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Regarding cell service, have you heard about cell phone signal boosters ?
Yes, that might help in some areas! And if you find a spot it isn't working you can try another location or reach out to the company for assistance if it's not helping at all. I was reading the reviews and I would definitely look into different antenna options based on the model of van or rv.

Hey thats not a bad idea, buying a piece of cheap land, sort of like a base camp, and work from there while avoiding rent and property taxes.
This is definitely a twist on being nomadic! If you find land that is already hooked up with water/electrical/septic or sewer then it is considerably less hassle. On the other hand, there are still tanks, land upkeep, and applicable bills/taxes. Worth consideration of public v. private v. personal property if you continue to pursue this idea.
 

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FFS everyone's situation is different.

The leap from Employee -> Full Time Entrepreneur is one of the hardest thing you can do, and there's no magic bullet. Living in a Van, Househacking, 2nd Job, Move to Thailand, AirBnB, Living with Parents, Get a Roomate, Save up Cash, Disowning your Children, Selling your Organs...

Honestly there's so many options that it makes my head spin.

There's only two goals for this transition.
-Spend MORE time on the business (so you can focus on growing it)
-Spend LESS time working for someone who owns your time.

Expenses can be part of that equation, but it doesn't have to.

Sure if you're spending less money you won't have to work as much and that gives you the time freedom to focus on business. But what you decide to do is unique to each person, and each path has their own downsides.

-> Good RE market and credit? Househack or AirBnb
-> Love your parents as much as sliced bread? Live a couple months there.
-> Job demands 100% of your mental focus? Get a job with lots of downtime.
-> Live somewhere expensive? Move.

I did a combo of #2 and #3. Had a tech support job for a web dev company. When we didn't have tickets or calls coming in, I worked on my business and read. This was for a little over a year and worked well for me.

Sometimes the simplest answer is right in front of you, and is also likely the least romantic.

What can you do so you can spend MORE time on the business and spend LESS time working for someone who owns your time? Examine your own situation and answer.

You need a strategy and a plan.
If this van stuff makes sense, go for it.
But nothing is the end-all, be-all.
 
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FFS everyone's situation is different.

The leap from Employee -> Full Time Entrepreneur is one of the hardest thing you can do, and there's no magic bullet. Living in a Van, Househacking, 2nd Job, Move to Thailand, AirBnB, Living with Parents, Get a Roomate, Save up Cash, Disowning your Children, Selling your Organs...

Honestly there's so many options that it makes my head spin.

There's only two goals for this transition.
-Spend MORE time on the business (so you can focus on growing it)
-Spend LESS time working for someone who owns your time.

Expenses can be part of that equation, but it doesn't have to.

Sure if you're spending less money you won't have to work as much and that gives you the time freedom to focus on business. But what you decide to do is unique to each person, and each path has their own downsides.

-> Good RE market and credit? Househack or AirBnb
-> Love your parents as much as sliced bread? Live a couple months there.
-> Job demands 100% of your mental focus? Get a job with lots of downtime.
-> Live somewhere expensive? Move.

I did a combo of #2 and #3. Had a tech support job for a web dev company. When we didn't have tickets or calls coming in, I worked on my business and read. This was for a little over a year and worked well for me.

Sometimes the simplest answer is right in front of you, and is also likely the least romantic.

What can you do so you can spend MORE time on the business and spend LESS time working for someone who owns your time? Examine your own situation and answer.

You need a strategy and a plan.
If this van stuff makes sense, go for it.
But nothing is the end-all, be-all.
You hit the nail on the head with those 2 goals, everyone's path is different but everyone tries to achieve those 2. It's interesting to see what kind of path other people have followed though.

For me, I need more time put into my fastlane projects and I just cannot seem to be able to do it having a while having a fulltime job as a developer. I mean I have tried (released a few apps out there) and while I have made passive income it just dried up after a year or so. In addition to that the less I spend (cheap car, no rent or very cheap rent etc) the more time I'll be able to put into projects

In an ideal world I wouldn't have to focus on reducing expenses, instead I can simply add passive income to my life but that is easier said than done. Expenses is the only variable that we can all control completely.

Wish I could get a job with a lot of downtime but that is not existent in the development world, unless you are dev ops or something like that.

Is your business eCommerce or digital service?

Thanks for the valuable input.
 

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I’m gonna say that all the things that come with living like that - hygiene, food, where to park, etc etc., are gonna be distracting and not conducive to focusing on a business. My biggest distraction would be the scenery and lifestyle itself - I’d be exploring, fishing or doing something besides sitting in my van on a laptop. Not to mention perception from other folks you’ll do business with - though that might be the case with what you’re doing, but my biggest bet is that you’ll get no more work done.

Why not drastically cut living expenses by renting a room somewhere, where you have amenities for hygiene, food prep, etc. on hand not requiring a lot of planning and distraction, and do freelance or part time work instead?

Let’s be honest about self discipline for a second - some of the folks on here executing the hardest and making the biggest strides, also have a 40 hour job.

Good luck!
 

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A small motorhome or travel trailer and a pickup. Set them up with a 250W or more solar panel system, good batteries, and a 1000W or larger invertor and you are set. There are plenty of free campgrounds. Stay at higher elevations in the summer and lower in the winter. You can't run air conditioning but there are thermostatically controlled fans you can install. You can buy signal boosters for your internet as well.

I do this a lot just for enjoyment. Love to travel the southwest. I have a great setup that allows me to get into the wide open areas of nature. Still have all the conveniences also.

I enjoy it so much that I just sold this trailer and bought a 39' diesel motorhome. Decked it out with 600W of solar. It even has a washer dryer combo unit.
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This is the only van I'd ever consider going the vanlife route in.

View: https://youtu.be/K-DblLmlOPM


View: https://youtu.be/U5_AZj1wrJ4


Mainly because it solves three pain points for me, I like a good long shower (endless shower) and I don't want to freeze to death in the winter (underfloor heating) And I hate beds by the back door (It's just lazy design that blocks the doors)
 

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Ha love this thread and have a bit of experience with this.

I ran out of money before and lived in a car...

I had just moved to New Zealand when I was younger and I had been working in Christchurch for a while. I thought Queenstown seemed like a more fun place to be so I packed up everything and moved down there to get a job. One week in I had blown all my money partying and had no job.

I ended up sleeping in a car for about 2/3 weeks. I would go to the local hostel in the morning and walk in like I was a guest. I could use the kitchen and also raid the "left behind" freebie bin. At night I would drive the car into this campground with the lights off. The owner lived in a house nearby and would never notice.

The only money I spent in those 2/3 weeks was on a few loaves of bread, a massive tub of peanut butter and some bananas. I still didn't get a job (I was really young and no one would hire me) and had to drive back to Christchurch with just a few dollars for gas. I remember freewheeling down every hill and driving like 80km the whole way to keep the revs low. Not even using the air conditioning and keeping the windows up for maximum mileage haha. I was that broke.

While the idea of living in a van is romantic and appeals to my inner "wilderness man" it is pretty rough. Especially if you are living in a van to save money, as opposed to someone who can afford to live in a proper van ha. I think focus on learning how to make more (like @Kak and @Andy Black are saying). Once you have more get the van and take weekends off to go travel.

There is no shortage of money out there so don't live in a van because you think you have to. Live in a van cause you have a business making plenty of money and it is fun to do on the side.
 

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Here's my YT channel if anyone wants to see my build. I started in October 2018.

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Watched your 2018 recap... glad to see you guys enjoying life and getting out there!

The cargo trailer is sweet!

I have dreams of converting a sprinter van one day.
 

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Similar related story, although this more so involves vagabonding.

Nice article. It has also made me realise that what Americans call vans, is very different to what the English do.

I like camping for a few days at a time, there is no way I would live like that full time. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
 

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Hey guys,

I've been thinking about going full time with my business instead of dedicating my best hours to my slowlane job, but I need to pay for the roof over my head plus vehicle expenses and food every month. What do you guys think about living in a vehicle in order to quit my job, cut expenses and do actual work on the business every day?

I'm a developer and I'm finding it very hard to come home after a long day of work and start coding websites & apps for my business. I tried waking up earlier but again 3 hours a day (max I could do efficiently without it affecting my slowlane job) is not enough time to get some of these development projects to a MVP state. My biggest concern is not feeling comfortable in a vehicle, but then that might be an additional help in forcing me to put the long hours to get out of that self imposed homelessness.

I know this does not apply to those with families but has anyone done it in the past successfully ?
For those who have experience, Is it harder to get a business going if you are living in a vehicle ?
Is it nonsense ? would it be better to move to the cheapest apartment in the cheapest state instead ?
Im loving your spirit brother and most regular people will never understand your idea. I once moved into a new city with just bus money and 50 south african rands. ($4) in US money. My parents said i was crazy but then i survived and made more progress in one year than in my previous 25 years.

I had no vehicle so i sheltered myself in my cousins apartment, sleeping on the floor in an old mattress. My biggest wake up call was when he refused to give me food and from that time the race was on.

I managed to build 12 studio apartments from nothing... Knowing that it is not a millionaire business and certainly not a fast lane but it gives me enough passive income to have time to pursue my millionaire dream.

Now im at that FTE point again! I need to make a drastic move in order for my website to take off. Im about to go crazy again and relocate... :happy: :happy: :happy:
 
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