The Entrepreneur Forum | Financial Freedom | Starting a Business | Motivation | Money | Success

Welcome to the only entrepreneur forum dedicated to building life-changing wealth.

Build a Fastlane business. Earn real financial freedom. Join free.

Join over 80,000 entrepreneurs who have rejected the paradigm of mediocrity and said "NO!" to underpaid jobs, ascetic frugality, and suffocating savings rituals— learn how to build a Fastlane business that pays both freedom and lifestyle affluence.

Free registration at the forum removes this block.

Dressing For Success... Stop looking like a fool.

Topics relating to managing people and relationships

Niptuck MD

plutocrat-in-training
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
164%
Aug 31, 2016
1,421
2,330
NORWAY - POLAND - WEST EUROPE
Real quality pays. Trust me. With some tailor work you can find hidden gems from yesteryear and trust me it will go a long way. I had several gentleman from Mumbai to Abu Dhabi to Kuala lampur note several pieces of my wardrobe. It makes for conversation and also exudes some sort of respect ultimately.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Brian Suh

Silver Contributor
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
118%
May 19, 2018
479
566
I don't know. I feel like focusing on how you look takes away too much time from the important stuff. Just put on a simple t shirt and a pair of shorts and get out the door and get to WORK.
 

Kak

Legendary Contributor
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
492%
Jan 23, 2011
9,678
47,664
34
Texas
I don't know. I feel like focusing on how you look takes away too much time from the important stuff. Just put on a simple t shirt and a pair of shorts and get out the door and get to WORK.

Shut it down folks. No need for additional commentary. Brian here has cracked the code none of us were able to arrive at. Bravo. Groundbreaking. Featured post.

I'm just thankful he took his valuable time away from the "important stuff" to enlighten us all.
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Brian Suh

Silver Contributor
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
118%
May 19, 2018
479
566
Shut it down folks. No need for additional commentary. Brian here has cracked the code none of us were able to arrive at. Bravo. Groundbreaking. Featured post.

I'm just thankful he took his valuable time away from the "important stuff" to enlighten us all.
i mean this is the fastlane forum. Isn't whole point to be as inefficient as possible? I am not discounting the importance of dress but look at bill gates and mark zuckerberg. They literally dont give a F*ck and just throw on a pair of khakis and a t shirt.
 

Brian Suh

Silver Contributor
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
118%
May 19, 2018
479
566
i mean this is the fastlane forum. Isn't whole point to be as inefficient as possible? I am not discounting the importance of dress but look at bill gates and mark zuckerberg. They literally dont give a f*ck and just throw on a pair of khakis and a t shirt.
The reason i am saying this is because most people I know who dress "flashy" are usually broke losers
 

Kak

Legendary Contributor
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
492%
Jan 23, 2011
9,678
47,664
34
Texas
i mean this is the fastlane forum. Isn't whole point to be as inefficient as possible? I am not discounting the importance of dress but look at bill gates and mark zuckerberg. They literally dont give a f*ck and just throw on a pair of khakis and a t shirt.

Did you read the thread?
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Vigilante

Legendary Contributor
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
596%
Oct 31, 2011
11,116
66,265
Gulf Coast
nope. It's 8 pages long lol. Just giving my opinion. I guess I spoke to soon? Oops.

I'm sure if you just throw on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt you'll be Mark Zuckerberg.

Sorry this thread is so long. We will try to keep threads to a page or two in the future to make sure you can actually read them in between video games.
 

Paleo

Bronze Contributor
Read Fastlane!
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
184%
Mar 3, 2014
76
140
61
I was once skeptical that there was any significant difference between cheaper men's clothing and the high end makers that would justify the large difference in price.

But having worn everything from low end department store lines, to middle market , to the elite brands such as Brioni, Canali. Barbera, Corneliani, Zegna, Canterelli (yes, I like Italian) the better Burberry, I can say that there is a HUGE difference is quality and wearability that does justify buying at least a few of these pieces.

The fabric is so good. Lighter. Softer. Drapes better. Breathes better Has great "hand", a tailor's concept that is hard to explain unless you've experienced it.

A fused jacket (Jos Banks, department store) is stiff. A canvassed jacket molds to and moves with the wearer. The fabric, design, cutting and sewing means that the clothes not only look great , they are so much more comfortable to wear. A cheap suit is uncomfortable; a good suit is not.

If you are thinking you can't afford these clothes, I will give you one word: Ebay. Search around and you can find authentic items from reputable sellers. Also, if you have the time and are in the right areas- thrift stores. I'm a bit of a treasure hunter and have found some great scores in thrift stores. I can often pick out just by site a quality piece on the rack and touching the fabric confirms it. Some of my favorite thrift store finds had no tags at all, or just the tag of the men's store that sold it, but were great quality.

I will admit, though, that a dream of mine is to have a couple of suits made by Savile row tailors.....
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Brian Suh

Silver Contributor
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
118%
May 19, 2018
479
566
I'm sure if you just throw on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt you'll be Mark Zuckerberg.

Sorry this thread is so long. We will try to keep threads to a page or two in the future to make sure you can actually read them in between video games.
Jeez didn't know this forum was so full of butt hurt guys who take life so seriously. I can go back and forth with these childish arguments but I am going to end it right here.
 

Brian Suh

Silver Contributor
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
118%
May 19, 2018
479
566
I'm sure if you just throw on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt you'll be Mark Zuckerberg.

Sorry this thread is so long. We will try to keep threads to a page or two in the future to make sure you can actually read them in between video games.
You know nothing about me. Stop making assumptions. This one post gave me all I need to know on how simple minded you seem to be. Again, I was just giving my opinion on this matter as the post was dressing for success stop looking like a fool. Sure dressing nice is good and you should definetly do it but don't let it take away from what's actually important. In life, all that matters is execution and if you are good enough. If you have those two, you can wear a dirty chuck e cheese t shirt and jeans with paint stains and beat the guy who is wearing a $1000 armani suit who is an idiot.
 

Vigilante

Legendary Contributor
Staff member
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
596%
Oct 31, 2011
11,116
66,265
Gulf Coast
Jeez didn't know this forum was so full of butt hurt guys who take life so seriously. I can go back and forth with these childish arguments but I am going to end it right here.

::4 minutes later::

You know nothing about me. Stop making assumptions. This one post gave me all I need to know on how simple minded you seem to be. Again, I was just giving my opinion on this matter as the post was dressing for success stop looking like a fool. Sure dressing nice is good and you should definetly do it but don't let it take away from what's actually important. In life, all that matters is execution and if you are good enough. If you have those two, you can wear a dirty chuck e cheese t shirt and jeans with paint stains and beat the guy who is wearing a $1000 armani suit who is an idiot.


53452573.jpg
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

sparechange

Platinum Contributor
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
161%
Nov 11, 2016
2,804
4,502
Canada (Vancouver)
this is the best way to dress imo
 

Attachments

  • ferrari-guy-1.jpg
    ferrari-guy-1.jpg
    84.1 KB · Views: 36

Kak

Legendary Contributor
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
492%
Jan 23, 2011
9,678
47,664
34
Texas
nope. It's 8 pages long lol. Just giving my opinion. I guess I spoke to soon? Oops.

Yep you did. For the 16th time in this thread... Flashy isn't the point. Competence and professionalism is... But you wouldn't know that because you didn't read the thread and decided comment from the peanut gallery about t-shirts and efficiency.

You and @sparechange have added precisely nothing to this discussion.
 
G

Guest58302

Guest
I don't know. I feel like focusing on how you look takes away too much time from the important stuff. Just put on a simple t shirt and a pair of shorts and get out the door and get to WORK.
nope. It's 8 pages long lol. Just giving my opinion. I guess I spoke to soon? Oops.
Page 2:
The way I see it is that @Kak plays the game on a different level. Do you need to dress for success if you're a solopreneur working on your e-commerce store? Not really as you don't interact with people face to face so there's no point in buying a nice suit if you aren't going to wear it anyway. If you're fine with running a small business, I don't think that Kak has a problem with that.

Should you pay more attention to your clothes when you negotiate with millionaires or billionaires who can potentially sign a 7-figure contract with you? I think so. It's a completely different world where every single detail matters.

Not impress, or to attract attention... Just look the part.

So politicians are corrupt... So... They control a sh*t load of money.

People that want to actually make money. You can't go through life bitching about conformists, talking about it the way things ”ought” to be, and expect to make anything of yourself. Like it or not, the world we live in is the way it is. If you show up to a business meeting with me and you look like you just rolled out of bed in the morning, the deal isn't happening.

Being the best, most professional version of yourself is in YOUR best interest.

Once again... Not to impress, just to look the part. Impressing and standing out are not the goal. Exuding professionalism is. The more capable you come across, the better the deals you can swing.

You SHOULD ABSOLUTELY CARE about the opinions of the people you are trying to make a deal with. This notion of ”f*ck them” is ridiculous. Once again. It is in YOUR best interest. You're not doing this for them.

This is the last time I defend my position on why it's important. IT IS and those that don't agree are wrong. You cool cats that can't be bothered to look halfway decent because it's beneath you... Good luck... I hope you play the lotto because you can't make real money in a vacuum.
There's your answer.
Jeez didn't know this forum was so full of butt hurt guys who take life so seriously. I can go back and forth with these childish arguments but I am going to end it right here.

I don't think that anyone here is butt hurt... If you take a look above your post, there seemed to be some productive and informative discussion going on. You kind of broke the flow of the conversation there with a post that was refuted on Page 2.

Next time in a short thread just try to make sure to read all the posts prior to posting. (At least skim over). It's proper forum etiquette and shows some respect to the other posters in the thread.

------

Unfortunately, I don't have much to contribute to this thread as dress-code where I am in my Fastlane journey is not yet important. But I appreciate the time and value that @Kak is providing to those who need it.

Also, that story about @Vigilante 's dad's old business partner gave me a chuckle. That was a good one.
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

jmusic

Meep.
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
181%
Mar 4, 2015
144
260
44

Just recently got my first pair of AE shoes: first quality 5th avenues in dark chili. I've had dress shoes before of course but these just exude quality.

For those who don't know the fit is just as important with shoes as the rest of your outfit. I wear size 14 in athletic shoes and went to a Nordstrom's to try these on. The 14 was too long but it was still too narrow. Turns out I need a 13E.

One of the things you should get when you're paying for nicer shoes is the better fit. AE makes 9 different widths!!!

Men’s Shoe Size Chart: Getting The Right Fit

Another way shoes can really amp up your style is when you're in "casual mode."

final_2.jpeg

Sperry Topsiders are super comfortable, can go with shorts or jeans (roll the legs 2-3 times to create some separation) or even khaki pants. Always wear sockless or with no-show socks. If you want you could even throw a sports jacket onto the above.

Imagine the "bumping into a client" scenario as described earlier in the thread (I'll look for it when I get a chance...) but this time on a Saturday. Would you be negatively judged for not wearing a suit on Saturday? No.

What about looking like a hoodrat?
 
Last edited:

Niptuck MD

plutocrat-in-training
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
164%
Aug 31, 2016
1,421
2,330
NORWAY - POLAND - WEST EUROPE
Jeez didn't know this forum was so full of butt hurt guys who take life so seriously. I can go back and forth with these childish arguments but I am going to end it right here.

dude shut the F*ck up
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

The Abundant Man

Gold Contributor
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
150%
Jul 3, 2018
1,428
2,140

Kak

Legendary Contributor
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
492%
Jan 23, 2011
9,678
47,664
34
Texas
Bump.

I put the summer linen stuff in the back of the closet, even though I'm in the South.

I'm now wearing darker colors and wool again for sport coats. They fit damn nice too because of my keto diet.
 

DustinH

Bronze Contributor
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
162%
May 24, 2017
253
411
Nashville
Bump.

I put the summer linen stuff in the back of the closet, even though I'm in the South.

I'm now wearing darker colors and wool again for sport coats. They fit damn nice too because of my keto diet.

Yeah it's been so hot during September that I'm still using my linen sport coat and lighter colors.

Thinking about buying a new blue suit. Not navy but a lighter shade of blue than navy. I see a lot of guys with the blue suit, brown shoes, brown belt, white shirt look. I think it's a good look for me. Anybody bought a good one lately? Where did you get it?
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Kak

Legendary Contributor
FASTLANE INSIDER
EPIC CONTRIBUTOR
Read Rat-Race Escape!
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
492%
Jan 23, 2011
9,678
47,664
34
Texas
Yeah it's been so hot during September that I'm still using my linen sport coat and lighter colors.

Thinking about buying a new blue suit. Not navy but a lighter shade of blue than navy. I see a lot of guys with the blue suit, brown shoes, brown belt, white shirt look. I think it's a good look for me. Anybody bought a good one lately? Where did you get it?

Nice pick!

Try brooks brothers. Most of their stuff is pretty sharp and affordable assuming you don't feel the need to have some crazy custom made job. I personally don't.
 

Bryan James

Bronze Contributor
Read Unscripted!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
182%
Jul 1, 2018
201
366
Texas, USA
I have a really bad habit of hating to dress up. I only do when I'm meeting clients or prospects, and even then it's relatively casual. Otherwise I usually look like I'm on my way to/back from the beach.
 

Sheens

Silver Contributor
FASTLANE INSIDER
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Summit Attendee
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
240%
Jan 13, 2018
299
717
USA
Hey guys! You might stop reading this as soon as you hear the name I will mention as it is incredibly well known in the female shopping industry, but the Lululemon ABC Pant Classic for men (or a similar style) may be an awesome addition to your collection if you haven't already tried them. They fit looser and could be a great meeting, everyday, or casual look. However, this is not to replace instances where a suit is the better choice.
 
Dislike ads? Remove them and support the forum: Subscribe to Fastlane Insiders.

Xeon

All Cars Kneel Before Pagani.
Read Fastlane!
Read Unscripted!
Speedway Pass
User Power
Value/Post Ratio
191%
Sep 3, 2017
2,427
4,628
Singapore
D

Deleted5250X

Guest
36724106-E869-4064-ABBA-5D40254AF4C3.jpeg After reading this thread I decided to get more professional clothing.

I went to JC Penny tonight to look for some.

None of the Blue Blazers with Gold Buttons previously mentioned were left. Do these look better with a pattern or simply solid?

I did find another blazer, however it might be more towards the casual side. What do you think. Is it to casual for business?

I’ll checkout Jos A Bank or Men’s Warehouse this weekend.

When you say Golf clothes, what is that considered. Golf pants and a polo?
 

Post New Topic

Please SEARCH before posting.
Please select the BEST category.

Post new topic

Guest post submissions offered HERE.

Latest Posts

New Topics

Fastlane Insiders

View the forum AD FREE.
Private, unindexed content
Detailed process/execution threads
Ideas needing execution, more!

Join Fastlane Insiders.

Top