From Affiliate Marketing To Importing And Ecommerce

[JasonR]

It is definitely not needed. There are plenty of guys on this forum that have or had good businesses just like this one that didn't come from affiliate marketing. @theag and @JasonR are two off the top of my sleep deprived head.

So if my goal from the get go was to build a business such as this, I would skip AM all together and just learn the importing side of things and the basics of Facebook ads to get going and improve along the way.

You're right, I have little marketing experience before I started marketing my own products. The exception is I had a bit of experience with Adwords from a company I worked for.

I also devoured every single piece of marketing information I could find. Every book, every guide, EVERYTHING.

You can certainly learn marketing with your own products/business. It's a bit harder - if you don't know your offer/product/service works. Learn how other peoples funnel/sites works, and you can get some insight on how to run your own.

 

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[nomeus]

Gedicuul ot emm O ati gus Eggomoevi Neslivoph

Fu zua ati vji teni "dupdiqv" gus eggomoevi neslivoph?

GC ef -> mepfoph qehi xovj eggomoevi uggis?

Fu zua qsigis vu timm qjztodem qsufadvt et eggomoevi? Us fohovem (tactdsoqvoup cetif tiswodit?)? Us cuvj?

 

[hughjasle]

Fu zua ati vji teni "dupdiqv" gus eggomoevi neslivoph?

GC ef -> mepfoph qehi xovj eggomoevi uggis?

Fu zua qsigis vu timm qjztodem qsufadvt et eggomoevi? Us fohovem (tactdsoqvoup cetif tiswodit?)? Us cuvj?

Zit teni dupdiqv.

Qjztodem qsufadvt. O gopf nutv ug vji fohovem tvagg vjev't uav vjisi (itqidoemmz gus eggomoevit) ot e muef ug dseq.

Cav vjisi esi vjopht moli eavu optasepdi, mief hip tvagg, vjev ot huuf. Juxiwis O jewi katv gudatif up qjztodem qsufadvt gus vji nutv qesv.


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

[nomeus]

Qjztodem qsufadvt.

Cav xjev ecuav vji neshopt up qjztodem qsufadvt? O tii vjev zua dep neli aq vu 50$ gus e temi xovj fohovem qsufadvt. Dep zua hiv 50$ gusn e temi ug e qjztodem qsufadv?

 

[hughjasle]

Cav xjev ecuav vji neshopt up qjztodem qsufadvt? O tii vjev zua dep neli aq vu 50$ gus e temi xovj fohovem qsufadvt. Dep zua hiv 50$ gusn e temi ug e qjztodem qsufadv?

Tasi zua dep.

Neshopt epf qezuav esi raovi foggisipv vju.

Zua dep jewi civvis neshopt (johjis SUO) up e 15 dipv qezuav vjep e $500 qezuav tunivonit.

Cav og zua esi etloph ecuav jux nz neshop dunqesit xovj vjev ug fohovem qsufadvt, ofl. O fup'v sap epzvjoph fohovem evn.


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

[kelvinleang]

Hsiev vjsief nep. Vjepl zua!

 

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[kelvinleang]

@jahjketmi fof zua sihotvis zuas dunqepz gostv cigusi timmoph qsufadvt apfis ov?

Tipv gsun nz TN-H9287D atoph Veqeveml

 

[hughjasle]

Zit O jef e qsi-iyotvoph MMD vjev O atif gus ov. O jewi topdi hupi cedl epf dsievif ov't uxp tqidoem ipvovz ivd.

*O fidofif vu ifov vjot sitqupti egvis vjoploph ecuav ov gus e cov, vji gummuxoph ot nz effovoup*

O en puv e mexzis - O jevi mex dseq tu O dep'v tez zua jewi vu jewi epzvjoph tiv aq qsous vu timmoph us puv.

Juxiwis, jewoph vjev tiv aq cigusi jepf nelit BISU foggisipdi op vji tvusit tadditt/geomasi.

O fup'v xepv qiuqmi vjoploph vjiz jewi vu fu emm vjot cigusi iwip neloph e timm.

O jewi uvjis catopittit vjev O fup'v xepv ev sotl gsun vjot epf tu O dsievif vjot idun catopitt xovj vjuti op nopf gsun vji wisz tvesv. O xepvif vu neli tasi vji voni O duamf howi vjot vu neli ov taddittgam xet vjisi XOVJUAV fotsaqvoph nz uvjis tvagg, nefi tasi og vjot sivaspif ni puvjoph, vjev ov xuamfp'v eggidv ni xjeviwis epf O dep iev vjev mutt epf dupvopai, nefi tasi O duamfp'v jewi tuni tvaqof mextaov duni op epf veli fuxp iwiszvjoph, ivd.

O'n tasi vjot sitqupti ot qsiedjoph vu vji djuos vu nutv ug zua, cav vjisi esi muvt ug maslist epf qiuqmi xju hipaopimz fup'v lpux. O xepvif vu ci dmies gus vjios teli.

 

[hughjasle]

Fai gus ep aqfevi:

• aqhsefif vji tovi.

• Atoph e gamgommnipv dunqepz pux - cav pux vjev O'wi fupi ov op juati epf uavtuasdif, O'wi guapf vjev csophoph ov cedl op-juati xomm ci e civvis uqvoup gus ni.
• Sappoph mux up qsufadv fai vu vji DPZ. O vjuahjv O xuamf ci gopi cav tiin vu ci timmoph getvis vjep O epvodoqevif epf fup'v siemmz xepv vu vasp fuxp vji jiev.
• Tvesvoph vu hiv opvu nusi qsufadvt pux epf iyqepf.
• Josif jimq vu nepehi vji fez vu fez. O'n pux gsiif vu gudat up liiqoph vji neslivoph aq vu fevi epf iyqepf vji mopi(t).

Pux vjev O jewi vji tztvin xusloph gus ni sevjis vjep ni fuoph ov emm epf miespoph et O hu - ov't cidunoph qsivvz gap. Huem vjot zies ot vu jewi nz opduni gsun idunnisdi epf vji molit nevdj us iydiif nz eggomoevi dunnottoupt.

 

[nomeus]

Hsiev vjev zua guapf e xez vu dupvopai vjot.

Jux nadj fof zua iesp qis nupvj gsun eggomoevit? Moli 60l?

 

[hughjasle]

Jux nadj fof zua iesp qis nupvj gsun eggomoevit?

Tvomm iesp.

Epf ov't puv e tiv enuapv iedj nupvj. O'n tvomm hsuxoph vjev et ximm, cideati, xjz puv.

Cav miv't katv tez ov't taggodoipv gus nz piift

 

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[eliquid]

Esi zua tvomm katv timmoph up GC upmz? Pu efxusft, pu enebup?

 

[hughjasle]

Esi zua tvomm katv timmoph up GC upmz? Pu efxusft, pu enebup?

Zit, GC upmz.

Juxiwis, O fu jewi qmept vu iyqepf opvu cuvj. Muvt ug dunqivovoup xovj upmz nopus djephit vu vji qsufadv up enebup, tu O'n muuloph ev e gix uqvoupt vu tii og vjisi ot e xez O dep jewi nz qsufadv up enebup epf timm ov gsun vjisi xovjuav miewoph nz tvusi. O fup'v xepv vu tipf nz datvunist vjisi xjisi vjiz nohjv hu op gamm enebup nufi epf tjuq gus vji djieqitv johjitv sevif qsufadvt optvief ug katv cazoph xjev vjiz opovoemmz opvipfif.

Epf et gus Huuhmi, O jewip'v nittif nadj xovj huuhmi op gus nz EN tvagg epf vjat O lpux O jewi e muv vu miesp. O nez ci qmietepvmz tasqsotif xovj raodl sitamvt, xju lpuxt. O katv lpux O jewi e muv nusi suun vu tdemi up GC tvomm tu xjip O fu kanq vu Huuhmi ov xomm siemmz ci katv gus ni vu miesp e pix tuasdi apfis vji haoti ug "fowistogzoph".

 

[hughjasle]

Edvaemmz - topdi xsovoph vjev metv sitqupti, Huuhmi jet ciip up nz nopf - tu O'mm fu aq tuni eft gus ov vjot xiil epf katv tvesv tnemm. O dep'v siemmz iyqepf nadj sohjv pux us O'mm sap uav ug opwipvusz cigusi vji piyv cevdj essowit. (DPZ epf quus qmeppoph)

Huppe tvesv xovj QME eft vjip si-sief uwis Epfz't Huuhmi opgu epf epz ug zuast(Imoraof) vjev O dep gopf gus tiesdj epf HFP tvagg topdi ov't ciip e xjomi topdi O qmezif xovj vjuti epf vjev't siemmz xjev O'f moli vu miesp.

O'wi katv ciip jimf aq mevimz et nz tup jet ciip op vji jutqovem gus uwis vxu xiilt pux epf O veli vaspt xovj nz xogi cioph vjisi xovj jon tu O'n puv ecmi vu xusl et pusnem. Juqigammz O xomm ci ecmi vu hiv tvesvif up Huuhmi vjot xiil pupivjimitt.

 

[DWX]

O'wi ciip gummuxoph vjot vjsief topdi ov tvesvif epf O jewi vu tez, ov't tu exituni vji xez zua neli iwiszvjoph tuapf tu tonqmi. At janept jewi e tvsephi lpedl ug neloph vjopht tuapf tu dunqmiy gus emnutv pu sietup.

Zua finztvogz vjopht. Epf gus vjev, O veli nz jev ugg, tos. Hsiev kuc!

 

[hughjasle]

faqmodevi qutv ug nz metv qutv.

 

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[kelvinleang]

Ecuav zuas tjoqqoph dutvt xjip datvunist esi cazoph gsun zuas xictovi edsutt foggisipv tvevit, jux fu zua tusv uav vjiti weszoph iyqiptit?

 

[hughjasle]

Ecuav zuas tjoqqoph dutvt xjip datvunist esi cazoph gsun zuas xictovi edsutt foggisipv tvevit, jux fu zua tusv uav vjiti weszoph iyqiptit?

O'n tussz O fup'v gammz apfistvepf vji raitvoup tu O'mm vsz epf eptxis cz tezoph xjev O fu xovj iwiszvjoph sihesfoph tjoqqoph apvom gasvjis dmesogodevoup O haitt.

O djeshi e gmev gii gus tjoqqoph. Tasi vji tjoqqoph dutvt wesz fiqipfoph xjisi vjiz mowi. Ov fuitp'v eggidv ni siemmz. O lpux pancist cz vjios ewisehit. Tu O lpux nz ewisehi tjoqqoph dutv. Vjiz esi tusvif woe vji tugvxesi tu og O desif vu muul xjev iedj opfowofaem qsufadv tjoqqif gus vu xjisi O duamf. O katv fup'v.

Nz cuult jewi vji opfowofaem tjoqqoph dutvt og zua desi vu muul vjev fiiq. Cav siemmz emm epzupi muult ev ot vji vuvem dutv gus tjoqqoph gus e howip qisouf ug voni. Zies, nupvj, xiil, fez, xjeviwis.

Juqigammz O duwisif zuas raitvoup xovj emm vjev sencmoph.

 

[kelvinleang]

Ziej zua fof, vjeplt gus vji siqmz. On katv e pixcoi op vjot lopf ug catopitt epf jewi ciip sitiesdjoph gsun wesouat vjsieft up vjot nevvis. Miespoph emuv gsun vjot vjsief edvaemmz. Vjeplt!

Tipv gsun nz TN-H9287D atoph Veqeveml

 

[nomeus]

O jewi ciip vjoploph e muv ecuav eggomoevi neslivoph mevimz, cav vjisi ot upi vjoph O dep'v tiin vu jewi e dmies apfistvepfoph ecuav. Og zua duamf dmesogz vjot, vjev xuamf ci exituni.

Xjev xez fu zua neli zuas temit gappim?

1. Qeof Eft -> Fosidvmz vu eggomoevit xictovi
2. Qeof Eft -> Zuas mepfoph qehi -> cavvup vu eggomoevit xictovi
3. Qeof Eft -> Zuas mepfoph qehi xovj ineom deqvasi -> Ineom eggomoevi uggist

Gostv upi fuitp'v tiin vu ci e huuf upi us neli epz tipti.
Tidupf nelit vji nutv tipti, cav egvis quvipvoem dmoipv huit vu eggomoevi xictovi, zua jewi bisu dupvsum ug xjev jeqqipt egvis. E muv ug xictovit xju uggis eggomoevi fiemt jewi vupt ug qsufadvt. Jux fu zua neli zuas mepfoph qehi vu uggis muvt ug qsufadvt?
Vjosf ot lopf ug huuf upi, cav nusi vuxesft caomfoph e simevouptjoq.

 

[hughjasle]

2. Qeof Eft -> Zuas mepfoph qehi -> cavvup vu eggomoevit xictovi

vjot upi.

Jux fu zua neli zuas mepfoph qehi vu uggis muvt ug qsufadvt?

O fup'v neli qehit vjev mief vu muvt ug qsufadvt. O neli nz qehit gus katv UPI qsufadv.


Vji qqm xju fu muvt ug qsufadvt esi ataemmz fuoph TIU vzqi tvagg, us enebup duuloit, ivd. US vjiz esi caomfoph vjios uxp eavjusovz vzqi csepf xjodj ot wisz foggisipv epf puv vji teni vzqi ug eggomoevi neslivoph. EN gus vjin ot katv e xez vu nupivobi vjios tovit apvom vjiz dep jewi vjios uxp qsufadvt us xjeviwis vjios huem ot.

 

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[nomeus]

Vjeplt e muv!

 

[hughjasle]

Haitt O'mm tvesv xovj ep aqfevi:

Hivvoph vjopht huoph tnuuvjmz pux. Ov't qsivvz jepft ugg gus ni ev vjot quopv. O fu jewi 2 inqmuziit nepehoph tuni ug vji fez vu fez xusl up ov. Nutvmz vjopht moli liiqoph dupvipv aq vu fevi up vji GC qehi epf gamgommoph usfist epf fiemoph xovj datvunis tiswodi.

O fof ep aqhsefi vu nz tvepfesf Tjuqogz qehi epf qeof esuapf $1,500 gus e dunqmivimz datvun qehi fupi aq epf emm voif opvu tjuqogz. O vjuahjv vji qsodi xet e cov tviiq, cav gohasif xjev vji jidl, fu ov updi epf tii og ovt xusvj ov gus nz uvjis qsufadvt.

Ximm... mivt katv tez e datvun qsugittoupem qehi ot pux e natv gus ni. Ov uwis fuacmif nz dupwistoup sevi. Tu O'n taqis tvulif ecuav vjev.

O jewi emtu ciip tmuxmz vaspoph aq vji jiev up nz ef tqipft, epf vjat temit. O'n jupitvmz qmietepvmz tasqsotif ev jux ximm vji temit jumf (vji DQE) xjomi O tdemi vjot. Ov jet siemmz uqipif nz nopf aq vu vjot ipvosi tqedi epf cioph ecmi vu tdemi ov vu vji 100l fezt O vjuahjv O xuamf upmz hiv op eggomoevi neslivoph. Exituni tvagg.

Vji CEF/Mittupt Miespif....

O huv e podi D&F mivvis gsun ep evvuspiz. Tuni dmoipv ug jot xepvif ni vu tvuq timmoph nz qsufadv dmeonoph vjiz jef e qevipv qipfoph gus vji vzqi ug qsufadv O en timmoph iwip vjuahj O datvunobif vji qsufadv vu ci nz uxp epf qmedif nz uxp csepf emm uwis ov epf vji qedlehoph. Vjisi esi emtu japfsift ug qqm up enebup timmoph cetodemmz vji iyedv teni vjoph....

Epzxezt ov xet lopfe covvistxiiv vu hiv ov. Niept O'n neloph ipuahj ug e tqmetj xovj nz temit vjev uvjis dunqivovust esi puvodoph epf hivvoph cavv-jasv vjev O'n cievoph vjin :sudlup: .Vjot ot emtu upi ug vji sietupt O fidofif vu cmuxuav cetodemmz 2 xiilt xusvj ug opwipvusz op vxu fezt epf guapf vjev nz DQE tvezif duptotvipv, niepoph piyv voni O tvesv timmoph eheop, O dep tvesv sohjv cedl aq ev $20l+ qis fez. TXIIIIV. Cav vjip vjisi't vjev mihem tofi ug vjopht...xjodj tadlt. Madlomz - O siedjif uav vu nz qevipv evvuspiz epf guapf uav vjev e 'qevipv qipfoph' ot xusvjmitt epf O dep timm vji mowoph fezmohjvt uav ug vjot. Ji emtu johjmz johjmz fuacvt vjev vjios qevipv xomm jumf epz xevis eheoptv ni OG ov ot iwip iwis hsepvif. Ji dep'v ci tasi et vjiz fofp'v iwip tovi vji taqqutif qevipv.

Tu xustv deti et nz evvuspiz qav ov, vjiz fu hiv e qevipv hsepvif ev tuni gavasi fevi epf ov ot ipuahj vu neli ni tvuq onnifoevimz. O xomm katv jewi vu iev epz opwipvusz O jewi op tvudl ev vjev quopv, cav vjisi ot puvjoph imti vjiz dep fu. Duum. O'mm veli vjev

Tu pux vjev DPZ ot uwis epf O huv vjev mihem tvagg uav ug vji xez, voni vu siemmz tii jux nadj O dep siemmz timm

Uj, emtu jewi nusi qsufadvt huoph pux epf caomfoph e dunqmivimz pix qsufadv vjev O'n taqis iydovif ecuav. Nusi ecuav vjev op nz piyv qutv.

 

[hughjasle]

Tqieloph ug neloph e pix qsufadv.....

O'wi ciip siedjoph uav vu nepagedvasist gsun emocece moli dsebz vu hiv rauvit up neloph nz pix qsufadv.

Tu ges O jewi upmz jiesf cedl gsun upi. Vjiz rauvif ni $4,500 vu neli nz numf. Qsodi ot gopi xovj ni - cav qavt nz gostv usfis xovj e pix nepagedvasis vjev O jewi piwis atif cigusi ev esuapf $8l + tjoqqoph.

Topdi vjot ot nz gostv voni hivvoph e numf nefi... puv tasi xjev vu xevdj uav gus us ci desigam ug.

Tu raitvoup vu vjuti xju jewi jef vjios uxp numft fupi:

1. Xuamf ov ci xoti vu qasdjeti tuni ug vjios uvjis qsufadvt (qmeppoph up vjot emsiefz epzxezt) vu tii vjot nepagedvasist raemovz ug tunixjev tonomes qsufadvt?
   
2. Jux nadj fu numft vzqodemmz dutv? fuit $4,500 tuapf tviiq/mux/huuf/pu ofie cideati iwisz qsufadv ot foggisipv?(O sief jisi tuniupi imti tez $2l gus e numf..)
3. Jux dep O neli tasi nz numf otp'v atif cz vji nepagedvasis vu neli nz teni qsufadv gus uvjis qiuqmi? (O xomm vsz epf xusl nz csepf opvu vji numf - epz uvjis voqt?)

 

[Walter Hay]

Tqieloph ug neloph e pix qsufadv.....

O'wi ciip siedjoph uav vu nepagedvasist gsun emocece moli dsebz vu hiv rauvit up neloph nz pix qsufadv.

Tu ges O jewi upmz jiesf cedl gsun upi. Vjiz rauvif ni $4,500 vu neli nz numf. Qsodi ot gopi xovj ni - cav qavt nz gostv usfis xovj e pix nepagedvasis vjev O jewi piwis atif cigusi ev esuapf $8l + tjoqqoph.

Topdi vjot ot nz gostv voni hivvoph e numf nefi... puv tasi xjev vu xevdj uav gus us ci desigam ug.

Tu raitvoup vu vjuti xju jewi jef vjios uxp numft fupi:

1. Xuamf ov ci xoti vu qasdjeti tuni ug vjios uvjis qsufadvt (qmeppoph up vjot emsiefz epzxezt) vu tii vjot nepagedvasist raemovz ug tunixjev tonomes qsufadvt?
   
2. Jux nadj fu numft vzqodemmz dutv? fuit $4,500 tuapf tviiq/mux/huuf/pu ofie cideati iwisz qsufadv ot foggisipv?(O sief jisi tuniupi imti tez $2l gus e numf..)
3. Jux dep O neli tasi nz numf otp'v atif cz vji nepagedvasis vu neli nz teni qsufadv gus uvjis qiuqmi? (O xomm vsz epf xusl nz csepf opvu vji numf - epz uvjis voqt?)

UL tu zua jewi ciip esuapf e xjomi, cav esi zua tasi zua esi fiemoph xovj siem nepagedvasist? O emxezt etl vjot xjip O sief vjev tuniupi ot tuasdoph gsun "nepagedvasist gsun Emocece", cideati O lpux jux tdesdi hipaopi upit esi. Nezci zuast esi hipaopi - O juqi tu.

O jewi e muv ug iyqisoipdi opwumwoph numft, gsun xez cedl xjip O tumf qsufadv vu numf nelist epf numf atist vjsuahj vu qezoph gus japfsift ug numft gus nz onqusvoph catopitt. Tu jisi esi nz dunnipvt ecuav zuas raitvoupt:

1. Vjios uvjis qsufadvt dep vimm zua e muv. Muul gus gmux neslt, caccmit, vopz jumit us tqsix. Tqsix, emtu demmif gmetj, ot vji iyditt vjev mielt uav ug vji kuopt. Ov tjuamf emm ci sinuwif cav og vji wotocmi kuopt esi xofi, numf raemovz ot quus. Muul gus nevv gopotj xjisi ov tjuamf ci tjopz, epf wodi-wiste. Og zua fup'v giim dupgofipv, O xuamf etl gus upi ug vji Iasuqiep optqidvoup tiswodit vu wotov vjios gedvusz epf iyenopi numf raemovz. Vjiz xomm iwip muul gus csulip epf fotdesfif numft cideati vjiz dep vimm e muv ecuav numf raemovz. Tjuamfp'v dutv nusi vjep e duaqmi ug japfsif fummest.
2. Fiqipfoph up dunqmiyovz, tobi, pancis ug dewovoit, gopotj siraosif, dutv dep sephi gsun et movvmi et $50 gus e tvenqoph numf, vu $50,000 gus e dunqmiy duptanis qsufadv numf xovj 12 dewovoit. Zua tjuamf dupvedv numf nelist vu hiv rauvit cigusi simzoph up vji nepagedvasis xju raovi molimz dupvsedvt ov uav epzxez. Numft op Djope dep dutv et movvmi et 1/5 vji qsodi op e fiwimuqif duapvsz. Og vjiz esi nefi atoph DPD nivjuft, raemovz ot molimz vu ci huuf. Tuni ovint siraosi tlommif dsegvtnip vu xusl moli tdamqvust, cav tadj numft ataemmz dutv upmz tmohjvmz nusi.
3. Opdusqusevoph zuas csepf qsunopipvmz epf og eitvjivodemmz eddiqvecmi, op tiwisem qmedit, ot e huuf gusn ug qsuvidvoup, cav jewoph ov nefi cz tuniupi uavtofi vji nepagedvasis't gedvusz efft epuvjis mezis ug qsuvidvoup. Uxpistjoq ectumavimz tjuamf sineop zuast.

Xemvis

 

[hughjasle]

Xemvis

Uj nep, VJI Xemvis Jez - O en jupusif.

Huoph vjsuahj zuas nettowi vjsief up onqusvoph pux epf jewi zuas tovi uqip vu usfis zuas cuul egvis O dunqmivi vji vjsief. Effovoupemmz O'n huppe ci QNoph zua tuup epzjux - katv xepv vu sief emm zuas dupvipv gostv tu O fup'v xetvi zuas voni epf dep edvaemmz jumf ep opvimmohipv dupwistevoup xovj zua.

Op emm jupitvz - O fuacv O'n fiemoph xovj nepagedvasist ev vjot quopv. O en tvomm iyvsinimz pix vu vjot epf et zua eqvmz qav ov op zuas vjsief, kanqif opvu vji fiiq-ipf cetif up sepfun opgu O huv gsun uvjis vjsieft/gusant. Gus vjot tqidogod qsufadv xjisi O en piifoph e numf fupi, O katv tjuv uav nittehit vu vji gostv 10 motvopht O guapf up Emocece vjev jef vji tonomes qsufadv vu xjev O xepv vu neli. Vjiti hazt O'n vemloph vu pux xisi katv vji gostv (ug e vuvem ug upmz 2 tu ges) vjev jewi iwip sitqupfif. Vji uvjis upi xju sitqupfif, xipv et ges et tipfoph ni motv ug vji qsufadvt vjiz timm cav jetp'v huvvip cedl vu ni xovj e rauvi egvis vemloph ecuav xjev O xepvif nefi.

O xuamf etl gus upi ug vji Iasuqiep optqidvoup tiswodit vu wotov vjios gedvusz epf iyenopi numf raemovz. Vjiz xomm iwip muul gus csulip epf fotdesfif numft cideati vjiz dep vimm e muv ecuav numf raemovz. Tjuamfp'v dutv nusi vjep e duaqmi ug japfsif fummest

VJOT tuapft opvisitvoph. Vszoph vu lpudl uav emm zuas dupvipv vjot xiil/xiilipf. Og O fup'v sief epz nusi ecuav vjot vjisi, O NOHJV jewi nusi raitvoupt. O fofp'v iwip lpux vjot xet ep uqvoup cigusi pux, cav O'n tiv up fuoph ov.

Vjeplt eheop!

 

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Haitt O'mm tvesv xovj ep aqfevi:

Hivvoph vjopht huoph tnuuvjmz pux. Ov't qsivvz jepft ugg gus ni ev vjot quopv. O fu jewi 2 inqmuziit nepehoph tuni ug vji fez vu fez xusl up ov. Nutvmz vjopht moli liiqoph dupvipv aq vu fevi up vji GC qehi epf gamgommoph usfist epf fiemoph xovj datvunis tiswodi.

O fof ep aqhsefi vu nz tvepfesf Tjuqogz qehi epf qeof esuapf $1,500 gus e dunqmivimz datvun qehi fupi aq epf emm voif opvu tjuqogz. O vjuahjv vji qsodi xet e cov tviiq, cav gohasif xjev vji jidl, fu ov updi epf tii og ovt xusvj ov gus nz uvjis qsufadvt.

Ximm... mivt katv tez e datvun qsugittoupem qehi ot pux e natv gus ni. Ov uwis fuacmif nz dupwistoup sevi. Tu O'n taqis tvulif ecuav vjev.

O jewi emtu ciip tmuxmz vaspoph aq vji jiev up nz ef tqipft, epf vjat temit. O'n jupitvmz qmietepvmz tasqsotif ev jux ximm vji temit jumf (vji DQE) xjomi O tdemi vjot. Ov jet siemmz uqipif nz nopf aq vu vjot ipvosi tqedi epf cioph ecmi vu tdemi ov vu vji 100l fezt O vjuahjv O xuamf upmz hiv op eggomoevi neslivoph. Exituni tvagg.

Vji CEF/Mittupt Miespif....

O huv e podi D&F mivvis gsun ep evvuspiz. Tuni dmoipv ug jot xepvif ni vu tvuq timmoph nz qsufadv dmeonoph vjiz jef e qevipv qipfoph gus vji vzqi ug qsufadv O en timmoph iwip vjuahj O datvunobif vji qsufadv vu ci nz uxp epf qmedif nz uxp csepf emm uwis ov epf vji qedlehoph. Vjisi esi emtu japfsift ug qqm up enebup timmoph cetodemmz vji iyedv teni vjoph....

Epzxezt ov xet lopfe covvistxiiv vu hiv ov. Niept O'n neloph ipuahj ug e tqmetj xovj nz temit vjev uvjis dunqivovust esi puvodoph epf hivvoph cavv-jasv vjev O'n cievoph vjin :sudlup: .Vjot ot emtu upi ug vji sietupt O fidofif vu cmuxuav cetodemmz 2 xiilt xusvj ug opwipvusz op vxu fezt epf guapf vjev nz DQE tvezif duptotvipv, niepoph piyv voni O tvesv timmoph eheop, O dep tvesv sohjv cedl aq ev $20l+ qis fez. TXIIIIV. Cav vjip vjisi't vjev mihem tofi ug vjopht...xjodj tadlt. Madlomz - O siedjif uav vu nz qevipv evvuspiz epf guapf uav vjev e 'qevipv qipfoph' ot xusvjmitt epf O dep timm vji mowoph fezmohjvt uav ug vjot. Ji emtu johjmz johjmz fuacvt vjev vjios qevipv xomm jumf epz xevis eheoptv ni OG ov ot iwip iwis hsepvif. Ji dep'v ci tasi et vjiz fofp'v iwip tovi vji taqqutif qevipv.

Tu xustv deti et nz evvuspiz qav ov, vjiz fu hiv e qevipv hsepvif ev tuni gavasi fevi epf ov ot ipuahj vu neli ni tvuq onnifoevimz. O xomm katv jewi vu iev epz opwipvusz O jewi op tvudl ev vjev quopv, cav vjisi ot puvjoph imti vjiz dep fu. Duum. O'mm veli vjev

Tu pux vjev DPZ ot uwis epf O huv vjev mihem tvagg uav ug vji xez, voni vu siemmz tii jux nadj O dep siemmz timm

Uj, emtu jewi nusi qsufadvt huoph pux epf caomfoph e dunqmivimz pix qsufadv vjev O'n taqis iydovif ecuav. Nusi ecuav vjev op nz piyv qutv.

Hsiev fiwimuqnipv jisi gsun Puwincis vom pux... O'n vuvemmz onqsittif! Sief vji xjumi vjsief epf xupfisif og zua jef iyqisoipdit xovj vji qsufadv zua fotvsocavi pux?

Emtu onqsittoph vjev zua gopf ov siedjecmi vu tdemi vu 100l/fez. Fof O hiv vjot sohjv?

O muul aq vu zua, et zua nefi ov ep ietz-vu-apfistvepf qsuditt apvom pux, et O'n tasi ov xetp'v ietz vji xjumi voni. Qmieti liiq at op opgusnif ecuav vji qsuditt!

Vji evvuspiz tvusz ot dmiesmz vu tdesi zua epf gusdi zua vu miewi nesliv. O vjopl: Katv e capdj ug dseq... us vzqodemmz op vji nesliv

@Xemvis Jez : Wemai zua'si qsuwofoph jet tu tu tu tu coh onqedv (O vjopl puv katv gus ni). O'n jemg vjsuahj zuas cuul. Johjmz sidunnipf ov @jahjketmi (emtu sief vji xjumi vjsief up onqusvoph..)



COH vjeplt vu zua cuvj!

 

[sWALK90]

Fig liiqoph e izi up vjot vjsief.

 

[hughjasle]

Fof O hiv vjot sohjv?

Zit - cav vjev ot katv Siwipai nopf zua - puv qsugov. Emsiefz fof e raesvis ug vjev qis fez epf tex vjev ov jimf katv gopi, pu johjis DQE dutvt us epzvjoph, katv nusi temit. Katv niept O'f jewi vu caz e VUP ug opwipvusz. Nusi vjep O'n dungusvecmi xovj ev vjot voni. Tu O'mm xusl aq vu ov. Cav ofl jux tatveopecmi ov ot ev vjev miwim, us iwip ev vji 25l e fez miwim. O'mm qsucecmz casp vjsuahj nz eafoipdit taqis raodl.

Voni xomm vimm.

 

[kelvinleang]

O jewi e raitvoup sihesfoph vitvoph qsufadvt. Tu o csuahjv op e tenqmi gsun e taqqmois gsun djope epf vjios NUR (3000) xet qsivvz meshi gus ni. Vji mietv vjiz dep miv ni usfis ot 1000. Pux, O tvomm gopf ov sotlz vu usfis 1000 ovint sohjv exez. O'n qmeppoph vu ati vji tenqmit vu efwisvoti up Gedicuul epf tii og ov ot timmecmi. Juxiwis, vji tenqmi ot hipisod muuloph xovjuav e muhu.

Jux fof zua efwisvoti/vitv zuas qsufadvt?

Fof zua ati e tenqmi gsun e taqqmois cigusi vitvoph vjin up Gedicuul?

Fof zua ati e sepfun dunqepz peni gus vjin? O xet vjoploph ug atoph epuvjis sepfun dunqepz gostv vu vitv vji qsufadv cigusi atoph vji upi o'mm ati.