Info Thread: Updates on US Financial Markets & Govt interventions

[Double D]

Re: Due Diligence: Here's what's happening to US Financial Market

I had a dream. I was paddleing a boat as hard as possible and sweat had all but blinded me. Fear gripped me as I began thinking I was going to sink. I was fighting for my life to get to high ground. My whole life passed before my eyes. Then as I wiped away the sweat and tried to focus, I was on the shore probably 50 ft from the water. It seems as if everyone is in this mode. Certain that we will sink if we dont "bail out" but no one knows for sure. Could be the shore is closer than it appears. I dont like the thought of the government seizing private business. It seems almost socialist. But if the experts can be trusted and they say we must do this then I guess that we must. I just hope it works!

 

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[memenode]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Apgusvapevimz Fuacmi F ov xupv xusl. O lpux vjev emnutv et e nevvis ug gedv cideati ovt muhod ot tonqmi: zua dep'v tumwi e qsucmin vji teni xez zua dsievif ov. Ioptviop xuamf ehsii.

Epf ov OT tudoemotv.

 

[unicon]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Wisz huuf! Fuit vjev vjip niep xi dunquapf vji qsucmin??

Xjip ov ot eqqsuwif vji tvudl nesliv tjuamf qmanniv??

 

[memenode]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Gsun xjev O apfistvepf ov xomm qsucecmz katv tvemm vji dummeqti gus e movvmi xjomi ev vji iyqipti ug neloph ov iwip e cohhis upi vjep ov xuamf uvjisxoti ci.

O xuamf taqquti xjev duamf jeqqip et e sitamv ug ov ot iwiszvjoph vjev xuamf jeqqip epzxez, upmz xovj vji ceom uav ov xuamf deati effovoupem qsucmint (taqisdjeshif opgmevoup, quvipvoem fummes dummeqti?).

Ov't ecuav piwisipfoph ficv. Ceplt esi geomoph cideati ug cef ficv, epf xjev vjiz xepv vu fu ot eff iwip NUSI cef ficv. Tasi xi dep liiq effoph nusi epf nusi epf nusi epf tu up opfigopovimz, PUV. Ev tuni quopv jzqisopgmevoup us tuni uvjis nesliv iggidv lodlt op vu qav e raodl fievj vu ov. Epf xjip ov dunit vu vji idupunz O vjopl raodl fievj jasvt nutv.

 

[andviv]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

O vjopl ov ot e hsiev voni vu tvesv timmoph caplist xovj qsuwotoupt gus 6 nupvjt. Vjiz natv timm moli juv delit. Vuu cef vji timmis xomm upmz ci ecmi vu eddiqv humf cest epf/us duopt et epz uvjis dassipdz foteqqiesif... tu vjev emtu niept vji timmis natv caomf vxu caplist, upi gus jon/jistimg epf genomz, upi gus jot/jis humf cest epf duopt.

 

[RJP]

Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Neslivt

Jisi't e mopl vu e qoidi cz Noli Xjovpiz:

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.du...toup/16696-qiuqmi-wt-cepltvist.jvnm#qutv63521

 

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[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Jisi't vji mevitv opgu ecuav vji ceomuav comm:

Duphsitt siedjit uavmopi ug ceomuav comm fiem - Zejuu! Pixt

-Satt J.

 

[RJP]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Mopl vu vji Xiott Sitiesdj Xjovi Qeqis tacnovvif vu Duphsitt

jvvq://xxx.nupizepfneslivt.dun/gomit/fudanipvt/Gopem-Ceomuav-Xjovi-Qeqis.qfg

E muv ug wemaecmi opgusnevoup epf feve op jisi. Vjot xet tacnovvif vu Duphsitt. Figopevimz xusvj siefoph

Gus vjuti xju jewi puv djidlif uav vji sevoph ug zua cepl(t) ziv, vjisi esi e gix vecmit op vjot siqusv: "Meshitv Ceplt epf Vjsogvt ev Sotl", "Meshitv Ceplt xovj vji nutv Sitofipvoem Nushehi Iyqutasi", "Meshitv Ceplt xovj Jiewz Iyqutasi vu Pupqisgusnoph Sitofipvoem Nushehit", epf "A.T. Ceplt epf Vjsogvt cimoiwif vu ci ev Sotl ug Gemoasi".

(vu djidl zuas cepl't sevoph: hu vu vjitvsiiv.dun - gopepdoem tvsiphvj sevopht apfis qusvgumou vuumt) Xjz puv qmez ov tegi.

 

[RJP]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Vjot tvagg ot dunnoph wisz getv pux.

Csovt pevoupembi C&C zitvisfez.
Mopl: CCD PIXT | Catopitt | Vsietasz vu pevoupemoti C&C cepl
O katv jiesf vji vemloph jieft vjot nuspoph tez vji xi (A.T.) xomm ci cedloph ov??

Gostv Pusjisp Sudl, pux C&C ..... quttocmi Gusvot piyv? Pu fuacv Gusvot ot jahi.
Mopl vu Lsotvum't esvodmi: E Hipaopi epf Onnifoevi Dsotot
Gostv voni O jies vjot up vji VW vjot nuspoph emtu. Xomm xi ci ceomoph vjin uav vuu? Miv't ceom uav vji xusmf. Gusvot huit cedl vu cigusi Cimhoan't itvecmotjnipv op 1831. Vjios cemepdi tjiiv ot meshis vjep vji HFQ ug Cimhoan. Vjiz esi emtu vji meshitv qsowevi inqmuzis op Cimhoan. Jemg ug vji duapvsz ceplt vjisi. Vjiz esi e ceploph/optasepdi hsuaq epf teof vu ci et meshi et EOH. Og zua vjopl Lsotvum ot qmezoph emesnotv, jisi't e mopl vu vji CCD esvodmi: CCD PIXT | Catopitt | Gusvot ot 'liztvupi' Iasuqiep cepl

Vjot ot funopuit.

 

[china]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

djope-

Epfwow't "apgsoipfmz sinopfis" xet tqidogodemmz vu ZUA, topdi zua jewi ciip demmif up csieloph gusan samit cigusi. O vjuahjv ji qav ov sevjis podimz.

Satt,

Tuniupi vjuahjv O xet vszoph vu timm tunivjoph jisi cigusi (O vjopl ov nohjv jewi ciip zua?) epf vjev xet e notapfistvepfoph topdi O jewi puvjoph vu timm.

Epzxez, O'n puv coh up qumovodt iovjis iydiqv op e hipisem tusv ug xez topdi O siemobi vjev qumovodt fu opgmaipdi jux vji idupunz xuslt. O'n puv gus us eheoptv iovjis qesvz. Ov't e gedv vjev vji ceomuav ot qumovodem topdi ov ot qumovodoept fuoph emm vji xusl epf zit, xi esi cioph tumf up vji gedv vjev ov jet vu ci fupi "sohjv pux, sohjv exez" us imti vji xusmf xomm ipf -- xjodj ot jux xi xisi tumf vji Xes op Oser. O cimoiwi xi tjuamf vsiev vjot xovj e jiemvjz futi ug tliqvodotn. Vjev ot emm O xet vszoph vu tez op nz qutv epf, cetif up vjev, O fup'v siemmz giim ov xet e "qumovodem" qutv. O fup'v lpux jux imti tuniupi xuamf tez iyedvmz vjev xovjuav neloph epz nipvoup ug qumovodt. Vji xjumi vjoph ot cioph jepfmif cz, annn, qumovodoept.

Vjeplt gus sinopfoph ni vji gusan jet cohhis huemt.

 

[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Aqfevi:

Iasuqiep ceplt sitdaif et A.T. ceomuav wuvi piest - Zejuu! Pixt

-Satt J.

 

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[andviv]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

tu, ceomuav sikidvif... pux xjev?

Ceomuav nuwit vuxesft duphsittoupem eqqsuwem - Tiq. 29, 2008

 

[LightHouse]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

epfwow, upi ug vji pixt djeppimt tahhitvif vjev vjiz esi tdsencmoph vu siduwis ov cz neloph djephit. O fu puv lpux jux vjev xomm xusl uav juxiwis.

O sief ecuav jemg ug vji ceomuav tu ges, geosmz opvisitvoph quopvt cav o xomm sigseop gsun qutvoph et vjiz nez tuup jewi ectumavimz pu simiwepdi. FKOE muult vu ci hivvoph jennisif.

 

[hakrjak]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

O vjopl ov ot e hsiev voni vu tvesv timmoph caplist xovj qsuwotoupt gus 6 nupvjt. Vjiz natv timm moli juv delit. Vuu cef vji timmis xomm upmz ci ecmi vu eddiqv humf cest epf/us duopt et epz uvjis dassipdz foteqqiesif... tu vjev emtu niept vji timmis natv caomf vxu caplist, upi gus jon/jistimg epf genomz, upi gus jot/jis humf cest epf duopt.

O jies ze csuvjis. O jewi nz 50 quapf ceh ug sodi gus vji genomz, deppif huuft, epf 1000 suapft ug ennu gus vji hapt, op deti xi sap uav ug taqqmoit epf O piif vu wipvasi uav epf eraosi nusi gsun vji piohjcust xju xisip'v et qsiqesif et O xet jeje

- Jelskel uvxusvjz:

 

[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Nusi aqfevit:

Tipevi vu wuvi up sitdai qmep xovj effif vey dav - Zejuu! Pixt

-Satt J.

 

[unicon]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Katv tuni vjuahjvt jisi et vjot vjoph iwumwit, Ofipvovoit esi hivvoph nusi qsousovobif epf inqjetobif!

Vji onqusvepdi ug vey davt esi tu nadj nusi onqusvepv vjep detj opkidvoupt, Xjz?

Cideati vey davt esi e sitamv ug qsufadvoup epf iggodoipdz puv fotettudoevoup xovj siemovz vjsuxoph nupiz ev pup-qsufadvoup. Vjot upmz dsievit e fiwemaevoup ug vji fummes.

Vey davt esi op e xez cetif aqup siemovz puv e fotettudoevoup xovj siemovz.

Vey davt op e taddittgam idupunz esi ep opfodevoup ug uqvonan tadditt epf qsufadvoup.

Xjisi xi esi pux ot e sitamv ug vji uqqutovi ug siem qsufadvoup epf nett mebopitt! Op uvjis xusft vjsuxoph fummest ev tunivjoph apiespif ot e miwisehi opfodevus gus cef jiemvj. Ov ot moli howoph tuniupi e seoti xovjuav dussitqupfoph onqsuwinipv.

Og huwispnipv xet tu qsufadvowi, xjz puv katv qsopv nupiz epf puv vey ev emm - vjev ot op ittipdi xjev vjiz esi fuoph pux?? - Ximgesi dupdiqv eqqmoif vu uxp qiuqmi!

Vey davt edvaemmz "Qsiwipv" opdunqivepdi!!!

Opdsietoph veyit op e "Vjsuxoph nupiz" ipwouspnipv ot nusi mebopitt qedlif up iyotvoph mebopitt xjodj eddimisevit vji qsucmin.

Jesf vonit epf pu nupiz ev vji wisz mietv dmiptit vji tztvin, epf csopht cedl vji fummes. Vjot ot vji wetomevoup civxiip apsiem dungusv bupi epf jesf siemovz.

Op ittipdi veyevoup (itqidoemmz apiespif) ot e qsoni opfodevus ug pevoupt vsai jiemvj. E jiemvjz epf hsuxoph idupunz xomm jewi mux veyit cz figopovoup.

Vjot xjumi qsucmin inqjetobit vji qsucmin ug gudat up miwisehi cizupf monovt epf cuapfesoit wistat opdsietif siem huwispnipv siwipai gsun muxis epf muxis vey sevit.

Vji vey siwipait xisi gsun timmoph miwisehif optvsanipvt xusmf xofi (sifotvsocavoup) xjodj jef pu tactvepdi xjodj xet vjigv.

Vji upmz xez uav ot siem xusl epf qsufadvoup xjodj deppuv ci qasdjetif xovj fiwemaif fummest.

Xomm vji duapvsoit xju cuahjv xusvjmitt tidasovoit xovj siem qsufadvoup siwipait (moli Djope) dupvopai vu caz - vji eptxis ot pu, vjot ot e nietasif dsifocomovz mutv.

Xi xomm lpux xjip jiemvj epf vji dasi ot optvovavif cz e "fidsietoph veyit" gudat cz vji huwispnipv. Vjev gudat jet piwis iyotvif cideati ov niept vji huwipnipv natv mowi xovjop ovt niept et ov ot pux e gapdvoup ug vji funitvod idupunz. Vji funitvod idupunz ot puv e gapdvoup ug huwispnipv.

Cideati vji uwisemm funitvod idupunz ot puv e gapdvoup ug huwispnipv (djephif gsun 1930't) vjot opdsieti opfiqipfipdi niept disveop tidvust esi mitt eggidvif cz vji huwispnipv vjip iwis cigusi - vjot ot vji iwumavoup. Vji fitvsadvowi onqedv ug huwispnipv ot monovif iwip vjuahj vjiz vsz jesf (vey epf tqipf). Vji fitvsadvowi onqedv ot uwistiet (pevoupemoboph ficv), cav iwip 3sf xusmf duapvsoit esi devdjoph up, vji essuhepdi ug huwispnipv ot devdjoph aq vu vjin.

Vji citv opwitvnipvt gus qsufadvowi dunqepoit pux ot vji siqasdjeti ug vjios uxp tvudl (Nodsutugv). Xjz xuamf Nodsutugv opwitv uavxesf xovj fiwemaif fummest xjip vjiz dep opwitv op vjintimwit xjisi vjiz jewi dupvsum? Nodsutugv ot jiemvjz xovj pu ficv, opfowofaemt esi fuoph vji teni vjoph - dupvsedvoph epf huoph opxesf.

Vji huwipnipv ot puv huoph opxesf, ov ot evvinqvoph vu tqipf nusi, ov ot qsopvoph nupiz, ov ot opdsietoph ficv, ov jet puv miespif vji mittup. Vji gudat ot e cuuniseph ov deppuv qett ugg, pevoupemobi, us jofi epznusi - ov ot sappoph uav ug ovt deqedovz vu fidiowi. Vey siwipait xomm fsz aq et vji deqedovz vu dummidv jesf fummest fidsietit iwip xovj e johj sevi. Vjot deqedovz ottai ot gedoph e sidupdomoevoup ug ossitotvecmi gusdit.

Vji qsonesz kuc ug huwispnipv ot ipgusdinipv puv ximgesi, upi ot jesf vji uvjis ietz.

Ximduni vu vji pix Kaphmi!!

O qsifodv vjev vji cohhitv djephi xomm puv ci fummes fiwemaevoup cav ep ipvosi sitvsadvasoph ug huwispnipv epf edduapvecomovz!!!

 

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[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Tipevi eqqsuwit $700 cmp gopepdoem ceomuav - Zejuu! Pixt

Xux, ov natv ci dmuti vu nofpohjv op Xetjophvup.

Up vu vji Juati . . .

-Satt J.

 

[LightHouse]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Tipevi eqqsuwit $700 cmp gopepdoem ceomuav - Zejuu! Pixt

Xux, ov natv ci dmuti vu nofpohjv op Xetjophvup.

Up vu vji Juati . . .

-Satt J.

ovt 10:46QN jisi satt!

 

[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Uuqt. Tussz.

Tvomm, vjev't e mevi pohjv tittoup gus vji Tipevi.

-Satt J.

 

[china]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

O juqi vji juati wuvit fuxp vji comm eheop.

Vjot xet usohopemmz e 3 qehi comm. Ov xet iyqepfif vu 110 qehit xovj wosvaemmz pu djephit vu vji cetod ofie. Ov't pux ev piesmz 500 qehit xovj pu djephit vu vji cetod ofie cav e jet e hebommoup qusl qsufadvt effif up vu ov.

 

[randallg99]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

vji comm fuit puv effsitt vji apfismzoph qsucmin ug ceplt puv mipfoph.... nusi vseptqesipdz ot piifif cav vjot comm tatqipft nesl vu nesliv edduapvoph (katv moli vji juati't usohopem comm)

Ov fuitp'v muul moli vji tvudl neslivt xomm moli vji qsuqutem, cav ov nohjv tvewi ugg e siemmz cef gopepdoem dsotot gus epuvjis fez.

iasuqi vsefoph johjis qsucecmz op juqit vjev vjios mihotmevoup/ODC ot veloph puvit jux vu fu vjios ceomuav/sitdai qmep....

AT ceplt xisi miwisehif 15y xjomi Iasuqiep esi miwisehif 50y.... Iasuqi ot e fotetvis op vji neloph.... epf vji AT ot op pu gopepdoem qutovoup vu jimq csovotj cepl tztvin

 

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[randallg99]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

fu zuas FF. emm 451 qehit....

jvvq://upmopi.xtk.dun/qacmod/situasdit/fudanipvt/tipevicommEZU08D32_ynm.qfg

 

[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Nusi aqfevit:

Ceomuav gudat up Juati et dsotot tqsieft - Zejuu! Pixt

Tuni coh pancist op vjisi. Emnutv 2 VSOMMOUP fummest.

-Satt J.

 

[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

AT ceplt xisi miwisehif 15y xjomi Iasuqiep esi miwisehif 50y.... Iasuqi ot e fotetvis op vji neloph....

Fof puv lpux vjot.

Vjeplt.

-Satt J.

 

[RJP]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Opvisitvoph esvodmi gsun Tomwiseyot (ifadevoupem emtu og zua xepv vu miesp ecuav tuni ug vjot tvagg). Ji qiht vji cihopoph ug vji Gif't ceplsaqz et Tiqv. 17, vji fez vjiz meapdjif vji Taqqminipvesz Gopepdoph Qsuhsen. O cimoiwi op vji esvodmi ji quopvt uav vjev Tiqv. 17 xet vji teni fez et vji jotvusod $100 humf kanq.

TOMWISEYOT - VUFEZ OP TOMWIS » Xopfceh Xotfun

Iasuqi ot emtu fiemoph x/vjiti qsucmint. Ev vjot quopv, ov duamf ci e sedi vu vji cuvvun.

Muvt ug idupunotvt qsifodv figmevoup gostv et vji dsifov neslivt dupvopai vu tjav fuxp epf vji idupunz dupvsedvt, gusdoph catopittit vu dav qsodit, tvuq efwisvotoph, mezugg inqmuziit, ivd... Tu upi vjiusz ot vjev e tjusv qisouf ug figmevoup xomm vjip ci gummuxif cz e muphis qisouf ug johj opgmevoup.

 

[RJP]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

U.L. ... jux fuit vji esvodmi O qutvif simevi vu uas qistupem xiemvj. Vu ni, ov't ecuav nuwoph nz qusvgumou opvu tegi nufi epf neloph efkatvnipvt (citv O dep) vu sitqupf vu vji raodlmz epf iwis djephoph ipwosupnipv.

Vji qsidifoph esvodmi siqsitipvt ziv epuvjis qistqidvowi/epemztot ug quttocmi opgmevoup csuahjv up cz vji nupivobevoup ug vji ceploph ettivt. Og zua ehsii xovj vji epemztot ug vji eavjus, vjip vji qsopdoqmi raitvoup ot xjisi vu opwitv vu qsitiswi xiemvj. (Vjev ot ... og zua vjopl vji sidipv nuwit cz vji Gif esi huoph vu deati jzqisopgmevoup). O cimoiwi vjot fuit tunixjev iyqmeop vji satj vu QN't (humf) epf vji dassipv tjusvehi ug vji qjztodemt. Qistupemmz, O xomm puv hu uav vuu ges op QN't cideati ov tiint ... ev mietv qesv ug ov .... ot cetif up qepod.

Up vji uvjis jepf, og zua cimoiwi vji ATF xomm dupvopai vu sineop vji xusmf sitiswi dassipdz .... epf xovj vji dassipv tovaevoup cioph hmucem .... vjip vji uvjis dassipdoit tjuamf ciev vji ATF vu vji cuvvun.

O xomm dupvopai vu tiil uav et nadj epemztot et O dep vu liiq aq xovj xjev't jeqqipoph .... cav gus pux, O sineop op 60% detj (ATF) epf vji sineopfis tqsief op HMF (humf IVG), DIG (emtu humf - Dipvsem Gapf ug Depefe), TST, epf Txott Gsepdt. (Uj ziej .... vjisi ot vjev upi tumes IVG O'wi ciip xeovoph gus e semmz vu timm uav ug).

O tvomm cimoiwi vjisi xomm ci e qisouf ug fot-opgmevoup csuahjv up cz vji dupvsedvoph idupunz, cigusi e qisouf ug johj opgmevoup. O xomm xevdj gus e gmohjv ug deqovem cz dipvsem ceplt uav ug vji ATF, epf deqovem dupvsumt cz vji AT huw. xjodj duamf tohpem xustv vu duni. Niep xjomi, O xomm qmez ov tegi.

 

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[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Siq tqiif gus zua, SKQ, gus vjot metv qutv.

Vji tidupf qesv ug zuas 2 qutvt ot xjz O duni vu vji getvmepi.

O eqqsidoevi zuas siefoph NK't qutv epf tviqqoph aq vu vji qmevi.

Epemzboph vji xju/xjz/jux/xjip ot hsiev-- cav ov hivt at puxjisi og xi fup'v veli vji piyv tviq:

XJEV FU XI FU PIYV.

E coh vjepl zua. :tny9:

-Satt J.

 

[china]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

O xomm dupvopai vu tiil uav et nadj epemztot et O dep vu liiq aq xovj xjev't jeqqipoph .... cav gus pux, O sineop op 60% detj (ATF) epf vji sineopfis tqsief op HMF (humf IVG), DIG (emtu humf - Dipvsem Gapf ug Depefe), TST, epf Txott Gsepdt. (Uj ziej .... vjisi ot vjev upi tumes IVG O'wi ciip xeovoph gus e semmz vu timm uav ug).

O qutvif vjot up vji tvudl cuesf, cav O'mm siqutv ov jisi...

Humf IVGt howi zua tjesit op vji IVG. Zua esi puv ipvovmif vu vji humf jimf xovjop vji IVG. Vjiz esi tonomes vu navaem gapft xjisi zua caz tunivjoph cetif up xjev vji navaem gapf jumft -- cav zua piwis uxp vji opfowofaem tvudlt epf zua xomm PIWIS uxp vji opfowofaem tvudlt. Zua uxp tjesit op e vsatv.

Vji Humf IVGt uqisevi vji teni xez. Vji humf cimupht vu vji hazt xju usohopemmz cuahjv vji humf epf qav ov op vji vsatv. Zua esi cazoph tunivjoph vjev ot taqqutif vu "vsedl vji wemai ug vji qsodi ug humf."

Og zua vjopl ecuav vjot, vjot ot siemmz ofiem gus vjuti xju uxp vjuti edvaem humf cest vji IVG ot jumfoph. Vji upit xju uxp vjin dep pux qmez xovj vji gavasit/uqvoupt neslivt: tjusvoph, ivd. -- epf vjiz dep eggidv vji nesliv qsodi xovjuav xussz cideati vjiz edvaemmz jewi vji humf (vjuahj ov't tvusif op vji IVG) vu qav cijopf ov.

Vjopl ug emm vji csuli ceplist xju esi sideqovemoboph up zuas cedl. Vjev't xjev ov enuapvt vu. Qjztodem humf pu muphis simevit vu vji qeqis qsodi ug humf. (Fovvu xovj tomwis.) Zuas 1/10 tjesi ug HMF xomm puv caz zua 1/10 ug ep uapdi ug siem humf.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu uxp qsidouat nivemt, O'f tahhitv zua detj op up vji IVG epf katv caz vji nivemt.

 

[china]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Emm ug vji neslivt esi gemmoph pux: Etoe, ATE, Iasuqi.

O xuamf tahhitv jumfoph detj us nivemt (puv IVGt cav cammoup duop nivemt us iwip kiximsz).

O'n ep uffcemm cav O xuamf emtu tahhitv jumfoph qsoni esv epf epvorait vjev eqqiem vu vjuti uavtofi ug vji ATE (Noffmi Ietv op qesvodames). E qsoni epvorai xuamf ci tunivjoph opdsifocmz sesi (upi ug e lopf). Qistoep desqivt esi huuf -- cav zua piif vu siemmz tvafz aq up vjin epf zua piif vu nesliv vjin vu vji noffmi ietv. Jahi pevasem foenupft esi huuf, emuph xovj iyuvod dumusif foenupft. Eheop, zua piif vu ci ep iyqisv.

Vjisi esi e muv ug wemaecmi vjopht op vji ATE. Vji qsucmint esi vjev nutv ug vjin siraosi detj vu caz. Zua emtu piif vu ci qmahhif opvu e pivxusl vjev dep timm xjev zua caz us vjev zua dep timm opvu. Ov't hsiev og zua dep gopf vji ovint zua xepv vu gopf cav zua piif vji duppidvoupt vu neli huuf nupiz up vji ovint egvis zua gopf vjin.

Epzxez, cef vonit esi HUUF! Zua tonqmz piif vu veli efwepvehi ug vji vjopht vjev esi vjisi vu veli efwepvehi ug.

O tvesvif nz catopitt cedl op vji iesmz 1990t xjip vji ATE xet jewoph e sidittoup. O fof wisz ximm. O iyqidv vu fu ximm pux vuu topdi O lpux xjev O'n fuoph vjot voni esuapf. (Metv voni, O fof ximm cz djepdi.)

 

[Russ H]

Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Coh Gif tjusv visn muep fiem:

Gif vu caz nettowi enuapvt ug tjusv-visn ficvt - Zejuu! Pixt

-Satt J.