MJ Demarco needs to clear the air on affiliate marketing once and for all.

[AndrewNC]

I was going to type out a detailed, logical response to the OP...but instead, I will post a nice picture of my trip to Rocky Mountain National Park.




...and now I will stir up controversy. By your definition, is Facebook an affiliate marketing model?

 

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[jockinbox]

show some respect

like Jefferson says "wise men entertain an idea without accepting them"

Listen & learn

If you don't agree with what he is saying then you reserve your right to your opinion

However, don't be a hater. Show respect to the great men.

 

[Formless]

'I don't agree, therefore, F*ck you.'

This has been the modus operandi of this thread, on both sides. Grow up. Because the answer is in the middle, and you know it.

 

[Vigilante]

It's okay for there to be absolutes. We live in a generation where everybody gets a trophy for participating. That doesn't mean that every opinion is equally valid. Sometimes, on some topics, there are right and wrong answers.

On this forum, unique from the rest the Internet generally, it is an open exchange of ideas and knowledge regarding business topics. However, not unlike the real world, respect is given where respect is due.

Generally, you don't walk into somebody's house, sit on their couch, put your feet up on the coffee table, telling them what their obligation to you is. This isn't the first time somebody has come in here trying to make a name for themselves by being a big shot and taking shots and MJ, his work, and his forum.

Regardless of your opinion on the OP, One must assume MJ knows a little bit more about the business he built then some rando on the Internet whose only source of information on the details of the company that MJ built came from what he read, as written by MJ. When MJ talks about the details of the business that he built and sold twice, it might be worthwhile to listen to his response.

 

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[KLaw]

It's okay for there to be absolutes. We live in a generation where everybody gets a trophy for participating. That doesn't mean that every opinion is equally valid. Sometimes, on some topics, there are right and wrong answers.

On this forum, unique from the rest the Internet generally, it is an open exchange of ideas and knowledge regarding business topics. However, not unlike the real world, respect is given where respect is due.

Generally, you don't walk into somebody's house, sit on their couch, put your feet up on the coffee table, telling them what their obligation to you is. This isn't the first time somebody has come in here trying to make a name for themselves by being a big shot and taking shots and MJ, his work, and his forum.

Regardless of your opinion on the OP, One must assume MJ knows a little bit more about the business he built then some rando on the Internet whose only source of information on the details of the company that MJ built came from what he read, as written by MJ. When MJ talks about the details of the business that he built and sold twice, it might be worthwhile to listen to his response.

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any "shots" at MJ by the OP. I did see a strong, defensive stance by all parties though. But, unlike the picture you painted above, I didn't see the OP coming into MJ's house and calling him a chump. But, maybe, due to my ignorance of these 2 subjects I may have missed it.

 

[jockinbox]

Regardless of your opinion on the OP, One must assume MJ knows a little bit more about the business he built then some rando on the Internet whose only source of information on the details of the company that MJ built came from what he read, as written by MJ. When MJ talks about the details of the business that he built and sold twice, it might be worthwhile to listen to his response.

Using this logic only Jack is worth listening to

Be real now

Like you said, even MJ can be wrong

Whether OP is right or wrong is a different matter, however some people taking shots at Coallission don't have a business themselves

Take everything with a grain of salt, WHOMEVER it may be

 

[socaldude]

Limos.com had an affiliate program. So what does that make the affiliate program? Just another Limos.com? LMAO.

Here is something interesting: When an investor values your company he looks at HOW your revenue is generated. Most of the pros value affiliate revenue a little less than self-generated revenue. Food for thought. Just implying that there is a clear distinction.

God, I hate this thread. I'm gonna go eat dinner now.

 

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[Shades]

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any "shots" at MJ by the OP. I did see a strong, defensive stance by all parties though. But, unlike the picture you painted above, I didn't see the OP coming into MJ's house and calling him a chump. But, maybe, due to my ignorance of these 2 subjects I may have missed it.

Go back and re read.

This is a pretty clear shot to me.

"If I bought the domain Shoes.com back in the beginning of the internet I probably wouldn't need to either, what is your point?" Go back and read that post.

I just dont get what even brought this on in the first place.

I dunno, just seems like hes really confused over the difference between owning a actual valuable entity and marketing someone elses stuff for commission.

 

[KLaw]

Go back and re read.

This is a pretty clear shot to me.

"If I bought the domain Shoes.com back in the beginning of the internet I probably wouldn't need to either, what is your point?" Go back and read that post.

I just dont get what even brought this on in the first place.

I dunno, just seems like hes really confused over the difference between owning a actual valuable entity and marketing someone elses stuff for commission.

Nah. I'd rather catch up on Vick's update. Better use of my time.

 

[Vigilante]

Take everything with a grain of salt, WHOMEVER it may be

That is where you and I differ. There are many people here whose opinions I deeply respect.

 

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[SeanKelly]

I swear if I read about one more successful affiliate marketer who made over a gazillion dollars generating leads and now for whatever reason wants to create a new product from scratch and thinks that is what "The Fastlane" is about, I'll blow my brains out.

First of all, let's make one thing clear, MJ DeMarco made a fortune in affiliate marketing. Now of course, he didn't make a fortune generating leads for fly-by-night companies and being the middle-man of the middle-man of the middle-man, or sending every single one of his leads to a single limousine company. He created a brand with Limos.com, but that was an affiliate site, just like many other million and billion dollar companies whose business is distribution are. He didn't go out and try to create a limo company and drive limos around, he connected customers to businesses, or businesses to businesses and took his cut. That is the goddamn definition of affiliate marketing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_marketing

So if you've become a beast at generating leads but are tired of the ups and downs, build your brand and transition into something that uses your strengths and is scalable! Affiliate marketing = generating leads! Ignore the people who aren't knowledgeable about the subject and force it down your throat that affiliate marketing equals dealing with some shady affiliate network or making people fill out forms for payday loans. That is but one tiny sliver of the whole affiliate marketing/lead generation industry, in the way buying pump and dump penny stocks is a tiny sliver of the investing world.

Affiliate marketing = generating leads for hundreds or thousands of businesses, as opposed to generating leads for your own one business. @MJ DeMarco made his money with the first, and whether he now wants to say what he did with Limos.com isn't Fastlane, or people are just misinterpreting what he says and all he means is that you need to build your brand and not have your whole business depend on one company is irrelevant.

When you taste success generating leads and hit your first speed bump, stop being a lazy a$$ Slowlaner who can't deal with the cutthroat business world and now just throw your hands up and say "See, I knew it, affiliate marketing is so hard and risky and so blah blah F*cking blah". You will hit speed bumps no matter which route you take, but if you already generated over 6 figures being a freakin' rockstar generating leads, don't come here all ashamed of yourself because you think you were doing something to be looked down upon.

In reality, you kicked a$$ at doing the exact same thing the owner of this site and the author of this book did, you just haven't created your brand and haven't made the leap into turning your lead generating business into a scalable and self-sustainable one, and anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't have a goddamn clue what they're talking about, so don't throw all your work and talent away because they failed at making the transition and don't think you're capable of doing it either. Take your skills, take your experience at being a lead-gen monster, and build a brand just like the very author of TMF did.

You look high in your profile picture... were you high when you made this post?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

it seems right now like you are someone who has started making good money in the last year or so and its kinda F*ckin with your head

Yup. He knows everything now, including the inside scoop on the inner workings of a company I sold twice and ran for 10 years. Kid makes some money and now he figures he knows what's best, including the rebranding of my brand to fit his modus operandi.

Just so we're clear: If anyone is making money, it's affiliate marketing. Google? AM. Travelocity? AM. 99Designs? AM, they take a cut! My website that dealt in used limos? AM! This forum? AM! That shit I just took on the toilet? AM!

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any "shots" at MJ by the OP.

Calling me out that I "need to clear the air once and for all" implies that I'm hiding something, or being deceptive in some manner.

If I bought the domain Shoes.com back in the beginning of the internet I probably wouldn't need to either, what is your point?

This implies that having a generic domain (and "the luck" of being able to buy it) equals instant success, traffic, or something else that comes freely with no effort. And you know what? It shows your ignorance and your infantile breadth of business experience which is about, what, 9 months?

Frankly I'm getting tired of your endless rants here about AM and how it can cure the world of cancer, Ebola, and autism. If you don't like Fastlane's definitives on affiliate marketing, you have many choices available to you. One of them is not to walk into my house and try to change the theology. If you don't like the theology, ignore it, discount it, or leave. Not everything in TMF needs to be agreed upon. Not everything I say needs to be agreed upon. And certainly not everything is absolute, black or white. 53+47 = 100 but so does 6+94.

The bottomline is I'm not going to deal with your internet dick erect with disrespect, arrogance, and ignorance. I don't walk into a Jewish synagogue and stand up on the pew holding up a bullhorn trying to convince the parishioners to convert to Messianic Jews.

So what does that make the affiliate program?

Since I'm an affiliate and I had 1000+ affiliates, that would make me actually an MLM! Perhaps that's the thread we should see next... "MJ needs to clear the air on MLMs once and for all!!"

As for this thread, I'm done with it and I'm done seeing it in my feed.

If you want to cog the brand wheels of other people and other companies, feel free. And continued success to you... I just hope it lasts longer than a Kardashian marriage.