GiganticWebsites.com - We Build Sites with Thousands of Articles (30% - 50% Fastlane Discounts)

[Spenny]

I've done some digging; please correct me if I'm wrong. This may help with feedback on how you present yourself and your products.

The Products

Will get right down to business: we create beautiful WordPress websites that are... let's just say content-rich on steroids. With 500 articles as the bare minimum and the sky being the limit in terms of maximum.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I wouldn't say your websites are beautiful. You may offer large quantities with gigantic websites, but the quality seems lacking. They look like basic WordPress templates cooked up in five minutes. It feels like it: the font, the slow image loading, the basic dry format. It's very 2010s, and I'm unsure who would pay a dollar for this. Even the simple use of engaging photos is not even utilised. The photos that are employed are low-quality stock images.

Some of the links are broken. I got redirected to the NBA on one of them. The effort level is on the floor.






People have already addressed traffic concerns, which is reasonable. Using a "You Get What You See" argument isn't going to convince people to hand over their money for a website that drives no traffic and is effectively useless in producing the bottom line. If you're offering a service, drill down to what people are looking for in traffic for sales.

Besides, I can improve these websites within an hour. Elementor is cheap, and ChatGPT is easy to use. Why would I pay you $650 for articles that don't convert, drive no traffic, and add no value to me?

Your Youtube Channel
You have evergreen content on your channel, but I find your subscribers vs views strange. You have 191k subs on YouTube, but only:

2.6k followers on X
~500 on Facebook
1600 on Instagram
12k on LinkedIn

There is usually more spillover onto other platforms.

I also find the direct proportionality of your views & subs rather strange.


Your engagement on all platforms is relatively low for such a big channel. We're talking thousands of views with a handful of comments. That doesn't make me confident that the content you produce will hook people & drive my sales.

Your Wikipedia Page
The majority of references are broken and lead to dead ends. Those highlighted are deadlines or irrelevant references.


I wouldn't be surprised if you wrote this to inflate some credibility. The facade falls quickly with more digging.

I've spent too long looking at this because I pulled on a thread, found an unravelling, and kept pulling. Your credibility has many gaps.

Your Purpose
I saw a phrase on your website that raised an eyebrow.

Is the reason you're doing this to provide value, benefit businesses, fulfil a need, or fulfil your ego?

I would ask yourself this because from what I see of the writing, the websites, and you throwing money at advertising that clearly isn't working, you're wasting your time and have to try something else. That, or you're trying to find a shmuck to hand over $650 for a crappy website, then bounce.

 

[Bounce Back]

First: I think you did well on the copy on that fastlane page. It felt like a natural flow there so kudos.

Do you have any case studies / proof on SEO quality or results these articles generate? The price seems too good to be true (or high quality). This is especially relevant as you mention your company would do the keyword research.

I gotta imagine if you could do this well enough and at those prices you would have so many websites spun up and generating ad revenue it would just seem like a waste of time to offer this to others. (Is my current thought process).

This isn't meant to "grill" you but just allow you a good opportunity to elaborate here for everyone to consider.

 

[Spenny]

You haven't addressed the stuff related to your credibility, but oh well. You're part of your brand, and it's key that you uphold this image.

And I can provide zero in the way of guarantees. It would be the easiest thing in the world for me to make super-attractive promises but I cannot.

Why not make super attractive promises? I promise my customers that they get their needs fulfilled - reasonably.

And if you don't stand behind your product, why should anyone back you with their hard-earned dollars?

We simply provide the best websites we can given the budgets we are working with.

Then, it is not a competitive product that innovates against competition. After one quick Google search, I found this site.

AI Article Writer & Article Generator | Writesonic.com

The best AI writer for articles, essays and SEO writing. Get started FREE! Spend less time in copywriting and research, generate effective content in seconds.

writesonic.com

Here is their offering:

• Shortlisted for their service in multiple places
• Loads of companies use them
• CLEAR explanation of value-adds. I can see how it will benefit MY business.
  • 
• Testimonials
• A website that looks like it's in 2024

On top of that, they are far cheaper than what you are offering.
I would get WordPress, install Elementor, get this service, churn out targeted articles that solve people's needs (not 500 lukewarm articles) and call it a day.

I don't need to do all the mental gymnastics and overcome the mental barrier of giving you $650, wondering if I just got conned.

And I truly believe that while the articles are in no way Pulitzer material, they provide genuine value... certainly orders of magnitude more than such budgets could have facilitated pre-genAI.

For example, let's assume you wanted a website with 500 articles three years ago... at $682, which is what we charge. What would you have received? Most likely content that made zero sense.

A quick mental math lesson.
My equation of my results is this.

Sales = (Article quantity + article quality)*Traffic

KEY SUCCESS CONDITIONS
Sales >> Amount invested
If Sales < Amount invested = squandering of capital

If traffic equals zero, I still get zero. It doesn't matter how many articles you give me; I still don't get any sales, so I will not invest in your service. You have no track record of driving results.

You've shown tiny snippets of "results" that could have come from anywhere. More than that, rather than traffic, what about conversion to sales? Which is all that matters in the end?

2) If you do not have any plans with respect to how you will be generating traffic, I would recommend not buying (we build the websites from A to Z but do not offer link building, social media marketing or any other addon services)

So why not offer it if people are asking?

My thoughts on this is that you're looking to exempt yourself from the outcome of your crappy service. "If it doesn't work, it's not our fault!".

3) If you are interested in non-standard options on the Web development front, for example adding images, that can be arranged but we will have to charge more

I'd rather pay $685 for a Bored Ape JPEG than for that "value add" of images. At least I get a funny-looking monkey for my desktop background & I get a Fastlane Forum profile picture.

I don't understand that you have been doing this for months and are using the same tactics as here. Your impressions and engagement are minuscule - where is the proof your service will work?

If you are getting people to buy your service with your offering - God save us.

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Talking about Bored Ape JPEGs, I considered choosing between overpriced 2010 websites and a JPEG for where my money should go. I thought the funny monkey was a no-brainer, so I went out and bought one—this is a good investment of my $685. You'd have to be bananas not to pick this beast.

Look how cool he is. He shoots lasers from his eyes & is, after all, a great profile pic.

 

[Aidan04]

I've done some digging; please correct me if I'm wrong. This may help with feedback on how you present yourself and your products.

The Products

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I wouldn't say your websites are beautiful. You may offer large quantities with gigantic websites, but the quality seems lacking. They look like basic WordPress templates cooked up in five minutes. It feels like it: the font, the slow image loading, the basic dry format. It's very 2010s, and I'm unsure who would pay a dollar for this. Even the simple use of engaging photos is not even utilised. The photos that are employed are low-quality stock images.

Some of the links are broken. I got redirected to the NBA on one of them. The effort level is on the floor.

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People have already addressed traffic concerns, which is reasonable. Using a "You Get What You See" argument isn't going to convince people to hand over their money for a website that drives no traffic and is effectively useless in producing the bottom line. If you're offering a service, drill down to what people are looking for in traffic for sales.

Besides, I can improve these websites within an hour. Elementor is cheap, and ChatGPT is easy to use. Why would I pay you $650 for articles that don't convert, drive no traffic, and add no value to me?

Your Youtube Channel
You have evergreen content on your channel, but I find your subscribers vs views strange. You have 191k subs on YouTube, but only:

2.6k followers on X
~500 on Facebook
1600 on Instagram
12k on LinkedIn

There is usually more spillover onto other platforms.

I also find the direct proportionality of your views & subs rather strange.
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Your engagement on all platforms is relatively low for such a big channel. We're talking thousands of views with a handful of comments. That doesn't make me confident that the content you produce will hook people & drive my sales.

Your Wikipedia Page
The majority of references are broken and lead to dead ends. Those highlighted are deadlines or irrelevant references.

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I wouldn't be surprised if you wrote this to inflate some credibility. The facade falls quickly with more digging.

I've spent too long looking at this because I pulled on a thread, found an unravelling, and kept pulling. Your credibility has many gaps.

Your Purpose
I saw a phrase on your website that raised an eyebrow.
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Is the reason you're doing this to provide value, benefit businesses, fulfil a need, or fulfil your ego?

I would ask yourself this because from what I see of the writing, the websites, and you throwing money at advertising that clearly isn't working, you're wasting your time and have to try something else. That, or you're trying to find a shmuck to hand over $650 for a crappy website, then bounce.

Detective Spenny on the case!!

Was really cool to see you unravel this whole thing, I never would've guessed just how shitty this forum ad was.

 

[Yula]

First: I think you did well on the copy on that fastlane page. It felt like a natural flow there so kudos.

Do you have any case studies / proof on SEO quality or results these articles generate? The price seems too good to be true (or high quality). This is especially relevant as you mention your company would do the keyword research.

I gotta imagine if you could do this well enough and at those prices you would have so many websites spun up and generating ad revenue it would just seem like a waste of time to offer this to others. (Is my current thought process).

This isn't meant to "grill" you but just allow you a good opportunity to elaborate here for everyone to consider.

When it seems too good to be true...

It probably is...

Put some of the sites they made in Semrush to see if there are any noteworthy results, see for yourself.

 

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[Oso]

I've done some digging; please correct me if I'm wrong. This may help with feedback on how you present yourself and your products.

The Products

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I wouldn't say your websites are beautiful. You may offer large quantities with gigantic websites, but the quality seems lacking. They look like basic WordPress templates cooked up in five minutes. It feels like it: the font, the slow image loading, the basic dry format. It's very 2010s, and I'm unsure who would pay a dollar for this. Even the simple use of engaging photos is not even utilised. The photos that are employed are low-quality stock images.

Some of the links are broken. I got redirected to the NBA on one of them. The effort level is on the floor.

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People have already addressed traffic concerns, which is reasonable. Using a "You Get What You See" argument isn't going to convince people to hand over their money for a website that drives no traffic and is effectively useless in producing the bottom line. If you're offering a service, drill down to what people are looking for in traffic for sales.

Besides, I can improve these websites within an hour. Elementor is cheap, and ChatGPT is easy to use. Why would I pay you $650 for articles that don't convert, drive no traffic, and add no value to me?

Your Youtube Channel
You have evergreen content on your channel, but I find your subscribers vs views strange. You have 191k subs on YouTube, but only:

2.6k followers on X
~500 on Facebook
1600 on Instagram
12k on LinkedIn

There is usually more spillover onto other platforms.

I also find the direct proportionality of your views & subs rather strange.
View attachment 55637

Your engagement on all platforms is relatively low for such a big channel. We're talking thousands of views with a handful of comments. That doesn't make me confident that the content you produce will hook people & drive my sales.

Your Wikipedia Page
The majority of references are broken and lead to dead ends. Those highlighted are deadlines or irrelevant references.

View attachment 55638
I wouldn't be surprised if you wrote this to inflate some credibility. The facade falls quickly with more digging.

I've spent too long looking at this because I pulled on a thread, found an unravelling, and kept pulling. Your credibility has many gaps.

Your Purpose
I saw a phrase on your website that raised an eyebrow.
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Is the reason you're doing this to provide value, benefit businesses, fulfil a need, or fulfil your ego?

I would ask yourself this because from what I see of the writing, the websites, and you throwing money at advertising that clearly isn't working, you're wasting your time and have to try something else. That, or you're trying to find a shmuck to hand over $650 for a crappy website, then bounce.

I second this entire train of thought/conclusion.

2) If you do not have any plans with respect to how you will be generating traffic, I would recommend not buying (we build the websites from A to Z but do not offer link building, social media marketing or any other addon services)

This is akin to selling someone a car, and then saying, "I said I'd sell you the car, but you have to find the engine yourself."

If all you're doing is charging top dollar for WordPress templates and some trash AI-generated "articles," then I feel obligated to point out I genuinely have no idea how your ad was approved on this forum. Especially considering your "business" completely goes against the entire spirit of TMF .

Hell, if memory serves me correctly, within the first ~20 pages of TMF , MJ shits on "WordPress developers" who sell trash templates without providing any actual value to their client(s).

Furthermore, if your entire "business model" truly is trash WordPress templates, then I can confidently say your selling skills would be better applied to nearly any other avenue. You do have a solid future in guru'ing, however, as there will always be a sea of "WordPress developers" out there who want to create trash websites for 50k and then dip. You already have an audience.

It's a shame that the standards of this forum are dwindling so excessively.

Cheers.

 

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[Jon822]

My analogy would be that you are building a hotel and we are the construction crew:

1) You decide where to place it (so in our case, you choose your niche/domain)

2) We build it for you as best we can

3) You take it from there, in other words you market it and run it moving forward (building traffic, in our situation)

Maybe you can hire a team that builds the hotel for you and also promotes it but most will only offer construction.

Even when it comes to strictly Web development, specialization can go a lot further: one person who only does logo design, one person who handles the design and another in charge of the programming dimension.

I respect your opinion but do not believe that the team which builds the site should also have to promote it.

Ya nice try but your lame analogy isn't going to cover the fact you want to overcharge to drag and drop WordPress templates and type in a topic prompt to AI. Spenny gave you necessary criticism as someone in one of your ad targets and you doubled down on your shit product.

What's the opposite of a productocracy? A Facebookracy? Do better or quit wasting your money to advertise here.

 

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[Bounce Back]

If I was you I wouldn't even reply to the questions on price - doesn't even make sense 500 articles and wordpress setup for ~$600? That's nothing unless people value their time at $1/hour.

The only point that seems to matter here is AI-detection + plagiarism proofing and SEO results. Outside of that it is a commodity which is not surprising because it is commodity pricing so SEO is not going to be top quality in this case.

 

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[Devilery]

Is web design still profitable
I don't know I am scared of ai
I wanted to start a business of website building but the ai thing is stopping me

AI does NOT build websites, people use AI to support the website-building process. AI will replace the bottom-end providers, but the top will simply implement it into their own processes. AI technologies at least for now are human-prompt driven, HUMAN PROMPT DRIVEN, meaning they cannot replace anyone in any industry. High-skilled people replace low-skill people using AI. Smart humans replace dumb humans.

 

[Dockid]

Been meaning to also share some case study data, should have done so yesterday but forgot. Those who want to take a look at DN.org's traffic evolution can analyze the following screenshots (posting them in chronological order):

https://giganticwebsites.com/DNorg/DNorg_Stats.PNG
https://giganticwebsites.com/DNorg/DNorg_Stats2.PNG
https://giganticwebsites.com/DNorg/DNorg_Stats3.PNG
https://giganticwebsites.com/DNorg/DNorg_Stats4.PNG
https://giganticwebsites.com/DNorg/DNorg_Stats5.PNG

Looks like DN.org is pulling in no traffic according to SEMRUSH. Also the new Google update is aiming at cracking down on AI spam websites. Can you provide some keywords where Dn.org is ranking & pulling traffic from.

 

[Jon822]

I've done some digging; please correct me if I'm wrong. This may help with feedback on how you present yourself and your products.

The Products

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I wouldn't say your websites are beautiful. You may offer large quantities with gigantic websites, but the quality seems lacking. They look like basic WordPress templates cooked up in five minutes. It feels like it: the font, the slow image loading, the basic dry format. It's very 2010s, and I'm unsure who would pay a dollar for this. Even the simple use of engaging photos is not even utilised. The photos that are employed are low-quality stock images.

Some of the links are broken. I got redirected to the NBA on one of them. The effort level is on the floor.

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View attachment 55634
View attachment 55635
View attachment 55636

People have already addressed traffic concerns, which is reasonable. Using a "You Get What You See" argument isn't going to convince people to hand over their money for a website that drives no traffic and is effectively useless in producing the bottom line. If you're offering a service, drill down to what people are looking for in traffic for sales.

Besides, I can improve these websites within an hour. Elementor is cheap, and ChatGPT is easy to use. Why would I pay you $650 for articles that don't convert, drive no traffic, and add no value to me?

Your Youtube Channel
You have evergreen content on your channel, but I find your subscribers vs views strange. You have 191k subs on YouTube, but only:

2.6k followers on X
~500 on Facebook
1600 on Instagram
12k on LinkedIn

There is usually more spillover onto other platforms.

I also find the direct proportionality of your views & subs rather strange.
View attachment 55637

Your engagement on all platforms is relatively low for such a big channel. We're talking thousands of views with a handful of comments. That doesn't make me confident that the content you produce will hook people & drive my sales.

Your Wikipedia Page
The majority of references are broken and lead to dead ends. Those highlighted are deadlines or irrelevant references.

View attachment 55638
I wouldn't be surprised if you wrote this to inflate some credibility. The facade falls quickly with more digging.

I've spent too long looking at this because I pulled on a thread, found an unravelling, and kept pulling. Your credibility has many gaps.

Your Purpose
I saw a phrase on your website that raised an eyebrow.
View attachment 55640
Is the reason you're doing this to provide value, benefit businesses, fulfil a need, or fulfil your ego?

I would ask yourself this because from what I see of the writing, the websites, and you throwing money at advertising that clearly isn't working, you're wasting your time and have to try something else. That, or you're trying to find a shmuck to hand over $650 for a crappy website, then bounce.

I knew this was the case without even researching -- the ad, the "Fastlaner discount", all of it just screams garbage product hoping to reel in suckers who just don't want to deal with websites. Thanks for doing the due diligence and calling it out. It not only needed to be said so people are aware of what they are getting but it SHOULD also help the owner provide real value.

 

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[Spenny]

As mentioned earlier on in the thread: determine how much time it took you to create a website from start to finish (x hours) and then divide what we would have charged by x... that's what you'd be paying yourself per hour by doing it yourself.

If that value is greater than what you currently make per hour, it was worth it. If not, it wasn't.

You've got to be trolling.

Quick math lesson AGAIN.

Sales = (Article quantity + article quality)*Traffic

KEY SUCCESS CONDITIONS
Sales >> Amount invested
If Sales < Amount invested = squandering of capital

There is no evidence that $650 of investment will produce any value.

In your analogy, if you're a construction company making my hotel, you have no structural licenses, I have no evidence your staff is trained, and I have no guarantee that my building will collapse two days later. It's a poor deal.

You're focusing on the labour to make something, but it doesn't matter if it doesn't produce results. It's okay if you're doing trial and error, but that shouldn't cost someone $600.

@Andy Black I'm unsure how this ad was approved. I'm not asking it to be taken down, as it's a good case study of what not to provide to a customer. It's just a little confusing that the offer itself is pretty poor.

You remind me a lot of @rizbit's background and his Shananagans. There are a lot of cash grabs and no care for the customer—your approach would never be accepted on the forum.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I'm unsure how this ad was approved.

Sorry, but I don't spend countless hours of my time vetting advertisers, I let the community judge the merits of what someone is offering.

The rules on ads are pretty simple: No 4/5-figure coaching programs, no user offloading, and no affiliate marketing.

Hell, if memory serves me correctly, within the first ~20 pages of TMF , MJ shits on "WordPress developers" who sell trash templates without providing any actual value to their client(s).

Your memory isn't serving you correctly.

I never said this, EVER.

I have no issues with Wordpress devs who customize templates and sell them. I even bought a couple of them over the years.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

Will get right down to business: we create beautiful WordPress websites that are... let's just say content-rich on steroids. With 500 articles as the bare minimum and the sky being the limit in terms of maximum.

By leveraging the best of the best in terms of what genAI has to offer, you can essentially receive an Investopedia-level website at literally cents on the dollar. The type of website people needed VC funding for due to requiring a talented team of full-time writers can now be had at $x,xxx - $xx,xxx. Even $xxx for our introductory packages.

To sweeten the deal and as a way of introducing GiganticWebsites to the community, I've taken the liberty of setting up a dedicated page for Fastlane Forum members, one through which you can order at discounts that range from 30% to 50%:

GiganticWebsites.com - Fastlane Discounts

Please note that only one person per week can take advantage of said pricing. The page is currently live and will be removed after one order is placed, rinse and repeat each week.

First come, first served.

If you want to see what we can do, here are several projects we have completed:

• The DN.org domain name encyclopedia
• The How.To e-learning hub
• The Investing.co financial education platform
• The CoffeeBlog.com coffee enthusiast resource
• The Beads.co guide to everything bead-related
• The Cryptocurrency.Law multi-jurisdiction regulatory framework repository
• The Honest.pa roofing and contracting business
• The PremiumEV.com premium electric vehicle portal
• The Aethic Education section and most of the RemoveFile.com content
• The MarkMappr.com, TMTactics.com, LogoLegals.com, GlobalTMWiki.com and TrademarkMentor.com trademark expert sites
• The DogKora.com dog training blog

While I will be personally checking in from time to time (this is Andrei, the person behind GiganticWebsites, I also run the One Minute Economics YouTube channel in case some of you know me from there), the best way to reach us will always be sending an email to build@giganticwebsites.com. Unless something devastating happens, we always reply within hours or even minutes.

Looking forward to working with you!

 

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[GiganticWebsites]

Do the articles link between each other?

Upon request, yes. The same way, a wide range of other custom requests can be implemented, but an additional fee will be involved depending on the additional time/resources we have to deploy.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

Offer no longer available, so the Fastlane discount page has been removed.

Will do my best to offer another 30%-50% discount next week though.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

Can you provide some keywords that DN.org is currently ranking for on Google? Those stats show over 13k sessions in the last 30 days, it should be easy to provide me with some keywords if you're pulling in those numbers.

Not looking for SEO advice, just looking for some evidence that this website is pulling in that large volume of search traffic.

I don't have access to any reports, as they use the free MonsterInsights version (so what we can see through the WordPress backend is limited).

Plus, again, we do not offer any SEO services whatsoever and thus, how you generate traffic is entirely up to you.

WYSIWYG.

In other words, you can visit the website to check out past projects and should you order from us, you know what to expect: a website similar to those we have created thus far.

I'm sure developers will come along who promise the world in terms of SEO and that is their prerogative. We make zero SEO promises or traffic promises in general.

If you do not have plans with respect to how you will be generating traffic, I would advise against placing an order. Not saying this with any tongue-in-cheek intentions, just pointing out that I do not want to take on any burden of being responsible for SEO/traffic results.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

First: I think you did well on the copy on that fastlane page. It felt like a natural flow there so kudos.

Do you have any case studies / proof on SEO quality or results these articles generate? The price seems too good to be true (or high quality). This is especially relevant as you mention your company would do the keyword research.

I gotta imagine if you could do this well enough and at those prices you would have so many websites spun up and generating ad revenue it would just seem like a waste of time to offer this to others. (Is my current thought process).

This isn't meant to "grill" you but just allow you a good opportunity to elaborate here for everyone to consider.

Appreciate the thoughtful reply!

One important mention: keyword research is the only SEO-related service included in our packages. Other than that, we limit ourselves to the content dimension. More specifically, we do everything humanly possible to create excellent websites: setting up WordPress, designing the websites, keyword research + article creation and finally article publishing.

As of that point, you are on your own, so to speak. We can provide subscription-based packages to keep new content coming for existing customers but that's pretty much it. No link building whatsoever is offered.

As a courtesy, I can offer SEO consulting free of charge, within reason of course. For example, customers can run link building ideas by me and I can let them know if that's something I recommend or not. But I do not want to charge for link building because, to be honest, I think there are plenty of service providers who are better at it than me.

What I excel at is the content dimension. My very first business was an article writing one, worked with over 100 writers over the years. I also have quality content-oriented projects like the One Minute Economics YouTube channel under my belt (where despite me not currently publishing all that frequently, traffic is close to the 500,000 visit per month all-time high, almost exclusively via search nowadays; YouTube search + Google search in this case, of course) and all in all, I consider myself super-competent at all things content-related but average at SEO.

For that reason, I charge for the former and not for the latter.

In terms of results, please keep in mind that GiganticWebsites was launched during the second half of last year. As such, our oldest projects have been finalized in late 2023. Some of them are starting to grow nicely. For example, DN.org went from next to nothing initially to x,xxx monthly, indexing also chugging along nicely. But these projects are long-term plays and unless the owners want to play it dangerously by going the blackhat route, it will take time for impressive results to kick in. I'd say a good year or so until such a site really starts shining and becoming a solid traffic/revenue source.

Can you speed up the process via blackhat strategies? Sure, but you are essentially playing cat and mouse, with penalties just around the corner. And especially since many of our projects are built on excellent domain names (DN.org, How.To, Investing.co and so on), it's just not worth it in my view. But again, customers are free to pursue whichever SEO approach they deem appropriate, I'm just here to offer the occasional opinion free of charge if/when one is requested.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

When it seems too good to be true...

It probably is...

Put some of the sites they made in Semrush to see if there are any noteworthy results, see for yourself.

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Please read my reply to Bounce Back's post. The service has only been launched in H2 2023 and the oldest sites have been finalized in late 2023. Not nearly enough time for them to blossom. Furthermore, what customers choose to do in terms of SEO is entirely up to them, we do not offer link building.

This is the most straightforward service possible, What You See Is What You Get. Visit the Fastlane discount page mentioned in the first post and check out our 16 examples. If you are interested in a similar website at the (discounted) prices listed on the page, we'd love to work with you. If not, no problem at all.

Again, WYSIWYG.

One of the main reasons why I don't really want to expand by also offering link building is precisely the potential drama involved. As it is, we simply provide the websites and it will be apparent right from the beginning if we did a good job or a bad job on your project. If we were to also offer SEO services, it becomes far too tricky: some want to be extremely aggressive and demand near-instant results, others are willing to wait but don't want to spend money on quality links and so on.

 

[Hassassin]

Please read my reply to Bounce Back's post. The service has only been launched in H2 2023 and the oldest sites have been finalized in late 2023. Not nearly enough time for them to blossom. Furthermore, what customers choose to do in terms of SEO is entirely up to them, we do not offer link building.

This is the most straightforward service possible, What You See Is What You Get. Visit the Fastlane discount page mentioned in the first post and check out our 16 examples. If you are interested in a similar website at the (discounted) prices listed on the page, we'd love to work with you. If not, no problem at all.

Again, WYSIWYG.

One of the main reasons why I don't really want to expand by also offering link building is precisely the potential drama involved. As it is, we simply provide the websites and it will be apparent right from the beginning if we did a good job or a bad job on your project. If we were to also offer SEO services, it becomes far too tricky: some want to be extremely aggressive and demand near-instant results, others are willing to wait but don't want to spend money on quality links and so on.

Why would one subscribe to your service when a paid chatGPT subscription does most of what you're offering lol? Just struggling to see the business value of this offer. Even on the content side, is the content being attributed to an actual experienced author and aligned with EEAT guidelines etc.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

Why would one subscribe to your service when a paid chatGPT subscription does most of what you're offering lol? Just struggling to see the business value of this offer. Even on the content side, is the content being attributed to an actual experienced author and aligned with EEAT guidelines etc.

Because we have systems in place (including the human labor dimension) which enable us to do it at prices so low that it would not make sense for you to do it yourself. In other words, it would not be worth your time to do it yourself.

For example, we charge $682 for a website with 500 articles that we create from A to Z (this is the Fastlane discounted pricing) or $1,202 for one with 1,000 articles.

Why not try an experiment?

Create one yourself from A to Z and keep track of the time required to do so. Add it all up. How long it took you to design and tweak WordPress, how long it took you to manually edit theme files at least here and there, how long the keyword research process took, how long the article generation process took and how long the article publishing process took. Then simply divide $682 by that x value and compare it to how much you earn per hour from your current activity.

If you earn more than that, it makes sense to let us do it.

If you earn less than that, it makes sense to do it yourself.

 

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[Bounce Back]

Appreciate the thoughtful reply!

One important mention: keyword research is the only SEO-related service included in our packages. Other than that, we limit ourselves to the content dimension. More specifically, we do everything humanly possible to create excellent websites: setting up WordPress, designing the websites, keyword research + article creation and finally article publishing.

As of that point, you are on your own, so to speak. We can provide subscription-based packages to keep new content coming for existing customers but that's pretty much it. No link building whatsoever is offered.

As a courtesy, I can offer SEO consulting free of charge, within reason of course. For example, customers can run link building ideas by me and I can let them know if that's something I recommend or not. But I do not want to charge for link building because, to be honest, I think there are plenty of service providers who are better at it than me.

What I excel at is the content dimension. My very first business was an article writing one, worked with over 100 writers over the years. I also have quality content-oriented projects like the One Minute Economics YouTube channel under my belt (where despite me not currently publishing all that frequently, traffic is close to the 500,000 visit per month all-time high, almost exclusively via search nowadays; YouTube search + Google search in this case, of course) and all in all, I consider myself super-competent at all things content-related but average at SEO.

For that reason, I charge for the former and not for the latter.

In terms of results, please keep in mind that GiganticWebsites was launched during the second half of last year. As such, our oldest projects have been finalized in late 2023. Some of them are starting to grow nicely. For example, DN.org went from next to nothing initially to x,xxx monthly, indexing also chugging along nicely. But these projects are long-term plays and unless the owners want to play it dangerously by going the blackhat route, it will take time for impressive results to kick in. I'd say a good year or so until such a site really starts shining and becoming a solid traffic/revenue source.

Can you speed up the process via blackhat strategies? Sure, but you are essentially playing cat and mouse, with penalties just around the corner. And especially since many of our projects are built on excellent domain names (DN.org, How.To, Investing.co and so on), it's just not worth it in my view. But again, customers are free to pursue whichever SEO approach they deem appropriate, I'm just here to offer the occasional opinion free of charge if/when one is requested.

Thank you for the thorough reply.

Would you mind sharing a bit more on how you do keyword research? For instance I am building a commercial cleaning management SAAS - I have recently been recommended to use lowfruits.io and have started messing with it a bit. Do you use a similar tool? What sort of strategies do you use to pick the keywords to focus on?

RE:SEO I am not sure I fully got your answer. It is my understanding the content largely impacts the SEO so are the articles ran through SEO prediction software and re-ran through AI if they are too low? Or is it really just keywords picked looped through AI and some script dumps them in Wordpress? Not knocking it if so (the price would make sense then) just want to hone in on that piece. (Note: I am genuinely a prospective customer as I don't really want to waste time making content for my new site I just want to get some SEO going and don't need millions of visitors just targeted - commercial cleaning business owners).

 

[GiganticWebsites]

Thank you for the thorough reply.

Would you mind sharing a bit more on how you do keyword research? For instance I am building a commercial cleaning management SAAS - I have recently been recommended to use lowfruits.io and have started messing with it a bit. Do you use a similar tool? What sort of strategies do you use to pick the keywords to focus on?

RE:SEO I am not sure I fully got your answer. It is my understanding the content largely impacts the SEO so are the articles ran through SEO prediction software and re-ran through AI if they are too low? Or is it really just keywords picked looped through AI and some script dumps them in Wordpress? Not knocking it if so (the price would make sense then) just want to hone in on that piece. (Note: I am genuinely a prospective customer as I don't really want to waste time making content for my new site I just want to get some SEO going and don't need millions of visitors just targeted - commercial cleaning business owners).

These sites can be a good fit for your niche in my view, primarily the boring "bread and butter" keywords thereof. For keyword research, the ahrefs keyword generator in conjunction with AI works quite well. That being stated, we can switch to customer-provided tools upon request and/or incorporate customer suggestions, but need to be informed at the very beginning of our collaboration in such instances.

Content definitely impacts SEO but with smart prompt engineering, there is no need to run the articles through SEO prediction software and then once again through AI. Can it be done? Yes. But we would have to charge extra for these steps (unlike with customer-provided keyword research tool utilization) and it would be overkill, just not worth it. We have actually had a super-specific request relatively recently but after crunching the numbers and figuring out how much we would charge, the customer ended up simply going with the standard package.

 

[StrikingViper69]

I took a look at the coffee blog. It’s not mobile optimised so I’m glad my phone had a reader option.

The articles read like AI articles: lots of words but they don’t really say anything.

But maybe that’s what people want.

Are you willing to share traffic reports from any of these sites? What’s the longest any of these sites have been online?

 

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[GiganticWebsites]

I took a look at the coffee blog. It’s not mobile optimised so I’m glad my phone had a reader option.

The articles read like AI articles: lots of words but they don’t really say anything.

But maybe that’s what people want.

Are you willing to share traffic reports from any of these sites? What’s the longest any of these sites have been online?

These articles have pros and cons, just like everything else.

On the con side, they definitely sound boring, however they do tend to be reasonably fact-dense. I've worked with a lot of writers over the years and have read my share of human-written fluff, I'd say AI articles are better in this department. Not ideal, but overall better. Also on the plus side, the grammar is impeccable. We've delivered xxx,xxx articles across quite a few websites thus far, I think you can take them one by one and would be hard-pressed to find even 100 grammar errors.

CoffeeBlog does indeed have a theme that's not mobile-optimized, a choice made for that particular project. However, the overwhelming majority of the sites do have a mobile version. Come to think of it, CoffeeBlog may very well be the only exception, heh.

I've shared traffic stats for DN.org in my reply to this thread's first comment. While x,xxx monthly visits are hardly exciting, I'd say it's not too shabby for a site that had practically zero traffic to begin with and was only launched late last year. DN.org is our oldest one, in fact. And when it comes to SEO results, 1-3 months is nowhere near long enough to draw conclusions. Unless you deploy blackhat link building, but that's an entirely different topic and a route I do not recommend. Especially for high-quality domains like DN.org or Investing.co.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

Under normal circumstances, as per the "first come, first served" principle, the deal should no longer be on the table.

However, since I am genuinely happy that I came across a forum that is not dead (quite rare nowadays!), I booked the following 7-day sitewide ad:

Forum Notice, Top of Fold $295.00 for 7 days

Thus, until the 7-day ad campaign in question is finalized, the offer is still no the table regardless of how many people take advantage of it.

That being stated, quick question: who should I send the title + description + URL to?

I've made the payment, the upgrade appears to be activated in my "account upgrades" section but I don't see any instructions as to how I should proceed.

 

[journeyman]

Friendly warning, I was curious to check out the website but it seems to be down...

 

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[GiganticWebsites]

Friendly warning, I was curious to check out the website but it seems to be down...

Hmm, must have been either a temporary server hiccup on our end or something ISP-related on your end, the site is currently running smoothly. Appreciate the message!

 

[EternalStudent]

Compelling offer. How specific can the niches be? With topics like dogs and coffee it seems easy for AI to spin up many different articles. What if my niche is marketing compliance and trade promotions in Australia? On the topic of compliance, how do you manage plagiarism risk? Considering the training data for the articles would be other people's blogs... That is a risk.

 

[GiganticWebsites]

Another DN.org traffic update, happy with the progress. The previous screenshot that has been shared was taken approximately two weeks ago. Not too shabby!

Keep in mind that the project is only a few months old, and our other sites are even younger.

Patience is being rewarded and will continue to be rewarded more and more aggressively in my view. Time to get back to work!

 

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