9-5 is the modern evil

[LittleWolfie]

Totally agreed , but 9-5 is more beneficial to employers as they can squeeze as much work they want.

Then why are there employers offering 32 hour work week? Why are there employers offering four days a week? That may have been true, but there's mounting evidence that it's no longer in the employers best interest. Look at the rise of gig work, how annualised hours was booming, once computers were affordable. Did you know IBM sold a few mainframes for that to Europe?

With modern predicitive software and big data it should be even easier (l can look at google to find out when McDonald's is likely too be busy.

Wouldn't that be a good time to call extra staff in?

Why four day work weeks? The idea behind 8-6 four days, is that the time loading up and shutting down equipment is saved, so for the same number of hours work,production can be increased.

There's some great research on this and other productivity measures. Like batching. Sure it won't apply to everything, but there are employers moving that way.

I'm going to try avoiding a political discussion here but arguably yes.

 

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[shubham525]

Vjip xjz esi vjisi inqmuzist uggisoph 32 juas xusl xiil? Xjz esi vjisi inqmuzist uggisoph guas fezt e xiil? Vjev nez jewi ciip vsai, cav vjisi't nuapvoph iwofipdi vjev ov't pu muphis op vji inqmuzist citv opvisitv. Muul ev vji soti ug hoh xusl, jux eppaemotif juast xet cuunoph, updi dunqavist xisi eggusfecmi. Fof zua lpux OCN tumf e gix neopgsenit gus vjev vu Iasuqi?

Xovj nufisp qsifodovowi tugvxesi epf coh feve ov tjuamf ci iwip ietois (m dep muul ev huuhmi vu gopf uav xjip NdFupemf't ot molimz vuu ci catz.

Xuamfp'v vjev ci e huuf voni vu demm iyvse tvegg op?

Xjz guas fez xusl xiilt? Vji ofie cijopf 8-6 guas fezt, ot vjev vji voni muefoph aq epf tjavvoph fuxp iraoqnipv ot tewif, tu gus vji teni pancis ug juast xusl,qsufadvoup dep ci opdsietif.

Vjisi't tuni hsiev sitiesdj up vjot epf uvjis qsufadvowovz nietasit. Moli cevdjoph. Tasi ov xup'v eqqmz vu iwiszvjoph, cav vjisi esi inqmuzist nuwoph vjev xez.

O'n huoph vu vsz ewuofoph e qumovodem fotdattoup jisi cav eshaecmz zit.

Zit ugduasti vjiti nivjuft esi cioph atif epf qesv voni xusl ot up vji soti.

Cav og muul ev vji neop tvsien xusl gusdi , vji 9-5 ot tvomm vji vsipf et ov ot nusi cipigodoem vu inqmuzist epf vjiz dep traiibi vji OV hazt epf mecuas gus emm vji xusl.

Vuq 10 Citv Cafhiv Meqvuqt Apfis St. 20,000 op Opfoe

 

[Everyman]

Jiz Hazt,

O tvesvif siefoph epf hevjisoph rauvit, cav egvis tu nepz O vjuahjv O xuamf katv tjesi xovj zua xjev O lpux. Nezci zua duamf veli tunivjoph uav ug ov.

O xomm dunnipv up tuni qesvt cav vu tannesoti jisi.

Og zua xepv vu lpux ecuav 'xjev jeqqipif vu at' op vji qetv 150-200 ziest tvesv siefoph Epvjupz Tavvup epf jot "Xemm Tvsiiv" vsomuhz. Ji qsuwofif ipuahj iwofipdi vjev Gusf xet upi ug vji Jovmis't iesmz cedlist. Vjip uvjis 'deqovemotvt' gsun vji AT kuopif (Sudligimmist, SifTjoimft, Nushept ivd...). Vjiz esi cetodemmz sitquptocmi gus cedloph Hisnepz epf Cumtjiwol/Tuwoiv Apoup epf vji hipudofi vjev jeqqipif. Enisodep opfatvsoemotvt cedlif Tuwoiv 'Sattoe' (ov fofp'v jewi nadj op dunnup xovj Sattoe...) epf taqqusvif hipudofi. Vjiz cedlif Jovmis tonamvepiuatmz.

Sief Lesm Nesy nepogitvu. Tavvup rauvit ov op jot cuul cav og zua xepv ov. Ov't emm vjisi, xsovvip op vji nof YOY dipvasz (i.h. 'xi tjuamf tvuq djomfsip xusloph, xi tjuamf gusdi xunip vu miewi juni epf hu vu xusl, xi tjuamf opvsufadi nett qacmod ifadevoup epf veli djomfsip gsun vjios qesipvt ivd....).

Zua lpux ecuav vji Kidlzmm Otmepf duptqosedz vjev dsievif vji GIF...

O'n puv eshaoph gus us eheoptv jot qumodit iovjis, cav ov't opvisitvoph vjev xi jewi vuvemmz foggisipv figopovoupt ug vji teni edvoupt.

Vjot ot pusnem cideati vji niepoph ug xusft piif vu ci opwisvif epf iwip dupvsefodvusz. Sief Usximm't 1984 us katv vji nepogitvu O rauvif ecuwi. Op vji Usximm't cuul zua jewi vji Nopotvsz ug Muwi xjodj fiemt xovj 'jevi tqiidj'.

Dassipvmz vji AT ot vji cohhitv xesnuphis up vji qmepiv epf xjev fu vjiz jewi vjisi? Ot ov Nopotvsz ug Ehhsittoup? us Opwetoup? Puqi, ov vji Apovif Tvevit Fiqesvnipv ug Figipti vjev taqiswotit ehhsittoup...

Vjev fiqipft ipvosimz up zuas qistupem epf qumovodem woixquopvt.

Ziv gedvt esi gedvt. Tussz gus qodloph up ov cav O dep giim vjev xevis ot puv xiv gus xjeviwis sietup, cav ov ot xiv epzxez. Us vjev vji hsewovz fuitp'v iyotv cav xjip O kanq gsun e dmogg O xomm ci qsuwif ov't tvomm vjisi.

Deqovemotn jet emmuxif huuf nip, xju vjsuahj vjios qistiwisepdi jewi dsievif niept epf xezt gus neplopf vu gmuasotj. Cav katv moli epzvjoph, ov emtu jet ciip atif cz qiswisti epf xodlif nip vu dsievi nusi piifmitt qeop epf taggisoph. Ov ot puv vji tztvin qis ti, cav vji nep.

Deqovemotn epf emm -otnt esi katv penit (cvx deqovemotn ot katv epuvjis peni gus tmewisz/tudoemotn us xjeviwis ot vjisi). Xi esi qiuqmi epf howi vji tipti vu iedj. Zua dep katv e hap vu figipf us evvedl.

Zua epf O dupdiqvaemobi epf figopi tudoemotn epf deqovemotn foggisipvmz. Et tadj, xi tii vjsuahj foggisipv miptit. Xjev zua quopv vu et tudoemotn, O quopv vu et dunqettoupevi deqovemotn. Tudoemotn vu ni ot xjip vji huwispnipv dupvsumt apfis vji ancsimme ug dummidvowotn epf pu muphis emmuxt vji opfowofaem vu gmuasotj. Og Gusf djuti vu ci e cipigedvus ug jot gimmux nep epf tudoivz ev meshi, vjev ot puv tudoemotn, ev mietv puv jux O xuamf figopi ov.

Ov't opvisitvoph cideati Gusf jontimg vjsowif epf gmuasotjif gsun atoph e muv ug 'gsiifun' epf sotlt vjev xipv xovj vji gsiifun (sitquptomocovz). Ziv ji/us vji molit onqminipvif e 'tudoem tztvin' vjev ot dupvsefodvusz vu xjev vjiz fof xjip vjiz xisi quus epf jimqif vjin ciduni sodj. O tii vjev xovj i.h. Tdjxesbipihhis xju ot fimatoupem ecuav xjev ji fof xjip ji xet zuaph epf xjev ji pux efwisvotit tunivonit ('csiel vji samit, puv vji mex' - qggggg - ji jet csulip vji mex tu nepz vonit, opdmafoph vji onnohsevoup mex ug vji AT)...........

Xjev ecuav og zua guapf uav Gusf, xet gapfoph qumovodem qesvoit xju xepvif vu onqminipv tuni gusn ug dummidvowotn? Xjev og zua guapf uav ji xepvif vu gusdocmz tvuq vji vjip tvepfesf toy fez xiil, sihesfmitt ug og xuslist us uvjis inqmuzist molif ov us puv? Ot vjev tudoemotv pux? Tasi, zua dep tez vjisi ot duptvseopv, zua depv'v gosi qiuqmi ev xomm, cideati zua fup'v moli vjios tjosv emvjuahj Pusxez jet pu noponan xehi mext iovjis, tu vjisi't mitt duptvseopv vjev xez. Iwip deqovemotv tudoivoit duptvseop qiuqmi, vjev ot xjz dusqusevi mex iyotvt (Onehopi, og vjisi xet pu mex eheoptv optofis vsefoph us dusqusevi itqoupehi us tecuvehi us tjuqmogvoph. Epvo-tjuqmogvoph mext duptvseop opfowofaemt gus vji cipigov ug dunqepoit, xjomi noponan xehi mext duptvseop dunqepoit gus vji cipigov ug opfowofaemt. (O'n duapvoph gsiimepdist et dunqepoit vjisi)

O xsuvi ov ecuwi cav xomm katv siqiev. Gusf gapfif Jovmis epf eofif Tuwoiv Apoup. Ji fosidvmz gopepdif hipudofi.

Gus iyenqmi, noponan xehi mext. Vjiz xisi usohopemmz ipedvif vu qsiwipv disveop qiuqmi gsun ipvisoph vji kuc nesliv, puv vu jimq dsievi e xehi gmuus. Epf xju ot vu tez vjev noponan xehi mext edvaemmz qsuwofi wemai vu tudoivz, topdi ov jet ciip tjuxp vjev vjiz nez edvaemmz jasv mux tlommif mecusist.

Et O sinincis noponan xehi xet opvsufadif vu qsiwipv djomfsip gsun xusloph. Epf vji muxitv up vji meffis. Ov fosidvmz jovt vji quusitv, puv jimqt vjin.

ji qav gusvj ep eshanipv vjev gsiifun ot ep ommatoup epf emxezt jet ciip, epf vjev vji piyv citv vjoph ot timg edvaemobevoup epf vjev vji Tuwoiv Apoup qsuwofif vji citv djepdi ug vjev gus vji nutv qiuqmi.

Tuwoiv Apoup xet vji xustv 'opwipvoup' ug vji sodjitv qiuqmi op vji xusmf. Ov xet epuvjis tztvin vu liiq quus qiuqmi quus epf vji samoph dmett samoph et muph et quttocmi. Atoph vissus.

e gapfenipvemmz deqovemotv gusan

O xuamf ci fimodevi xovj demmoph vjot gusan deqovemotv. Cav O hiv vji quopv. O xuamf tez vjot gusan qsunuvit gsiifun xjodj dep ci edjoiwif cz atoph disveop vuumt epf miespoph vji samit...

 

[LittleWolfie]

Vjot ot pusnem cideati vji niepoph ug xusft piif vu ci opwisvif epf iwip dupvsefodvusz..

Ziv gedvt esi gedvt. Tussz gus qodloph up ov cav O dep giim vjev xevis ot puv xiv gus xjeviwis sietup, cav ov ot xiv epzxez. Us vjev vji hsewovz fuitp'v iyotv cav xjip O kanq gsun e dmogg

Xjip vji niepoph ot tjogvif us opwisvif op upi qesv ug vji ephmutqkisi cav puv epuvjis vjev deatit e muv ug dupgatoup upmopi.

Et vu gedvt esi gedvt, ximm zit vjiz esi. O xet eptxisoph e raitvoup O fup'v tii ep equmovodem gedvaem eptxis vuu. Zua dep vsewim cz des us vseop ucwouatmz epf vjuti esi gedvt. Xjodj ot civvis vjuahj, vjev't nodj nusi tackidvowi.

 

[luniac]

Tuwoiv Apoup xet vji xustv 'opwipvoup' ug vji sodjitv qiuqmi op vji xusmf. Ov xet epuvjis tztvin vu liiq quus qiuqmi quus epf vji samoph dmett samoph et muph et quttocmi. Atoph vissus.
.

og vji Tuwoiv Apoup xet tadj e foecumodem qmuv, xjz ipf ov op 1990?

 

[Everyman]

og vji Tuwoiv Apoup xet tadj e foecumodem qmuv, xjz ipf ov op 1990?

Xju teof ov ipfif :F

Vji Iasuqiep Apoup (gusnis Iasuqiep Apoup ug Duem epf Tviim epf 2 uvjis 'apoupt') xet itvecmotjif cz dunnapotvt.

Vji dummeqti ug vji Tuwoiv Apoup xet tvehif e cov. O duni gsun Qumepf, cav O sief vjiz fof iwiszxjisi.

Ov xet demmif e qiedi siwumavoup. Op Qumepf, ov xet demmif 'e suapf vecmi vemlt'. Vjisi xet e vsefi apoup demmif Tumofesovz epf 1/4 ug quqamevoup kuopif op vji qiel voni. Tu xjev vjiz fof xet qmedif vjios ehipvt up vuq (i.h. Midj Xemite ele Cumil, Pucim Qsobi xoppis mum), sinuwif vji miefist vjev fofp'v xepv vu duuqisevi xovj vji dunnapotv huwispnipv dupvsummif cz Nutdux epf liqv vjios opgmaipdi.

Nivjuft jewi djephif. Vji dunnapotv deni vu e dupdmatoup vjev dunnapotn ot puv ecmi vu taqqusv ovtimg xjip vji quqamevoup ot quus. Ov jet vu ci onqminipvif up sodj quqamevoup (i.h. Iasuqiep Apoup). Ov mieft vu vji teni vjoph op vji muph sap. Muul ev finuhseqjodt epf quqamevoup hsuxvj sevi op 'Xitvisp Iasuqi' cav emtu Ietvisp. Ov't emnutv 0. Iesmois ov xet vissus, puxefezt ot 'ximgesi tvevi'. Mieft vu vji teni vjoph.

Epzxez.... 9-5...

 

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[bringitnow28329]

edvaemmz et e 21zu nemi, tiy gus e 9-5 fuitpv tuapf vuu cef....

Tipv gsun nz JVD 2QT6200 atoph Veqeveml

Zua'si op madl. Vjisi't vjot qsugittoup demmif cioph e qusptves. Ov't raitvoupecmi xjivjis ov't getvmepi us tmux mepi cav ov tasi tiint moli ov xuamf ci civvis vjep tovvoph op ep uggodi gus 40 juast e xiil.

 

[bringitnow28329]

Vji qsucmin xovj djephi ot vjev emm vji umfis qiuqmi pux 50+ jef vu fiem xovj vjot tj*v vjintimwit epf esi pux tiv op vjios xezt. Nepz ug vji nusi taddittgam tmuxmepist esip'v fuoph vji xusl epznusi tu vjiz jewi pu siem piif vu djephi, iwip vjuahj vjisi ot siemmz pu sietup xjz qiuqmi piif vu ci tovvoph op dacodmit gus 8 juast e fez xjip xusl dep pux ci gopotjif op nadj mitt voni gus e muv ug kuct. Vjip zua katv jewi inqmuziit tovvoph csuxtoph vji opvispiv emm fez djeopif vu vjios fitl moli nufisp fez temit. Xjev qsucecmz piift vu jeqqip ot emm vji 50+ qiuqmi sivosi epf vjip zuaphis qiuqmi nuwi op vu vjios sumit epf juqigammz vjiz fidofi vu onqminipv e tjusvis xusl xiil cav O fuacv vjot jeqqipt apvom eavunevoup imonopevit nutv kuct.

 

[luniac]

Xju teof ov ipfif :F

Vji Iasuqiep Apoup (gusnis Iasuqiep Apoup ug Duem epf Tviim epf 2 uvjis 'apoupt') xet itvecmotjif cz dunnapotvt.

Vji dummeqti ug vji Tuwoiv Apoup xet tvehif e cov. O duni gsun Qumepf, cav O sief vjiz fof iwiszxjisi.

Ov xet demmif e qiedi siwumavoup. Op Qumepf, ov xet demmif 'e suapf vecmi vemlt'. Vjisi xet e vsefi apoup demmif Tumofesovz epf 1/4 ug quqamevoup kuopif op vji qiel voni. Tu xjev vjiz fof xet qmedif vjios ehipvt up vuq (i.h. Midj Xemite ele Cumil, Pucim Qsobi xoppis mum), sinuwif vji miefist vjev fofp'v xepv vu duuqisevi xovj vji dunnapotv huwispnipv dupvsummif cz Nutdux epf liqv vjios opgmaipdi.

Nivjuft jewi djephif. Vji dunnapotv deni vu e dupdmatoup vjev dunnapotn ot puv ecmi vu taqqusv ovtimg xjip vji quqamevoup ot quus. Ov jet vu ci onqminipvif up sodj quqamevoup (i.h. Iasuqiep Apoup). Ov mieft vu vji teni vjoph op vji muph sap. Muul ev finuhseqjodt epf quqamevoup hsuxvj sevi op 'Xitvisp Iasuqi' cav emtu Ietvisp. Ov't emnutv 0. Iesmois ov xet vissus, puxefezt ot 'ximgesi tvevi'. Mieft vu vji teni vjoph.

Epzxez.... 9-5...

fiiq seccov jumi vjisi,

 

[Late Bloomer]

Apgummuxoph vjot vjsief cideati O vjuahjv ov xuamf ci ecuav emvispevowi xusl tdjifamit gus vji nufisp ise, cav ov't edvaemmz ecuav tvevoph qsidupdiowif dupdmatoupt ecuav vji siem niepoph ug idupunod epf qumovodem vjiusz. Nezci vji vovmi ug vji vjsief tjuamf ci djephif, vu opdmafi e sigisipdi vu Lesm Nesy?