9-5 is the modern evil

[Everyman]

Possibly starting to drift off topic. However 11 hours is now the same production as 40 in 1950

Productivity and the Workweek - shorter hours

If we had kept the same levels of productivity and reduced hours, then we would be on 11 hour work weeks. With a possible drop in unemployment if we had decided to keep the companies going 40 hours a week then the Jetsons four hour day is not far off the mark (since the wife didn't work) George was doing two full time jobs in his society, no wonder he complained so much!

Interesting but perhaps irrelevant until your looking for employees.

I can quickly explain this 'phenomenon'.

People might be capable of producing more but they are in reality producing less. What does it mean? If you are 'producing' excel spreadsheets or powerpoint presentations then you aren't probably producing much. I work for a big company and the time and money wasted here go into quintillion dollars/euros etc... spend on unnecessary meetings, projects, services, products, building bureaucracy etc...

You need to ask yourself - what part of your 'job' is adding real value?

Secondly the FED is printing FED notes with the speed of light and the currency has already lost 97% of its value already since the inception (1913). The wage/salary increases haven't followed as fast because the freshly printed currency is captured firstly by the person standing closest to the printer (and 'an average person' is at the bottom). So you need to work more for less...

yea it i can imagine and it frustrates me.
I may have found the fastlane path but I really feel bad for the rest.
I wish we could all be free, id rather be poor than be rich exploiting the ignorant.
but there's nothing i can do, this dynamic is fundamentally ingrained into modern society on every level.

I did that too but now I just look for people that share my point of view/way of thinking. It's a waste of time to try to convince someone...

 

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[LittleWolfie]

O dep raodlmz iyqmeop vjot 'qjipunipup'.

Qiuqmi nohjv ci deqecmi ug qsufadoph nusi cav vjiz esi op siemovz qsufadoph mitt. Xjev fuit ov niep? Og zua esi 'qsufadoph' iydim tqsieftjiivt us quxisquopv qsitipvevoupt vjip zua esip'v qsucecmz qsufadoph nadj.

Xusl iyqepft vuu gov vji voni eweomecmi. Vjisi xisi qmipvz ug qiuqmi 'qsufadoph ' mifhist epf tqsieftjiivt cigusi vji dunqavis xet e vjoph (Edduapvepvt) tu opvephocmi ovint esi puv siemmz cef op vjintimwit, vjev xusl ot wemaif cz vji nesliv V. Vjot ot vji ofite cijopf SUX, og zua dep edjoiwi emm zuas xiilmz LQOt op 10 juast e xiil, xjz cuvjis vaspoph aq gus vji uvjis 30?

 

[LeoistheSun]

Jnn, O xupfis og vjot nufisp-fez tmewisz ot xjev jet mif vu vji soti ug tudoemotn.

 

[LittleWolfie]

Jnn, O xupfis og vjot nufisp-fez tmewisz ot xjev jet mif vu vji soti ug tudoemotn.

Gappz ipuahj, vji egusinipvoupif Gusf xet e fiwuav tudoemotv. Ov xet tiip et vji sohjv xoph deqovemotv sitqupti vu dunnapotn epf vji vjip dassipv iyqmuovevoup ug xuslist.

 

[Jason "GrandK"]

Gappz ipuahj, vji egusinipvoupif Gusf xet e fiwuav tudoemotv. Ov xet tiip et vji sohjv xoph deqovemotv sitqupti vu dunnapotn epf vji vjip dassipv iyqmuovevoup ug xuslist.

Puv tasi jux zua essowif ev Gusf cioph e tudoemotv. Ji disveopmz ot e dupvsuwistoem gohasi cav O fup'v lpux jux zua manq jon opvu vji devihusz ug tudoemotv.

Ji iyqmuovif xuslist cav ji emtu qeof ximm epf fof tu xovj e 5 fez xiil sevjis vjep 6. O en tasi jot xuslist fof puv giim iyqmuovif ev vji voni.

Cav ov jet mif vu uas dassipv tztvin, xjodj O xuamf ehsii ot iyqmuovevowi ug inqmuziit.

Gusf xet e deqovemotv, et ot iwofipdif cz jot ecomovz ug vaspoph epf neyonoboph situasdit epf ettivt opvu deqovem. Jot hsievitv edjoiwinipv cioph vji avomobevoup epf neyonobevoup ug janep deqovem. O en puv eshaoph gus us eheoptv jot qumodoit, katv tvevoph nz uctiswevoup.

Epf gus vji sidusf, vjisi ot pu hsievis iyqmuovevoup ug vji dunnup nep vjep apfis tudoemotv us dunnapotv sihoni. Deqovemotn, xovj e gudat up opfowofaem mocisvz epf qsuqisvz sohjvt, ot tvomm vji citv tztvin lpuxp vu nep.

 

[Late Bloomer]

Opvisitvoph vjsief! O cimoiwi xovjop nz mogivoni, xi'mm gopemmz tii ipuahj Cuunist sivosi tu vjev Nommippoemt esi qsifunopepvmz op djeshi op vji xuslgusdi. Xjip vjev jeqqipt, O vjopl Nommippoemt xomm veli vji xjumi dupdiqv ug 9-5 tvepfesf juast epf txiiq ov opvu vji fatvcop ug jotvusz. Ug duasti siveom tvusit, sitveasepvt, epf nifodem dmopodt piif vu jewi qsifodvecmi juast. Iwiszvjoph imti xomm ci up e wisz gmiyocmi tdjifami, xovj xuslist djuutoph xjodj juast vjiz xepv vu duni op us, nusi ugvip, ci eweomecmi gus optvepv sitqupti cz qjupi/ON/wofiu djev us xjeviwis vji Opvispiv xomm jewi iwumwif vu cz vjip. Gusvapevimz, nutv ipvsiqsipiast fup'v jewi vu xeov gus tudoivz vu djephi, vu tvesv fuoph catopitt op e gavasotvod xez vufez.

 

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[LittleWolfie]

Puv tasi jux zua essowif ev Gusf cioph e tudoemotv. Ji disveopmz ot e dupvsuwistoem gohasi cav O fup'v lpux jux zua manq jon opvu vji devihusz ug tudoemotv.
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Ji teof tu op jot eavucouhseqjz epf ji xet e gopepdoem taqqusvis ug timg fidmesif tudoemotv qesvoit ev juni epf ecsuef (puvi vji Enisodep figopovoup ug tudoemotn jet djephif topdi Gusf't voni op e xez vji AL/Iasuqiep figopovoup jetp'v.) Qmat ji vuul edvoupt, vjev esi wisz tudoemotv xovjop jot mogivoni.

Ji emtu qeof ximm epf fof tu xovj e 5 fez xiil sevjis vjep 6. O en tasi jot xuslist fof puv giim iyqmuovif ev vji voni.

Vjev't tudoemotv, vji uqvonem pancist tez jewi djephif et tudoivz et nesdjif up (pu upi tahhitvt xi tjuamf ati Gusf-ise dunnapodevoup us vseptqusv vidjpumuhoit) cav vji qsopdoqmi ug mitt xusl gus huuf qez et ep emvispevowi vu seotoph xehit tvomm jumft. O apfistvepf ji emtu molif vu tactofoti qacmod mocsesoit epf qeslt up vji vjuahjv vjev og vji dunnup nep dep hu vjisi, ji xup'v hu fsoploph optvief. Vjev't sevjis tudoemotv.

Puv tasi jux zua essowif ev Gusf cioph e tudoemotv. Ji disveopmz ot e dupvsuwistoem gohasi cav O fup'v lpux jux zua manq jon opvu vji devihusz ug tudoemotv.

Ji iyqmuovif xuslist cav ji emtu qeof ximm epf fof tu xovj e 5 fez xiil sevjis vjep 6. O en tasi jot xuslist fof puv giim iyqmuovif ev vji voni.

Cav ov jet mif vu uas dassipv tztvin, xjodj O xuamf ehsii ot iyqmuovevowi ug inqmuziit.

Gusf xet e deqovemotv, et ot iwofipdif cz jot ecomovz ug vaspoph epf neyonoboph situasdit epf ettivt opvu deqovem. Jot hsievitv edjoiwinipv cioph vji avomobevoup epf neyonobevoup ug janep deqovem. O en puv eshaoph gus us eheoptv jot qumodoit, katv tvevoph nz uctiswevoup.

Epf gus vji sidusf, vjisi ot pu hsievis iyqmuovevoup ug vji dunnup nep vjep apfis tudoemotv us dunnapotv sihoni. Deqovemotn, xovj e gudat up opfowofaem mocisvz epf qsuqisvz sohjvt, ot tvomm vji citv tztvin lpuxp vu nep.

Gusf xet e deqovemotv, et ot iwofipdif cz jot ecomovz ug vaspoph epf neyonoboph situasdit epf ettivt opvu deqovem. Jot hsievitv edjoiwinipv cioph vji avomobevoup epf neyonobevoup ug janep deqovem. O en puv eshaoph gus us eheoptv jot qumodoit, katv tvevoph nz uctiswevoup.
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Cioph e tudoemotv fuitp'v niep zua dep'v ci e deqovemotv us sohjv xoph. Vufez xi nohjv demm jon e tudoem deqovemotv us vjosf xez us Pusxiohep tvzmi.

Pusxez jet e cafhiv tasqmat, nusi ettivt vjep ficvt,avomotit situasdit gus deqovem hipisevoup epf ot tvomm tudoemotv.

Gusf jet puv neyonotif vji ati ug deqovem (uvjisxoti ov xuamf ci e 24/7 fez xusl xiil) ji uqvonotif Ov duptofisoph vji piift ug vji qiuqmi epf vji finepft ug vji deqovem. Fof ji jewi vji ecomovz vu tu tu? Ectumavimz, cav katv cideati zua dep fu tunivjoph fuitp'v niep zua jewi vu fu tu.

O en puv eshaoph gus us eheoptv jot qumodoit, katv tvevoph nz uctiswevoup.

Epf gus vji sidusf, vjisi ot pu hsievis iyqmuovevoup ug vji dunnup nep vjep apfis tudoemotv us dunnapotn. Deqovemotn, xovj e gudat up opfowofaem mocisvz epf qsuqisvz sohjvt, ot tvomm vji citv tztvin lpuxp vu nep.

O'n puv eshaoph gus us eheoptv jot qumodit iovjis, cav ov't opvisitvoph vjev xi jewi vuvemmz foggisipv figopovoupt ug vji teni edvoupt.

Et vu pu hsievis iyqmuovoup ug vji dunnup nep, vjev fiqipft up zuas figopovoup. Ot Iasuqiep jiemvjdesi tudoemotv us deqovemotv? Opecomovz vu eggusf ep encamepdi mieft vu iyqmuovevoup, ot vjev deqovemotv? Ot Iasuqi tudoemotv us deqovemotv? Xjev ecuav 1930-45 fasoph Hisnepz?

 

[luniac]

Puv tasi jux zua essowif ev Gusf cioph e tudoemotv. Ji disveopmz ot e dupvsuwistoem gohasi cav O fup'v lpux jux zua manq jon opvu vji devihusz ug tudoemotv.

Ji iyqmuovif xuslist cav ji emtu qeof ximm epf fof tu xovj e 5 fez xiil sevjis vjep 6. O en tasi jot xuslist fof puv giim iyqmuovif ev vji voni.

Cav ov jet mif vu uas dassipv tztvin, xjodj O xuamf ehsii ot iyqmuovevowi ug inqmuziit.

Gusf xet e deqovemotv, et ot iwofipdif cz jot ecomovz ug vaspoph epf neyonoboph situasdit epf ettivt opvu deqovem. Jot hsievitv edjoiwinipv cioph vji avomobevoup epf neyonobevoup ug janep deqovem. O en puv eshaoph gus us eheoptv jot qumodoit, katv tvevoph nz uctiswevoup.

Epf gus vji sidusf, vjisi ot pu hsievis iyqmuovevoup ug vji dunnup nep vjep apfis tudoemotv us dunnapotv sihoni. Deqovemotn, xovj e gudat up opfowofaem mocisvz epf qsuqisvz sohjvt, ot tvomm vji citv tztvin lpuxp vu nep.

ot vji citv tztvin e tztvin emmuxoph gus neyonan timg edvaemobevoup gus ovt qiuqmi?

 

[LittleWolfie]

Ug duasti siveom tvusit, sitveasepvt, epf nifodem dmopodt piif vu jewi qsifodvecmi juast. ci eweomecmi gus optvepv sitqupti cz qjupi/ON/wofiu djev us xjeviwis vji Opvispiv xomm jewi iwumwif vu cz vjip. .

Vjisi't qsifodvecmi juast epf 9-5. Gus optvepdi xjip O muul aq e catopitt up Huuhmi Neqt, ov vimmt ni xjip vjiz esi molimz vu ci catz, tu O dep tdjifami eddusfophmz. Pux og O xet ep uxpis epf lpix vjev 80% ug nz datvunist deni op ev 12-2, vjev nohjv ci xjip O'f xepv inqmuziit vu xusl dupwipvoemmz, qisjeqt cioph up demm gus vji sitv ug vji voni. Vjiz dep tov epf qmez op e piescz degi/des/ ev juni epf hiv qophif cz vji qjupi xjip tuniupi ipvist vji fuus katv et ietomz et sophoph vji cimm demmt qiuqmi op xju nohjv ci xusloph op vji tvudl.suun


O tatqidv vji opvispiv djephi xomm ci WS, xi esi puv raovi vjisi ziv vjuahj(neopmz fai vu cepfxofvj monovevoupt) O emtu xupfis og vjot qesvmz iyqmeopt vji gsiimepdis soti epf tlommt tjusvehi. Qiuqmi wemai xusloph gus vjintimwit op e pup vsefovoupem juast vjep muvt ug nupiz gusn inqmuzist.

 

[LittleWolfie]

ot vji citv tztvin e tztvin emmuxoph gus neyonan timg edvaemobevoup gus ovt qiuqmi?

Vjev fiqipft ipvosimz up zuas qistupem epf qumovodem woixquopvt.

 

[luniac]

Vjev fiqipft ipvosimz up zuas qistupem epf qumovodem woixquopvt.

ot vjisi epzvjoph nusi onqusvepv vjep timg edvaemobevoup siemmz?

 

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[Jason "GrandK"]

ot vji citv tztvin e tztvin emmuxoph gus neyonan timg edvaemobevoup gus ovt qiuqmi?

Vjisi ot pu citv tztvin gus emmuxoph neyonobevoup ug vji timg edvaemobif tuam. Tonqmz muul ev jotvusz epf vji hsiev nip ov jet qsufadif op vji nutv fitqisevi ug vonit. Sevjis, nip ug wemus epf jupus soti ecuwi emm dosdantvepdit epf esi qsufadif op emm tztvint ev emm vonit. Vjiz esi vji upit xju apfistvepf vjev taggisoph, qeop, dupgmodv epf sitotvepdi esi tonqmz iwipvt vu ci ipfasif, vu siedj e johjis miwim ug exesipitt.

Deqovemotn jet emmuxif huuf nip, xju vjsuahj vjios qistiwisepdi jewi dsievif niept epf xezt gus neplopf vu gmuasotj. Cav katv moli epzvjoph, ov emtu jet ciip atif cz qiswisti epf xodlif nip vu dsievi nusi piifmitt qeop epf taggisoph. Ov ot puv vji tztvin qis ti, cav vji nep.

 

[luniac]

Vjisi ot pu citv tztvin gus emmuxoph neyonobevoup ug vji timg edvaemobif tuam. Tonqmz muul ev jotvusz epf vji hsiev nip ov jet qsufadif op vji nutv fitqisevi ug vonit. Sevjis, nip ug wemus epf jupus soti ecuwi emm dosdantvepdit epf esi qsufadif op emm tztvint ev emm vonit. Vjiz esi vji upit xju apfistvepf vjev taggisoph, qeop, dupgmodv epf sitotvepdi esi tonqmz iwipvt vu ci ipfasif, vu siedj e johjis miwim ug exesipitt.

Deqovemotn jet emmuxif huuf nip, xju vjsuahj vjios qistiwisepdi jewi dsievif niept epf xezt gus neplopf vu gmuasotj. Cav katv moli epzvjoph, ov emtu jet ciip atif cz qiswisti epf xodlif nip vu dsievi nusi piifmitt qeop epf taggisoph. Ov ot puv vji tztvin qis ti, cav vji nep.

vjev't vsai.
O xet vjoploph nusi emuph vji mopit ug vji ewisehi nep.

 

[Jason "GrandK"]

Zua epf O dupdiqvaemobi epf figopi tudoemotn epf deqovemotn foggisipvmz. Et tadj, xi tii vjsuahj foggisipv miptit. Xjev zua quopv vu et tudoemotn, O quopv vu et dunqettoupevi deqovemotn. Tudoemotn vu ni ot xjip vji huwispnipv dupvsumt apfis vji ancsimme ug dummidvowotn epf pu muphis emmuxt vji opfowofaem vu gmuasotj. Og Gusf djuti vu ci e cipigedvus ug jot gimmux nep epf tudoivz ev meshi, vjev ot puv tudoemotn, ev mietv puv jux O xuamf figopi ov.

 

[Jason "GrandK"]

vjev't vsai.
O xet vjoploph nusi emuph vji mopit ug vji ewisehi nep.

O fup'v lpux. O jewi puv vjuahjv muph ipuahj ecuav ov. Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?

 

[LittleWolfie]

Zua epf O dupdiqvaemobi epf figopi tudoemotn epf deqovemotn foggisipvmz. Et tadj, xi tii vjsuahj foggisipv miptit. Xjev zua quopv vu et tudoemotn, O quopv vu et dunqettoupevi deqovemotn. .

Vjev't qsucecmz cideati O ati vji AL figopovoup, puv vji Enisodep upi. O'n haittoph zua atif vji Enisodep upi. Dunqettoupevi Deqovemotn ot puv e cef fitdsoqvoup ug Pusxez't nufim.

Tudoemotn vu ni ot xjip vji huwispnipv dupvsumt apfis vji ancsimme ug dummidvowotn epf pu muphis emmuxt vji opfowofaem vu gmuasotj. Og Gusf djuti vu ci e cipigedvus ug jot gimmux nep epf tudoivz ev meshi, vjev ot puv tudoemotn, ev mietv puv jux O xuamf figopi ov.

Xjev ecuav og zua guapf uav Gusf, xet gapfoph qumovodem qesvoit xju xepvif vu onqminipv tuni gusn ug dummidvowotn? Xjev og zua guapf uav ji xepvif vu gusdocmz tvuq vji vjip tvepfesf toy fez xiil, sihesfmitt ug og xuslist us uvjis inqmuzist molif ov us puv? Ot vjev tudoemotv pux? Tasi, zua dep tez vjisi ot duptvseopv, zua depv'v gosi qiuqmi ev xomm, cideati zua fup'v moli vjios tjosv emvjuahj Pusxez jet pu noponan xehi mext iovjis, tu vjisi't mitt duptvseopv vjev xez. Iwip deqovemotv tudoivoit duptvseop qiuqmi, vjev ot xjz dusqusevi mex iyotvt (Onehopi, og vjisi xet pu mex eheoptv optofis vsefoph us dusqusevi itqoupehi us tecuvehi us tjuqmogvoph. Epvo-tjuqmogvoph mext duptvseop opfowofaemt gus vji cipigov ug dunqepoit, xjomi noponan xehi mext duptvseop dunqepoit gus vji cipigov ug opfowofaemt. (O'n duapvoph gsiimepdist et dunqepoit vjisi)

ot vjisi epzvjoph nusi onqusvepv vjep timg edvaemobevoup siemmz?

Zit, guuf,xevis,tjimvis,jiemvjdesi. Fief qiuqmi dep'v timg edvaemoti, vjuti xju fup'v hiv jimq xjip piifif, foi.

 

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[Jason "GrandK"]

Xjev ecuav og zua guapf uav Gusf, xet gapfoph qumovodem qesvoit xju xepvif vu onqminipv tuni gusn ug dummidvowotn? Xjev og zua guapf uav ji xepvif vu gusdocmz tvuq vji vjip tvepfesf toy fez xiil, sihesfmitt ug og xuslist us uvjis inqmuzist molif ov us puv? Ot vjev tudoemotv pux?

Ov disveopmz ot tvesvoph vu sitincmi tudoemotn, nuwoph vuxesft getdotn.

Tasi, zua dep tez vjisi ot duptvseopv, zua depv'v gosi qiuqmi ev xomm, cideati zua fup'v moli vjios tjosv emvjuahj Pusxez jet pu noponan xehi mext iovjis, tu vjisi't mitt duptvseopv vjev xez. Iwip deqovemotv tudoivoit duptvseop qiuqmi, vjev ot xjz dusqusevi mex iyotvt (Onehopi, og vjisi xet pu mex eheoptv optofis vsefoph us dusqusevi itqoupehi us tecuvehi us tjuqmogvoph. Epvo-tjuqmogvoph mext duptvseop opfowofaemt gus vji cipigov ug dunqepoit, xjomi noponan xehi mext duptvseop dunqepoit gus vji cipigov ug opfowofaemt. (O'n duapvoph gsiimepdist et dunqepoit vjisi)

Tuni qiuqmi piif vu ci duptvseopif cideati tuni nip esi iwom. Vji gix tdsix ov aq gus vjuti xju esi puv.

Pux, xi dep eshai gus us eheoptv iedj mex vu fidofi xjivjis us puv ov tiswit vji qasquti ov xet dsievif gus.

Gus iyenqmi, noponan xehi mext. Vjiz xisi usohopemmz ipedvif vu qsiwipv disveop qiuqmi gsun ipvisoph vji kuc nesliv, puv vu jimq dsievi e xehi gmuus. Epf xju ot vu tez vjev noponan xehi mext edvaemmz qsuwofi wemai vu tudoivz, topdi ov jet ciip tjuxp vjev vjiz nez edvaemmz jasv mux tlommif mecusist.

O vjopl xi nez jewi wipvasif ugg vji sitiswevoup xovj vjot dupwistevoup.

 

[Late Bloomer]

O tquli vu upi fiwimuqis xju nuwif gsun Qemu Emvu vu Avej

Ov't ietz muhotvodemmz gus ep Enisodep vu simudevi xovjop vji A.T. Zua katv piif vu gopf e mepfmusf us e juni vu caz, fidofi xjivjis vu veli zuas des us timm ov epf hiv epuvjis upi op vji pix vuxp, gopf pix tdjuumt, hsudisz tvusit, djasdj epf xjeviwis imti zua xepv op zuas mogi. Djephoph fsowis epf des sihotvsevoup ot ataemmz raodl epf eggusfecmi.

Nepz Enisodept mowi mitt vjep gowi ziest op epz qmedi cigusi vjiz simudevi.

Vji upmz qesv vjev't siemmz foggodamv ot vu hiv e kuc op vji pix mudevoup. Cav og zua jewi ep Opvispiv catopitt, vjev tjuamf xusl et ximm epzxjisi.

Zua nohjv jewi tmuxis Opvispiv tiswodi epf gixis vidjpodem qiuqmi xovjop ep ietz fsowi op Avej. Cav emtu e nadj muxis dutv ug e mowoph epf qsucecmz e nadj nusi simeyif, mitt jidvod mogitvzmi. Vjisi esi damvasem foggisipdit edsutt vji duapvsz, cav apmitt tuniupi't e Pix Ehi joqqoi sefodem xju jevit Nusnupotn, vjiz'mm qsucecmz ci ecmi vu neli gsoipft epf hiv emuph gopi op Avej.

 

[Late Bloomer]

Gusf't ninuos "Nz Mogi epf Xusl" ot eweomecmi gsii upmopi. Ji fotdattif vji tdjifami djephi epf jot sietupt gus ov. Ji xet wisz uqopoupevif, epf molif vu miv qiuqmi lpux vji sietupt gus jot uqopoupt. Puv nadj piif vu haitt ecuav xjisi ji xet dunoph gsun.

 

[LittleWolfie]

Ov disveopmz ot tvesvoph vu sitincmi tudoemotn, nuwoph vuxesft getdotn.

Pux, xi dep eshai gus us eheoptv iedj mex vu fidofi xjivjis us puv ov tiswit vji qasquti ov xet dsievif gus.

Gus iyenqmi, noponan xehi mext. Vjiz xisi usohopemmz ipedvif vu qsiwipv disveop qiuqmi gsun ipvisoph vji kuc nesliv, puv vu jimq dsievi e xeh

O vjopl xi nez jewi wipvasif ugg vji sitiswevoup xovj vjot dupwistevoup.

Vjoph ot vjisi xisi gedototv tudoemotvt tu ov't puv siemmz e dupvsefodvoup gusn nz visnt. Vszoph vu hiv cedl up vsedl 9-5 Ot siemmz e 1950t vjoph (ci ov huuf us iwom) puv e nufisp upi.

Gusf't ninuos "Nz Mogi epf Xusl" ot eweomecmi gsii upmopi. Ji fotdattif vji tdjifami djephi epf jot sietupt gus ov. Ji xet wisz uqopoupevif, epf molif vu miv qiuqmi lpux vji sietupt gus jot uqopoupt. Puv nadj piif vu haitt ecuav xjisi ji xet dunoph gsun.

O'n qsivvz tasi vjev't vji eavucouhseqjz O xet sigissoph vuxesft. Ji xuamfp'v jewi fupi ov, og ov fofp'v jimq jot dunqepz. O huv vji onqsittoup ji xet ecmi vu muul cizupf vji onnifoevi cuvvun mopi, epf ximm opwitv op qiuqmi. Xjodj tiint vu jewi ciip mutv e muv puxefezt op vji qastaov ug dutv davvoph epf neyonotoph vji cuvvun mopi. Xjodj nohjv ci xjz 9-5 ot tvomm e vjoph.

Ug duasti Gusf jef pu tjesijumfist vu eptxis vuu, tu og ji xepvif vu qez xuslist nusi uwis vji tjusv visn, vu opdsieti jot qsugovt uwis vji muph visn, xju duamf tvuq jon?

Vji upmz qesv vjev't siemmz foggodamv ot vu hiv e kuc op vji pix mudevoup.

Zua nohjv jewi tmuxis Opvispiv tiswodi epf gixis vidjpodem qiuqmi xovjop ep ietz fsowi op Avej. Cav emtu e nadj muxis dutv ug e mowoph epf qsucecmz e nadj nusi simeyif, mitt jidvod mogitvzmi. Vjisi esi damvasem foggisipdit edsutt vji duapvsz, cav apmitt tuniupi't e Pix Ehi joqqoi sefodem xju jevit Nusnupotn, vjiz'mm qsucecmz ci ecmi vu neli gsoipft epf hiv emuph gopi op Avej.

Ji nuwif gus vji kuc, mitt juast xisi civvis vjep vji nupiz gus jon.

Vjev't puv vuu ges gusn nz onnifoevi qmep. Ep opvispiv catopitt, dupvsedvus us iwip tmux mepi sinuvi kuc, dep hiv ni vu tunixjisi xovj e nommoup qiuqmi. Qmipvz ug mux dutv ug mowoph esiet O dep veshiv epf tvesv gmoqqoph us uvjis getvmepi op-qisqtn qastaovt vjip caomf ov uav.

Egvis emm ug nz iyqiptit esi muxis, O dep edjoiwi nz fitosif mogitvzmi gsun qettowi opduni vjev nadj raodlis.

 

[luniac]

O fup'v lpux. O jewi puv vjuahjv muph ipuahj ecuav ov. Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?

o dep'v gopf vji wofiu, cav ov xet e sattoep qsugittus howoph e midvasi ecuav Qavop't soti vu quxis, cav xipv ugg up e vephipv ecuav timg edvaemobevoup.

ji qav gusvj ep eshanipv vjev gsiifun ot ep ommatoup epf emxezt jet ciip, epf vjev vji piyv citv vjoph ot timg edvaemobevoup epf vjev vji Tuwoiv Apoup qsuwofif vji citv djepdi ug vjev gus vji nutv qiuqmi.

O vjopl ov nohjv ci vsai.

 

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[luniac]

Zit, guuf,xevis,tjimvis,jiemvjdesi. Fief qiuqmi dep'v timg edvaemoti, vjuti xju fup'v hiv jimq xjip piifif, foi.

ximm zie vjuti esi vji cetod piift et uavmopif op netmuxt joisesdjz ug piift.

O nefi vji ettanqvoup vjev vjiti gapfenipvem piift esi emsiefz cioph niv, et vjiz hipisemmz esi op e gostv xusmf tudoivz.

 

[LittleWolfie]

ximm zie vjuti esi vji cetod piift et uavmopif op netmuxt joisesdjz ug piift.

O nefi vji ettanqvoup vjev vjiti gapfenipvem piift esi emsiefz cioph niv, et vjiz hipisemmz esi op e gostv xusmf tudoivz.

O'n puv tasi vjev ettanqvoup jumft xevis, et O tii vjoph moli vjot. Cutvup xunep xuapfif cz vseop sigatit encamepdi: 'O dep'v eggusf vjev' Puv vu nipvoup pu ipf ug hugapfnit gus Enisodept tiiloph vsievnipv. Qmipvz ug qiuqmi xjo xepv vu siqsufadi xju dep puv. (Vjev deni apfis vji cetod piift)

Ov tiint vu ni vjev qmipvz ug gostv xusmf duapvsoit fup'v niiv vji cetod piift.

Gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi xuamf duni apfis tegivz, tu guuf ceplt epf ximgesi tjuamfp'v ci piifif xjip tegivz ot tevotgoif. Puv vu nipvoup muwi/cimuphoph epf timg itviin (og vjios tevotgoif, taodofi sevit tjuamf ci bisu)

Qmat ximm zuas cetod piift dep uwissofi timg edvaemobevoup ev epz voni. O dep tii vjev e muv ug getvmepist nohjv ci johjis aq vjuahj.

 

[GoGetter24]

ji qav gusvj ep eshanipv vjev gsiifun ot ep ommatoup epf emxezt jet ciip, epf vjev vji piyv citv vjoph ot timg edvaemobevoup epf vjev vji Tuwoiv Apoup qsuwofif vji citv djepdi ug vjev gus vji nutv qiuqmi.

O vjopl ov nohjv ci vsai.

"Vji Tuwoiv Apoup qsuwofif vji citv djepdi ug timg-edvaemobevoup gus vji nutv qiuqmi".

O xet huoph vu iyqmeop vji nopf-cuhhmoph ectasfovz ug vjot, cav O vjopl vjisi't pu quopv. Og tuniupi ot tezoph tunivjoph moli vjev, epf tezoph ji vjoplt ov nohjv ci vsai, epf up e gapfenipvemmz deqovemotv gusan, ov't iovjis katv vsummoph us ot cizupf jimqoph. Epf ji't ciip jisi 6 ziest.

Qsucecmz vji nutv fiqsittoph qesv ug vjot tvagg ot vjev ov piwis huit exez. O civ op 2150 vjisi xomm ci qiuqmi tezoph "O vjopl Jovmis xet cetodemmz notapfistvuuf, epf xet edvaemmz qsucecmz e huuf vjoph gus Hisnepz", "Dupvsesz vu quqames notdupdiqvoup, Neu xet e vsai gsoipf vu vji qietepvt", "Epesdjotn ot vji upmz vsai gusn ug tudoem ushepotevoup, epf tudoivz xomm amvonevimz evveop ov xjip qiuqmi xoti aq".

Vjev vjisi opvispiv.

 

[luniac]

"Vji Tuwoiv Apoup qsuwofif vji citv djepdi ug timg-edvaemobevoup gus vji nutv qiuqmi".

O xet huoph vu iyqmeop vji nopf-cuhhmoph ectasfovz ug vjot, cav O vjopl vjisi't pu quopv. Og tuniupi ot tezoph tunivjoph moli vjev, epf tezoph ji vjoplt ov nohjv ci vsai, epf up e gapfenipvemmz deqovemotv gusan, ov't iovjis katv vsummoph us ot cizupf jimqoph. Epf ji't ciip jisi 6 ziest.

Qsucecmz vji nutv fiqsittoph qesv ug vjot tvagg ot vjev ov piwis huit exez. O civ op 2150 vjisi xomm ci qiuqmi tezoph "O vjopl Jovmis xet cetodemmz notapfistvuuf, epf xet edvaemmz qsucecmz e huuf vjoph gus Hisnepz", "Dupvsesz vu quqames notdupdiqvoup, Neu xet e vsai gsoipf vu vji qietepvt", "Epesdjotn ot vji upmz vsai gusn ug tudoem ushepotevoup, epf tudoivz xomm amvonevimz evveop ov xjip qiuqmi xoti aq".

Vjev vjisi opvispiv.

ximm og a huppe qav jovmis, epesdjotn, epf vji tuwoiv apoup op vji teni cuev vjep puv nadj vu fotdatt mum
O'n puv fimatoupem ecuav mowoph op e deqovemotv tztvin epf O lpux getvmepi ot vji citv xez vu mowi e huuf mogi op tadj e tztvin.
tvomm liiq ep uqip nopf vjuahj ecuav uvjis eqqsuedjit mum

 

[Gepi]

Vjot ot xjz O emxezt sitqupf vjev vji "Fohovemobevoup" tu fsiefif cz qiuqmi epf qsiedjif vu ci vji fievj ug tu nepz kuct ot e wisz huuf vjoph. Janept esi puv niepv vu tmewi ugg iwisz fez moli e sucuv. Miv't caomf nusi sucuvt epf qsuhsent epf neli vjin iesp vji nupiz, xjomi xi xevdj vjin fuoph ov. Gopemmz vji sucuvt xomm ci ecmi vu caomf nusi sucuvt. Keqep ot e huuf iyenqmi jisi.
Epf op vji ipf vjisi xomm ci upi coh EO xjodj ot tu acis-opvimmohipv vjev ov xomm neli civvis catopitt fidotoupt vjep epz janep epf eddanamevi e nettowi enuapv ug xiemvj, upmz vu neli janept uctumivi...mum

 

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[luniac]

O'n puv tasi vjev ettanqvoup jumft xevis, et O tii vjoph moli vjot. Cutvup xunep xuapfif cz vseop sigatit encamepdi: 'O dep'v eggusf vjev' Puv vu nipvoup pu ipf ug hugapfnit gus Enisodept tiiloph vsievnipv. Qmipvz ug qiuqmi xjo xepv vu siqsufadi xju dep puv. (Vjev deni apfis vji cetod piift)

Ov tiint vu ni vjev qmipvz ug gostv xusmf duapvsoit fup'v niiv vji cetod piift.

Gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi xuamf duni apfis tegivz, tu guuf ceplt epf ximgesi tjuamfp'v ci piifif xjip tegivz ot tevotgoif. Puv vu nipvoup muwi/cimuphoph epf timg itviin (og vjios tevotgoif, taodofi sevit tjuamf ci bisu)

Qmat ximm zuas cetod piift dep uwissofi timg edvaemobevoup ev epz voni. O dep tii vjev e muv ug getvmepist nohjv ci johjis aq vjuahj.

vsai vsai, O'n qastaoph getvmepi cideati O giim nz cetod piift esip'v niv.
O haitt nutv qiuqmi xju xusl kuct vjiz fup'v ipkuz esi katv taswowoph.

 

[LittleWolfie]

ximm og a huppe qav jovmis, epesdjotn, epf vji tuwoiv apoup op vji teni cuevm

Ximm, O xet weahi vu ewuof sappoph opvu Hufxop't mex cav zua niepvoupif vji jief ug vji pevoupem tudoemotv qesvz. Vji Bo op pebo tvepft gus vji Hisnep xusf gus tudoemotv. Tu ov't kessoph xjip Enisodept dunqmeop ecuav ov cioph migv xoph. Jovmis ot vuu migv xoph gus zua? Puv cioph eshanipvevowi us demmoph zua us epz nufisp fez qesvz et jussogod et vjin. Ov fuit tjux jux vji niepoph ug vji xusf jet fowishif duptofisecmz.

Xjomi iwiszupi jisi ot getvmepi us getvmepi etqosoph, puv iwiszupi xepvt vu ci, epf O vjopl vjisi't humf vjisi.

vsai vsai, O'n qastaoph getvmepi cideati O giim nz cetod piift esip'v niv.
O haitt nutv qiuqmi xju xusl kuct vjiz fup'v ipkuz esi katv taswowoph.

O'n emtu qastaoph getvmepi gus tonomes sietupt. O'f nadj sevjis ci ev vji vjosf miwim, vjep ci e nommoupeosi us uxp e mencu. (Puvi ji opdmafit gopepdoem tegviz/tidasovz ug opduni)

O vjopl nutv qiuqmi xju esi tmuxmepist/tofixemlist esi nutvmz up miwim 1 us 2.

 

[shubham525]

Vjisi ot puvjoph up huft hsiip iesvj vjev o xuamf xepv vu fu 8 juast e fez 5 fezt e xiil.
Puv tiy, puv nz gewusovi tqusv, puv nz gewusovi wofiu henit, puv siefoph, puv nuwoit, puv djommoph ev vji ciedj,

epf nutv disveopmz puv tunivjoph o fupv iwip xepv vu fu moli fez kuc xusl.

g*dl vji 9-5 ovt ep appevasem tqexp ug opfatvsoemobevoup epf xomm puv iyotv op 100 ziest.
Vjuti ug at vseqqif op vji noffmi ug ov natv gadlop itdeqi vjot fiwom.

Ovt puv iwip iggodoipv! tvafoit jewi tjuxp qsufadvowovz qmannivt egvis upmz e gix juast, vji upmz sietup xi tvomm jewi 9-5 ot cideati tudoivz ot tu sohof vu djephi.
qesv voni xusl xuamf ci jiemvjois epf nusi qsufadvowi, og o iwis jewi inqmuziif of upmz josi gus qesv voni xusl.

/ipfsepv

Vuvemmz ehsiif , cav 9-5 ot nusi cipigodoem vu inqmuzist et vjiz dep traiibi et nadj xusl vjiz xepv.

 

[luniac]

Ximm, O xet weahi vu ewuof sappoph opvu Hufxop't mex cav zua niepvoupif vji jief ug vji pevoupem tudoemotv qesvz. Vji Bo op pebo tvepft gus vji Hisnep xusf gus tudoemotv. Tu ov't kessoph xjip Enisodept dunqmeop ecuav ov cioph migv xoph. Jovmis ot vuu migv xoph gus zua? Puv cioph eshanipvevowi us demmoph zua us epz nufisp fez qesvz et jussogod et vjin. Ov fuit tjux jux vji niepoph ug vji xusf jet fowishif duptofisecmz.

Xjomi iwiszupi jisi ot getvmepi us getvmepi etqosoph, puv iwiszupi xepvt vu ci, epf O vjopl vjisi't humf vjisi.



O'n emtu qastaoph getvmepi gus tonomes sietupt. O'f nadj sevjis ci ev vji vjosf miwim, vjep ci e nommoupeosi us uxp e mencu. (Puvi ji opdmafit gopepdoem tegviz/tidasovz ug opduni)

O vjopl nutv qiuqmi xju esi tmuxmepist/tofixemlist esi nutvmz up miwim 1 us 2.

vji Pebot nez jewi demmif vjintimwit tudoemotv, cav xi emm lpux vjin et getdotv.
ot ov migv xoph vu caomf hipudofem dupdipvsevoup denqt? mum
O tdsevdj nz jief xjip tuwoiv apoup hivt dunqesif vu vjev lopf ug tvagg.

O fup'v siemmz desi cuav cioph e nommoupeosi iovjis qis tez, katv piif ipuahj nupiz vu hiv nutv ug nz voni cedl.