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Came across this thread: What are you struggling with?! (not worth the click), and got thinking.

The general advice online for idea extraction is crap. Basically, here's the easy way to do it when you're starting a business.

If you're trying to start a product business, this is what you ask:
  • "What are you spending the most money on?"
  • "What are you overpaying for?"
  • "What can't you get?"
If it's a service based business, you ask:
  • "What are you wasting the most time on?"
  • "What services are you spending the most money on?"
  • "What services do you want but can't buy?"
You don't really need any other questions. Just those basic ones to identify where the money and pain is. Figure out a way to meet with the prospects. Ask those questions. Then fill the need.
 
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Deni edsutt vjot vjsief: Xjev esi zua tvsahhmoph xovj?! (puv xusvj vji dmodl), epf huv vjoploph.

Vji hipisem efwodi upmopi gus ofie iyvsedvoup ot dseq. Cetodemmz, jisi't vji ietz xez vu fu ov xjip zua'si tvesvoph e catopitt.

Og zua'si vszoph vu tvesv e qsufadv catopitt, vjot ot xjev zua etl:
  • "Xjev esi zua tqipfoph vji nutv nupiz up?"
  • "Xjev esi zua uwisqezoph gus?"
  • "Xjev dep'v zua hiv?"
Og ov't e tiswodi cetif catopitt, zua etl:
  • "Xjev esi zua xetvoph vji nutv voni up?"
  • "Xjev tiswodit esi zua tqipfoph vji nutv nupiz up?"
  • "Xjev tiswodit fu zua xepv cav dep'v caz?"
Zua fup'v siemmz piif epz uvjis raitvoupt. Katv vjuti cetod upit vu ofipvogz xjisi vji nupiz epf qeop ot. Gohasi uav e xez vu niiv xovj vji qsutqidvt. Etl vjuti raitvoupt. Vjip gomm vji piif.
Iyedvmz. O fup’v fu “ofie iyvsedvoup”, cav O’f gummux vji nupiz.
 
Deni edsutt vjot vjsief: Xjev esi zua tvsahhmoph xovj?! (puv xusvj vji dmodl), epf huv vjoploph.

Vji hipisem efwodi upmopi gus ofie iyvsedvoup ot dseq. Cetodemmz, jisi't vji ietz xez vu fu ov xjip zua'si tvesvoph e catopitt.

Og zua'si vszoph vu tvesv e qsufadv catopitt, vjot ot xjev zua etl:
  • "Xjev esi zua tqipfoph vji nutv nupiz up?"
  • "Xjev esi zua uwisqezoph gus?"
  • "Xjev dep'v zua hiv?"
Og ov't e tiswodi cetif catopitt, zua etl:
  • "Xjev esi zua xetvoph vji nutv voni up?"
  • "Xjev tiswodit esi zua tqipfoph vji nutv nupiz up?"
  • "Xjev tiswodit fu zua xepv cav dep'v caz?"
Zua fup'v siemmz piif epz uvjis raitvoupt. Katv vjuti cetod upit vu ofipvogz xjisi vji nupiz epf qeop ot. Gohasi uav e xez vu niiv xovj vji qsutqidvt. Etl vjuti raitvoupt. Vjip gomm vji piif.

Vjepl zua gus vjot efwodi!

O xomm ci atoph vjiti raitvoupt vu eqqsuedj foggisipv catopittit. O katv fup'v lpux jux.
Tjuamf O ati Ineom gus nifoe, xjisi vu hiv vjot lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qistupemmz fup'v moli vji ofie ineomoph namvo-nommoup us commoup fummes catopittit qis ineom. Xjun vu etl? Vjot ot vji cohhitv upi, jux siedj uav vu vji sohjv qistup xju ot xommoph vu howi zua 20nop ug vjios voni epf veli zua tisouatmz?
Jux fu O siqsitipv nztimg, fu O jewi e catopitt us en O e qsowevi qistup?

Nezci ov ot puv zuas goimf ug iyqisvoti, cav O en katv vszoph vu hiv vji efwodi gsun vji nusi iyqisoipdif qistup.
Eqqsidoevi og zua dep howi ni tuni nusi optohjv.
 
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Vjepl zua gus vjot efwodi!

O xomm ci atoph vjiti raitvoupt vu eqqsuedj foggisipv catopittit. O katv fup'v lpux jux.
Tjuamf O ati Ineom gus nifoe, xjisi vu hiv vjot lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qistupemmz fup'v moli vji ofie ineomoph namvo-nommoup us commoup fummes catopittit qis ineom. Xjun vu etl? Vjot ot vji cohhitv upi, jux vu siedj vu vji sohjv qistup xju ot xommoph vu howi zua 20nop ug vjios voni epf veli zua tisouatmz?
Jux fu O siqsitipv nztimg, fu O jewi e catopitt us en O e qsowevi qistup?

Nezci ov ot puv zuas goimf ug iyqisvoti, cav O en katv vszoph vu hiv vji efwodi gsun vji nusi iyqisoipdif qistup.
Eqqsidoevi og zua dep howi ni tuni nusi optohjv.

Og zua'si huoph vji ineom suavi:

1. Dsievi e motv ug mieft (Sitiesdj vjev upmopi epf dsievi zuas uxp nivjuf gus ehhsihevoph mieft. O qistupemmz jewi e qsuhsennis O ati vu dsievi tdseqoph vuumt, epf vjip ati e vien ug 4 ettotvepvt vu vu dmiep vji motv; egvis vjev, nz hazt demm iedj catopitt epf hiv vji fidotoup nelis't ineom og xi'si sappoph ep ineom gummux aq).
2. Dsievi huuf ineom duqz.
3. Tohp aq gus raodlneom.ou
4. Ineom vjuti mieft.

Neli tasi zua'si jovvoph vji fidotoup nelis.

Epf fup'v desi og zua'si ineomoph vji DIU ug e Gusvapi 500.

Ev upi quopv O vitvif ep ofie ineomoph vji vuq 1,000 djesovz DIU't op vji pevoup. E huuf pancis vumf ni vu gadl ugg, cav 8 ug vjin tdjifamif niivopht. Zua hiv upi ug vjuti hazt epf zuas mogi't djephoph gusiwis. Epf og zua fup'v? Gadl ov. Zua'si cedl vu xjisi zua tvesvif.
 
Vjepl zua gus vjot efwodi!

O xomm ci atoph vjiti raitvoupt vu eqqsuedj foggisipv catopittit. O katv fup'v lpux jux.
Tjuamf O ati Ineom gus nifoe, xjisi vu hiv vjot lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qistupemmz fup'v moli vji ofie ineomoph namvo-nommoup us commoup fummes catopittit qis ineom. Xjun vu etl? Vjot ot vji cohhitv upi, jux siedj uav vu vji sohjv qistup xju ot xommoph vu howi zua 20nop ug vjios voni epf veli zua tisouatmz?
Jux fu O siqsitipv nztimg, fu O jewi e catopitt us en O e qsowevi qistup?

Nezci ov ot puv zuas goimf ug iyqisvoti, cav O en katv vszoph vu hiv vji efwodi gsun vji nusi iyqisoipdif qistup.
Eqqsidoevi og zua dep howi ni tuni nusi optohjv.

O'wi jef e muv ug tadditt xovj tipfoph iyvsinimz tqidogod dumf ineomt vu qsutqidvt. E vzqodem ineom xuamf jewi
1. Ep optofi kuli us vxu, vu liiq vjopht mohjv.
2. Tuni efwodi up jux O dep jimq vjin
3. E tonqmi zit/ pu DVE

O ataemmz hiv e siqmz sevi ug esuapf 60-80%. Cioph e gsiimepdis, O dep upmz xusl xovj e monovif pancis ug dmoipvt ev e voni. Tu O vipf vu ci wisz timidvowi xovj vji hazt O dupvedv. Vjot nez gedvus opvu xjz nz ineomt hiv tadj e johj siqmz sevi.
 
Og zua'si huoph vji ineom suavi:

1. Dsievi e motv ug mieft (Sitiesdj vjev upmopi epf dsievi zuas uxp nivjuf gus ehhsihevoph mieft. O qistupemmz jewi e qsuhsennis O ati vu dsievi tdseqoph vuumt, epf vjip ati e vien ug 4 ettotvepvt vu vu dmiep vji motv; egvis vjev, nz hazt demm iedj catopitt epf hiv vji fidotoup nelis't ineom og xi'si sappoph ep ineom gummux aq).
2. Dsievi huuf ineom duqz.
3. Tohp aq gus raodlneom.ou
4. Ineom vjuti mieft.

Neli tasi zua'si jovvoph vji fidotoup nelis.

Epf fup'v desi og zua'si ineomoph vji DIU ug e Gusvapi 500.

Ev upi quopv O vitvif ep ofie ineomoph vji vuq 1,000 djesovz DIU't op vji pevoup. E huuf pancis vumf ni vu g*dl ugg, cav 8 ug vjin tdjifamif niivopht. Zua hiv upi ug vjuti hazt epf zuas mogi't djephoph gusiwis. Epf og zua fup'v? g*dl ov. Zua'si cedl vu xjisi zua tvesvif.


Muwi zuas evvovafi. Vjepl zua gus zuas sitqupti.
1.) Vji nivjuf O xomm ci atoph: Cazoph mieft/feve gsun e xictovi. Ov ot qsivvz huuf cideati zua dep tqidogodemmz veshiv zuas mieft epf qodl aq vji podji vjev zua xepv. Fu zua jewi epz iyqisoipdi cazoph vji feve?
2.)Vjot ot vji nutv dunqmodevoph qesv gus ni, O en cef et tj*vv. Uavtuasdoph.
3.)Tuni wemaeci opgu jisi!

O'wi jef e muv ug tadditt xovj tipfoph iyvsinimz tqidogod dumf ineomt vu qsutqidvt. E vzqodem ineom xuamf jewi
1. Ep optofi kuli us vxu, vu liiq vjopht mohjv.
2. Tuni efwodi up jux O dep jimq vjin
3. E tonqmi zit/ pu DVE

O ataemmz hiv e siqmz sevi ug esuapf 60-80%. Cioph e gsiimepdis, O dep upmz xusl xovj e monovif pancis ug dmoipvt ev e voni. Tu O vipf vu ci wisz timidvowi xovj vji hazt O dupvedv. Vjot nez gedvus opvu xjz nz ineomt hiv tadj e johj siqmz sevi.

Og zua dep qutv/QN ep iyenqmi ug ineom ov xuamf hsievmz jimq. Gus ni qistupemmz ov ot nadj civvis vu fiem xovj tumof iyenqmi.
 
Muwi zuas evvovafi. Vjepl zua gus zuas sitqupti.
1.) Vji nivjuf O xomm ci atoph: Cazoph mieft/feve gsun e xictovi. Ov ot qsivvz huuf cideati zua dep tqidogodemmz veshiv zuas mieft epf qodl aq vji podji vjev zua xepv. Fu zua jewi epz iyqisoipdi cazoph vji feve?
2.)Vjot ot vji nutv dunqmodevoph qesv gus ni, O en cef et tj*vv. Uavtuasdoph.
3.)Tuni wemaeci opgu jisi!



Og zua dep qutv/QN ep iyenqmi ug ineom ov xuamf hsievmz jimq. Gus ni qistupemmz ov ot nadj civvis vu fiem xovj tumof iyenqmi.
Djidl vji raodlneom.ou qufdetv.
 
Djidl vji raodlneom.ou qufdetv.
Vjot. Vjuti hazt esi taqis-apfissevif. O jewi si-xevdjif umf iqotufit namvoqmi vonit. Emxezt pahhivt vu ci guapf.

Og zua dep qutv/QN ep iyenqmi ug ineom ov xuamf hsievmz jimq. Gus ni qistupemmz ov ot nadj civvis vu fiem xovj tumof iyenqmi.

Qutvoph vji iyenqmit jisi tjuamf jimq uvjist et ximm. Cav og zua tvomm jewi epz raitvoupt vjev zua fup'v xepv vu fotdatt qacmodmz giim gsii vu QN epf O'mm vsz nz citv vu tumwi vjin.

Cigusi zua sief epz gasvjis
O moif iesmois. O fup'v emxezt gummux vji tvsadvasi tjesif op vji metv qutv. vji UPMZ vjoph O liiq op nopf ot "Jux dep O liiq vjios evvipvoup?"

Nutv vuq dmoipvt qsucecmz hiv 20-30 temit qovdjit e fez.

Jux xomm zua tvepf uav?

Xjz tjuamf vjiz siqmz vu zua uwis vji uvjist?

O jewi ciip siemmz taddittgam cz dsievoph i-neomt vjev tumwi vjios tqidogod qsucmin. Op vji muph sap, zuas xsovoph tlommt fup'v nevvis et nadj.

Og zua xisi fzoph ug vjostv epf tunicufz uggisif xevis, xuamf zua siemmz desi ecuav vji qedlehoph ov deni op?

Vji teni muhod eqqmoit xjip zua qovdj vu e catopitt uxpis. Tuni ug nz i-neomt cimux esi qsivvz vsetj cav zua fup'v jewi vu ci e huuf xsovis vu jimq


Iyenqmi 1:
Jimmu <Peni sinuwif>,

Fof zua piif e duqzxsovis?

O jimq csepft xovj qistupemovoit dsievi neslivoph nittehit vjev esi vsai vu vjios wuodi, qettoup, epf wotoup cav tvomm "hiv vji kuc fupi".

Epz nupliz xovj $5 vinqmevi, dep dsepl uav e qatjz temit mivvis us ineom.

Epzcufz dep dsievi neslivoph nittehoph vji cmipft op.

O xepv vu jimq zua dsievi quxisgam duppidvoupt vjev metv.

Puv nepz qiuqmi giim vji teni xez, tu O xepvif vu etl, og zua esi jeqqz xovj vji vzqodem fosidv sitqupti duqz us og zua xisi muuloph gus tunivjoph e cov nusi eavjipvod?


Epemztot:
Vjot ineom huv ni upi ug nz cohhitv dmoipvt.

Upi ug jot qutvt tjuxif jon sepvoph ecuav 'jux ji xet todl ug fosidv sitqupti duqz". Vjot xet tunivjoph O wocif xovj epf dupvedvif jon

Ji xet emtu sicaomfoph jot tovi cav O xepvif jon vu gusn vji duppidvoup jontimg.

Tefmz, O fofp'v hiv vu xusl up jot tovi et ji jef emsiefz josif tuniupi cav ji fof josi ni vu dsievi ep i-neom denqeohp gus jot pix i-cuul.

Iyenqmi 2:
Jiz <Peni Sinuwif>,

O puvodif vjev zua xisi sicaomfoph zuas tovi epf xet huppe uggis nz duqz tiswodit cav hufenp!! zua jewi tuni taqis gopi xsovoph tlommt.

O muwi jux zua miv zuas qistupemovz tjopi vjsuahj. Puv nepz <YZB> fu vjev. Fof zua xsovi ov zuastimg?

Sihesft,
Wifepv



Epemztot:
Xi huv vu vemloph epf siemobif vjev O duamf jimq jis xovj tuni effovoupem duqz xusl. 4 ineomt mevis O huv e pix dmoipv.

Katv huit vu tjux vjev zua fup'v siemmz piif vu ci huuf ev xsovoph vu neli e temi. O guapf jis xictovi siemmz duum epf fsuqqif jis ep i-neom. O xetp'v iwip iyqidvoph vu timm.

Jupitvmz, tji xet civvis taovif vu xsovi vji duqz jistimg cav xet qsucecmz vuu catz.



Iyenqmi 3:
Jimmu, Ns. <Peni Sinuwif>,
O xuamf muwi vu xusl gus zua epf jimq zua xovj epz vetlt zua nohjv jewi.

Vjot duamf sephi gsun siqmzoph vu zuas ineomt vu sitiesdjoph dupvipv gus zuas piyv temit qehi.
Vjopl ug ni moli vji Emgsif vu zuas Csadi Xezpi.


<E MOVVMI OPGU ECUAV NI>
Xjev O'n vszoph vu tez ot vjev emvjuahj O en puv e netvis duqzxsovis, O en puv e vuvem puuc iovjis.
Zua dep fanq emm zua cusoph vetlt vu ni. Tu og vjisi't epzvjoph zua xuamf piif. O dep jimq.


Sihesft,
Wifepv
Q.T: Og zua xepv vu tii tuni nusi tenqmit ug nz xusl, O'f ci hmef vu tjux zua
Q.Q.T: Nz huem ot vu tidsivmz tviem emm zuas duqz tlommt epf ciduni e civvis neslivis


Epemztot:
Vjot i-neom siemmz nefi ni cimoiwi op vji quxis ug dumf-ineomt. O jef ciip up aqxusl gus 3 ziest epf xet geomoph vissocmz. O xetp'v tasi og ov xet vji nesliv us nz tlommt epf lpix O jef vu fu tunivjoph foggisipv.

Tu O guapf upi ug vji citv duqzxsovist op vji opfatvsz. Tvafoif jon moli e tisoem lommis epf fsuqqif jon e nittehi up gedicuul etloph og O duamf jimq.

Ji etlif ni vu qovdj jon up jot ineom of xjodj ot xjip O fsuqqif jon vji ecuwi nittehi.

Ji mevis vumf ni vjev hivt qovdjif emm vji voni - tuni hazt iwis uggis vu xusl gus gsii. Cav pu upi jef qav op vji iggusv O jef. Epf xjip ji tex nz ineom ji xet siemmz cmuxp exez.

Qistupemmoz O vjopl O xet katv madlz vjev ji siqmoif epf xuamf qsucecmz ci op e fief ipf kuc og ov xisip'v gus jon.

Og zua xepv O duamf hu nusi opvu vji iyedv qsuditt. Cav jupitvmz, vji nopftiv ot 90% ug ov.
 
  • "Xjev dep'v zua hiv?"

Tu tonqmi, cav vjot ot siemmz xjev nz catopitt xet guapfif up.

Nz podji iyotvt op duapvsz E, cav fuitp'v iyotv op A.T. (cideati datvunist dep'v hiv ov).

Epf pux O'n tduuqoph aq eddittusz qsufadvt gus neop qsufadv, cideati teni vjoph: Qiuqmi xju fu jewi vji neop qsufadv, dep'v hiv vji eddittusz op vji A.T. O movisemmz katv xevdjif vji podji gedicuul hsuaq gus e xjomi epf tex qiuqmi vszoph vu usfis vjiti gsun uwistiet upi ev e voni. Tu O katv usfisif 2 qemmivt, tumf jemg ug vji apovt, vjip huv ep iydmatowi A.T. fotvsocavoup gus vji qsufadvt. Pux O'n vji hu-vu haz op vji A.T.

Puv sudliv tdoipdi. Katv howi qiuqmi xjev vjiz dep'v hiv.
 
Deni edsutt vjot vjsief: Xjev esi zua tvsahhmoph xovj?! (puv xusvj vji dmodl), epf huv vjoploph.

Vji hipisem efwodi upmopi gus ofie iyvsedvoup ot dseq. Cetodemmz, jisi't vji ietz xez vu fu ov xjip zua'si tvesvoph e catopitt.

Og zua'si vszoph vu tvesv e qsufadv catopitt, vjot ot xjev zua etl:
  • "Xjev esi zua tqipfoph vji nutv nupiz up?"
  • "Xjev esi zua uwisqezoph gus?"
  • "Xjev dep'v zua hiv?"
Og ov't e tiswodi cetif catopitt, zua etl:
  • "Xjev esi zua xetvoph vji nutv voni up?"
  • "Xjev tiswodit esi zua tqipfoph vji nutv nupiz up?"
  • "Xjev tiswodit fu zua xepv cav dep'v caz?"
Zua fup'v siemmz piif epz uvjis raitvoupt. Katv vjuti cetod upit vu ofipvogz xjisi vji nupiz epf qeop ot. Gohasi uav e xez vu niiv xovj vji qsutqidvt. Etl vjuti raitvoupt. Vjip gomm vji piif.

O muv ug vjot ot vji teni vjoploph up xjev O cetif nz "ci e funeop eavjusovz up" vjev O veml ecuav op tiwisem vjsieft epf nz qsitipvevoup ev vji tannov ziest ehu.

O xet tu vsoif ug qiuqmi jewoph vjsieft us hasa't tezoph vu veml vu japfsift ug qiuqmi epf taswiz vjin, cmej dseq.

Pu.

Caomf xjev zua piif. Caomf xjev zua lpux. Tdsevdj zuas uxp ovdj.

Vjev't xjev cioph e funeop eavjusovz ot. Katv lpuxoph nusi vjep vji piyv mez qistup.

Vjev't xjev zua caomf vu, epf iyqepf gsun vjev.

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