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RANT Instagram Automation/Botting is the Worst way to grow your Account

Discussion in 'General Entrepreneur Discussion' started by Ziad, Nov 21, 2017.

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    Hello again ! Just a quick question! I’m just starting, I have 170 followers 180 likes (organic) What are your thoughts on creating 100k dm/engagement telegram groups in your same niche ? I saw this strategy, do you think it will increase on viral and show on the discovery (explore) part?
     
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    That's not enough to grow rapidly. But a good step forward.
     
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    I have grown my network of Influencers to 21 million followers. Viral posts really work and boost your sales like crazy guys. Automation is s*it compared to this!
     
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    I think automatic engagements can help to get organic followers.
     
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    Hello! I am currently on Igerslike automation and dm groups, but could you explain me what is a Influencers network? And how to growth it? Really appreciate your content bro!
     
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    Sorry if this is a silly question, but without hashtags or large follower bases, how are new accounts getting discovered?
     
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    The explore page and getting shoutouts/reposts
     
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    What determines if you'll get on the explore page?

    It seems like kind of a chicken/egg scenario.

    Do niche accounts get featured on the explore page?
     
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    Yes. On my third post ever it exploded and got 65,000 views. Very lucky. I think it depends on the people that you follow, posts you like. If you have an eye catching video in the same niche you might get put on there. I would only recommend 5 hashtags or you will eventually get shadowbanned on hashtags
     
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    Content scheduling + strong network influence + no spamming + no automation.
     
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    Maybe. But whenever I post a new instagram, I get a lot of comments from people using bots and I can always tell. Their comments are always super generic and don't fit in the context of what I've just posted. I certainly don't engage/follow these people back.
     
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    This is the point @Ziad is making, bots and fake engagement simply don't work in the medium to long term. Those trying to grow social media need to stop thinking about the numbers, and realize that a follower is a real person. A real person won't engage or connect to a spam bot message, they will do the opposite. You can focus on perfecting your copy to keep spamming people and trying to trick them into thinking a real person messaged them, or you can focus on creating genuine engagement between people.

    And one of the best ways is good old fashioned word of mouth. I get tagged in sports videos, funny memes, local news, all the time on my personal facebook. instead of meeting mates at the pub after work and talking sh*t about the days happenings we connect online more often than not now.

    lifes busy, jobs, businesses, relationships, kids... Pats and Jags are on right now and i've got half a dozen mates messaging me on WhatsApp and tagging me in social media content about the game, Bradys hand, the refs being in the pats pocket...

    All that content being created by sports pages and meme pages are connecting my friends and I, NFL memes for example on facebook have 3.6 million followers. They don't post ads or tricks to get followers, they pump out sh*t loads of NFL memes, up to date content. How they monetise that is up to them but if you have 3.6 million followers you have a massive market that might be driven to website hits, buying merchandise etc.
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Automated comments are super easy to spot these days. Any potential customer who owns a reputable brand will be able to see through it with ease and run away from your page immediately. This is what @DanWasDrunk is trying to say.

    Automation doesn't NOT help, but it definitely damages your page's reputation in the long run, especially if you're looking to make sales through Instagram.
     
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    I have figured out a way to further the use of influencer marketing on Instagram and help posts stay longer on Explore, getting a lot more views and much quicker growth!
     
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    Would like to hear more about that @Ziad!

    Adding symbols or words on your posts will make people click more when you're on the Explore page. Although this can damage the look of your feed.
     
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    Using a larger network of high AND low follow accounts to continue engaging with a post that is already on explore helps keep the post on explore for much, much longer! I have a client for example, who averaged a gain around 4,300 followers before on every post that went viral. Now his average has gone up to 9,100 because the post stays on explore for over 2 days.

    Auto DMing can get you banned unless you know the safe zone for it, AKA the maximum number of DMs you can do in a day, per hour etc.
     
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    Any website developers? I have about 21 clients using this service now. Would love to launch an official website :)
     
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    Do you want me to link you in with a student? DM me some details if so.
     
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    I got connections for both if you want to PM me details/budget.

    No pressure though - just figured I’d reach out.
     
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