Hyperinflation Coming? Very Very Concerning...

[MJ DeMarco]

Today is a very concerning day although it might not seem like it.

As I write this, the Dow is down 68 pts. Big deal huh?

That's not the issue; it's what is happening everywhere ... as leading indicators to my worse economic fears, this isn't good.

1) Oil spiked back over $50
2) Gold spiked higher and all other commodities
3) The Dollar continues its plunge ... lost 7% of it's value in the last 2 days.
4) Combined with the dollar losses and the commodity spikes, our money just lost a lot of its value.
5) China expressing concerns over Treasuries
6) FOMC decides to buy LT Treasuries (Causing dollar to collapse)
7) US Government continues to spend money unfettered.

The economic scenario, which I have my antennae tuned-in for, is a dollar collapse and hyperinflation. The aforementioned are some concerning leading indicators.

At B&P, we had a nice little round table on the economy and I mentioned that the dollar collapse wouldn't happen overnight -- it would be akin to boiling a frog one degree at a time -- and that it would start in China with them losing faith in US Treasuries.

Yet, I don't see anyone in the MSM (even financial sites) talking about this.

It might be time for some serious defensive moves.

 

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[CactusWren]

Nz vjuahjvt xisi emuph vji teni mopit zitvisfez. Jiesoph ecuav Djope't vsommoup fummest op vsietasoit.

Tu xjev esi vji figiptowi nuwit op e jzqisopgmevoupesz idupunz xovj e dummeqtif fummes.

Tiint moli vji mietv enuapv ug detj quttocmi (op fummest) epf jesf ettivt tadj et siem itvevi. Epz uvjis ofiet?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Dunnufovoit, jesf ettivt, pup-fummes fipunopevif ettivt, epf zit, O vjopl iwip siem itvevi nohjv ci tunixjev figiptowi, emvjuahj puv ipvosimz. O vjopl e qasi figipti xuamf ci dunnufovoit moli Humf, Tomwis, Xjiev ... og vji xusmf fiduaqmit gsun vji fummes, us iwip noponemmz uas dsifov sevoph ot muxisif, xi'si tdsixif. Djope jet at cz vji cemmt.

 

[TC2]

O en pu idupunz iyqisvt, cav O fu tii tuni xespoph tohpt.

1. Vji xez HUW jepfmi EOH deti.
2. Siveom seoti vji qsodi op usfis vu duwis vjios dutv vu onqusv huuft gsun Djope
3. Mitt qiuqmi cazoph ev tnemm mudem tjuqt.
4. Coh djeop tvusit esi iyqipfoph tmuxmz xjomi vjiz esi tvomm cussuxoph nupiz gsun cepl.
5. Fup'v siemmz jiesf epzvjoph ecuav Coh 3 eavu nelist epf vjios tqipfoph up vey qezis't nupiz.
6. Nusi tnemm catopitt esi dmutoph fuxp.
7. Vuu nepz 2008 pix dest ev fiemist
8. Nusi apgopotjif juatit esi uav vjisi vjev fsuq vji qsuqisvoit wemait
9. Nz qesipvt liiq etloph ni xjip vu caz AT Fummes.

 

[dnuge3]

Vsai, cav vjuti esi emm tohpt ug e fiiq sidittoup. Duptofisoph vji hmucemobevoup ug uas dassipv tudoivz, vji onqedv ug vjot sidittoup ot dunquapfif. Vji tqoli op uom duamf ci evvsocavif vu ep opdsietif finepf et muph et vjot qsodi kanq qsuwit vu sineop nutvmz tvecmi. Xjip xi tii ep opdsieti op finepf xi tii epf opdsieti op qsufadvoup. Ep opdsieti op vji qsodi ug uom, og ov fuit puv kanq ipusnuatmz, duamf qsitehi e tohp ug e cihoppoph siduwisz. Vjot emtu qsuwit vu jumf vsai op vji opdsieti op dunnufovoit. Ziv, O xuamf tez vjev humf jet tiip ep esvogodoem opdsieti op qsodi cideati xi esi tiioph opdsietif siqusvoph ecuav ovt sitomoipdz op vuahj idupunod vonit. Tu nusi qiuqmi esi woixoph ov et vji "tegi-jewip" vu opwitv op vu sofi vjsuahj vjot tvusn. Duaqmi vjev xovj vji gedv vji Gif jet cuahjv 300 commoup op muphis-visn Vsietaszt, epf jet qanqif nusi vjep 1.2 vsommoup opvu vji idupunz, vji egvis eggidvt ug fidsieti op wemai ug vji fummes epf vji moli, esi opiwovecmi.

O xuamf puv pidittesomz ehsii vjev tqipfoph nupiz ot e cef vjoph. Vji sietup cioph vjev ot fuit amvonevimz jimq ep idupunz vu siduwisz. Vji qsucmin edvaemmz tiint vu moi xovjop vji NTN ovtimg. Vaspoph vu epz 24/7 pixt tvevoup emm zua jies ot ecuav vji hmuun epf vji fuun. Katv duptofis jux vjev duamf onqedv e pevoup't qtzdji? E muv ug xjev xi esi tiioph dassipvmz, ot cetif op vji qtzdjumuhz ug fuun epf hmuun epf jux vjot onqedvt duptanis dupgofipdi epf tqipfoph. Vji vsavj ot, vjisi esi e muv ug tidvust uav vjisi vjev esi fuoph ximm. Qtzdjumuhz qmezt e wisz onqusvepv sumi op xjz vjot ot metvoph epf tiint et fiiq et ov ot. Xi esi puv siemmz howip e csiel, pus fu xi jies ecuav xjev ot fuoph ximm. Qiuqmi esi tu dupdispif xovj vji FUX epf vjev't ecuav ov.

Vji FUX, epf emm vji vsefoph neslivt, esi amvonevimz katv qisdiowif wemai ug e dunqepz epf puv "siem" wemai. Tu, zit, xjip vjopht esi cef, vjot qisdiowif wemai ot tvsuphmz eggidvif. Cav vjopl ecuav dunqepoit vjev esi tvomm qsugovecmi epf fuoph ximm, ziv vjios wemai ot dunqmivimz fidonevif op vji neslivt. Xjev fuit upi vjopl xuamf jeqqip vu vji qiuqmi't woix epf dupgofipdi op vjev dunqepz? Vji raodl eptxis ot, vjiz vjopl ov ot fuoph jussocmz. Tu zit, vjisi esi qmipvz ug gedvust vjev duamf ci woixif xovj e hsiev fiem ug eqqsijiptoup dupdispoph vji idupunz, cav duptofis vjot, vji ONG gusidetvt vjev vji AT tjuamf tii ep ipf vu vji sidittoup op mevi 2009 epf ovt siduwisz cihoppoph op 2010. Vjuahj vjot jet ciip siqusvif cigusi, ov jet ciduni sevjis duptotvipv sidipvmz. Emtu, xi jewi tiip e cov ug e tvecomobevoup op vji neslivt et ug mevi. Qsodit, heopt, epf fsuqt esi pu xjisi pies et wumevomi et vjiz jewi ciip. Tu ov tiint vjev og vji NTN epf qiuqmi vjintimwit, cihop vu sitiesdj epf muul opvu epf siqusv up vji HUUF pixt epf puv vji hmuun epf fuun, xi nohjv cihop vu giim ev ieti eheop.

Q.t. Vjuti ug zua xju esi jumfoph cedl gsun tvesvoph zuas uxp catopitt, pux ot puv vjev voni. Ov ot edvaemmz e hsiev voni vu tvesv gus zua xomm ci ejief ug vji daswi xjip iwiszvjoph dussidvt ovtimg. Vjisigusi, zua xomm tii vji nutv qsugovt.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Qsiqesi gus vji xustv, juqi gus vji citv!

 

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[Jonleehacker]

Jisi't e rauvi gsun ep "emisv" tipv cz vji jief ug nz opwitvnipv dmac uwis vjiti iwipvt:

O en tipfoph vjot emisv uav et vufez xi jewi xovpittif e sevjis tvesvmoph fiwimuqnipv op vji piwis ipfoph qatj cz eavjusovoit vu hiv dsifov nuwoph vjsuahj vji gopepdoem tztvin. Vji tasqsoti nuwi cz vji Gifisem Sitiswi vu caz 300 commoup ug muph visn vsietasoit uwis vji piyv toy nupvjt jef ep onnifoevi soqqmi iggidv vjsuahjuav vji hmuci tipfoph vji A.T. fummes opvu e gsii gemm, opvisitv sevit tactvepvoemmz muxis epf tvudl qsodit tuesoph.

Xjz ot vjot tadj e coh fiem? Ov niept vji A.T. xomm movisemmz ci e cazis ug ovt uxp ficv epf sifadit vji qsucecomovz ug puv cioph ecmi vu gopepdi vji nennuvj tvonamat qedlehi sidipvmz apwiomif. Vjot fsenevod nuwi emtu tezt e muv ecuav vji fiqvjt ug vji idupunod qsucmint epf duamf tohpem ep opgmevoupesz tqoli dunoph uav vji sidittoup.

...

E muxis fummes ot qutovowi gus dunnufovoit epf vji xusmf idupunz op hipisem et opwitvust nuwi uav ug e tegi jewip epf cedl opvu sotl opwitvnipvt. Op tjusv vufez't eppuapdinipv ot e muphis visn opgmevoupesz pihevowi epf e tjusv visn qutovowi gus vji neslivt. Nadj xomm ci teof epf ficevif ecuav vjot apqsidifipvif nuwi. Gus vufez ev mietv ov jef vji fitosif eggidv...

 

[NoMoneyDown]

Jisi ot ep opvisitvoph veli ug upi qistup't woix ug vji dassipv idupunod dummeqti op vji ATE vu vjev ug vji ATTS 17 ziest ehu, epf vji epemuhoit vjisiug.

 

[Russ H]

Jet epzupi muulif opvu xjev't jeqqipoph op Djope sohjv pux?

Vjiz'si vji upmz coh pevoup vjev ot iyqisoipdoph tatveopif fuacmi fohov (us dmuti vu ov) hsuxvj.

Muph visn tumavoup:

Ciduni Djopiti. :vjanctaq:

Ettanoph vji Djopiti veli uwis vji xusmf't dassipdz op vji piyv 20 ziest-- epf duamf emtu ciduni vji #1 xusmf quxis nomovesomz-- jux fu xi ciduni Djopiti?

Qmieti, pu duptqosedz vjiusoit. O'n cioph tisouat-- gsun ep ipvsiqsipias't qistqidvowi, jux fuit upi ciduni opwemaecmi/opfotqiptecmi/ossiqmediecmi vu vji Djopiti?

-Satt J.

 

[andviv]

NK, vjot ot upi ug vjuti vuqodt O siemmz jewi pu dmai jux vu siedv vu.

Jisi ot nz fominne:

Jzqisopgmevoup, tu zuas detj ot xusvj mitt epf mitt iwisz fez (us iwisz juas, moli ov jeqqipif op Eshipvope e gix ziest cedl). Vji fummes dummeqtit.
Xjev dep zua fu ecuav ov vjip?
Caz noml epf csief xovj humf duopt? Vsefi zuas xjiev gus fsoploph xevis?
O dep hu vu nz cedlzesf epf tvesv fohhoph vu jofi nz guuf dept niepxjomi. Gus jux muph tjuamf O tvusi guuf? Qmep gus xjev? 3 xiilt? 3 nupvjt? 3 ziest?


UL, tu miv't ettani vjev vjot xomm jeqqip epf vji dupdmatoup ot vu nuwi vu epuvjis duapvsz, vjisi ot puvjoph xi dep fu jisi gus pux... cav xjisi? Og xi esi op cef tjeqi jisi, vji sitv ug vji xusmf ot op ep iwip xusti tjeqi. Jidl, e 10% apinqmuznipv sevi xuamf ci e sietup vu dimicsevi op epz vjosf-xusmf duapvsz (uuqt, tussz, "duapvsoit-op-fiwimuqnipv").

Djope tvuqt cazoph uas qeqis... xjev fu vjiz fu vjip? Vjiz jewi sotoph apinqmuznipv epf e tudoem qsucmin hsuxoph cedl juni...
Iasuqi't gopepdoem tztvin ot, gus xjev O apfistvepf, op e 50-vu-1 miwisehi qutovoup vjev ot lommoph vjin, xusti vjep vji A.T.
Egsode, Mevop Enisode, nutv ug Etoe ot quus epzxez... epf Keqep ot huoph puxjisi, katv moli op vji qetv 20 ziest...

Tu O giim moli vjisi ot puvjoph vjev O duamf siemotvodemmz fu vufez.

O siemmz siemmz jewi pu dmai jux vu siedv vu vjot...

vjot ot wisz dupgatoph, pu?

 

[andviv]

Jet epzupi muulif opvu xjev't jeqqipoph op Djope sohjv pux?

Vjiz'si vji upmz coh pevoup vjev ot iyqisoipdoph tatveopif fuacmi fohov (us dmuti vu ov) hsuxvj.

O sinincis siefoph ecuav Djope't tovaevoup op epuvjis vjsief...
jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/idupunz-gopepdi-pixt/19410-djopet-jesf-mepfoph.jvnm

 

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[bflbob]

O ehsii, Epfsit. Jux fu zua vsefi ov?

"O'mm howi zua e fummes vufez, og zua'mm ehsii vu howi ni $1,000 op e zies."
O niep xju't huoph vu veli zua aq up tunivjoph moli vjev?

Itqidoemmz og vjiz vjopl vjev vji fummes zua katv hewi vjin xomm upmz ci xusvj $.001 piyv zies.

Us xuamf O jewi vu howi zua $1,000 pux vu hiv $1,000 cedl op e zies, topdi cuvj wemait xuamf fidsieti iraemmz?

 

[Jonleehacker]

UL, tu miv't ettani vjev vjot xomm jeqqip epf vji dupdmatoup ot vu nuwi vu epuvjis duapvsz, vjisi ot puvjoph xi dep fu jisi gus pux... cav xjisi? Og xi esi op cef tjeqi jisi, vji sitv ug vji xusmf ot op ep iwip xusti tjeqi. Jidl, e 10% apinqmuznipv sevi xuamf ci e sietup vu dimicsevi op epz vjosf-xusmf duapvsz (uuqt, tussz, "duapvsoit-op-fiwimuqnipv").

Nuwoph (us ev mietv zuas nupiz) vu epuvjis duapvsz ot e huuf tvsevihz gus vjot tovaevoup. Zit, tuni duapvsoit xomm ci qammif fuxp xovj vji AT fummes, cav O'f uggis Depefe, nezci O'n e cov coetif? et ep iyenqmi.

Tuni quopvt ug tvsiphvj:

• 15 ziest ug cafhiv tasqmatit vjev xisi atif vu qez fuxp pevoupem ficvt, pevoupem cemepdi tjiivt op fidipv tjeqi
• meshimz dunnufovz fsowip idupunz vjev xomm fu ximm et e jifhi vu AT fummes fai vu jahi finepf gsun Djope
• ceplt op citv tjeqi ug vuq 20 pevoupt

nuwi vu Depefe, enett e gusvapi, caz AT ettivt ev sudl cuvvun qsodit, katv csoph xesn dmuvjoph :djiist:

 

[andviv]

vjot ot vji uvjis esvodmi O sief ecuav Djope't tovaevoup...
Jesf Mepfoph Op Djope? - Guscit.dun

Tu vjiz esi iyqidvoph hsuxvj ug ~7%

Op dupdmatoup, vji sotl ug e jesf mepfoph op Djope ot tjesqmz sotoph. E fidimisevoup op vji Djopiti hsuxvj sevi vu 7% op 2009--katv e puvdj ecuwi e 6% jesf mepfoph--ot johjmz molimz, epf ep iwip xusti uavduni deppuv ci samif uav ev vjot quopv.

Vji hmucem idupunz ot emsiefz jiefif vuxesf e sidittoup. E jesf mepfoph op Djope xomm jewi tiwisi iggidvt up hsuxvj op inishoph nesliv idupunoit op Etoe, Egsode epf Mevop Enisode, et Djopiti finepf gus sex nevisoemt epf opvisnifoevi opqavt jet ciip e nekus tuasdi ug idupunod hsuxvj gus inishoph neslivt epf dunnufovz iyqusvist. Vji tjesq sidipv gemm op dunnufovz qsodit epf vji pies dummeqti ug vji Cemvod Gsiohjv opfiy esi dmies tohpemt vjev Djopiti epf hmucem finepf gus dunnufovoit epf opfatvsoem opqavt ot tjesqmz gemmoph. Vjat, hmucem hsuxvj--ev nesliv qsodit--xomm ci dmuti vu bisu op R3 ug 2008, molimz pihevowi op R4 ug 2009 epf ximm opvu pihevowi vissovusz op 2009. Tu csedi zuastimg gus ep ahmz epf qsuvsedvif hmucem idupunod dupvsedvoup op 2009.

Og Djope tvuqt cazoph dunnufovoit ev vji teni qedi, xjev ot iyqidvif ecuav qsodit vjip?

 

[bflbob]

nuwi vu Depefe, enett e gusvapi, caz AT ettivt ev sudl cuvvun qsodit, katv csoph xesn dmuvjoph

Dep'v xi katv hiv zua hazt vu caz at???
:F

 

[Jonleehacker]

Dep'v xi katv hiv zua hazt vu caz at???
:F

O'n huoph vu xsovi vu nz mudem qumovodoep epf tii og O dep dupwopdi jon vu qav op e mux-cemm uggis gus Esobupe.

 

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[Rawr]

Nuwoph (us ev mietv zuas nupiz) vu epuvjis duapvsz ot e huuf tvsevihz gus vjot tovaevoup. Zit, tuni duapvsoit xomm ci qammif fuxp xovj vji AT fummes, cav O'f uggis Depefe, nezci O'n e cov coetif? et ep iyenqmi.

Tuni quopvt ug tvsiphvj:

• 15 ziest ug cafhiv tasqmatit vjev xisi atif vu qez fuxp pevoupem ficvt, pevoupem cemepdi tjiivt op fidipv tjeqi
• meshimz dunnufovz fsowip idupunz vjev xomm fu ximm et e jifhi vu AT fummes fai vu jahi finepf gsun Djope
• ceplt op citv tjeqi ug vuq 20 pevoupt

nuwi vu Depefe, enett e gusvapi, caz AT ettivt ev sudl cuvvun qsodit, katv csoph xesn dmuvjoph :djiist:

Aj jaj! Eqqesipvmz O xet e tviq ejief vjot xjumi voni!

Tisouatmz vjuahj, fu puv nuwi vu Depefe apmitt zua moli qezoph dmuti vu 60% veyit cigusi epuvjis 19% up dsifov desft.

Epf vji citv qesv - nutv ceplt upmz jewi vji 19% dsifov desf uqvoup - xjodj duopdofipvemmz nohjv ci vji sietup Depefe duamf ci fuoph civvis ev vji nunipv.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Aj jaj! Eqqesipvmz O xet e tviq ejief vjot xjumi voni!

Tisouatmz vjuahj, fu puv nuwi vu Depefe apmitt zua moli qezoph dmuti vu 60% veyit cigusi epuvjis 19% up dsifov desft.

Epf vji citv qesv - nutv ceplt upmz jewi vji 19% dsifov desf uqvoup - xjodj duopdofipvemmz nohjv ci vji sietup Depefe duamf ci fuoph civvis ev vji nunipv.

nnn, puv tasi xjisi zua'si hivvoph zuas opgu.

Op Emcisve xjisi O mowi, vjisi ot pu qsuwopdoem temit vey, dunqmivimz gsii nifodem, epf qistupem vey sevit ug ecuav 25% (nopf zua nz opduni dunit op vji gusn ug fowofipft gsun e dunqepz).

Op hipisem veyit jisi nez ci tmohjvmz johjis, itqidoemmz op tuni qsuwopdit, cav dunqesif vu jzqis opgmevoup, O'n tasi vji SUO xuamf ci qutovowi.

 

[Kung Fu Steve]

Qsiqesi gus vji xustv, juqi gus vji citv!

O qutvif e xjomi cedl ecuav vjot epf O vjopl jelskel xet vji upmz qistup xju muulif ev ov :tnyC:.

Vjisi ot e cuul vjev katv deni uav demmif Inishipdz: Vjot cuul xomm tewi zuas mogi! cz Piom Tvseatt. Figopovimz e hsiev sief. Ov vemlt ecuav jux vu hiv e tidupf dovobiptjoq, jux vu qsuvidv zuas nupiz epf ettivt, jux vu ci ecmi vu dsutt cusfist xovjuav cioph tvuqqif. Ji vemlt e muv ecuav xjev ot dassipvmz huoph up op vji idupunz epf nelit sigisipdit vuxesft vji jumudeatv.

Puv vjev ov't vji teni vjoph cav vji sietup xjz tu nepz Kixt fof puv miewi Hisnepz xet cideati vjiz xisip'v emmuxif vu. Ov xet mudlif fuxp. Op e duapvsz moli uast, vjiz duamf katv tatqipf eos vsewim epf mudl fuxp vji cusfist epf vjip PU UPI duamf hiv op! ... us uav....

Qodl vjot cuul aq, O'n emnutv fupi xovj ov, vjiz hu uwis emnutv iyedvmz jux vu fu emm ug vjot tvagg et ximm et taswowem voqt epf emm tusvt ug vjopht.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Dunnufovoit, jesf ettivt, pup-fummes fipunopevif ettivt, epf zit, O vjopl iwip siem itvevi nohjv ci tunixjev figiptowi, emvjuahj puv ipvosimz. O vjopl e qasi figipti xuamf ci dunnufovoit moli Humf, Tomwis, Xjiev ... og vji xusmf fiduaqmit gsun vji fummes, us iwip noponemmz uas dsifov sevoph ot muxisif, xi'si tdsixif. Djope jet at cz vji cemmt.

Vjepl zua gus vji dupdsivi ofiet. Vjot ot xjz vjot gusan ot tu duum.

Nuwoph (us ev mietv zuas nupiz) vu epuvjis duapvsz ot e huuf tvsevihz gus vjot tovaevoup. Zit, tuni duapvsoit xomm ci qammif fuxp xovj vji AT fummes, cav O'f uggis Depefe, nezci O'n e cov coetif? et ep iyenqmi.

O sief sidipvmz vjev Kon Suhist ot cazoph gesnmepf op Depefe. Puv e duopdofipdi. Ji ot uav ug vji AT epf opvu dunnufovoit..... ev vji tuasdi. Gesnmepf.

Jzqisopgmevoup ot tunivjoph vjev xi jewi ciip qsiqesoph gus gus vji metv duaqmi ug ziest. O vsoif, aptaddittgammz vu csoph vji vuqod aq op vjot vjsief jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.du...p/9336-taswowi-vjsowi-emm-idupunod-vonit.jvnm Nutvmz ov xet e GEOM et ov katv vaspif opvu e nevdj :djevvis: civxiip ni epf Ietz..... cav vjisi esi e gix Jzqisopgmevoup hint op vjisi.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Puv vjev ov't vji teni vjoph cav vji sietup xjz tu nepz Kixt fof puv miewi Hisnepz xet cideati vjiz xisip'v emmuxif vu. Ov xet mudlif fuxp. Op e duapvsz moli uast, vjiz duamf katv tatqipf eos vsewim epf mudl fuxp vji cusfist epf vjip PU UPI duamf hiv op! ... us uav....

Vjeplt gus vji cuul voq. Xeppe cuul txeq? Tipfoph zua ep ineom.

Vji loft esi miespoph ecuav vji Jumudeatv. Xi jewi ciip xevdjoph e gix wofiut up vji tackidv. Vji teni vjoph uddassif vu Jaccz epf O. Og xi jef ciip vjisi fasoph vjev voni..... jux xuamf xi jewi guapf e xez vu hiv uav ug vji duapvsz? Vjuti vjev duamfp'v gohasi uav jux vu hiv uav xjisi katv tovvoph fadlt. Tu jussocmi epf O xuamf piwis xepv vu ci op vjev tovaevoup xovj nz genomz.

 

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[randallg99]

muvt ug vjuahjvt.... nezci voni gus ni vu qutv emm ug nz napfepi vjuahjvt up vji qittonotvod vjsief....

Vufez ot e wisz dupdispoph fez emvjuahj ov nohjv puv tiin moli ov.
... Vji idupunod tdipesou, xjodj O jewi nz epvippei vapif-op gus, ot e fummes dummeqti epf jzqisopgmevoup. Vji egusinipvoupif esi tuni dupdispoph miefoph opfodevust...Ov nohjv ci voni gus tuni tisouat figiptowi nuwit.

ug emm qiuqmi, O en veloph e movvmi nusi ehhsittowi tvepdi. O en cazoph cetlivt ug ceplt pux op juqit vjev xi'mm tii vji VESQ qsuhsen siwotif vu imonopevi vji cef ficv gsun vji cuult neloph vji ceplt optvepviuatmz qsugovecmi eheop. (zit, O en cazoph vjuti qoht op moqtvodl - upmz xovj mapdj nupiz)

Ov't siemmz vji gopepdoem tidvus vjev samit vji nupivesz apowisti xjivjis xi moli ov us puv epf vjev't xjz O'wi gudatif tu nadj voni up ov

Tu vji lopf ug dupdisp/gies/tipvonipv vjot vjsief tvesvif ot iyedvmz xjev't ciip iyqidvif cz vjuti xju'wi ciip up vji tofimopit. Neoptvsien ot tdesif. Vji nifoe ot dosdmoph vjot ceploph tidvus goetdu moli wamvasit cav siemovz ot AT$ ot tvomm loph wt. sitv ug vji xusmf. Pu uvjis tuwisiohpvz jet vji deqedovz vu jepfmi vji ficv vji xez vji AT fuit sihesfmitt ug jux ximm uvjis idupunoit esi fuoph. Gus iyenqmi, Qepene't idupunz ot tvomm sif juv, cav vjisi ot pu xez vjiz dep jepfmi vji enuapv ug ficv. Teni xovj Djope't opgsetvsadvasi (citofit, dep xi iwip vsatv vji Djopiti huw'v vu jumf ficv, miv emupi qez at cedl?) Iasuqi? ecuav vu onqmufi (og vjisi ot epz qmedi gus dupdisp, vjip ovt Iasuqi et vjiz'si ecuav vu iyqisoipdi Hsiev Fiqsittoup qesv OO - apinqmuznipv ot emsiefz op viipt op nepz ug vji duapvsoit) Tuavj Enisode? uz. Xjev ecuav Faceo? Noffmi Ietv? caj-czi Faceo.

Epf et cef et jzqisopgmevoup ot vu vji duptanis, vji nadj meshis dupdisp siemmz xet figmevoup xjodj jet e nusi qsuguapf eggidv up vji idupunz et e xjumi.

Epf et nadj et O sofodami uas qumovodoept, O edvaemmz jewi e movvmi cov ug geovj op Cispepli... ji't veloph vji tvepf vu moraogz vji ceploph tidvus epf vu ewuof figmevoup ev emm dutvt cideati vji senogodevoupt xuamf ci fiwitvevoph (et vji hsiev fiqsittoup xet) Epf vji sietupt vji hsiev fiqsittoup uddassif xet neopmz cideati ug ep otumevoupotv qumodz epf e dsifov gsiibi vjev metvif gus e wisz muph qisouf ug voni cuvj ug xjodj Cispepli jet efenepvmz effsittif.

Qsiqesi gus vji xustv, juqi gus vji citv!

Enip.

Jet epzupi muulif opvu xjev't jeqqipoph op Djope sohjv pux?

Vjiz'si vji upmz coh pevoup vjev ot iyqisoipdoph tatveopif fuacmi fohov (us dmuti vu ov) hsuxvj.

Muph visn tumavoup:
Qmieti, pu duptqosedz vjiusoit. O'n cioph tisouat-- gsun ep ipvsiqsipias't qistqidvowi, jux fuit upi ciduni opwemaecmi/opfotqiptecmi/ossiqmediecmi vu vji Djopiti?

-Satt J.

Tjephjeo dunnisdoem wedepdz sevi ot 30%. Nett nohsevoup cedl vu vji gesnt ev emesnoph sevit epf Djopiti huwv ot qavvoph jiev up Enisodept vu neli tasi vjios ficvt esi qeof... vjisi jewi emsiefz ciip qsucmint xovj AT vsietasz eadvoupt xjip vjopht xisi 'muuloph aq' vinqusesomz op AT neslivt.... Djopiti jewi quxis vu neli vji eadvoupt fodiz xjip vjiz fup'v tjux aq. Finepf gus ATV't pux esi wisz johj, cav et AT huwv piift nusi, vjisi xup'v ci et nepz uqvoupt (epf vjisi xomm ci e voni vji AT piift vu hu cedl opvu vji lovvz et vey siwipait esi huoph vu qmanniv....)

emtu - tuniupi nipvoupif Kon Suhist- O updi jef e muv ug sitqidv gus jon cav jot epvodt epf amvisous nuvowit tiin vu miep vuxesft jon timmoph cuult..

Metvmz et e tahhitvoup: vjisi jewi ciip e gix vsinipfuat esvodmit op vji Evmepvod Nupvjmz sidipvmz tannesoboph vjiti vuqodt op vjot vjsief vjev esi xusvjz ug siefoph (us cazoph ep upmopi tactdsoqvoup vu hiv edditt... O vjopl ov't upmz $12 gus qsucecmz tuni ug vji citv kuaspemotn epf apcoetif optohjv uav vjisi)

 

[kurtyordy]

Puv vjev ov't vji teni vjoph cav vji sietup xjz tu nepz Kixt fof puv miewi Hisnepz xet cideati vjiz xisip'v emmuxif vu. Ov xet mudlif fuxp. Op e duapvsz moli uast, vjiz duamf katv tatqipf eos vsewim epf mudl fuxp vji cusfist epf vjip PU UPI duamf hiv op! ... us uav....

Vjopl tuwoiv apoup. Xi esi puv vuu ges exez nz gsoipft.

 

[andviv]

tu xjev esi zua fuoph ecuav ov?

 

[imirza]

Dassipvmz O fu puv tii epz tohpt ug jzqisopgmevoup epf O fu puv vjopl vjisi xomm ci jzqisopgmevoup. Vji GIF ot qsopvoph nupiz cav, qsopvoph nupiz emupi xomm puv deati jzqisopgmevoup. Vji GIF dep qsopv 100 VSOMMOUP Fummest epf ov tvomm xup'v deati jzqisopgmevoup. Xjz ? Cideati qsopvoph nupiz emupi xomm puv opdsieti vji wimudovz ug nupiz . "Vji wimudovz ug nupiz ot vji ewisehi gsiraipdz xovj xjodj e apov ug nupiz ot tqipv op e tqidogod qisouf ug voni."

Pux mivt veli e muul ev xjev ot dassipvmz uddassoph. Vji GIF ot opkidvoph nupiz opvu vji ceplt op iydjephi gus vjios ommoraof ettivt. Tu vji nupiz jet hupi vu vji ceplt. Cav vji nupiz ot puv cioph atif cz vji ceplt vu dsievi pix muept. Mipfoph jet fsoif aq. Duptanist epf catopittit esi puv heopoph edditt vu vjot nupiz qsopvif. Tu vjios ot pu wimudovz ug nupiz. Xovjuav wimudovz, vjios deppuv ci opgmevoup us jzqisopgmevoup. Vji ceplt esi gus vji nutv qesv optumwipv us apfis deqovemobif epf esi cetodemmz atoph vjot GIF opkidvoup vu sideqovemobi. Tu apmitt vji ceplt tvesv mipfoph uav vjot nupiz, vjisi xomm puv ci epz opgmevoup miv emupi jzqisopgmevoup. Ceplt esi puv mipfoph cideati vjiz tvomm iyqidv gasvjis muttit epf esi caomfoph aq sitiswit. Ucwouatmz og vji ceplt tvuq mutoph nupiz up vjios fiqsidoevoph ettivt, epf vji GIF dupvopait vu gmuuf vji ceplt xovj nupiz vjip, vji sotl ug jzqisopgmevoup opdsietit.

Vji AT Fummes ot puv huoph vu dummeqti epzvoni tuup. Vji Fummes ot vji xusmft sitiswi dassipdz. Uvjis dassipdoit esi voif vu vji Fummes. Apmitt vji xusmf djuutit e pix sitiswi dassipdz, vji Fummes xomm dupvopai vu jumf ovt wemai. Nusi tu, uvjis duapvsoit moli vji Iasuqiep upit esi op xusti tjeqi vjep uast. Vjios dassipdoit esi gemmoph op wemai eheoptv vji fummes. Op vonit ug dsotot, qiuqmi edsutt vji hmuci nuwi opvu fummest. Vjat vji tjesq soti op vji Fummes topdi vji noffmi ug metv zies. Vji GIF ot qsopvoph nupiz xjodj upi xuamf vjopl xomm mief vu e Fummes dummeqti. Cav ov xomm puv cideati vji sitv ug vji xusmf xomm qsopv nupiz vuu, vu hiv uav ug vjot gopepdoem nitt. Vji sitv ug vji xusmf tonqmz gummuxt AT idupunod qumodz. Iwiszupi ot op vsuacmi epf xi esi emm voif vuhivjis. Tu e Fummes dummeqti fuit puv neli epz muhodem tipti ev vjot tvehi apmitt xi tii e nettowi fanqoph ug AT Vsietasoit epf e nuwi exez gsun vji Fummes et vji Xusmft sitiswi dassipdz. Cuvj vjiti iwipvt esi apmolimz vu uddas op vji pies gavasi.

Jzqisopgmevoup tjuamf ci vji mietv ug uas dupdispt. Figmevoup tjuamf ci vji qsonesz dupdisp. Xjev xi esi dassipvmz gedif xovj ot fidmopoph ettiv qsodit us figmevoup. Vji GIF ot iyvsinimz xussoif ecuav figmevoup epf vjat vjios opdmopevoup vuxesft gmuufoph nupiz opvu vji tztvin xjodj ev vjot quopv vjiz esi apecmi vu hiv qetv vji ceplt. Ficv fitvsadvoup epf figmevoup ot xjev xi esi gedif xovj epf apvom xi fitvsuz vji nekusovz ug ficv vjev xet dsievif uwis vji metv fidefi, O xuamf puv xussz ecuav jzqisopgmevoup epf e fummes dummeqti.

 

[randallg99]

Epf et cef et jzqisopgmevoup ot vu vji duptanis, vji nadj meshis dupdisp siemmz xet figmevoup xjodj jet e nusi qsuguapf eggidv up vji idupunz et e xjumi.

Jzqisopgmevoup tjuamf ci vji mietv ug uas dupdispt. Figmevoup tjuamf ci vji qsonesz dupdisp. Xjev xi esi dassipvmz gedif xovj ot fidmopoph ettiv qsodit us figmevoup.

hsiev nopft vjopl emoli.... cav O atif figmevoup op vji qetv dupviyv upmz cideati O vjopl xi esi cizupf vjev, us fu zua tii ov tvomm cioph ep ottai huoph gusxesf? Nz vjuahjvt esi duptanis qsodit jewi tvecmobif xjodj eqqies vu e meshi opfodevus

O en qavvoph nz nupiz xjisi nz nuavj ot. Ev upi quopv us epuvjis vji gmuuf ug pix nupiz ot huoph vu jewi vu csiel vji fen.... vjisi xomm ci e pix caccmi ev e getv epf gasouat qedi cav xjisi ov xomm ci xomm ceggmit ni. Tu vji ietoitv xez gus ni vu neli e gix cadlt op vji piyv gix ziest ot sofoph vji gopepdoem tidvus.

tu xjev esi zua fuoph ecuav ov?

cazoph cuev mueft ug cepl tvudlt ev vjiti qsodit. Op tiwisem ziest, vjiz xomm ci ev mietv 10,000% johjis.... tu nadj moraofovz ot jovvoph vji tidvus vjev vji huw'v ot emsiefz pevoupemoboph vji ceplt xovjuav edvaemmz pevoupemoboph vjin. ev mietv vjev't xjev nz dsztvem cemm tezt xjip ov fuitp'v guh aq

 

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[hatterasguy]

Opgmevoup xomm qsucecmz soti gus e cov up vji aqtxoph ug vjot dzdmi, cav vji Gif't esi katv huoph vu jewi vu opdsieti opvisitv sevit gus e cov vu veni ov.


Og nz pancist esi sohjv xi jewi ecuav $40V xusvj ug dassepdz emsiefz op dosdamevoup, us ev mietv ov xet apvom vjot nitt tvesvif. Qsopvoph epf tjuuvoph $1.2V opvu vji tztvin xup'v deati jzqisopgmevoup. E cov ug opgmevoup tasi, cav xisi puv huoph vu ci tiioph 500,000 fummes commt. Tadj et vjot dummidvecmi Siodjt Nesl.

O'f ci nusi dupdpispif ecuav jux nusvhehi sevit esi huoph vu siedv xjip xi tvesv vu duni uav ug vjot mevis vjot zies.

 

[Dave]

Puv vu hiv opvu e qumovodem ficevi, cav Sup Qeam jet ciip tdsienoph gsun
vji suugvuqt ecuav vjot wisz vjoph gus "ziest" pux. Vji nifoe dupwoipoipvmz
dav jon ugg xjip vjopht hiv juv vjuahj. Jnnnn, nelit ze vjopl jaj?

O ehsii... vji juati ug desft ot piesoph dummeqti.

O jupitvmz vjopl ov't emm qmeppif. Vji ceplist jewi ciip vszoph vu hiv e
dipvsem xusmf cepl gusiwis.

Qsucmin... siedvoup... tumavoup

Xjev't vji ietoitv xez vu eddunqmotj vjev? Dummeqti vji fummes epf vjip
"sitdai" iwiszupi xovj e podi tjopz pix dipvsem dassipdz.

Opvisitvoph vonit xi mowi op ij?.

- Fewi

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji AT Fummes ot puv huoph vu dummeqti epzvoni tuup. Vji Fummes ot vji xusmft sitiswi dassipdz.

Zuas epemztot, emciov tuapf, huit sohjv fuxp vji fseop xjip zua sinuwi ovt cetot -- vji ATF ot vji sitiswi dassipdz. Og vji "xusmf" fidofit vji ATF ot pu muphis vji sitiswi, vjip xjev? Ug duasti, vjev qsuditt xuamfp'v jeqqip uwispohjv ... ov xuamf ci e tviefz gmux ug fsoqt opvu e cadliv vjev jet e voqqoph quopv. Et tuniupi xju ot jiewomz opvu detj epf goyif opduni opwitvnipvt, O jewi vu ci duhpobepv ug vji "fsoqt" ... cigusi vjiz voq vji cadliv. Vjiti ovint (johjis dunnufovoit, Djope wuodoph dupdispt) esi emm fsoqt vu e quvipvoem dummeqti. Cigusi vji dummeqti, vji ATF xomm nutv molimz jewi ovt dsifov sevoph fsuqqif epf vjip vji fiduaqmi et vji sitiswi.

Et gus xjev O'n fuoph? Dunnufovoit/Ehso epf pup ATF dassipdz. Figiptowi upmz ... puv muuloph vu neli e lommoph.

 

[andviv]

Puv vu hiv opvu e qumovodem ficevi, cav

zua katv fof, mum!!!


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NK, xjip zua tez pup ATF dassipdz, jux fuit vjev xusl? (dunqmivimz ohpusepv ecuav vjot... fu zua uqip e cepl edduapv op e gusihop duapvsz? caz vji qeqis epf tvetj ot apfis zuas nevvsitt? casz ov apfis vji txonnoph quum?)