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If you think there is real potential and value to the partnership then I would definitely consider getting together, talking it over and setting out some real divisions of labour.<br />
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i really have no idea how much work he did on the website, so this is more of a generalised statement, but I honestly think that web design is one of the most undervalued professions out there. The truth is even if someone is just buying a template, installing it, importing content then editing it to make it look how it did on the demo you can easily be looking at 10 hours of work. Just that is looking at 3 figures in price at the very least.<br />
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The truth is he may be reacting because he's been in similar situations to me. At least once a week someone will pitch me their amazing business idea (that comes complete with no projections, evidence or idea of customer base) and feels they are being extraordinary generous offering me the chance to be part of it... all I need to do is build the website (custom build of course) and then they'll give me a percentage of the company. In other words they'd like me to invest £10,000+ in free work on the chance their idea might take off. I don't think most people are doing it to get one over on me or take advantage, I just don't think they comprehend the amount of work and effort something costs to implement and do. Is that their fault? Well to a degree people should educate themselves more, but honestly in the end it is the web designer / developer's responsibility. We do need to stand up and politely explain these points and not feel like the victim who is being taken advantage in the situation. We also need to be a lot more realistic about how much work something is and project scope creep is a very realistic possibility and to a degree ensure there is a contingency for that in an initial bid / budget that gives the flexibility to allow it to a small degree without running back and forth to the client who wants to argue the small print to get their extra page added.<br />
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To the same degree none of this could be true and please don't take it as me bashing you. I think you're awesome for getting out there and trying to build a business. I just thought it might be useful to see it from what potentially the other side is thinking.<br />
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Also sorry for the long waffle. Been coding all weekend and my ability to have normal, succinct conversations has gone out the window.
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I just want to start off by thanking you for the reply. Anyways, I completely understand and the project was not difficult. It was simply intstall the Salient theme, Install some Plugins here and there, and just get the basic structure up. I might be wrong, but I don't think that would be 3 weeks of work. He was just some other 17 year old that wanted to build a business I reached out, he knew how to code, so he started building it. As time progressed he said he wanted to put more weight and be the cofounder so I told him, lets see how it goes. We had agreed at first for it to 60/40. It was never 50/50. When he we were going to sign the contract is when he said he wanted 30% equity for the company and all he would do is set up the website. <br />
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I don't believe this to be a Million dollar idea. I think it would be something that has an extremely low start up cost that would allow me to raise money for my bigger businesses that I have in mind. I also work a job so its not like this would be my only income. I just want a form to put myself out and get experience before I go all out in the months to come to create a million dollar bail out project.<br />
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So it was 50-50. He built some of a website, you put in $200. Now he wants it 80-20?<br />
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How did you plan to start an Internet service, if you cannot even build a website?<br />
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Do you normally over sensationalize and blame others for everything that happens to you?<br />
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When you hit a roadblock or are told something cannot be done; do you normally quit, throw your hands up, and run to social media so others will tell you there was nothing you could have done?<br />
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What deal can you broker to keep moving forward? How will you overcome this obstacle?<br />
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Nice work for getting started! You are way ahead of most high schoolers!
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I explained the percentages above. And no I don't I went to people on forums that actually have experience to ask my questions. I realize I am young and do not have all the answers so instead of doing something stupid that I would regret, I ask people like you that have more knowledge and experience for their personal opinions. I still am planning the launch. There is no way I am not going to do it. I am working on looking for a new programmers and accessing my possible options to go forward with the project. Thank you for the words of encouragement though.<br />
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Hmmm you stated, "I definitely had put in more weight he had been building the stupid website for 3 weeks now."<br />
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You are attempting to start an internet service business and a website would seem to be pretty vital to your operations but you utter the phrase "building the stupid website"<br />
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Son don't take this the wrong way you are not ready to run any type of business let alone have any kind of business "relationships".<br />
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If you talk about your so called business partners that way there is a high HIGH probability you would talk to prospective customers that way as well.<br />
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Learn to deal with the people in your life first...it's a good skill to have.<br />
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Your right that was definitely my fault for uttering that. As has been posted by others on this post I guess I wasn't truly back stabbed, I just felt very betrayed by him. When we spoke over the phone everything was done in a professional manner and I kindly and respectfully said "Okay thats, fine." and I would think it over. I never was rude or mean with him, I just felt my time was wasted for waiting 3 weeks for this fairly simple website. He is not a professional and I do not think he is proposing a good deal whatsoever. It almost feels like he is trying to screw me over with his proposition. But, I think I will just respond and thank him for the proposition, but hire a professional to do the website or just learn to build it myself. Anyways thank you for the advice.</div>
