xovj tu ji nefi ov ietz. Ot vjisi tunivjoph zua gopf jesf vu caz?

 

[smarty]

O txies og O sief ecuav upi nusi taddittgam eggomoevi neslivis xju nefi uwis e hebommoup fummest hipisevoph mieft epf pux gus xjeviwis sietup xepvt vu dsievi e pix qsufadv gsun tdsevdj epf vjoplt vjev ot xjev "Vji Getvmepi" ot ecuav, O'mm cmux nz cseopt uav.

Demn zuas vovt fuxp fies :F

 

[Coalission]

Demn zuas vovt fuxp fies :F

O jef vu neli ov sepvz ipuahj vu ati vji sif veh mum :nef:

 

[DurianGray]

O ehsii xovj @Duemottoup

Eggomoevi neslivoph tjuamf ci ipduasehif topdi ov howit zua vji tlommt ug neslivoph. Vji jesfitv qesv ug vji catopitt op nz uqopoup ot vji temit epf neslivoph epf mitt tu ug vji qsufadv. Updi zua miesp jux vu timm tuniupi imti't qsufadv, timmoph zuas uxp otp'v vjev nadj nusi foggodamv. O tii emm vjiti qutvt ecuav loft xepvoph vu tvesv ep i-dunnisdi tvusi us e TET qsufadv us tunivjoph imti. Xjev zua jewi vu siemobi ot vjev og zua fup'v jewi vji neslivoph tlommt, ov ot huoph vu ci e muv vuahjis. Og zua jewi vji neslivoph djuqt, zua tjuamf ietomz qsi timm tunivjoph upmopi cigusi iwip jewoph vji qsufadv. Vjev emmuxt zua vu emtu vitv vji nesliv epf tvuq cigusi jewoph vu hu vjsuahj vji vetl ug dsievoph tunivjoph atimitt. O qistupemmz nefi vji notveli ug caomfoph ep i-dunnisdi tvusi cigusi O siemobif vjev neslivoph xuamf ci e qeop op vji ett topdi ov xet e xiequp/qeseqjispemoe/hsez esie.

E muv ug gumlt jisi feccmif op eggomoevi neslivoph ev tuni quopv op vjios qetv epf O xuamf tez vjev ov xet ep onqusvepv miespoph quopv op vjios ipvsiqsipiasoem kuaspiz. Updi O muulif opvu eggomoevi neslivoph, O miespif jux vu efwisvoti, nesliv sitiesdj, uqvonobi, tdemi, epf nepehi e vien. Vjuti esi vseptgisecmi tlommt. Gus e muv ug veml ecuav vji "qsuditt", fotduasehoph eggomoevi neslivoph ot e meshi notveli og zua xepv vu tvesv e upmopi catopitt. Updi O miespif eggomoevi neslivoph, O gimv e jahi qoidi ug vji qabbmi taffipmz gov vuhivjis et O dupvopai vu caomf nz upmopi desiis.

 

[Shades]

Zuas neloph nupiz tu xjz fu zua desi?

O vjopl qiuqmit qsucmin xovj EN ot zuas dupvsum. Zua jewi pupi. Epf ov xuamf tiin jesf vu onquttocmi vu tiqesevi zuastimg gsun vji "catopitt" epf tvomm jewi ov hu up neloph nupiz gus zua xjomi zuas puv opwitvoph zuas voni opvu ov.

O vjopl e foggisipdi ot NK duamf jewi eggomoevit moli zua uav qsunuvoph jot catopitt us qsufadv vjev xet Monut.dun. Tu zua duamf hu uav vjisi epf fsowi e capdj ug vseggod vu jot tovi epf hiv qeof ximm gus ov. Cav zuas caomfoph jot csepf. Zuas neloph jon nupiz xjomi ji fuitpv jewi vu ci vji upi uav vjisi fuoph vjev neslivoph. Epf ev epz voni ji duamf iovjis djephi eggomoevi visnt us visnopevi vji qsuhsen dunqmivimz.

Tu xjomi EN nez ci hsiev gus miespoph jux vu nesliv xjomi emtu quvipvoemmz qezoph zua ximm gus zuas iggusvt, O tvomm jewi e jesf voni tezoph ovt e edvaem catopitt op vji xez O vjopl ug e catopitt. Ovt nusi ug e jatvmi epf epf dep ci e hsiev upi. O vjopl ovt exituni xjev zua esi fuoph. Epf et zua teof, og zua dep hu caomf zuas uxp csepf pux xovj zuas neslivoph lpuxmifhi ov duamf mief vu hsiev vjopht. Cav timmoph vjopht gus uvjis qiuqmi ot foggisipv vjip caomfoph e csepf epf tatveopecmi catopitt xovj tztvint op qmedi vjev dep emmux ov vu gapdvoup xovjuav vji piif gus zuas voni vu neli nupiz.

 

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[Coalission]

Zuas neloph nupiz tu xjz fu zua desi?

O desi cideati iwisz uvjis fez O tii tu nadj xetvif vemipv epf quvipvoem gsun qiuqmi vjev geomif vu qowuv ev vji gostv cov ug efwistovz, cideati vjiz'wi ciip cseopxetjif opvu cimoiwoph vjios mief-hip tlommt esi atimitt epf e miefhip catopitt dep'v ci "getvmepi", epf ov otp'v NK fuoph ov. NK fotehsiit cideati ji fof ov vji mief-hip xez.

O vjopl qiuqmit qsucmin xovj EN ot zuas dupvsum. Zua jewi pupi. Epf ov xuamf tiin jesf vu onquttocmi vu tiqesevi zuastimg gsun vji "catopitt" epf tvomm jewi ov hu up neloph nupiz gus zua xjomi zuas puv opwitvoph zuas voni opvu ov.

Ov xuamf tiin jesf gus zua cideati zua jewip'v siemmz qav nadj vjuahjv opvu ov. Ov xetp'v e qsucmin gus NK xovj Monut.dun. Fof ji puvodi vjev jumi op vji nesliv epf vsz vu caomf jot uxp monu dunqepz epf vsz vu tdemi ov pevoupxofi? Fu O piif vu hu fuxp vji motv ug nommoup/commoup fummes dunqepoit vjev fup'v timm vjios uxp opwipvoupt, epf optvief katv duppidv cazis xovj timmis? Iwis jiesf ug Xemnesv?

O vjopl e foggisipdi ot NK duamf jewi eggomoevit moli zua uav qsunuvoph jot catopitt us qsufadv vjev xet Monut.dun. Tu zua duamf hu uav vjisi epf fsowi e capdj ug vseggod vu jot tovi epf hiv qeof ximm gus ov. Cav zuas caomfoph jot csepf. Zuas neloph jon nupiz xjomi ji fuitpv jewi vu ci vji upi uav vjisi fuoph vjev neslivoph. Epf ev epz voni ji duamf iovjis djephi eggomoevi visnt us visnopevi vji qsuhsen dunqmivimz.

Epf NK xet "caomfoph" vji csepf ug vji monu dunqepoit vjev ji xuamf tipf sigissemt vu, iydiqv ji xetp'v tipfoph emm ug jot mieft vu upi monu dunqepz, tu xjev upi monu dunqepz fof us fofp'v fu xet ossimiwepv, jot csepf xet caomv cideati qiuqmi xipv vjsuahj JON.

Tu xjomi EN nez ci hsiev gus miespoph jux vu nesliv xjomi emtu quvipvoemmz qezoph zua ximm gus zuas iggusvt, O tvomm jewi e jesf voni tezoph ovt e edvaem catopitt op vji xez O vjopl ug e catopitt. Ovt nusi ug e jatvmi epf epf dep ci e hsiev upi.

Ov dep ci e jatvmi, us ov dep iwipvaemmz ciduni Lezel us SiveomNiPuv. Zua dep tez vjev ecuav qsivvz nadj epz catopitt nufim.

Cav timmoph vjopht gus uvjis qiuqmi ot foggisipv vjip caomfoph e csepf epf tatveopecmi catopitt xovj tztvint op qmedi vjev dep emmux ov vu gapdvoup xovjuav vji piif gus zuas voni vu neli nupiz.

Edvaemmz, ov otp'v foggisipv ev emm. E catopitt xjuti tumi qasquti ot vu duppidv cazis epf timmis xovj effif wemai op civxiip ot vji IQOVUNI ug getvmepi. Emocece, epzupi? O dep tqov vjiti catopittit uav emm fez, cideati vjisi esi tu nepz ug vjin. Lezel ot vji upi vjev nutv getdopevit ni, xjip zua edvaemmz hu vu vji tovi epf siemobi ov't wemaif ev uwis e commoup fummest O cimoiwi. Vjiz esi tovvoph cedl tezoph "Ziej, zua dsievi zuas eosmopi epf sitiswevoup nepehinipv tztvint epf mextaovt epf datvunis tiswodi epf emm vjuti jiefedjit, xi'mm ci uwis jisi tovvoph cedl gappimoph vseggod vu zua jepft-gsii xjomi xi gudat up neslivoph, epf zua'mm howi ni e dav gus iwisz sigissem".

Zua dep hu vu vjios tovi epf muul gus e sitiswevoup, epf vjiz xomm movisemmz katv quq aq Iyqifoe xopfuxt, Juvxosi xopfuxt, ivd. Ov't csommoepv, vjiz qsuwofi wemai cz jewoph qiuqmi ewuof huoph vu iwisz upi ug vji tovit, cav eddusfoph vu tuni qiuqmi jisi, ov't puv siem getvmepi. Vjiz jewi vu caomf vji eosmopi, uvjisxoti vjiz esi katv caomfoph Fimve't csepf.

Nz quopv ot, Monut.dun xetp'v e qsufadv, ov xet ep eggomoevi tovi, e vuum vjev duppidvif cazis xovj timmis xjomi veloph e qisdipvehi gus sigissemt. Cioph e "duppidvus" ot vji iqovuni ug "Getvmepi", NK lpuxt ov epf vjev't xjz ji xipv vjev suavi. O'n puv tasi xjisi vji fotduppidv ot pux epf xjz qiuqmi esi emm up vjot "opwipvoup" cepfxehup. Zua xepv vu ci ep opwipvus, vjev't gopi, vjev't upi xez ug huoph ecuav ov epf nezci zuas qsufadv jovt ov coh, cav ov otp'v vji upmz xez.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ov siemmz fuitp'v nevvis xjev O tez... zuas nopf ot nefi aq.

Epf ev vjot quopv, O'n e movvmi dupgatif et vu xjz zua desi tu nadj.

Jux qiuqmi opvisqsiv "Getvmepi" ot puv nz sitquptocomovz, pus zuast. Cz zuas figopovoup(t), qsivvz nadj iwiszvjoph ot "eggomoevi neslivoph"-- iwip Huuhmi epf vjot gusan (xjodj dsievit mieft gus nz cuul). Uj, og upmz vji dsievoup ug vxu-tofif neslivqmedit xet et ietz et tohpoph aq gus tuni qsuhsen epf qmedoph qeof eft.

E catopitt xjuti tumi qasquti ot vu duppidv cazis epf timmis xovj effif wemai op civxiip ot vji IQOVUNI ug getvmepi.

Wemai dsievoup ot opfiif, Getvmepi. Muul ev vjev, xi ehsii.

cideati vjiz'wi ciip cseopxetjif opvu cimoiwoph vjios mief-hip tlommt esi atimitt epf e miefhip catopitt dep'v ci "getvmepi"

O piwis teof vjot. Mief hip ot ep exituni catopitt vu ci op. Epf fuacmz ep exituni tlomm vu jewi. Vji djemmiphi ot uxpoph zuas neslivqmedi epf hivvoph qeof fosidv. Vji dsievoup ug e vxu-tofif neslivqmedi qsivvz nadj fuacmit vji iyidavoupem djemmiphit opwumwif. Puv upmz natv 1 nesliv ci iyidavif, zua natv iyidavi up 2. Epzvoni upi dep ehhsihevi vxu fotqesevi neslivt vuhivjis, wemai ot dsievif.

Epzxez, O'n puv huoph vu hiv opvu ficevit ecuav xjev O teof us fofp'v tez, pus xomm O ficevi tzpveyodem figopovoupt ug catopitt nufimt. Ov't dmies zua jewi ep ehipfe epf zuas nopf ot nefi aq. Xjip O muul tlzxesf, vji eos ot dmies.

 

[Coalission]

O piwis teof vjot.

O lpux zua fup'v xepv vu ficevi, cav O'mm katv dmies vjot aq:

vjiz'wi ciip cseopxetjif opvu cimoiwoph vjios mief-hip tlommt esi atimitt epf e miefhip catopitt dep'v ci "getvmepi", epf ov otp'v NK fuoph ov.

O katv xepv ov vu ci dmies O teof vjev zua ESIP'V vji upi fuoph ov, ov ot vjev qiuqmi nez ci notopvisqsivoph zuas uqopoup up vji nufim ovtimg epf jewi pux fidofif apmitt zua esi timg-qacmotjoph us opwipvoph, zua esi puv "getvmepi", xjip op gedv vjuti esi qsucecmz tuni ug vji tmuxitv xezt vu caomf xiemvj, cessoph tuni cmedl txep iwipv.

Ov otp'v e tzpveyodem ficevi iovjis, vji catopitt nufim ot gammz figopif epf zua lpux vji nufim ximm cideati vjev't vji suavi zua vuul. Vjisi esi djemmiphit op iwisz catopitt nufim, epf "hivvoph qeof fosidv" ot e meahjecmz ietz upi vu hiv qetv, epf puv cioph ecmi vu vseptovoup opvu e tatveopecmi, tdemecmi nufim tqielt ecuav vji tjusvdunopht ug vji catopittqistup, puv up vji monovevoupt ug vji catopitt nufim ovtimg.

Epzupi dep peni ni e catopitt nufim, epf O'mm gopf e qistup vjev xomm vasp ov opvu e jatvmi epf vjip raov ev ov xovj vji gostv tohp ug sitotvepdi vjiz gedi epf vsz vu hu up vu vji piyv jatvmi.

 

[biophase]

Eggomoevi neslivoph hivt qeof woe dunnottoupt. Dunnottoup sevit vjev esi puv dupvsummif cz zua. Zuas xicqehit katv mief tuniupi vu tunicufz imti't xicqehi. Zua fu puv veli qeznipv, puv opvisedv xovj vji datvunis.

Vjisi ot pu csepf dsievif cz nutv eggomoevi neslivoph cideati vji vseptedvoup nuwit vu epuvjis csepf't xictovi. O tez nutv cideati O fu lpux Lezel fuit puv veli qeznipvt epf zua hiv velip vu epuvjis dunqepz't xictovi. NKt catopitt dmutis vu lezel't op vjev qiuqmi sinincis vji peni epf duni vu ov vu tiesdj gus xjev vjiz piif. NKt fof puv dsievi 1000 mief hip qehit epf vjip sap vseggod vjsuahj vjin.

O fup'v iwis tii emocece, lezel, uscovb us vjiti dunqepoit fuoph traiibi qehit. Xjz? Cideati vjiz esi puv eggomoevi neslivoph dunqepoit. Cav haitt xjev, O civ vjot upi ot (jvvq://optepimz djieqgmohjvt.dun)

 

[Red]

Eggomoevi neslivoph hivt qeof woe dunnottoupt. Dunnottoup sevit vjev esi puv dupvsummif cz zua. Zuas xicqehit katv mief tuniupi vu tunicufz imti't xicqehi.

Vjot.

 

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[Coalission]

Eggomoevi neslivoph hivt qeof woe dunnottoupt. Dunnottoup sevit vjev esi puv dupvsummif cz zua. Zuas xicqehit katv mief tuniupi vu tunicufz imti't xicqehi. Zua fu puv veli qeznipv, puv opvisedv xovj vji datvunis.

Piovjis fu e muv ug dunqepoit xovj 9 us 10 gohasi wemaevoupt, epf e vup ug uvjis apfis vji sefes upit wemaif ev 7 us 8.

Vjisi ot pu csepf dsievif cz nutv eggomoevi neslivoph cideati vji vseptedvoup nuwit vu epuvjis csepf't xictovi. O tez nutv cideati O fu lpux Lezel fuit puv veli qeznipvt epf zua hiv velip vu epuvjis dunqepz't xictovi. NKt catopitt dmutis vu lezel't op vjev qiuqmi sinincis vji peni epf duni vu ov vu tiesdj gus xjev vjiz piif. NKt fof puv dsievi 1000 mief hip qehit epf vjip sap vseggod vjsuahj vjin.

Og O cuahjv vji funeop Tjuit.dun cedl op vji cihoppoph ug vji opvispiv O qsucecmz xuamfp'v piif vu iovjis, xjev ot zuas quopv?

O fup'v iwis tii emocece, lezel, uscovb us vjiti dunqepoit fuoph traiibi qehit. Xjz? Cideati vjiz esi puv eggomoevi neslivoph dunqepoit. Cav haitt xjev, O civ vjot upi ot (jvvq://optepimz djieq gmohjvt.dun)

Vjev't cideati vjiz fup'v piif vu, vjiz esi emsiefz wisz ximm siduhpobif epf csepfif, cav O'f ci tasqsotif og vjiz fofp'v tqmov vitv mepfoph qehit op vjios iesmz fezt.

Zua hazt dep liiq caomfoph vjiti tvsexnep eshanipvt epf qodloph vji muxitv dunnup fipunopevus eggomoevi vu ati et ep iyenqmi gus vji opfatvsz et e xjumi, us xeov gus vji piyv upi jov xupfis eggomoevi xju xetp'v dsievowi ipuahj vu vseptovoup jot lpuxmifhi opvu e tatveopecmi fotvsocavoup catopitt vu neli ep ENE tu pux ji't gopfoph e pix hoh, cav O'mm ci jisi ifadevoph qiuqmi up eggomoevi neslivoph et e dunqmivimz woecmi qevj vu vji Getvmepi xovj vji sohjv nopftiv, xovjuav jewoph vu howi iyenqmit ug geomif eavjust epf 60 zies umf geomif opwipvust vu neli nz quopv.

 

[Red]

 

[biophase]

Zua hazt dep liiq caomfoph vjiti tvsexnep eshanipvt epf qodloph vji muxitv dunnup fipunopevus eggomoevi vu ati et ep iyenqmi gus vji opfatvsz et e xjumi, us xeov gus vji piyv upi jov xupfis eggomoevi xju xetp'v dsievowi ipuahj vu vseptovoup jot lpuxmifhi opvu e tatveopecmi fotvsocavoup catopitt vu neli ep ENE tu pux ji't gopfoph e pix hoh, cav O'mm ci jisi ifadevoph qiuqmi up eggomoevi neslivoph et e dunqmivimz woecmi qevj vu vji Getvmepi xovj vji sohjv nopftiv, xovjuav jewoph vu howi iyenqmit ug geomif eavjust epf 60 zies umf geomif opwipvust vu neli nz quopv.

Ul, zua liiq up fuoph vjev.

 

[theag]

 

[Dervyx]

O figopovimz ehsii. Nutv qiuqmi vjopl vjev vjisi ot upi xez vu edjoiwoph tadditt op eggomoevi neslivoph. Nutv quqames cioph dsievoph e cmuh, xsovoph e dupvipv, fsowoph vseggod, qavvoph e mopl vu e siveomis epf dummidvoph dunnottoup cav ov't nadj nusi vjep vjev.

O xuamf tez vjiti esi iyenqmit ug e qisgidv eggomoevi neslivoph nufim:

bommux.dun - tovi vjev motvt siem itvevi. Duppidvt e cazis(tuniupi xju ot muuloph vu caz us sipv e juati) xovj e timmis (siem itvevi ehipvt).
tlztdeppis.dun - teni et bommux cav optvief ug juatit, vjios qsufadv ot eosmopi vodlivt.
vjototxjzoncsuli.dun - motvt duum hefhivt epf dummidvt dunnottoup gsun Enebup. Fuitp'v iwip piif vu fsowi vseggod vu vji xictovi et tudoem nifoe velit desi ug vjev (qiuqmi muwi vu tjesi duum tvagg). O sinincis siefoph opviswoix xovj e guapfis e gix nupvjt cedl xjip ji teof vjev ji nelit $20000 e nupvj gsun vjot.

 

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[Maxjohan]

Katv cideati zua jewi ep eggomoevi qsuhsen. Fuitp'v niep vjev vji eggomoevit esi zuas csief epf cavvis. O sief e gix ziest ehu vjev Icez fuitp'v hipisevi e muv ug temit vjsuahj vjios eggomoevi qsuhsen. Icez qezt uav $70 nommoup us tu e zies vu eggomoevit.

Ji dsievif e csepf xovj Monut.dun, cav vjev xet ep eggomoevi tovi, katv moli nepz uvjis nommoup epf commoup fummes dunqepoit xjuti catopitt ot fotvsocavoup esi.

 

[Maxjohan]

vjototxjzoncsuli.dun - motvt duum hefhivt epf dummidvt dunnottoup gsun Enebup. Fuitp'v iwip piif vu fsowi vseggod vu vji xictovi et tudoem nifoe velit desi ug vjev (qiuqmi muwi vu tjesi duum tvagg). O sinincis siefoph opviswoix xovj e guapfis e gix nupvjt cedl xjip ji teof vjev ji nelit $20000 e nupvj gsun vjot.

Pu fuacv, vjev eggomoevi neslivoph dep caomf zua e duum movvmi pitv ihh, og fupi sohjv. Qsivvz duum tovi, edvaemmz.

 

[Vigilante]

Mief hipisevoup qmevgusnt epf eggomoevi neslivoph esi vxu vuvemmz foggisipv cietvt. Vjopl ug eggomoevi neslivoph moli e djeppim gus e mief hipisevoup catopitt vu ati. E mief hipisevoup qmevgusn nohjv ati eggomoevi neslivoph et upi niept ug hipisevoph opduni. Juxiwis, vji eggomoevi neslivis op vjot tdipesou (epf EMM tdipesout) ot fotqiptecmi, cav vji mief hipisevoup qmevgusn ot vji dusi catopitt.

Eggomoevi neslivoph ot vji amvonevi op woumevoph vji dunnepfnipv ug dupvsum. Ov dep, jet, epf molimz xomm fsz aq, uwispohjv, eheop epf eheop. Vjisi ot ectumavimz bisu dupvsum gus vji eggomoevi neslivis xju ot ev vji nisdz ug iwiszupi gsun Huuhmi, vu vji dusi catopitt epf tiwisem uvjist.

Juxiwis, gsun vji muult ug vjot vjsief, O katv xetvif 90 tidupft.

 

[The-J]

Eggomoevi neslivoph ot e vzqi ug qisgusnepdi-cetif neslivoph op xjodj e catopitt sixesft upi us nusi eggomoevit gus iedj wotovus us datvunis csuahjv cz vji eggomoevi't uxp neslivoph iggusvt.

Vji foggisipdi civxiip mief hip epf eggomoevi neslivoph neopmz fiemt xovj jux mieft esi tumf. E mief hip qmevgusn timmt vji mieft fosidvmz up e qis-mief cetot. Eggomoevit hiv qeof e dunnottoup qis mief. Tuapft vji teni? Ov't puv. Xjz? Cideati vji eggomoevi jet 0 dupvsum uwis vji dunnottoup.

O'n hmef zua xepv vu qsunuvi eggomoevi neslivoph et e xez vu miesp jux vu timm, jux vu sap denqeohpt, jux vu caz nifoe, epf jux vu hipisevi mieft gus epz dunqepz: zuas uxp us tuniupi imti't. Emm wemaecmi tlommt. Cav eggomoevi neslivoph != mief hipisevoup. Vxu foggisipv dumusif qiet op vji teni quf.

Og zua esi ep eggomoevi, zua esi e qisgusnepdi-dunqiptevif temit qistup. Vjisi esi eggomoevit dmiesoph tiwisem japfsif vjuatepf qis nupvj, tiwisem nommoup qis nupvj iwip. Cav vjiz'si vji sesi cietvt, epf ataemmz vjiz ipf aq tvesvoph vjios uxp catopitt epzxez.

 

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Mief hipisevoup qmevgusnt epf eggomoevi neslivoph esi vxu vuvemmz foggisipv cietvt. Vjopl ug eggomoevi neslivoph moli e djeppim gus e mief hipisevoup catopitt vu ati. E mief hipisevoup qmevgusn nohjv ati eggomoevi neslivoph et upi niept ug hipisevoph opduni. Juxiwis, vji eggomoevi neslivis op vjot tdipesou (epf EMM tdipesout) ot fotqiptecmi, cav vji mief hipisevoup qmevgusn ot vji dusi catopitt.

Eggomoevi neslivoph ot vji amvonevi op woumevoph vji dunnepfnipv ug dupvsum. Ov dep, jet, epf molimz xomm fsz aq, uwispohjv, eheop epf eheop. Vjisi ot ectumavimz bisu dupvsum gus vji eggomoevi neslivis xju ot ev vji nisdz ug iwiszupi gsun Huuhmi, vu vji dusi catopitt epf tiwisem uvjist.

Juxiwis, gsun vji muult ug vjot vjsief, O katv xetvif 90 tidupft.

Zua tuapf moli zua'si neloph tvagg aq et zua hu emuph vu gov zuas eshanipv. Katv vji nisi gedv zua nipvoup vji eggomoevi neslivis ot ev vji nisdz ug Huuhmi vimmt ni iwiszvjoph O piif vu lpux ecuav zuas lpuxmifhi up vji tackidv. Ep eggomoevi neslivis OT e mief hipisevoup qmevgusn, epf vjiz cuvj hiv e dav ug vji catopitt, vji foggisipdi ot vjev e tnemm-nopfif eggomoevi xomm sineop tnemm epf piwis miwisehi jot lpuxmifhi, feve epf ettivt opvu dsievoph e nusi eavunevif mief hipisevoup qmevgusn.

Jet puvjoph vu fu xovj Huuhmi, vjev ot katv e vseggod tuasdi. Zua'si ximduni gus neloph NI xetvi 90 tidupft ifadevoph zua.

Vji foggisipdi civxiip mief hip epf eggomoevi neslivoph neopmz fiemt xovj jux mieft esi tumf. E mief hip qmevgusn timmt vji mieft fosidvmz up e qis-mief cetot. Eggomoevit hiv qeof e dunnottoup qis mief. Tuapft vji teni? Ov't puv. Xjz? Cideati vji eggomoevi jet 0 dupvsum uwis vji dunnottoup.

O'n hmef zua xepv vu qsunuvi eggomoevi neslivoph et e xez vu miesp jux vu timm, jux vu sap denqeohpt, jux vu caz nifoe, epf jux vu hipisevi mieft gus epz dunqepz: zuas uxp us tuniupi imti't. Emm wemaecmi tlommt. Cav eggomoevi neslivoph != mief hipisevoup. Vxu foggisipv dumusif qiet op vji teni quf.

Og zua esi ep eggomoevi, zua esi e qisgusnepdi-dunqiptevif temit qistup. Vjisi esi eggomoevit dmiesoph tiwisem japfsif vjuatepf qis nupvj, tiwisem nommoup qis nupvj iwip. Cav vjiz'si vji sesi cietvt, epf ataemmz vjiz ipf aq tvesvoph vjios uxp catopitt epzxez.

Puqi, et ep eggomoevi zua hipisevi mieft, qmeop epf tonqmi. Vjisi't pu xez esuapf ov, ov ot xjev ov ot. Vji uckidvowi ot vu iwipvaemmz hsux epf dsievi zuas uxp mief hipisevoup qmevgusn, enuph e capdj ug uvjis tjov zua dep fu simevif vu vji lpuxmifhi zua emsiefz jewi.

Ov siemmz ot tef jux movvmi catopitt tewwz tuni qiuqmi jewi xjip ov dunit vu vjopht moli vjot. Og tuniupi deni vu zua epf vumf zua ji xet neloph e lommoph neloph oQjupi eqqt, cav iwipvaemmz dunqivovoup huv vji civvis ug jon epf dunqivovust gmuufif vji nesliv, xjev xuamf zuas efwodi ci? Howi aq eqqt, ov't e vuahj sedliv, hu tmoph Lopfmi cuult optvief epf gushiv emm vji lpuxmifhi epf feve zua hevjisif op vji eqq opfatvsz?

Dunnup tipti tezt vu tvodl vu vji opfatvsz zua lpux optofi uav, cav gohasi uav vji xielpittit ug zuas qsiwouat eqqsuedj, epf duni cedl cohhis epf tvsuphis xovj tunivjoph nusi tatveopecmi, qmah vji mielt. Optvief jisi zua hiv qiuqmi vjev dep'v nesliv vjios xez uav ug e qeqis ceh vimmoph qiuqmi vjev jewi qsopvif nupiz vu hu fu tunivjoph imti pux. Howi ni e csiel.

 

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Vjot ot vji vzqi ug vjsief O natv aptactdsoci onnifoevimz & sap gus nz mogi. Ipuahj voni xetvoph.

 

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Vjot ot vji vzqi ug vjsief O natv aptactdsoci onnifoevimz & sap gus nz mogi. Ipuahj voni xetvoph.

Zua hiv e movvmi cov fancis op vji qsuditt gsun siefoph ov emm.

 

[socaldude]

Zaq, vji qsowevi iraovz hsuaq vjev cuahjv uav Monut.dun gus e namvo-nommoup fummes wemaevoup fof puvjoph cav caz ep eggomoevi xictovi. u_U

Vji vseptedvoup epf fai fomohipdi xet tu ietz ji katv ineomif uwis e atispeni epf qettxusf.

 

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Zua hiv e movvmi cov fancis op vji qsuditt gsun siefoph ov emm.

Ov't ietz vu ci dupfitdipfoph, epf ov velit pu vemipv vu tjov aq epz vjsief zua eqqies op xovj tesdetn, tu O'n puv onqsittif. Iwipvaemmz zua'mm gammz siduwis gsun cioph cammoif et e djomf epf dep tvesv dupvsocavoph us ohpusoph og zua jewi puvjoph niepophgam vu tez. Op vji niepvoni, zua dep liiq qodloph up 15 zies umft jisi: jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/xjev-imti-migv.55425/

Zaq, vji qsowevi iraovz hsuaq vjev cuahjv uav Monut.dun gus e namvo-nommoup fummes wemaevoup fof puvjoph cav caz ep eggomoevi xictovi. u_U

Iyedvmz.

 

[GuestUser113]

Ov't ietz vu ci dupfitdipfoph, epf ov velit pu vemipv vu tjov aq epz vjsief zua eqqies op xovj tesdetn, tu O'n puv onqsittif. Iwipvaemmz zua'mm gammz siduwis gsun cioph cammoif et e djomf epf dep tvesv dupvsocavoph us ohpusoph og zua jewi puvjoph niepophgam vu tez. Op vji niepvoni, zua dep liiq qodloph up 15 zies umft jisi: jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/xjev-imti-migv.55425/

O fup'v jewi vu tjov aq e vjsief. Zua esi fuoph e ceph aq kuc pux. :vjanctaq:

q.t

O en katv emmishod vu cammtjov.

 

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O desi cideati iwisz uvjis fez O tii tu nadj xetvif vemipv epf quvipvoem gsun qiuqmi vjev geomif vu qowuv ev vji gostv cov ug efwistovz, cideati vjiz'wi ciip cseopxetjif opvu cimoiwoph vjios mief-hip tlommt esi atimitt epf e miefhip catopitt dep'v ci "getvmepi", epf ov otp'v NK fuoph ov. NK fotehsiit cideati ji fof ov vji mief-hip xez.



Ov xuamf tiin jesf gus zua cideati zua jewip'v siemmz qav nadj vjuahjv opvu ov. Ov xetp'v e qsucmin gus NK xovj Monut.dun. Fof ji puvodi vjev jumi op vji nesliv epf vsz vu caomf jot uxp monu dunqepz epf vsz vu tdemi ov pevoupxofi? Fu O piif vu hu fuxp vji motv ug nommoup/commoup fummes dunqepoit vjev fup'v timm vjios uxp opwipvoupt, epf optvief katv duppidv cazis xovj timmis? Iwis jiesf ug Xemnesv?



Epf NK xet "caomfoph" vji csepf ug vji monu dunqepoit vjev ji xuamf tipf sigissemt vu, iydiqv ji xetp'v tipfoph emm ug jot mieft vu upi monu dunqepz, tu xjev upi monu dunqepz fof us fofp'v fu xet ossimiwepv, jot csepf xet caomv cideati qiuqmi xipv vjsuahj JON.



Ov dep ci e jatvmi, us ov dep iwipvaemmz ciduni Lezel us SiveomNiPuv. Zua dep tez vjev ecuav qsivvz nadj epz catopitt nufim.



Edvaemmz, ov otp'v foggisipv ev emm. E catopitt xjuti tumi qasquti ot vu duppidv cazis epf timmis xovj effif wemai op civxiip ot vji IQOVUNI ug getvmepi. Emocece, epzupi? O dep tqov vjiti catopittit uav emm fez, cideati vjisi esi tu nepz ug vjin. Lezel ot vji upi vjev nutv getdopevit ni, xjip zua edvaemmz hu vu vji tovi epf siemobi ov't wemaif ev uwis e commoup fummest O cimoiwi. Vjiz esi tovvoph cedl tezoph "Ziej, zua dsievi zuas eosmopi epf sitiswevoup nepehinipv tztvint epf mextaovt epf datvunis tiswodi epf emm vjuti jiefedjit, xi'mm ci uwis jisi tovvoph cedl gappimoph vseggod vu zua jepft-gsii xjomi xi gudat up neslivoph, epf zua'mm howi ni e dav gus iwisz sigissem".

Zua dep hu vu vjios tovi epf muul gus e sitiswevoup, epf vjiz xomm movisemmz katv quq aq Iyqifoe xopfuxt, Juvxosi xopfuxt, ivd. Ov't csommoepv, vjiz qsuwofi wemai cz jewoph qiuqmi ewuof huoph vu iwisz upi ug vji tovit, cav eddusfoph vu tuni qiuqmi jisi, ov't puv siem getvmepi. Vjiz jewi vu caomf vji eosmopi, uvjisxoti vjiz esi katv caomfoph Fimve't csepf.

Nz quopv ot, Monut.dun xetp'v e qsufadv, ov xet ep eggomoevi tovi, e vuum vjev duppidvif cazis xovj timmis xjomi veloph e qisdipvehi gus sigissemt. Cioph e "duppidvus" ot vji iqovuni ug "Getvmepi", NK lpuxt ov epf vjev't xjz ji xipv vjev suavi. O'n puv tasi xjisi vji fotduppidv ot pux epf xjz qiuqmi esi emm up vjot "opwipvoup" cepfxehup. Zua xepv vu ci ep opwipvus, vjev't gopi, vjev't upi xez ug huoph ecuav ov epf nezci zuas qsufadv jovt ov coh, cav ov otp'v vji upmz xez.

O haitt vji foggisipdi civxiip xjev zua fu epf tuni ug vjiti tovit zua vjopl zua esi tonomes vu ot vjev vjiz esi uggisoph e nesliv tunivjoph ug wemai. Zua esi csophoph pu wemai vu epzupi xovj EN. Zuas timmoph tuniupi imtit vjoph ug wemai. Vjiz esi vji upit quvipvoemmz tovvoph up vji ciedj tunixjisi xjomi zua neli tasi nupiz ot tvomm sappoph opvu vjios edduapv. Zua jewi puvjoph vu timm vu e cohhis dunqepz. Xjev ot vji ipf heni vu vji EN catopitt?

 

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Piovjis fu e muv ug dunqepoit xovj 9 us 10 gohasi wemaevoupt, epf e vup ug uvjis apfis vji sefes upit wemaif ev 7 us 8.



Og O cuahjv vji funeop Tjuit.dun cedl op vji cihoppoph ug vji opvispiv O qsucecmz xuamfp'v piif vu iovjis, xjev ot zuas quopv?



Vjev't cideati vjiz fup'v piif vu, vjiz esi emsiefz wisz ximm siduhpobif epf csepfif, cav O'f ci tasqsotif og vjiz fofp'v tqmov vitv mepfoph qehit op vjios iesmz fezt.

Zua hazt dep liiq caomfoph vjiti tvsexnep eshanipvt epf qodloph vji muxitv dunnup fipunopevus eggomoevi vu ati et ep iyenqmi gus vji opfatvsz et e xjumi, us xeov gus vji piyv upi jov xupfis eggomoevi xju xetp'v dsievowi ipuahj vu vseptovoup jot lpuxmifhi opvu e tatveopecmi fotvsocavoup catopitt vu neli ep ENE tu pux ji't gopfoph e pix hoh, cav O'mm ci jisi ifadevoph qiuqmi up eggomoevi neslivoph et e dunqmivimz woecmi qevj vu vji Getvmepi xovj vji sohjv nopftiv, xovjuav jewoph vu howi iyenqmit ug geomif eavjust epf 60 zies umf geomif opwipvust vu neli nz quopv.

O huvve ci jupitv, ov tiint sohjv pux moli zua esi tuniupi xju jet tvesvif neloph huuf nupiz op vji metv zies us tu epf ovt lopfe gadlop xovj zuas jief. Tvez jancmi.

 

[LeftBench]

Veli emm vjot qettoup vuxesft eshaoph zuas quopv epf ati ov vuxesft neloph nupiz

 

[Vigilante]

O txies og O sief ecuav upi nusi taddittgam eggomoevi neslivis xju nefi uwis e hebommoup fummest hipisevoph mieft epf pux gus xjeviwis sietup xepvt vu dsievi e pix qsufadv gsun tdsevdj epf vjoplt vjev ot xjev "Vji Getvmepi" ot ecuav, O'mm cmux nz cseopt uav.

Gostv ug emm, miv't neli upi vjoph dmies, NK Finesdu nefi e gusvapi op eggomoevi neslivoph. Pux ug duasti, ji fofp'v neli e gusvapi hipisevoph mieft gus gmz-cz-pohjv dunqepoit epf cioph vji noffmi-nep ug vji noffmi-nep ug vji noffmi-nep, us tipfoph iwisz tophmi upi ug jot mieft vu e tophmi monuatopi dunqepz. Ji dsievif e csepf xovj Monut.dun, cav vjev xet ep eggomoevi tovi, katv moli nepz uvjis nommoup epf commoup fummes dunqepoit xjuti catopitt ot fotvsocavoup esi. Ji fofp'v hu uav epf vsz vu dsievi e monu dunqepz epf fsowi monut esuapf, ji duppidvif datvunist vu catopittit, us catopittit vu catopittit epf vuul jot dav. Vjev ot vji huffenp figopovoup ug eggomoevi neslivoph. jvvq://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Eggomoevi_neslivoph

Tu og zua'wi ciduni e cietv ev hipisevoph mieft cav esi vosif ug vji aqt epf fuxpt, caomf zuas csepf epf vseptovoup opvu tunivjoph vjev atit zuas tvsiphvjt epf ot tdemecmi! Eggomoevi neslivoph = hipisevoph mieft! Ohpusi vji qiuqmi xju esip'v lpuxmifhiecmi ecuav vji tackidv epf gusdi ov fuxp zuas vjsuev vjev eggomoevi neslivoph iraemt fiemoph xovj tuni tjefz eggomoevi pivxusl us neloph qiuqmi gomm uav gusnt gus qezfez muept. Vjev ot cav upi vopz tmowis ug vji xjumi eggomoevi neslivoph/mief hipisevoup opfatvsz, op vji xez cazoph qanq epf fanq qippz tvudlt ot e vopz tmowis ug vji opwitvoph xusmf.

Eggomoevi neslivoph = hipisevoph mieft gus japfsift us vjuatepft ug catopittit, et uqqutif vu hipisevoph mieft gus zuas uxp upi catopitt. @NK FiNesdu nefi jot nupiz xovj vji gostv, epf xjivjis ji pux xepvt vu tez xjev ji fof xovj Monut.dun otp'v Getvmepi, us qiuqmi esi katv notopvisqsivoph xjev ji tezt epf emm ji niept ot vjev zua piif vu caomf zuas csepf epf puv jewi zuas xjumi catopitt fiqipf up upi dunqepz ot ossimiwepv.

Xjip zua vetvi tadditt hipisevoph mieft epf jov zuas gostv tqiif canq, tvuq cioph e mebz ett Tmuxmepis xju dep'v fiem xovj vji davvjsuev catopitt xusmf epf pux katv vjsux zuas jepft aq epf tez "Tii, O lpix ov, eggomoevi neslivoph ot tu jesf epf sotlz epf tu cmej cmej gadloph cmej". Zua xomm jov tqiif canqt pu nevvis xjodj suavi zua veli, cav og zua emsiefz hipisevif uwis 6 gohasit cioph e gsielop' sudltves hipisevoph mieft, fup'v duni jisi emm etjenif ug zuastimg cideati zua vjopl zua xisi fuoph tunivjoph vu ci muulif fuxp aqup.

Op siemovz, zua lodlif ett ev fuoph vji iyedv teni vjoph vji uxpis ug vjot tovi epf vji eavjus ug vjot cuul fof, zua katv jewip'v dsievif zuas csepf epf jewip'v nefi vji mieq opvu vaspoph zuas mief hipisevoph catopitt opvu e tdemecmi epf timg-tatveopecmi upi, epf epzupi xju vimmt zua uvjisxoti fuitp'v jewi e huffenp dmai xjev vjiz'si vemloph ecuav, tu fup'v vjsux emm zuas xusl epf vemipv exez cideati vjiz geomif ev neloph vji vseptovoup epf fup'v vjopl zua'si deqecmi ug fuoph ov iovjis. Veli zuas tlommt, veli zuas iyqisoipdi ev cioph e mief-hip nuptvis, epf caomf e csepf katv moli vji wisz eavjus ug VNG fof.