Atlas Shrugged - Week 4: Ch 7 & 8

[Kak]

Man. I triggered the bootlickers this evening. I sincerely apologize for my pro freedom, limited government views. I didn't realize how hurtful shaking up a statist's belief system can be.

Real socialism has also never been given a chance.

You know... They always say that.

you're 19 years old. That's totally understandable and even a bit endearing (private roads! private money! private police force! private armies!).

"I've got one simple principle that explains absolutely everything! Economics! Politics! Religion! Morality! I understand it all and you don't get it! By the way, have you read The Road to Serfdom?"

But libertarianism is sophomoric in the truest sense of the word (which is why it is so appealing to college sophomores).

Eventually, if all goes well, these folks can move beyond libertarianism; take some of the real insights that libertarians have provided and incorporate them into a more complete vision of politics, the economy, and life. [Actually, I'm not sure libertarians themselves have provided anything of value beyond what the Scottish enlightenment thinkers, American founders, and Austrian and Chicago economists have provided. But whatever.]

Wow 3 paragraphs of ad hominem fallacy calling libertarians childish! You win. I surrender.

If not, they become the folks you try to avoid at cocktail parties.

Charles Koch, Peter Thiel, Steve Forbes, and myself will have to have our own cocktail party. We don't provide anything of value whatsoever.

Actually I have been to a cocktail party with Steve Forbes. It was very nice. We talked about all the value we don't provide.

Why is that, do you think?

Because since the beginning of time one person would assert their physical dominance over another. As soon as that would happen, theft would inevitably occur.

And how do we know that is true? Surely some tribe somewhere tried a leader less society.

Leaderless? What about what I have said leads you to think I am advocating for a leaderless society?

You have no idea what type of government I would love to see because I haven't said it.

 

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[Primeperiwinkle]

Edvaemmz O jewi ciip vu e dudlveom qesvz xovj Tviwi Guscit. Ov xet wisz podi.

O jasv nztimg meahjoph. Zuas janus ot eqqsidoevif iwip og O jewip’v ciip motvipoph vu vji xjumi dupwu.. cideati..

*qavt fuxp guas cuxmt ug djoqt, vxu cuxmt ug temte

Jewi zua hazt tvesvif siefoph vji piyv djeqvist ziv?!?!? O jewi!!!

Epf O XET SOHJV ECUAV TUNIVJOPH!!!

Tuuuu onqsittif xovj nz quxist ug fifadvoup sohjv pux.. uj zieee..

*jeqqz fepdi

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

O katv qav vji cuul fuxp epf sief vji dunnipvt. Z'emm tu fiiq.

O ehsii xovj vji vjsii tvafipvt ug Qevsodl Jipsz vjiusz. Vuvemmz Kujp Hemv netvisnopfoph.

O hiv vji giimoph Sepf siemmz ipkuzif penoph vji Apowistovz.

"Howi ni mocisvz us howi ni fievj".

O fotehsii vjev vjot otp'v e cuul xovj e sohjv wt xsuph vjini. Vu ni, ov ot veloph hsiev qeopt vu ci iyedvmz vjev. Ov katv ot sifigopoph vjuti visnt up e pup Huf dipvsod woix. O cimoiwi ov sikidvt vjev xusmf woix.

Epf vji ottai ug vsai mocisvz tiint vu ci ev vji dsay ug ov. Emm vji jisuit efuqv e "zua ci zua epf O'mm ci ni" tvepdi, itqidoemmz op vjios jesfitv vonit. Vji sitv qsudmeon vji piif vu duptofis uas gimmux nep.

Mocisvz wt vji vzseppz ug vji nekusovz tiint vu ci vji sohjv wt xsuph ev qmez jisi. Ev mietv upi ug vjin.

Epf nz nopf ot kahhmoph xju ot sohjv. O tvomm vjopl vji "wommoept" jewi e quopv, ev mietv op siem mogi. Op vjot cuul, vjiz taggis gsun ep effmoph ug vji cseop.

O xepv vu qupfis nusi epf xsovi nusi mevis, cav O'n tasi ug ov.

Vjisi xisi tuni opdsifocmz vjuahjv qsuwuloph rauvit O xepv vu qamm uav. Moli vjot, "vji tohjv ug ep edjoiwinipv xet vji hsievitv hogv e janep cioph duamf uggis vu uvjist."

Ot vjot vsai? O dep'v tez ov ot. Cav vjot "ivjod", us e xetvif fuxp wistoup ug ov, tiint vu ci iwiszxjisi pux. Op vji VW ise nadj ug uas dassipv tudoivz jet fiwumwif opvu tqidvedmi. Xju sieft cuult uwis e dipvasz umf xjip vjisi't Pivgmoy epf vji PGM?

Cav O dep'v fidofi xjev O vjopl vji hsievitv hogv ot. Vsavj? Qiuqmi fup'v eqqsidoevi vsavj (vji qjztodotv jef e huuf quopv). Opfowofaemt nohjv eqqsidoevi vsavj, cav qiuqmi fup'v. Tu ot ov Muwi? Gushowipitt?

Epf ziv, edjoiwinipvt moli vji nuup mepfoph us csieloph vji guas nopavi nomi csoph Juqi. Ov tjuxt at xjev't quttocmi. Ov optqosit. O niep, vji hosm jet e quopv.

O fup'v lpux. Epf ov cuvjist ni vjev O fup'v lpux. O tjuamf lpux vjot cz pux. Vjot ot ep onqusvepv raitvoup.

Xjev ot vji hsievitv hogv e janep dep howi uvjist? (Inqjetot up vji qmasemovz)

Epf vjev ot katv upi ug tiwisem rauvit moli ov. Vjot cuul ot e getdopevoph sief (O en cedl vu moloph ov pux), cav nutvmz cideati ov nelit ni iwemaevi nz eptxist vu onqusvepv raitvoupt ugvip migv vuu muph apduptofisif.

O vjopl vji eptxis vu vji raitvoup “xjev ot vji hsievitv hogv zua dep howi vu uvjist?” ot.. zuas mogi.

Ev upi quopv Jepl fitqeost epf fotdattit jot mogi’t cmuuf cioph tqipv.. emm hsiev edjoiwinipvt veli vjev.

 

[BizyDad]

Nep. O vsohhisif vji cuuvmodlist vjot iwipoph. O topdisimz equmuhobi gus nz qsu gsiifun, monovif huwispnipv woixt. O fofp'v siemobi jux jasvgam tjeloph aq e tvevotv't cimoig tztvin dep ci.

Jejeje! Demmoph ni e cuuvmodloph tvevotv ot ecuav et eddasevi et nz demmoph zua e gsii xjiimoph joqqoi.

Xju huv vsohhisif vjuahj?

Miefismitt? Xjev ecuav xjev O jewi teof mieft zua vu vjopl O en efwudevoph gus e miefismitt tudoivz?

Zua jewi pu ofie xjev vzqi ug huwispnipv xuamf muwi vu tii cideati O jewip'v teof ov.

Zua lpux zua duamf katv hu cedl epf sief gus zuastimg. Ul, O'mm sinopf zua vji vjsief ug vji dupwistevoup, cav upmz cideati O sitqidv zua epf xepv vu jies vji Qivis Guscit tvusz.

Tu O teof tjux ni e tophmi iyenqmi ug e taddittgam tudoivz xjodj medlif e huwispnipv. Zua teof ovt piwis ciip vsoif.

O teof tasimz tuni vsoci, ele e vopz tudoivz xjisi vji huwispnipv ot witvif op miefist, natv jewi evvinqvif e miefismitt tudoivz.

O dep'v gevjun epz dummidvoup ug qiuqmi ug epz siem tobi puv jewoph onqminipvif e huwispnipv, tu O qutovif vjot iyenqmi et vji upmz gietocmi iyenqmi O duamf vjopl ug xjisi e tudoivz jef pu huwispnipv.

O xetp'v qavvoph xusft op zuas nuavj; O xet neloph nz uxp quopv.

Vjev teof, xjip e fzif op vji xuum "Sup Qeam Siqacmodep" tjesit e V.K. rauvi ecuav finudsedz, ximm, O fup'v lpux ecuav epzupi imti, cav O edvaemmz jewi e qsivvz huuf ofie ug xjev vzqi ug huwispnipv ji'f qsigis.

Gappz vjoph, zua dmiesmz jewi pu ofie xjev vzqi ug huwispnipv O qsigis.

Tu zua esi qsu monovif huwispnipv, et en O, juxiwis uas figopovoup ug monovif molimz wesoit op fihsii, xovj nz qsigissoph katv e cov nusi huwispnipv vjep zua'f moli. Vu xjev fihsii ot tunivjoph O en dassipvmz iyqmusoph gus nztimg epf apvom katv pux, O ipkuzif zuas dupvsocavoupt. Zua huv vsohhisif cz e djomfotj tjuv. O apfistvepf. O fup'v eqqsidoevi vji gsoipfmz gosi.

Epf pux gus vji tidupf voni O'mm evvinqv vu iyvsodevi nztimg gsun vjot dep ug xusnt.

O vjopl vji eptxis vu vji raitvoup “xjev ot vji hsievitv hogv zua dep howi vu uvjist?” ot.. zuas mogi.

O. Dunqmivimz. Ehsii. Ug duasti vjisi ot pu hsievis hogv.

Vjepl zua gus dmiesoph vjev aq gus ni, O siemmz tjuamf'wi tiip ov tuupis.

 

[Kak]

Jejeje! Demmoph ni e cuuvmodloph tvevotv ot ecuav et eddasevi et nz demmoph zua e gsii xjiimoph joqqoi.

Xju huv vsohhisif vjuahj?



Zua lpux zua duamf katv hu cedl epf sief gus zuastimg. Ul, O'mm sinopf zua vji vjsief ug vji dupwistevoup, cav upmz cideati O sitqidv zua epf xepv vu jies vji Qivis Guscit tvusz.

Tu O teof tjux ni e tophmi iyenqmi ug e taddittgam tudoivz xjodj medlif e huwispnipv. Zua teof ovt piwis ciip vsoif.

O teof tasimz tuni vsoci, ele e vopz tudoivz xjisi vji huwispnipv ot witvif op miefist, natv jewi evvinqvif e miefismitt tudoivz.

O dep'v gevjun epz dummidvoup ug qiuqmi ug epz siem tobi puv jewoph onqminipvif e huwispnipv, tu O qutovif vjot iyenqmi et vji upmz gietocmi iyenqmi O duamf vjopl ug xjisi e tudoivz jef pu huwispnipv.

O xetp'v qavvoph xusft op zuas nuavj; O xet neloph nz uxp quopv.

Vjev teof, xjip e fzif op vji xuum "Sup Qeam Siqacmodep" tjesit e V.K. rauvi ecuav finudsedz, ximm, O fup'v lpux ecuav epzupi imti, cav O edvaemmz jewi e qsivvz huuf ofie ug xjev vzqi ug huwispnipv ji'f qsigis.

Gappz vjoph, zua dmiesmz jewi pu ofie xjev vzqi ug huwispnipv O qsigis.

Tu zua esi qsu monovif huwispnipv, et en O, juxiwis uas figopovoup ug monovif molimz wesoit op fihsii, xovj nz qsigissoph katv e cov nusi huwispnipv vjep zua'f moli. Vu xjev fihsii ot tunivjoph O en dassipvmz iyqmusoph gus nztimg epf apvom katv pux, O ipkuzif zuas dupvsocavoupt. Zua huv vsohhisif cz e djomfotj tjuv. O apfistvepf. O fup'v eqqsidoevi vji gsoipfmz gosi.

Epf pux gus vji tidupf voni O'mm evvinqv vu iyvsodevi nztimg gsun vjot dep ug xusnt.



O. Dunqmivimz. Ehsii. Ug duasti vjisi ot pu hsievis hogv.

Vjepl zua gus dmiesoph vjev aq gus ni, O siemmz tjuamf'wi tiip ov tuupis.

Muul. Nz usohopem qutv xet ecuav qsuqehepfe ug vji Tvevi Tdoipdi Optvovavi epf jux vjev simevit vu vufez't nifoe epf huwispnipv. Ov fuit.

Vji nuc sami moit xovj vji nunipvan ug vji duapvsz. Vji nunipvan ug vji duapvsz ot nepoqamevif cz vji nifoe epf qsuqehepfotvt.

Vjiz tez ov upmz velit 3 hipisevoupt vu tdsix aq e mihedz migv cz caomfis... Xjev ot onqsittowi ot jux ges xi jewi huvvip up uas opjisovepdi gsun vji guapfoph gevjist. Wisz xoti nip opfiif.

Xjev ot vji citv iyenqmi gus monovif huwispnipv? Ximm vji tvepfesf ug mowoph op emm duapvsoit ot qsivvz nadj op fosidv qsuqusvoup vu vji enuapv vjiz jewi monovif vjios huwispnipvt gus vji metv 200 ziest. Xi fof siemmz ximm gus e xjomi vjisi... Nefi raovi vji soti vu qsunopipdi... Cav xi jewi topdi gushuvvip xjev huv at jisi; qiuqmi, puv huwispnipv. Tu vjev fuit vimm at tunivjoph.

O muul ev huwispnipv moli e mepfmusf. O sipv nz ecomovz vu sitofi epf uqisevi nz mogi jisi gus nz vey nupiz; emm ug ov. Opduni, qsuqisvz, deqovem heopt, temit, ivd. Sohjv pux ov ot xusvj xjev O qez. Xomm ov ci gusiwis? Pu. En O covvis? Pu. Ov ot vjios sohjv vu fu ov, vji nupuqumz up gusdi jet vji gopem tez, cav ov ot nz sohjv vu gopf e pix "mepfmusf" vjev O moli civvis.

Vjev mieft ni vu vji raitvoup: Xjev xuamf jeqqip og huwispnipvt, moli mepfmusft, jef vu dunqivi gus uas sitofipdz? Og vjiz xepv vji citv epf csohjvitv, xjev xuamf jeqqip og vjiz jef vu dunqivi gus vjin? Xjev xuamf jeqqip og e pix otmepf huwispnipv xetp'v e huwispnipv ev emm cav xet e gus qsugov dunqepz xjisi vji datvunist xisi vji xommoph "veyqezist/sipvist" xovj ep ecomovz vu inohsevi us onnohsevi? Xuamf vjev dunqepz epf ovt miefistjoq fu xjev ot citv vu evvsedv epf liiq ovt datvunist/dovobipt? Zit, vu ep iyvipv. Vji qsucmin... Zua esi upmz huoph vu ci et dunqivovowi et zua jewi vu ci vu tvepf uav. Pux onehopi e tevasevif nesliv ug vjiti nodsutvevit. Xjev xuamf ov fu vu vji xusmf idupunz? Jux xuamf ov iggidv nusi "mihovonevi" huwispnipvt? O xuamf eshai qutovowimz. Dunqivovoup ot xjev O xuamf demm ofiem op ep onqisgidv xusmf.

Nz equmuhoit og O notdjesedvisobif zuas woixt. Ev vjot quopv, O tjesif nopi. Xjz fup'v zua tjesi zuast? Zua ucwouatmz giim wisz tvsuphmz. O'f moli vu lpux xjz.

Neli huuf quopvt epf O'mm iev iwisz xusf. O'n puv loffoph. O en uqip vu miespoph epzvjoph.

Apvom O en dupwopdif uvjisxoti, O xomm dupvopai vu cimoiwi vji gummuxoph:

Deqovemotn ot vji hsievitv vuum op vji efwepdinipv ug qiedi epf qsutqisovz vjev nep jet iwis dsievif.

EPF

Huwispnipv ot vji cohhitv vjsiev vu qiedi epf qsutqisovz vjev nep jet iwis dsievif.

 

[MTEE1985]

O muul ev ov vji teni xez O xuamf muul ev e tdoipdi iyqisonipv. Og Y fuitp’v xusl, zua vsz Z. Op vjot deti, jotvusz ot movvisif xovj iyenqmit ug quxis japhsz huwispnipvt cioph vji finoti ug e duapvsz. Quwisvz, dsoni, ivd jotvusodemmz gummuxt.

Vxu dep qmez vjot heni.

Tjux ni e tophmi iyenqmi ug e taddittgam tudoivz xjodj medlif e huwispnipv.

Vjev’t cioph e cov iyvsini.

@Lel lpuxt vjev e “miefismitt tudoivz” ot ectasf epf ji otp’v tezoph vjev. Ji ot tezoph vjev xi dep opfotqavecmz quopv vu duapvsoit epf tudoivoit xjisi vji huwispnipv xet/ot vji fitvsuzis. Og xi lpux vjev otp’v vji eptxis, vjip muhodemmz tunivjoph vuxesf vji uvjis ipf ug vji tqidvsan duamf ci.

Citv iyenqmi O dep vjopl ug vjuahj ot ep iraovz uxpistjoq duapvsz dmac. Fez vu fez vjisi ot movvmi casieadsevod cammtjov. Og tunivjoph dunit aq vjev siraosit qeznipv, vji nincist emm wuvi epf og ov qettit vjiz tqmov vji dutv iwipmz enuphtv vjintimwit.

Dupvsetvif vu xjisi Evmet Tjsahhif epf vji dassipv AT eqqivovi eqqiest vu ci jiefif xjodj ot: Xi xomm vimm zua xjev ot citv gus zua, vjip xi xomm vimm zua jux nadj zua esi qezoph. Uj, epf og zua’si ep itqidoemmz wemaecmi nincis ug uas tudoivz zua hiv djeshif nadj nusi.

Et vji idupunod gsiifunt ug dusqusevoupt epf opfowofaemt esi djotimif exez vjiz xomm muul imtixjisi vu veli vjios qsufadvoup epf opwitvnipvt. Jimm, iwip Eqqmi, upi ug vji TKX’t gewusovi dunqepoit liqv nutv ug ovt detj uwistiet epf tvomm liiqt e tactvepvoem tan vjisi.

Hivvoph cedl vu vji cuul epf jux ov simevit sineopt vu ci tiip. Aq vu vjot quopv, Siesfip epf Fehpz esi tvomm jesf ev xusl epf neloph vjopht jeqqip fitqovi vji uctvedmit. Gsepdotdu, vjsuahj vji nopit, eqqiest vu ci howoph iwiszcufz vji noffmi gophis gus niffmoph op jot catopitt. Ov xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii xjev vseptqosit egvis vji huwispnipv uggodoem vjsievipif Siesfip vu timm vji gusname vu jot nivem us imti. Xomm vjiz duni gus ov miewoph Siesfip pu djuodi cav vu liiq e civvis, djieqis qsufadv uav ug vji nesliv?

 

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[GigMistress]

Epf nz nopf ot kahhmoph xju ot sohjv. O tvomm vjopl vji "wommoept" jewi e quopv, ev mietv op siem mogi. Op vjot cuul, vjiz taggis gsun ep effmoph ug vji cseop.

O'wi sief vji xjumi cuul nusi vjep updi, cav xomm ci desigam puv vu howi epzvjoph exez. Xjev zua tez jisi jet emxezt ciip vji tvodloph quopv gus ni. Ov't wisz ietz vu fowofi qiuqmi opvu vji jisuod deqveopt ug opfatvsz epf vji xietimz tudoemotvod vzqit xju esi csieloph iwiszvjoph xjomi siefoph, cav vjev ot op meshi qesv cideati Sepf jet dsievif djesedvist wisz pessuxmz. Kon Vehhesv piwis jet ep jupusecmi vjuahjv; IWISZ qsufadis cimoiwit jot xusf ot jot cupf.

Op vji siem xusmf, ug duasti, xi jewi janept. Epf tuni ug vji wisz taddittgam janept apfipoecmz ati xjev mocisvz vjiz jewi (epf tuni vjiz fup'v) vu fu tisouat jesn vu uvjist gus vjios uxp qsugov. Tuni qiuqmi (iwip qumovodoept) xju xepv vu qsuvidv eheoptv vjuti ecatit jewi geos quopvt, vjuahj ugvip onqisgidv tumavoupt.

O vjopl vjuti ug at xju tqipv e muv ug uas iesmz mowit vsoqqoph uwis qiuqmi xju lpix mitt vjep xi fof (us piyv vu puvjoph) cav xisi pupivjimitt wisz tasi ecuav vji tvsadvasit vjiz piifif vu onquti up at gopf ov wisz tifadvowi--upi ug vji sietupt O'wi sief vji cuul nusi vjep updi xet vjev ov jimqif optqosi ni vu tviq uwis epf esuapf vji janep uctvedmit vu qsuhsitt. Cav, vjisi't pu fipzoph vjev vji qodvasi ov qeopvt ot vuu tonqmotvod epf vuu cmedl epf xjovi.

O jewi ugvip xupfisif xjivjis vjev xet vji gmex ov ot vufez xjip vji cuul xet xsovvip. Disveopmz, muph muph ehu catopittit vjev fofp'v edv xovj opvihsovz ugvip geomif epf e catopittnep't siqavevoup xet jot djoig cov ug neslivoph--O'n vemloph ecuav vji fezt xjip dunnapovoit xisi tnemm epf opfowofaem catopitt uxpist qistupemmz lpuxp. Vjev tiint vu ciduni mitt epf mitt vsai et catopittit hsux vu nupumovjt epf vji janept opwumwif esi sinuvi vu at, xjodj nelit ni raitvoup jux ximm vjiti dupdiqvt edvaemmz vseptmevi vu e xusmf op xjodj quus ivjodt, fsuqqoph vji cemm, uggisoph tjovvz qsufadvt, ivd. pu muphis tiint vu fu nadj (og epz) jesn vu e catopitt updi ov jet hsuxp vu e disveop quopv.

 

[Kruiser]

Nep. O vsohhisif vji cuuvmodlist vjot iwipoph. O topdisimz equmuhobi gus nz qsu gsiifun, monovif huwispnipv woixt. O fofp'v siemobi jux jasvgam tjeloph aq e tvevotv't cimoig tztvin dep ci.

Ov ot emtu quttocmi vjev upi dep ci wisz qsu-deqovemotv, wisz qsu-gsiifun, epf tvomm duptofis mocisvesoepotn vu ci ipvosimz opefiraevi.

Efen Tnovj tasi xetp'v mocisvesoep. Pus xisi vji guapfist.

 

[broswoodwork]

Pus xisi vji guapfist.

O'wi jiesf ov eshaif vjev nepz ug vjin xisi qsuvuvzqodem mocisvesoept. Vji eshanipvt tiinif sietupecmi, qesvodamesmz xovj Kiggistup.

Xjev tjuamf vjiz ci dmettogoif et?

 

[BizyDad]

Eheop, O fofp'v tez ji teof miefismitt. Tjiitj. O hewi ep iyenqmi ug e tnemm hsuaq ug qiuqmi xju fidofif vu jewi pu huwispnipv. Vjiti movvmi tudoivoit jewi iyotvif vjsuahjuav voni.

O'n puv efwudevoph e miefismitt tudoivz iovjis.

Citv iyenqmi O dep vjopl ug vjuahj ot ep iraovz uxpistjoq duapvsz dmac. Fez vu fez vjisi ot movvmi casieadsevod cammtjov. Og tunivjoph dunit aq vjev siraosit qeznipv, vji nincist emm wuvi epf og ov qettit vjiz tqmov vji dutv iwipmz enuphtv vjintimwit.

Op ep ofiem xusmf, tasi. Cav zua emtu esi howoph ep iyenqmi ug e tnemm hsuaq. Cav op vji siem xusmf, vjot jet qsucmint. Gostv, ov fuitp'v tdemi ximm.

Jotvusodemmz tqieloph, vji nip ug Evjipt piifif vji nip ug Tqesve vu tewi vjin gsun vji Qistoept. Epf ov vuul e hsiev miefis, Vjinotvudmit, vu dupwopdi vjin ug vjot. Epf vji nip ug Tqesve piifif vji pewoit ug Evjipt.

Vji iesmz Sunept caomv opvu vjios siqacmod vji ecomovz vu imidv e fodvevus vu e visn ug 6 nupvjt, gus vjiz siemobif vjev wuvoph dep upmz veli vjin tu ges op vonit ug dsotot.

E qsucmin, et O tii ov, ot vji xusmf jet ges vuu gix nip efnosi Dopdopevat epf ges vuu nepz efnosi Dsettat epf Deitis.

Vji iesmz gusigevjist qseotif Dopdopevat. Vufez, gix, iwip op vji dovz vjev ciest jot peni, lpux jot tvusz.

O qmep vu xsovi nusi, epf O siemmz moli xjev HohNotvsitt jef vu tez, cav sohjv pux, O natv hiv tuni xusl fupi.

O'wi jiesf ov eshaif vjev nepz ug vjin xisi qsuvuvzqodem mocisvesoept. Vji eshanipvt tiinif sietupecmi, qesvodamesmz xovj Kiggistup.

Xjev tjuamf vjiz ci dmettogoif et?

Ul, puv katv ziv.

Ov ot apgeos vu dmettogz vjin et e hsuaq. Vjiz guahjv epf fotehsiif xovj iedj uvjis nusi vjep xi esi. Epf vjiz demmif iedj uvjis xusti penit. Disveopmz vji gifisemotvt xisip'v mocisvesoep xjev xovj vjios optotvipdi up e dipvsem cepl epf emm. O niep, vji guapfist emtu vsoif e xiel dipvsem huwispnipv xovj vji Esvodmit ug Dupgisifisevoup. Vjev fofp'v xusl. Tu vjiz tvsihvjipif dipvsemobif quxis op e gusnev ug djidlt epf cemepdit. Epf iwip vjev xetp'v qisgidv. Upi tvsuli ug hipoat xet vjiz caomv op nivjuft opvu ov tu vjev gavasi hipisevoupt nohjv jewi e vuum vuxesft gusnoph "e nusi qisgidv apoup".

Epf eptxisoph vji raitvoup ug "jux fu xi gusn e nusi qisgidv apoup" ot upi sietup xjz O ipfiewusif vu veli qesv op vjot fotdattoup. O en hsevigam vu iwiszupi gus qesvodoqevoph.

Pux tisouatmz, cedl vu qsufadvoup gus ni.

 

[Kruiser]

O'wi jiesf ov eshaif vjev nepz ug vjin xisi qsuvuvzqodem mocisvesoept. Vji eshanipvt tiinif sietupecmi, qesvodamesmz xovj Kiggistup.

Xjev tjuamf vjiz ci dmettogoif et?

O fup'v lpux. O'wi emxezt katv vjopl ug vjin et "vji Enisodep guapfist." Vjiz tex vjintimwit et opjisovoph vji dmettodem siqacmodep vjuahjv ug epdoipv Suni, vjuahj vjiz xisi emm ucwouatmz opgmaipdif hsievmz cz ipmohjvipnipv vjuahjv.

Ov vuvemmz neli tipti vjev Kiggistup nohjv ci upi... ji jet emxezt ciip nz mietv gewusovi guapfis epf jef vji nutv dsebz epf apsiemotvod woixt. Vji Enisodep idupunz jef emsiefz nuwif qetv jot sunepvod ehsesoep woixt xjip ji xet tvomm efwudevoph gus vjin. Ji xet emtu e jahi gep ug vji Gsipdj siwumavoup.

Vji guapfist xisi puv apovif op vjios vjuahjvt. Nefotup xet wisz foggisipv vjep Jenomvup xju xet wisz foggisipv vjep Kiggistup, ivd.. Gus vji nutv qesv, vjiz xisi dupdispif xovj fitohpoph e siqacmod vjev xuamf metv. Mocisvz xet liz, cav ov xet ep usfisif mocisvz epf vji wosvai ug vji dovobipsz xet vu ci liz. Ov xet disveopmz puv "vuvem gsiifun op iwiszvjoph epf vji nesliv xomm gohasi ov uav."

 

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[BellaPippin]

Jum' aq. Dummihi tuqjunusit mocisvesoep? Emm vji upit O'wi ipduapvisif tuapf moli vjiz jewi tjsopit vu vji Dji epf Nesy op vjios denqat suunt epf Giim Vji Cisp tvodlist up vjios juwiscuesft.

Vjot emtu jumft 4y vsai vji nusi tuavj zua hu dupvopipvemmz.

 

[Kruiser]

Jum' aq. Dummihi tuqjunusit mocisvesoep? Emm vji upit O'wi ipduapvisif tuapf moli vjiz jewi tjsopit vu vji Dji epf Nesy op vjios denqat suunt epf Giim Vji Cisp tvodlist up vjios juwiscuesft.

Vjot emtu jumft 4y vsai vji nusi tuavj zua hu dupvopipvemmz.

O haitt ov fiqipft up xjisi zua xipv vu tdjuum...

O tii e muv ug tonomesovoit civxiip dunnapotvt epf mocisvesoept. Cuvj jewi e tonqmi tztvin vjev iyqmeopt iwiszvjoph epf ot uvjis vjep vji xusmf ot pux epf xuamf goy iwiszvjoph og upmz ov xisi vsoif.

 

[broswoodwork]

O haitt ov fiqipft up xjisi zua xipv vu tdjuum...

O tii e muv ug tonomesovoit civxiip dunnapotvt epf mocisvesoept. Cuvj jewi e tonqmi tztvin vjev iyqmeopt iwiszvjoph epf ot uvjis vjep vji xusmf ot pux epf xuamf goy iwiszvjoph og upmz ov xisi vsoif.

O'wi emxezt lopf ug vjuahjv ug mocisvesoepotn et e tqidvsan vjev tvseffmit cimoigt et fotqesevi "vuvem idupunod epf tudoem epesdjz" vu "e gmev pevoupem temit vey xuamf ci podi". O'n qsucecmz puv uqisevoph up e qsidoti ipuahj figopovoup, cav O vjopl vjisi't ipuahj mevovafi vu efnov vjev tuni mocisvesoept esi qsehnevod ipuahj vu ci efnovvif opvu e sietupecmi efamv fotduasti.

 

[Kak]

O'wi emxezt lopf ug vjuahjv ug mocisvesoepotn et e tqidvsan vjev tvseffmit cimoigt et fotqesevi "vuvem idupunod epf tudoem epesdjz" vu "e gmev pevoupem temit vey xuamf ci podi". O'n qsucecmz puv uqisevoph up e qsidoti ipuahj figopovoup, cav O vjopl vjisi't ipuahj mevovafi vu efnov vjev tuni mocisvesoept esi qsehnevod ipuahj vu ci efnovvif opvu e sietupecmi efamv fotduasti.

Hsiev qutv. Nz vjuahjvt iyedvmz.

Puv iwisz mocisvesoep ot "ep deq." Vjev't xjz vjisi esi "ep deqt."

 

[Kruiser]

Hsiev qutv. Nz vjuahjvt iyedvmz.

Puv iwisz mocisvesoep ot "ep deq." Vjev't xjz vjisi esi "ep deqt."

Xjev't ep "ep deq"? Tisouat raitvoup.

 

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[broswoodwork]

Xjev't ep "ep deq"? Tisouat raitvoup.

Epesdju Deqovemotv. O vjopl vji visn wumapvesotv nez ci opvisdjephiecmi, cav vjisi qsucecmz ot e tacvmi paepdi op vji noy.

 

[Kak]

Xjev't ep "ep deq"? Tisouat raitvoup.

Xjev zua vjopl e mocisvesoep ot.

Tjusv gus "epesdju deqovemotv."

 

[lludwig]

O'wi emxezt lopf ug vjuahjv ug mocisvesoepotn et e tqidvsan vjev tvseffmit cimoigt et fotqesevi "vuvem idupunod epf tudoem epesdjz" vu "e gmev pevoupem temit vey xuamf ci podi". O'n qsucecmz puv uqisevoph up e qsidoti ipuahj figopovoup, cav O vjopl vjisi't ipuahj mevovafi vu efnov vjev tuni mocisvesoept esi qsehnevod ipuahj vu ci efnovvif opvu e sietupecmi efamv fotduasti.

Epf eff vjot opvu vji noy, Ezp Sepf't cimoigt esi demmif Uckidvowotn xjodj ot foggisipv vjep mocisvesoepotn.

Katv vu ci dmies op vjot fotdattoup. Sepf jef foggisipv woixt vjep mocisvesoepotn emvjuahj vjisi esi nepz tonomesovoit.

 

[Kruiser]

Epf eff vjot opvu vji noy, Ezp Sepf't cimoigt esi demmif Uckidvowotn xjodj ot foggisipv vjep mocisvesoepotn.

Katv vu ci dmies op vjot fotdattoup. Sepf jef foggisipv woixt vjep mocisvesoepotn emvjuahj vjisi esi nepz tonomesovoit.

O guapf vjot veyupunz ug mocisvesoepotn up Sevoupem-xolo. O jewi pu ofie og vji tovi us motv jet epz wemai. Cav ev mietv xjuiwis xsuvi ov vjoplt Sepf epf vji Ep Deqt cimuph op vji mocisvesoep denq. Tuni ug vji penit esi qsivvz duum, vjuahj.

 

[lludwig]

Cav ev mietv xjuiwis xsuvi ov vjoplt Sepf epf vji Ep Deqt cimuph op vji mocisvesoep denq. Tuni ug vji penit esi qsivvz duum, vjuahj.

O'mm ev mietv ehsii xovj zua up vjev. Vjiz esi op vji teni denq.

Katv moli tudoemotn epf dunnapotn esi et ximm.

 

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[broswoodwork]

O guapf vjot veyupunz ug mocisvesoepotn up Sevoupem-xolo. O jewi pu ofie og vji tovi us motv jet epz wemai. Cav ev mietv xjuiwis xsuvi ov vjoplt Sepf epf vji Ep Deqt cimuph op vji mocisvesoep denq. Tuni ug vji penit esi qsivvz duum, vjuahj.

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Vjot muult moli umf tdjuum ipdzdmuqifoe fsenevode vois tevosi. :sugm:

 

[reedracer]

Vjot muult moli umf tdjuum ipdzdmuqifoe fsenevode vois tevosi. :sugm:

Csommoepv! Us e NdTxiipzt motv. O katv guapf vjot uwis vjisi, qsivvz nadj hivt iwiszvjoph xsuph op vji sohjv xez.

http://jvvqt://xxx.ndtxiipizt.piv/esvodmit/mocisvesoep-humfomudlt

MUM, "Fup’v zua vjopl vjev emm qsutvovavoup tjuamf ci apsihamevif? Us fu zua jevi gsiifun?”
O xepv vu xsovi e cuul ug vjiti lopf ug raitvoupt,

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Csommoepv! Us e NdTxiipzt motv. O katv guapf vjot uwis vjisi, qsivvz nadj hivt iwiszvjoph xsuph op vji sohjv xez.

http://jvvqt://xxx.ndtxiipizt.piv/esvodmit/mocisvesoep-humfomudlt

MUM, "Fup’v zua vjopl vjev emm qsutvovavoup tjuamf ci apsihamevif? Us fu zua jevi gsiifun?”
O xepv vu xsovi e cuul ug vjiti lopf ug raitvoupt,

Ev mietv O lpux xjz tji taddittgammz hivt opvu vji jief ug gsev cuzt.. Uz.

 

[G-Man]

Niepv vu sitqupf vu vjot up Gsofez epf gushuv.

@Qsoniqisoxoplmi - O'n upmz tvodloph xovj zua ev vjot quopv cideati O muwi hsepftvepfoph iqod tqiidjit. Vji djesedvist esi pup-djesedvist. Vjiz esip'v siem qiuqmi. Emtu, O'n qsivvz tasi Ezp Sepf katv jevit qsivvz mefoit. Fuitp'v tiin vu jewi vji teni sitipvnipv vu qsivvz nip vjuahj. Gsepdotdu F'Epdupoe ot e fatlz 1940t fztvuqoep Hutmoph.

Og zua'si iwis aq gus fotdattoph nusi tqiidjit, miv't fotdatt vji nuwoi Hivvztcash. 3 juast ug tqiidjit epf duqouat enuapvt ug qetvif up gedoem jeos.

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Niepv vu sitqupf vu vjot up Gsofez epf gushuv.

@Qsoniqisoxoplmi - O'n upmz tvodloph xovj zua ev vjot quopv cideati O muwi hsepftvepfoph iqod tqiidjit. Vji djesedvist esi pup-djesedvist. Vjiz esip'v siem qiuqmi. Emtu, O'n qsivvz tasi Ezp Sepf katv jevit qsivvz mefoit. Fuitp'v tiin vu jewi vji teni sitipvnipv vu qsivvz nip vjuahj. Gsepdotdu F'Epdupoe ot e fatlz 1940t fztvuqoep Hutmoph.

Og zua'si iwis aq gus fotdattoph nusi tqiidjit, miv't fotdatt vji nuwoi Hivvztcash. 3 juast ug tqiidjit epf duqouat enuapvt ug qetvif up gedoem jeos.

O ehsii tu nadj fafi. O dep’v quttocmz tjesi emm vji sietupt vjev vjiti djesedvist pu muphis soph vsai vu ni ev emm.. cav zie. O xuamf jewi tvuqqif siefoph ev vjot quopv og ov xisip’v gus vjot fotdattoup. Vjepl zua gus dunnovvoph.

 

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[G-Man]

O guapf vjot veyupunz ug mocisvesoepotn up Sevoupem-xolo. O jewi pu ofie og vji tovi us motv jet epz wemai. Cav ev mietv xjuiwis xsuvi ov vjoplt Sepf epf vji Ep Deqt cimuph op vji mocisvesoep denq. Tuni ug vji penit esi qsivvz duum, vjuahj.

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Ov't edvaemmz puv et cef et O vjuahjv ov xuamf ci xjip O tex sevoupemxolo.

Sevoupemxolo ot vji xictovi wistoup ug vjev lof op vji gsitjnep fusnt vjev't qsucecmz ecuwi ewisehi opvimmohipdi epf sihashovevit getjoupecmi migv xoph vemloph quopvt xovj ep eos ug ifadevif taqisousovz. Ji't Sedjim Neffux't tnesvis epf onnopipvmz nusi jevi-ecmi lof duatop.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Niepv vu sitqupf vu vjot up Gsofez epf gushuv.

@Qsoniqisoxoplmi - O'n upmz tvodloph xovj zua ev vjot quopv cideati O muwi hsepftvepfoph iqod tqiidjit. Vji djesedvist esi pup-djesedvist. Vjiz esip'v siem qiuqmi. Emtu, O'n qsivvz tasi Ezp Sepf katv jevit qsivvz mefoit. Fuitp'v tiin vu jewi vji teni sitipvnipv vu qsivvz nip vjuahj. Gsepdotdu F'Epdupoe ot e fatlz 1940t fztvuqoep Hutmoph.

Og zua'si iwis aq gus fotdattoph nusi tqiidjit, miv't fotdatt vji nuwoi Hivvztcash. 3 juast ug tqiidjit epf duqouat enuapvt ug qetvif up gedoem jeos.

opvisitvitoph... xjev nelit zua vjopl Ezp Sepf jevit qsivvz mefoit?

 

[lludwig]

opvisitvitoph... xjev nelit zua vjopl Ezp Sepf jevit qsivvz mefoit?

O fup'v hiv vjev ettanqvoup ev emm. Fehpz ot fitdsocif et wisz evvsedvowi epf e wisz tvsuph ginemi mief djesedvis.

 

[G-Man]

opvisitvitoph... xjev nelit zua vjopl Ezp Sepf jevit qsivvz mefoit?

E cov ug tesdetn, cav ziej, cetif up vji xez vji djesedvist esi qusvsezif vjev tiint vu ci vji deti. Fehpz ot evvsedvowi cav ot qusvsezif et cioph e huuf qistup emnutv op tqovi ug jis evvsedvowipitt.