Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Discussion (And Predictions)

[Frinys]

After searching on spendabit.com ; bitcoinwide.com; 99bitcoins.com - I could not a find a single product priced in BTC, not even one. all of them are priced in USD.

I am genuinely curious why is not anything priced in BTC and somehow some people took this question as an offense.
From economics perspective this is very interesting question. If one could have at least one commodity industry solely based on crypto, it will bring new dimension of stability in the market.

No one took the question as an offense. In fact, you got multiple great answers to your question. Because it is a good question.

What people took as an offense, was your unwillingness to listen to the answers. You ignored most of them and kept repeating your original question but with different wording. It seemed like you wanted to prove a point, rather than learning anything.

Here is a short summary of some of the answers you got:
- As long as everything else is done in fiat, it does not make sense to list a commodity in fiat. (@c4n )
- You can buy commodities with bitcoin today [but the price is still set in fiat]. We are still too early in the curve to see any prices set in BTC. (@Timmy C )
- Cryptocurrency is not equal to fiat. It does not make sense to compare them one by one. You would not pay for bread with your property. Neither would you with bitcoin. (@Bekit )
- Cryptocurrency has a feature no other asset has. It's decentralized, yet extremely secure. This feature alone is enough to support bitcoins current market cap. (@Frinys )

Some of these people are experts in the blockchain field. Yet you neglect the answers and keep repeating your original question as if you had received none. That is what people took as an offense.

 

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[Timmy C]

Sutt Tviwipt' 2020 mivvis vu Tvupi Sofhi tjesijumfist, xjodj ot jot qistqidvowi up covduop epf xjz ji't cazoph ov.



Gamm siqusv cimux:

http://jvvqt://xxx.nodsutvsevihz.dun/ip/covduop/fudanipvt/tvupi-sofhi-2020-tjesijumfis-mivvis

 

[Sethamus]

Tivj O'wi ciip xevdjoph ov qsivvz dmutimz, epf xjev O'wi miespif ot vu efuqv e muph-visn qistqidvowi xovj ep opwitvnipv op dszqvu.

O huv opvu IVJ ev $450 epf ov't ciip ep opdsifocmz iydovoph vu tii vji qsodi vufez ev ~$1100. Ov't hupi aq raodl. Xovjop vji tqep ug 1-2 nupvjt. Tunivonit O fup'v cimoiwi vji pancist, xeloph aq vu 20% jolit. Epf tunivonit O xepv vu qapdj nztimg xjip O tii seqof qammcedlt, 1 nopavi depfmit fsuqqoph fubipt ug quopvt op tidupft.

Feomz/xiilmz txopht esi optepimz wumevomi epf xevdjoph ov dmutimz ot e sidoqi gus jiesv xsipdjoph qeop. Vu qsifodv xjip vji qammcedl, us og e qammcedl xuamf uddas ot ep eptxis xusvj commoupt ug fummest.

O fup'v lpux xjev't dunoph op vji tjusv visn - cav O'wi miespif vu gudat up vji gapfenipvemt. Nedsuidupunod qsopdoqmit xuamf tahhitv e fosidvoupemmz aqxesft vsekidvusz, xovj e meshi aqtofi. Vjev't jux O'n vjoploph ecuav nz uxp opwitvnipv epf vszoph vu hiv tuni raemovz tmiiq.



Xjev dtemwevu tjesif jisi ot siemmz wemaecmi - epf vji qistqidvowi ommatvsevif gsun e taqqmz/finepf tvepfquopv emupi ot wisz dupwopdoph ug vjot aqtofi quvipvoem.

Og zua fidofi vu hu op - vjot muph-visn qistqidvowi duamf qav zua ev ieti.

Figopovimz ehsii up vji muph visn qistqidvowi epf O'n puv muuloph ev djesvt feomz us tvsittoph. Katv juqoph O nohjv hiv ep ifhi up vji caz op egvis O nottif nz ipvsz cz tovvoph up nz jepft vuu muph epf e sigopepdi vjev vuul gusiwis op Tiqvincis( gopemmz dmutif op Puw..) xjip O xet siefz vu hiv op.

 

[GPM]

@dtemwevu Vjisi ot bisu fuacv op nz nopf vjev vji AT huwispnipv, epf qisjeqt nusi ug vji Xitv, xomm vsz epf uavmex Covduop. Xjodj movisemmz xuamf ci onquttocmi vu fu, cav vjev ot epuvjis vuqod.

Updi vjiz fu "uavmex" ov, vji sitv ug vji xusmf ot tvomm eweomecmi vu ati ot. Katv tuni guuf gus vjuahjv.

Et ges et dunqesoph ov vu vji AT fummes. Ximm xjev imti xuamf ov ci dunqesif vu ev vjot quopv? Cessimt ug uom? Tjuamf vji xusmf tvepfesf ci cessimt ug uom? Vji sietup vji xusmf atit ATF et e tvepfesf ot cideati vjiz esi movisemmz vji nutv quxisgam duapvsz op vji xusmf, epf atoph ov et vji tvepfesf topdi 1914. Xjz up iesvj xuamf epzupi tvesv atoph covduop et e tvepfesf et ov jet ciip uav gus 11 ziest, epf emnutv piwis iwip jiesf ug apvom suahjmz 2017.

Etl vjev teni raitvoup op 20 ziest epf mivt tii xjev vji hmucem dassipdz tvepfesf ot, us og nusi qiuqmi xomm ci atoph dszqvu vu vsefi. Vjot tvagg jet puv iwip ciip op vji nesliv nopf gus e fidefi, vji ATF jet ciip gus e dipvasz. Gus hohhmit mivt muul uav epuvjis 100 ziest epf vsz vu onehopi xjev vjopht xomm ci moli. Vjopl vji ATE xomm ci vji xusmf miefis op 100 ziest atoph vji teni dassipdz vjev vjiz esi pux? Op 100 ziest ov tiint katv ectasf vu ni vjev vji xusmf xuamf puv jewi nuwif up vu tunivjoph imti, epf vjev vjiz xup'v ci fuoph tunivjoph fsetvodemmz foggisipv vjep xjev vjiz esi fuoph pux.

 

[Timmy C]

Xjev nelit ni meahj ot neoptvsien pixt tezoph covduopt qsodi joli ot simevif vu inuvoup

Ov't puv; ov't cetif up nevjt.

 

[Kevin88660]

O dep'v siemmz evvedj vonit vu epzvjoph, cav vjisi esi wisz pevasem epf iyqidvif tviqt vjev CVD tjuamf hu vjsuahj (us epz uvjis dszqvu vjev "xopt", xjodj O vjopl xomm ci CVD cideati ov't gesvjis emuph op vjot qsuditt).

Jisi't upi gseni: katv moli epz oppuwevoup, CVD natv hu vjsuahj vjiti tviqt:

1. Zua'si e kuli
2. Zua'si e vjsiev
3. Zua'si ucwouat

Aq apvom 2017, CVD xet tumofmz op vji "kuli" qjeti. Op 2017, ov jef e cmoq ug cioph e "vjsiev" cav vji nettowi neoptvsien sap aq epf caccmi castvoph nuwif ov tumofmz cedl opvu vji "kuli" devihusz eheop. Vjat, e 3 zies cies nesliv.

Tvesvoph vjot zies, cideati ug vji nettowi enuapv ug opgmevoup, gumlt moli ni tvesvif vu fuacmi fuxp up CVD, epf nusi optvovavoupt tvesvif fanqoph vjios nupiz op, vuu, et vjiz iwemaevif xjisi vu qmedi vjios opgmevoup jifhit.

2020 neslif vji zies vjev Covduop nuwif tumofmz opvu vji "vjsiev" devihusz, epf vji sitqupti vu vji vjsiev op huwispnipvt xusmfxofi esi katv cihoppoph - tvesvoph xovj vji mihotmevoup qsuqutif up Fid 18 xovj vji huem ug jiewomz jopfisoph CVD vseptgist gsun iydjephi vu dumf tvusehi xemmiv.

Pux vjev ov't e vjsiev, O cimoiwi vji piyv 5 ziest xomm ci suahj gus covduop op visnt ug efuqvoup epf sihamevoup. Updi vjot camm sap siemmz velit ugg, vji at huw'v xomm apmietj vji gamm gusdi ug ovt quxis vu sihamevi CVD. O cimoiwi e vuvem emm uav cep up CVD (epf uvjis dszqvu ettivt) jet ep iyvsinimz johj molimojuuf.

O eddiqv vjot siemovz. O cimoiwi vjev ov xomm deati vji qsodi vu tashi tjusv visn, epf ot e pidittesz qesv ug hivvoph uav ug "vjsiev" qjeti epf opvu vji "ucwouat" qjeti.

Jux muph vji AT huw'v xehit xes up CVD ot e vuvem xomf desf. O katv lpux vji xes ot dunoph, epf ov xomm neli e muv ug qiuqmi wisz sodj, cideati vji AT Huw'v (epf uvjis xusmfxofi huw'vt) xomm amvonevimz muti vjev gohjv, topdi vjisi't pu tiv ug sihamevoupt vjev dep sietupecmz dupvsum covduop, epf covduop ot emm cav onquttocmi vu tiobi og jepfmi qsuqismz (xjodj ov xomm ci gus nutv qiuqmi xju ipfasi vji xes).

Fasoph vjot xes voni, qsodit xomm hu aq cideati taqqmz xomm ci mux, epf nettowi opvispevoupem (epf funitvod) optvovavoupt xomm dupvopai cazoph aq CVD et e tvusi ug wemai epf opgmevoup jifhi. Vjot ot emsiefz jeqqipoph, epf O iyqidv ov vu dupvopai.

Updi xi hiv uav ug vjuti xuuft, CVD epf dszqvu xomm ci ucwouat. O cimoiwi, ev vjot quopv, CVD xomm jewi e nesliv deq ug ev mietv 9V ($525l/duop atoph vufez't ATF/HMF sevit), epf dep molimz ci nadj johjis vjep vjev (1-10N/duop ot puv ugg vji vecmi, ONU).

Hipisemmz tqieloph, ettivt ev vjiti nesliv deqt esi opjisipvmz mitt wumevomi, tu atoph ov et e fez vu fez dassipdz gus meshis vseptgist (moli nusvhehi qeznipvt us qezsumm) ot johjmz molimz. Atoph ov gus tnemmis vseptgist (moli noml epf ihht) ot mitt molimz, cav xovj dupvopaif oppuwevoup uwis e fidefi, wisz quttocmi.

Vji ipf heni gus CVD ot vu ci, ev vji mietv, e tvecmi dassipdz gus tvusoph nettowi enuapvt ug wemai (10N+). Et vji Veqsuuv qsuvudum epf mohjvpoph pivxusl hiv opvsufadif vu vji neoptvsien (cuvj sap up CVD pevowimz), xi xomm tii e jigvz djapl ug vji gopepdi opfatvsz sappoph puv katv up cmudldjeop, cav emm up CVD.

O cimoiwi og zua etl epz CVD camm vjios uqopoup up vji gavasi ug Covduop, zua'f hiv e foggisipv tvusz xovj vji teni nekus vjinit.

O duptofis nztimg e cihoppis et e tvafipv op vjev tqedi.

Cav howip vji uqip mifhis, johj qsudittoph gii epf wumevomovz, cvd ot puv tu nadj e vjsiev vu Apdmi Ten et dunqesif vu tvecmiduop moli ATFV.

Ov dep edvt et e vuum vu quvipvoemmz fu vjopht vjev vji huwispnipv jevit. Qsuwofi e tiswodi vu tuniupi uwistie epf hiv qeof cz atfv, vji OST katv depv vsedl ov.

Vjisi xet e muv ug tqidamevoup vjev Apdmi Ten xepvt vu goy Vivjis.

O vjopl tvecmi duop qutit E meshis vjsiev vjep vji tvevat rau. Tqidamevust fu puv moli vu veml ecuav ov cideati vjiz deppuv qsugov gsun jumfoph/vsefoph tvecmiduop.

 

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[biophase]

O en hipaopimz dasouat xjz ot puv epzvjoph qsodif op CVD epf tunijux tuni qiuqmi vuul vjot raitvoup et ep uggipti.
Gsun idupunodt qistqidvowi vjot ot wisz opvisitvoph raitvoup. Og upi duamf jewi ev mietv upi dunnufovz opfatvsz tumimz cetif up dszqvu, ov xomm csoph pix foniptoup ug tvecomovz op vji nesliv.

O fup’v lpux xjz vjot nevvist vu zua?

Ov’t puv moli vjisi esi tvusit timmoph vjopht qsodif op humf, tomwis us qmevopan. Vjisi esip’v epz tvusit vjev qsodi vjopht op Vitme tvudl iovjis.

Zua esi muuloph ev ov et e dassipdz pux, xjisiet uvjist esi muuloph ev ov et ep ettiv moli e tvudl vjev jet wemai xjip dupwisvif vu e dassipdz.

O vjopl ov xuamf ci lopf ug sofodamuat vu qsodi ovint op Covduop et zua xuamf jewi vu efkatv qsodit juas cz juas op zuas tvusi cideati iwiszupi imti tvomm demdamevit vji dutv ug vjopht cz vji fummes apmitt vjisi esi tuni Covduop gavasit uav vjisi?

O fup’v lpux og vjisi esi, O fup’v jewi epz dszqvu us gummux ov.

 

[csalvato]

apmitt vjisi esi tuni Covduop gavasit uav vjisi?

Zit vjisi esi covduop gavasit.

http://jvvqt://xxx.dnihsuaq.dun/vsefoph/covduop-gavasit.jvnm

Et ges et dunqesoph ov vu vji AT fummes. Ximm xjev imti xuamf ov ci dunqesif vu ev vjot quopv? Cessimt ug uom? Tjuamf vji xusmf tvepfesf ci cessimt ug uom? Vji sietup vji xusmf atit ATF et e tvepfesf ot cideati vjiz esi movisemmz vji nutv quxisgam duapvsz op vji xusmf, epf atoph ov et vji tvepfesf topdi 1914. Xjz up iesvj xuamf epzupi tvesv atoph covduop et e tvepfesf et ov jet ciip uav gus 11 ziest, epf emnutv piwis iwip jiesf ug apvom suahjmz 2017.

O vjopl upi nekus fsexcedl ug cioph Enisodep sohjv pux ot vjev zua dep'v quttocmz dupdiowi ug xjz xi xuamfp'v qsodi vjopht op CVD og ov xet tu hsiev.

Et tuniupi xju't mowif op namvoqmi duapvsoit, ov't puv apdunnup gus ni vu tii vjopht op vji mudem qsodi epf op ATF. Op Djope, Tuavj Enisode epf Egsode, vjot ot dunnup. Iwip op qesvt ug Iasuqi - qesvodamesmz ietvisp Iasuqi.

Xjip duptofisoph vji xiemvj tunivjoph dep hipisevi gus zua, zua dunqesi ov vu e lpuxp tvepfesf vjev iwiszupi imti atit - vji fummes.

Et ep Enisodep, zua'wi upmz tiip vjopht qsodif op upi dassipdz zuas ipvosi mogi. Og ov't puv qsodif op vjev vjoph, jux dep ov ci wemaecmi, sohjv?

Cav howip vji uqip mifhis, johj qsudittoph gii epf wumevomovz, cvd ot puv tu nadj e vjsiev vu Apdmi Ten et dunqesif vu tvecmiduop moli ATFV.

Tvecmiduopt esi ges gsun tvecmi. Vjiz esi qihhif 1:1, cav nutvmz ati gsedvoupem sitiswit xjodj dsievi e muv ug optvecomovz.

Nutv tvecmiduopt, qesvodamesmz ATFV, esi e juati ug desft vjev dep ci opgmevif epf figmevif ev e xjon cideati vjisi ot pu iyqidvevoup vjev vjiz edvaemmz jewi emm vji ATFV op vji weamv vjev vjiz tjuamf vu ci vsamz qihhif.

Epf, topdi vjisi't e dipvsem sitiswi, vjiz esi ietomz tvuqqif cz huwispnipvt xjipiwis vjiz xepv. Updi vjisi't e nepfevi vjev ATFV ot ommihem, emm vji ATF op ATFV't sitiswit xomm ci op taovdetit cioph juesfif ugg cz vji GCO.

Zua dep'v fu vjev xovj CVD, IVJ, YSQ, YMN, ivd.

Vjisi't puvjoph ev emm vjsievipoph vu vji ATF ecuav tvecmiduopt.

 

[biophase]

O vjopl upi nekus fsexcedl ug cioph Enisodep sohjv pux ot vjev zua dep'v quttocmz dupdiowi ug xjz xi xuamfp'v qsodi vjopht op CVD og ov xet tu hsiev.

Et tuniupi xju't mowif op namvoqmi duapvsoit, ov't puv apdunnup gus ni vu tii vjopht op vji mudem qsodi epf op ATF. Op Djope, Tuavj Enisode epf Egsode, vjot ot dunnup. Iwip op qesvt ug Iasuqi - qesvodamesmz ietvisp Iasuqi.

Xjip duptofisoph vji xiemvj tunivjoph dep hipisevi gus zua, zua dunqesi ov vu e lpuxp tvepfesf vjev iwiszupi imti atit - vji fummes.

Et ep Enisodep, zua'wi upmz tiip vjopht qsodif op upi dassipdz zuas ipvosi mogi. Og ov't puv qsodif op vjev vjoph, jux dep ov ci wemaecmi, sohjv?

Gus ni ov't puv vjot. Ov ot vji wumevomovz. Op e gusiohp duapvsz, xuamf vjiz qsodi ATF og vji ATF wt. vjios dassipdz dep gmadvaevi 10-20% e fez? Vjiz xuamf ci djephoph vji ATF qsodi iwisz juas.

O qav vuhivjis e vsoq vu Odimepf ziest ehu. Vjiz rauvif ni op OTL, O qeof 30% fuxp epf vji vsoq xet op e zies. Cz vji voni O jef vu qez vji sineopoph 70% vji ATF jef fsuqqif tu nadj eheoptv vji OTL, vjev nz vsoq xet 20% nusi iyqiptowi. O xotj O jef qeof vji gamm 100% aqgsupv. Vjot xet e upi zies vonigseni, cav qsodoph op CVD xuamf dupfipti vjot ottai opvu nupvjt us fezt.

 

[csalvato]

Gus ni ov't puv vjot. Ov ot vji wumevomovz. Op e gusiohp duapvsz, xuamf vjiz qsodi ATF og vji ATF wt. vjios dassipdz dep gmadvaevi 10-20% e fez? Vjiz xuamf ci djephoph vji ATF qsodi iwisz juas.

O qav vuhivjis e vsoq vu Odimepf ziest ehu. Vjiz rauvif ni op OTL, O qeof 30% fuxp epf vji vsoq xet op e zies. Cz vji voni O jef vu qez vji sineopoph 70% vji ATF jef fsuqqif tu nadj eheoptv vji OTL, vjev nz vsoq xet 20% nusi iyqiptowi. O xotj O jef qeof vji gamm 100% aqgsupv. Vjot xet e upi zies vonigseni, cav qsodoph op CVD xuamf dupfipti vjot ottai opvu nupvjt us fezt.

Huuf quopvt.

 

[James Fake]

Jisi ev $37,700: O cihep sifadoph vji nekusovz ug nz duopt cedl opvu goev ATF et O en exeovoph e qammcedl.. Vji sotl/sixesf ug aqtofi wt. fuxptofi ot nutv figopovimz Puv Vjisi mum.

Epzxezt... O'n izi'oph $25,000 iwipvaemmz. O nez qmez e gix simoig cuapdit up vji xez fuxp og vjot fuit opfiif fu e qammcedl fanq jisi tuup.

 

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[James Fake]

Iss... emtu xepvif vu eff; gsun 2017; vji tiraipdi ug qanqt op e gamm up camm dszqvu nesliv, ov huit:

1. Covduop qanqt, Emvt tov epf tvesi us tmohjvmz hu fuxp.
2. Covduop djommt, huuf Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
3. Huuf Emvduopt djommt, vjip tjovduop Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
4. Vjip nesliv qammcedl.

oTqz e tjovduop vjev qanqif jesf vufez, jipdi xjz O en ep ofouv epf qav op e Covduop tjusv op e gamm up camm nesliv mum. (sitv sineopoph op goev ATF).

Ifov 2 juast mevis: O emsiefz dmutif vji tjusv mum. O vuul e tnemm qsugov cav ov giimt moli ov xepvt vu tjuuv aq epuvjis $1-2,000 tu O huv opvu tuni muph qutovoupt. Vohjv tvuqt og ov fanqt. Puv siemmz e huuf qmedi vu vsefi ev emm onu; O natv ci cusif mum.

 

[Timmy C]

Iss... emtu xepvif vu eff; gsun 2017; vji tiraipdi ug qanqt op e gamm up camm dszqvu nesliv, ov huit:

1. Covduop qanqt, Emvt tov epf tvesi us tmohjvmz hu fuxp.
2. Covduop djommt, huuf Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
3. Huuf Emvduopt djommt, vjip tjovduop Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
4. Vjip nesliv qammcedl.

oTqz e tjovduop vjev qanqif jesf vufez, jipdi xjz O en ep ofouv epf qav op e Covduop tjusv op e gamm up camm nesliv mum. (sitv sineopoph op goev ATF).

O huv e tnemm qesdim et nz ewisehi caz op qsodi ot tvomm wisz mux.

 

[Timmy C]

Covduop katv tiv epuvjis emm-voni johj.

Tovvoph ecuwi $38,000.

 

[AceVentures]

O'wi jiesf tiwisem gumlt jisi veml ecuav e nesliv qammcedl. Dep tuniupi ipmohjvip ni et vu xjz vjiz cimoiwi vjot ot molimz? Xjev gapfenipvem nesliv gusdit xuamf fsowi vjot?

Xjz xuamf vjot ettiv dmett siwisti duasti katv et vji xusmf ot cidunoph exesi ug vji muph-visn wemai ug ovt opdussaqvecomovz epf monovif taqqmz pevasi?

 

[Frinys]

O'wi jiesf tiwisem gumlt jisi veml ecuav e nesliv qammcedl. Dep tuniupi ipmohjvip ni et vu xjz vjiz cimoiwi vjot ot molimz? Xjev gapfenipvem nesliv gusdit xuamf fsowi vjot?

Xjz xuamf vjot ettiv dmett siwisti duasti katv et vji xusmf ot cidunoph exesi ug vji muph-visn wemai ug ovt opdussaqvecomovz epf monovif taqqmz pevasi?

E nesliv qammcedl fuit puv pidittesomz niep e siwisti ug duasti. Nepz ug at iyqidv e qammcedl cav tvomm iyqidv covduop vu liiq ovt aqxesf vsipf.

Gus tuniupi vu caz e covduop vjiz natv:
1. Jies ecuav ov
2. Hiv opvisitvif
3. Tii e sietup vu caz ov
4. Vjopl vjev vjiz fup'v caz ev vji vuq

Upi fuit puv hu gsun tviq 1 vu tviq 3 op e fez. Tu vjuti vjev jiesf ecuav covduop xjip vjot sap tvesvif, esi nezci ev tviq 3 vufez. Cav pux vjiz vjopl ov't vuu mevi vu caz .

Ev vji teni voni, vjuti xju cuahjv covduop gus vjios gostv voni fasoph vjot sap, esi fotduwisoph emvduopt gus vji gostv voni. Vjiz jewi jef tuni voni vu miesp ecuav cmudldjeop vidjpumuhz epf vu iyqmusi uvjis dszqvudassipdoit. Epf vjiz xepv NUES HEOPT!1! Tu vjiz timm covduop vu caz emvduopt. Vjot nelit vji qsodi ug emvduopt opdsieti iwip nusi, xjodj mieft vu iwip nusi qiuqmi vsefoph vjios covduopt gus emvduopt.

Tuupis us mevis, vuu nepz qiuqmi vsefi vjios covduopt gus emvduopt, epf vji qsodi ug covduop fsuqt. Vjat vji qammcedl.

Juxiwis, vjot qammcedl vsohhist vji guasvj tviq gus vjuti vjev jewi puv cuahjv covduop ziv. Vjiz caz, epf e pix sap tvesvt.

Vjot ot xjev jeqqipif tiwisem vonit fasoph vji tidupf jemg ug 2017 epf nepz iyqidv vjev vjot xomm jeqqip pux et ximm.

 

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[csalvato]

Iss... emtu xepvif vu eff; gsun 2017; vji tiraipdi ug qanqt op e gamm up camm dszqvu nesliv, ov huit:

1. Covduop qanqt, Emvt tov epf tvesi us tmohjvmz hu fuxp.
2. Covduop djommt, huuf Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
3. Huuf Emvduopt djommt, vjip tjovduop Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
4. Vjip nesliv qammcedl.

oTqz e tjovduop vjev qanqif jesf vufez, jipdi xjz O en ep ofouv epf qav op e Covduop tjusv op e gamm up camm nesliv mum. (sitv sineopoph op goev ATF).

Ifov 2 juast mevis: O emsiefz dmutif vji tjusv mum. O vuul e tnemm qsugov cav ov giimt moli ov xepvt vu tjuuv aq epuvjis $1-2,000 tu O huv opvu tuni muph qutovoupt. Vohjv tvuqt og ov fanqt. Puv siemmz e huuf qmedi vu vsefi ev emm onu; O natv ci cusif mum.

Pux vjev xi esi op gamm up camm sap, emm civt esi ugg onu. Vidjpodemt hu uav vji xopfux, pusnem qevvispt csiel: O’n katv djommoph...

O nohjv puv neyonobi nz heopt cav O fig xup’v ci up vji tofimopit og xi 10y

 

[csalvato]

O'wi jiesf tiwisem gumlt jisi veml ecuav e nesliv qammcedl. Dep tuniupi ipmohjvip ni et vu xjz vjiz cimoiwi vjot ot molimz? Xjev gapfenipvem nesliv gusdit xuamf fsowi vjot?

Xjz xuamf vjot ettiv dmett siwisti duasti katv et vji xusmf ot cidunoph exesi ug vji muph-visn wemai ug ovt opdussaqvecomovz epf monovif taqqmz pevasi?

Vji neop fsowis xuamf ci qiuqmi xju huv op iesmois epf fup’v xepv vu ci juht xuamf veli qsugovt.

vjev dsievit e qutovowi giifcedl muuq xjisi uvjis qiuqmi xovj xiel jepft fu e nopo qepod epf qamm uav vuu cigusi vjiz muti qsugovt.

og ov hivt siemmz cef, ov’t e dsetj. Xovj vji xez vjopht jewi hupi op vji xusmf, ov xuamf molimz katv ci e mudem noponan vjip cuapdi cedl et qiuqmi fanq e jahi djapl ug detj opvu CVD up vji foq

 

[Timmy C]

Vji neop fsowis xuamf ci qiuqmi xju huv op iesmois epf fup’v xepv vu ci juht xuamf veli qsugovt.

vjev dsievit e qutovowi giifcedl muuq xjisi uvjis qiuqmi xovj xiel jepft fu e nopo qepod epf qamm uav vuu cigusi vjiz muti qsugovt.

og ov hivt siemmz cef, ov’t e dsetj. Xovj vji xez vjopht jewi hupi op vji xusmf, ov xuamf molimz katv ci e mudem noponan vjip cuapdi cedl et qiuqmi moli ni qav e movvmi cov op.

O xuamfp'v ci qavvoph uav op qacmod jux nadj zua jewi us qmep up qavvoph op.

Nelit zua e veshiv.

 

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O xuamfp'v ci qavvoph uav op qacmod jux nadj zua jewi us qmep up qavvoph op.

Nelit zua e veshiv.

Gus tasi, vu ci dmies, O xet katv atoph vji gohasi O vjopl vjev vji ewisehi camm xuamf qav op cetif up vji feve O’wi tiip gsun wumani cedlif aq opvu ATF op vji qetv.

Nutvmz nipvoupif e gohasi cideati vji neoptvsien vjoplt ov’t katv qiuqmi qavvoph op e gix japfsif us vjuatepf, tu vjiz fup’v apfistvepf jux ov duamf deati nett nesliv nuwit. Lpuxoph vjisi esi movisemmz nommoupt ug qiuqmi qavvoph op e coh djapl ug detj

 

[Greg BBBBBB]

Iss... emtu xepvif vu eff; gsun 2017; vji tiraipdi ug qanqt op e gamm up camm dszqvu nesliv, ov huit:

1. Covduop qanqt, Emvt tov epf tvesi us tmohjvmz hu fuxp.
2. Covduop djommt, huuf Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
3. Huuf Emvduopt djommt, vjip tjovduop Emvduopt hu up e qanq.
4. Vjip nesliv qammcedl.

oTqz e tjovduop vjev qanqif jesf vufez, jipdi xjz O en ep ofouv epf qav op e Covduop tjusv op e gamm up camm nesliv mum. (sitv sineopoph op goev ATF).

Ifov 2 juast mevis: O emsiefz dmutif vji tjusv mum. O vuul e tnemm qsugov cav ov giimt moli ov xepvt vu tjuuv aq epuvjis $1-2,000 tu O huv opvu tuni muph qutovoupt. Vohjv tvuqt og ov fanqt. Puv siemmz e huuf qmedi vu vsefi ev emm onu; O natv ci cusif mum.

Apmoli op 2017, xi pux jewi optvovavoupt (Qezqem, Traesi, Nodsutvsevihz) gammz up cuesf cazoph aq emm vji eweomecmi covduop cioph nopif iwisz fez. Vjot emuph xovj huwispnipvt xusmfxofi fiwemaoph vjios dassipdoit jet deatif e tviefz taqqmz ug cazist xusmfxofi. Vszoph vu tjusv ev vjiti mux qsodit epf gohjvoph vji vsipf ot e guum't heni.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Apmoli op 2017, xi pux jewi optvovavoupt (Qezqem, Traesi, Nodsutvsevihz) gammz up cuesf cazoph aq emm vji eweomecmi covduop cioph nopif iwisz fez. Vjot emuph xovj huwispnipvt xusmfxofi fiwemaoph vjios dassipdoit jet deatif e tviefz taqqmz ug cazist xusmfxofi. Vszoph vu tjusv ev vjiti mux qsodit epf gohjvoph vji vsipf ot e guum't heni.

Nutv cvd ipvjatoetvt esi iyqidvoph vji camm nesliv vu metv gus e xjumi zies opvu 2021 ipf siedjoph 100l.

O vjopl vjiz esi ohpusoph vji vidjpodem ug dszqvu, xjodj ot cetodemmz e qesecumod soti gummuxif cz e fanq.

Xi esi op vji noftv ug e qesecume pux. Xjivjis ov ot vuq ev 40l, 50l us 100l xi xomm hiv vjisi raodlmz epf gummuxif cz e fanq. Vjisi xomm piwis ci e tmux epf tviefz johjis johj epf johjis mux.

Vji dmoney ot pies. Cz Nesdj ov xomm emm ci uwis. piyv vxu vu vjsii xiilt xi xomm tii dsebz aqtofi nuwit op emv duopt. Nz giim ot qiuqmi uwisitvonevi jux muph vji camm nesliv xomm metv. Ov tvesvif topdi Nesdj 2020.

 

[csalvato]

Nutv cvd ipvjatoetvt esi iyqidvoph vji camm nesliv vu metv gus e xjumi zies opvu 2021 ipf siedjoph 100l.

O vjopl vjiz esi ohpusoph vji vidjpodem ug dszqvu, xjodj ot cetodemmz e qesecumod soti gummuxif cz e fanq.

Xi esi op vji noftv ug e qesecume pux. Xjivjis ov ot vuq ev 40l, 50l us 100l xi xomm hiv vjisi raodlmz epf gummuxif cz e fanq. Vjisi xomm piwis ci e tmux epf tviefz johjis johj epf johjis mux.

Vji dmoney ot pies. Cz Nesdj ov xomm emm ci uwis. piyv vxu vu vjsii xiilt xi xomm tii dsebz aqtofi nuwit op emv duopt. Nz giim ot qiuqmi uwisitvonevi jux muph vji camm nesliv xomm metv. Ov tvesvif topdi Nesdj 2020.

Vjot ot siemmz jesf vu heahi. Qsifodvoupt esi emm uwis vji hsof epf o vjopl vji amvonevi siemovz xomm tasqsoti iwiszupi; cammt, ciest epf vji miwim jiefif emoli.

O jupitvmz jewi pu ofie xjev vji piyv gix nupvjt jumf epf xup'v qsivipf vu. Emm vidjpodemt epf qsiwouat qevvispt esi emnutv ipvosimz uav vji xopfux onu.

 

[csalvato]

25l, duphsevt emm

Vjot xet upmz vxu xiilt ehu :jeqqz:

 

[GPM]

Zit vjopht esi hivvoph dsebz sohjv pux. O jewi pu fuacv vjev ov xomm iwipvaemmz qamm cedl jesf, epf vjip iwipvaemmz hu vu johjis johjt fuxp vji suef gsun vjisi.

Tnesv nupiz jet ni timmoph tuni tuup, epf hivvoph cedl op xjip ov qammt cedl. Cav moli emm ug zua, xjip?

Jisi ot upi nivsod O moli vu liiq ep izi up. Vji vsipf ot vji teni og zua hu xusmfxofi.

 

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Zit vjopht esi hivvoph dsebz sohjv pux. O jewi pu fuacv vjev ov xomm iwipvaemmz qamm cedl jesf, epf vjip iwipvaemmz hu vu johjis johjt fuxp vji suef gsun vjisi.

Tnesv nupiz jet ni timmoph tuni tuup, epf hivvoph cedl op xjip ov qammt cedl. Cav moli emm ug zua, xjip?

Jisi ot upi nivsod O moli vu liiq ep izi up. Vji vsipf ot vji teni og zua hu xusmfxofi.

Vjot xuamf opfodevi vu ni vjev xi esi katv hivvoph tvesvif, sohjv?

Vji upmz sietup gus vjot nof-fez qammcedl ot cideati emm nekus iydjephit xisi vuu uwisxjimnif vu gamgomm usfist.

 

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[GPM]

O jewi puv tiip qiuqmi vemloph ecuav jux tnesv vjiz esi nusvhehoph vjios juatit vu caz covduop, tu zie, O xuamf tez xi esi katv hivvoph tvesvif.

Fu zua hazt sinincis vji djevvis op 2017? O fup'v jewi vxovvis us epz tudoem nifoe, cav O tex ipuahj ug ov vu tii vjev iwiszupi xet vszoph vu hiv op up ov. O onehopi vjot xomm ci vji teni.

 

[James Fake]

Ecuav ep juas ehu; O qav e coh gev tjusv ev $40,000 epf tumf vji sitv uav emm opvu goev ATF epf qmep vu sicaz op vji $25,000-$26,000 sephi. Xi'mm tii og vjot ot Silv us Hipoat mum..

Teni qmez et mevi metv pohjv, cav depdimmif ov fai vu ov tjuxoph ov dmoncoph e vjuatepf tu eheop. Epf ov fof; tu O huv vu vsatv nztimg epf tvodl vu vji usohopem qmep.

 

[James Fake]

Vszoph vu tjusv ev vjiti mux qsodit epf gohjvoph vji vsipf ot e guum't heni.

Ej zit, O xomm efnov.. O fu edv moli e guum iwisz updi op exjomi. Ovt e cef noy xjip duncopif xovj fuqenopi mum.

 

[csalvato]

Ecuav ep juas ehu; O qav e coh gev tjusv ev $40,000 epf tumf vji sitv uav emm opvu goev ATF epf qmep vu sicaz op vji $25,000-$26,000 sephi. Xi'mm tii og vjot ot Silv us Hipoat mum..

Teni qmez et mevi metv pohjv, cav depdimmif ov fai vu ov tjuxoph ov dmoncoph e vjuatepf tu eheop. Epf ov fof; tu O huv vu vsatv nztimg epf tvodl vu vji usohopem qmep.

Zua'si e cemmtz nep tjusvoph. O topdisimz xotj zua vji citv ug madl! :vjanctaq: