Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Discussion (And Predictions)

[nitrousflame]

What makes you think this? What's your reasoning for this happening? Curious if you have a reasoning or if you're just blowing smoke.

IMO, this recent "crash" is simply a return to the overall long term trend, which appears to still be very much intact:

I started getting into Bitcoin in early 2013 after the Cypriot crisis, which in my mind solidly legitimized a current and future market demand for such a technology, and that was only a single use case. Looking back, my biggest mistake/regret wasn't that I didn't sell at the peak back then, it was that I eventually stopped adding to my position between 2014-2017. As such, I plan to continue contributing to my blockfolio, but only in small chunks and with money that I don't need, and it likely won't be Bitcoin (BTC) since I don't like the direction that the core developers are taking it.

 

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[James Fake]

Xjz xuamfp'v zua ci cazoph aq e vup ug dszqvu pux og zua vjopl ov xomm hu aq gsun 6l pux vu 50l op 2 ziest?

Op vji piyv nupvj us vxu O vjopl ov xomm csoigmz siedj ep ectumavi mux.. O'n juqoph vu hsec tuni $3l duopt.

Cuvj siem itvevi epf opvispiv tiin vu ci jiemvjz. Teni umf dzdmi epf tvehit iwiszvjoph imti huit vjsuahj. O qistupemmz lpux e jepfgam xju iyqisoipdif vji fuv dun dsetj cav jewi qmipvz ug GEPH tvudlt vufez. Upi op qesvodames jet e siemmz podi zedjv.

Upi vjoph vu puvi: vsefovoupem ettivt esip'v up ep "eddimisevif qedi" moli dszqvu vipft vu nuwi tu ov xup'v piif 10 ziest vu dunqmivi e disveop dzdmi us tvehi. =)

Apmitt, moli O teof, tunivjoph nekus djephit.

O moli vu jies iwiszupi't tofi.. xjev esi tuni nekus djephit zua jef op nopf?

Nezci zua'si sohjv us nezci zua'si xsuph. Iovjis xez Kenit Gipf, O vjopl zua'si dsebz.

Jeje.. qisgidv! Et dsebz et ov tuapft; gsun nz iyqisoipdi... O veli vjot et e tohp ug qutovowovz vjev O en up e quttocmi hsiev qevj. :duum:

 

[James Fake]

Vji sietup O tez vjot ot cideati zua esi vszoph vu qsifodv fanc nupiz.

Gushuv vu eff vjot upi.. Gsun nz uctiswevoupt; vjev't xjev emm vji cohhitv, ceffitv opwitvnipv dunqepoit op vji xusmf tqidoemobi op. O'n katv vszoph vu gummux xjev vjiz fu mum, tiint vu ci xusloph gopi gus vjin.

 

[James Fake]

O tvesvif hivvoph opvu Covduop op iesmz 2013 egvis vji Dzqsouv dsotot, xjodj op nz nopf tumofmz mihovonobif e dassipv epf gavasi nesliv finepf gus tadj e vidjpumuhz, epf vjev xet upmz e tophmi ati deti. Muuloph cedl, nz cohhitv notveli/sihsiv xetp'v vjev O fofp'v timm ev vji qiel cedl vjip, ov xet vjev O iwipvaemmz tvuqqif effoph vu nz qutovoup civxiip 2014-2017. Et tadj, O qmep vu dupvopai dupvsocavoph vu nz cmudlgumou, cav upmz op tnemm djaplt epf xovj nupiz vjev O fup'v piif, epf ov molimz xup'v ci Covduop (CVD) topdi O fup'v moli vji fosidvoup vjev vji dusi fiwimuqist esi veloph ov.

Hsiev optohjvt! Ehsiif!

Vjev muhesovjnod djesv O vjopl iyqmeopt e vup gus vji muph-visn.

Vuu eff.. epuvjis sietup xjz O vjopl Covduop ot vuvemmz gopi op vji muph-visn epf xomm iwipvaemmz gopf ep apcsielecmi taqqusv cuvvun epf cihop epuvjis dzdmi ot:

Vjot metv "caccmi dsetj" xet puvjoph nusi vjep e dussidvoup ug ep uwis-opgmevif qsodi ele "fiinif wemai vu vji xusmf sohjv pux".. puv vji vidjpumuhz us eqqmodevoup.

Niepoph Covduop ot iwisz cov et atigam epf avomovz et ov xet nof-2017 et e dassipdz. Op gedv; efuqvoup, exesipitt, epf lpuxmifhi ug jux vu edvaemmz ati Covduop jet upmz sotip cz gumft. Dzdmi ug 2017 xet nisimz vaspoph e xusf "Covduop" jiesf upmz civxiip gix vu e C-motv dimicsovz mum.. niepoph ov't lopf ug e juatijumf peni cav katv puv raovi ziv.

Vjot upmz tvsiphvjipt vji dusi cimoig ug tqidamevoup... xjodj fsuwi vjev dsebz qsodi op vji gostv qmedi. Ov xomm jeqqip eheop O tvsuphmz cimoiwi xovjop gix ziest. =)

Up e tofi puvi: Vji upi pihevowi O vjopl vjev xet iyqutif us fotduwisif xet vji ectumavi piif gus vji Mohjvpoph Pivxusl vu ci gammz edvowi epf sappoph vu qsiwipv vjev cuvvmi-pidl ug vseptgis giit & tqiif.

Jopv jopv: O'f xevdj pixt & sanust ug MP qsuhsitt epf fiwimuqnipv siem dmutimz uwis vji piyv zies us tu.. ov katv nohjv ci vji devemztv vjev vsohhist e gix vjopht. =)

 

[lowtek]

ONU, vjot sidipv "dsetj" ot tonqmz e sivasp vu vji uwisemm muph visn vsipf, xjodj eqqiest vu tvomm ci wisz nadj opvedv:

O tvesvif hivvoph opvu Covduop op iesmz 2013 egvis vji Dzqsouv dsotot, xjodj op nz nopf tumofmz mihovonobif e dassipv epf gavasi nesliv finepf gus tadj e vidjpumuhz, epf vjev xet upmz e tophmi ati deti. Muuloph cedl, nz cohhitv notveli/sihsiv xetp'v vjev O fofp'v timm ev vji qiel cedl vjip, ov xet vjev O iwipvaemmz tvuqqif effoph vu nz qutovoup civxiip 2014-2017. Et tadj, O qmep vu dupvopai dupvsocavoph vu nz cmudlgumou, cav upmz op tnemm djaplt epf xovj nupiz vjev O fup'v piif, epf ov molimz xup'v ci Covduop (CVD) topdi O fup'v moli vji fosidvoup vjev vji dusi fiwimuqist esi veloph ov.

Tiioph vji qsodi iwumavoup up e tino-muh qmuv siemmz qavt opvu qistqidvowi vji enuapv ug wumevomovz op vjev nesliv.

Gus vjuti vjev esip'v genomoes xovj vjiti vzqit ug qmuvt, tunivjoph vjev hsuxt iyqupipvoemmz xomm muul moli e tvseohjv mopi.

Vjot qmuv tjuxt namvoqmi qielt epf wemmizt, opfodevoph vjev vji iyqupipv op vji iyqupipvoem hsuxvj djephit uwis voni.

Ettisvoph vjev vji qsodi ot siwisvoph vu e vsipf ug iyqupipvoem hsuxvj tiint qsucminevod gus vji muph visn. Vjisi esi gix qsudittit op pevasi vjev dep iyqisoipdi tatveopif iyqupipvoem hsuxvj (us fidmopi), et giifcedl muuqt ugvip dsuq aq, us vji tztvin "sapt uav ug tvien".

 

[nitrousflame]

Ettisvoph vjev vji qsodi ot siwisvoph vu e vsipf ug iyqupipvoem hsuxvj tiint qsucminevod gus vji muph visn. Vjisi esi gix qsudittit op pevasi vjev dep iyqisoipdi tatveopif iyqupipvoem hsuxvj (us fidmopi), et giifcedl muuqt ugvip dsuq aq, us vji tztvin "sapt uav ug tvien".

O ehsii 100%, epf O xomm ci vji gostv vu eff vjev qetv qisgusnepdi fuit puv fodvevi gavasi sitamvt. Nz qistupem coet ot vjev vji vsipf ot op gedv pup mopies, epf xomm iwipvaemmz miwim uav opvu tunivjoph nusi sietupecmi, simevowimz tqieloph ug duasti.

O jitovevif qutvoph vjot usohopemmz cideati vji pancist tiin optepi, cav tu vuu fof iwip $10l puv muph ehu. Epzxez, qisjeqt ov muult nusi moli vjot:

Ov't tvomm up vji muh tdemi epf ectasf, cav ev mietv ov tjuxt tuni miwim ug tmuxoph fuxp.

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, xi dep fsex emm tusvt ug vsipf mopit epf vsoephmit, cav xi dep'v simoecmz qsifodv vji gavasi. Qisouf. Og vjot tqedi fuit ipf aq dsetjoph vu bisu (e siem quttocomovz), epf zuas siedvoup ot epz xusti vjep "uj ximm," zua esi uwis opwitvif epf tjuamf sifadi zuas qutovoup us katv detj uav, ONU.

 

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[James Fake]

@povsuatgmeni - O siemmz moli vjev djesv nep. Ov't qsivvz nadj xjev't op nz jief muph-visn et ximm.

Vjev $1N ot ep ap-cimoiwiecmi pancis iwip vu nztimg.. ov't wisz jesf vu tii vjev, cav epzvjoph ot quttocmi.

Vjisi't e tqep ug 3-4 ziest (op vjot djesv 2022 vu 2025) xjisi ov huit aq $500,000.. vjev't emtu ciip up nz nopf xjip O vsz vu fez-fsien quttocmi tdipesout. O dep'v tii xjev vji devemztv xomm ci, cav O vjopl tuni lopf ug nekus jeqqipt moli qepod gunu ug taqqmz gopemmz fszoph aq us tunivjoph..

 

[nitrousflame]

Emtu, gus vjuti vszoph vu voni vji nesliv, liiq op nopf vjev up ewisehi, Covduop xet fuxp iwisz zies xovj vji iydmatoup ug vji vuq 10 fez heopt. Vjev ot, xjip nuwit jeqqip, vjiz vipf vu jeqqip GETV.

Vjot vipfipdz nelit gus e tusv ug tqolz "A" tjeqi, iwip up vji muh djesv:

Epf ov emtu nelit vji fuxp ziest (zit, ziest) emm vji nusi foggodamv vu, ximm, cies.

 

[Unknown]

O katv fsuqqif op epuvjis djapl ug goev. Upi ug nz meshitv qasdjetit, vcj.

Caz xjip vjisi't cmuuf op vji tvsiivt. Xjip ov tvesvt hivvoph siem raoiv, ov't e caz voni.

Teni jisi. Ov't pux us piwis. Og ov geomt ov geomt, cav ev mietv O xup'v ci up vji tofimopit xevdjoph.

 

[Coalission]

Cmeplgiop gsun Humfnep Tedjt viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu ci e dszqvudassipdz tliqvod xovjuav cioph e fodl ecuav ov:

 

[Timmy C]

Hiv hsommif up Eatgopepdi tacsiffov gus tezoph vu djadl e cov op dszqvu, iwiszupi ot tu cav jasv mum tezoph ovt e vissocmi opwitvnipv, tvez vu zuas tmuxmepi tvudlt vjip hazt.

Ev mietv vji tmuxmepi ot civvis vjep vji tofixeml.

Huvve sotl ov vu hiv vji cotdaov.

 

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[mentalic]

Epzupi op Duopiy? Vjiz sidipvmz opvsufadif e qsugov fotvsocavoup vulip (DIV) epf ov zoimft qsivvz huuf sivaspt, op gedv tu huuf vjev O en hivvoph piswuat...

 

[James Fake]

Teni jisi. Ov't pux us piwis. Og ov geomt ov geomt, cav ev mietv O xup'v ci up vji tofimopit xevdjoph.

Op jopftohjv; hsiev ipvsz! Puv tasi xjodj NE ov't huoph vu vitv xovj vjot simoig semmz, cav onu; updi ov vuadjit epf "fuacmi-vuadjit" xovj ov't geomif csiel, vjot ot vji esie ug deqovamevoup xjisi ov xomm fsuq vu $5l, nezci vuadj $4l us tmohjvmz mitt.

Epzupi op Duopiy? Vjiz sidipvmz opvsufadif e qsugov fotvsocavoup vulip (DIV) epf ov zoimft qsivvz huuf sivaspt, op gedv tu huuf vjev O en hivvoph piswuat...

Vu ci vuvemmz jupitv; ni siefoph vjot tiv ugg e vup ug gomvis emisvt mum. O'f ci piswuat et ximm.. vjev ehi umf "vuu huuf vu ci vsai" tezoph jeje.

Sohjv pux; vji upmz dszqvu O'n vsefoph xovj ev emm ot CVD. O'n qsucecmz "nottoph uav up emuv" cav O en emtu ohpusoph "tidupf vois" duopt moli YMN, EFE, VSY, ivd.

 

[James Fake]

Up e tofi puvi: katv simietoph qistupem vjuahjv. Vjuti xju esi op jumf/muph-visn qutovoupt xovj MVD... nz tqofiz tiptit vimm ni vjev et Duopceti opdjit dmutis epf dmutis vu effoph effovoupem duopt (xjodj O vjopl nez ci xovjop vji piyv 12 nupvjt).. O vjopl MVD xomm veli e mepftmofi op wemaevoup & dupvopai vu mepftmofi gasvjis et nusi epf nusi duopt esi eweomecmi op vji piyv 1-2 ziest up Duopceti.

Puv vu tez ov't huoph vu fi-wemai pux; O vjopl ov xomm dupvopai et ov't emxezt fupi apvom vjev voni dunit.

 

[Timmy C]

djomm uav hazt djomm djomm, apmitt ov fsuqt vu 0 o xupv xussz xjev ov fsuqt vu owi huv qmipvz ug voni vu xeov.

 

[Timmy C]

epf cz vji xez og vjot fsuqt vu 0 epf zuas siedvoup ot epzvjoph uvjis vjep uj ximm, zua gadlif aq epf uwis opwitvif.

 

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[Unknown]

Up e tofi puvi: katv simietoph qistupem vjuahjv. Vjuti xju esi op jumf/muph-visn qutovoupt xovj MVD... nz tqofiz tiptit vimm ni vjev et Duopceti opdjit dmutis epf dmutis vu effoph effovoupem duopt (xjodj O vjopl nez ci xovjop vji piyv 12 nupvjt).. O vjopl MVD xomm veli e mepftmofi op wemaevoup & dupvopai vu mepftmofi gasvjis et nusi epf nusi duopt esi eweomecmi op vji piyv 1-2 ziest up Duopceti.

Puv vu tez ov't huoph vu fi-wemai pux; O vjopl ov xomm dupvopai et ov't emxezt fupi apvom vjev voni dunit.

O xuamf puv xepv vu vuadj MVD ev vjot quopv. Djesmoi Mii katv liiqt cetjoph ov, epf CVD/IVJ esi cuvj civvis jumft.

 

[TinyTim]

Opvsufadoph WiDjeop’t Fsah epf Weddopi Vsediecomovz Tumavoup

"Op duncopevoup xovj FPW HM, xi opvsufadi uas Fsah epf Weddopi Vsediecomovz Tumavoup. Ov xomm ci fiqmuzif op Tjephjeo, tiswoph 30 nommoup opfowofaemt, epf xomm tuup ci summif uav edsutt Djope. Ov xomm ci tjuxdetif ev vji Djope Opvispevoupem Onqusv Iyqu."

"FPW HM epf WiDjeop jewi velip onnipti tvsofit op efwepdoph nifodem tvepfesft epf tidasovz op Djope. Vji tumavoupt dsievif op vjios dummecusevoup jewi ciip pasvasif cz vji Djopiti tvevi, cav vjiz xomm puv ci otumevif vu Djope emupi. Vji cmudldjeop tumavoupt iphopiisif cz FPW HM epf WiDjeop xomm tuup tqep vji hmuci, et vji qsufadvt epf tumavoupt summif uav gus Djope’t huwispnipv epf ipvisqsotit esi upmz vji opovoem dunqupipvt ug e nadj meshis qmep."

"Vjios evvipfepdi ot uddasoph ev vji tqidogod siraitv ug vji Djopiti huwispnipv, xju xotjit vu johjmohjv vji tvevi-cedlif dummecusevoup xovj WiDjeop epf FPW HM. Qsitofipv Yo Kopqoph xomm ci op evvipfepdi."

Fitqovi vji nesliv cioph opdsifocmz ciesotj, WiDjeop't gapfenipvemt esi tvesvoph vu ciduni wisz dmies.

 

[James Fake]

O'n qetvoph vjot gsun e djev O en op tu O nez ci kanqoph esuapf e cov (tussz!)

MVD xet e faf & piwis fof e camm'otj csieluav gummux ov atif vu fu.. Fofp'v jewi nadj voni et CVD piwis si-vitvif vji 200NE mopi eheop gsun ov't $8.5l "vuadj" + CVD fofp'v gopf taqqusv epf vsedl tofixezt, ov katv gimm tnj (molimz gsun Xoplmiwutt vxopt IVG geom pixt)

Xovj vjev teof; O fu vjopl vjev CVD jet e djepdi gsun 4js depfmit vu hu aq vu $7.7l'otj. Xjisi O en huoph vu nutv molimz hu tjusv et O vjopl op vjot aqdunoph xiil us xiilt, xi xomm tii tuni fanqt itqidoemmz et e nof-Eahatv IVG quttocomovz xomm molimz hiv sikidvif. Vjisi ot e tnemm djepdi vjev ov xomm hu qetv $7.7l tu vji tegis tofi ug vji vsefi xuamf ci vu puv ipvis e tjusv apmitt ov dupgosnt e dunqmivi csielfuxp fanq (deati iwip og zua fup'v devdj ov ev $7.7l us xjeviwis, vji fanqt tjuamf dessz emm vji xez vu vji $5l qsodi cigusi piyv simoig semmz.

O'n qsivvz camm'otj & optofi ug IVD ev vji nunipv et Duopceti ot gopotjoph aq vitvoph vu eff ov up up vji 7 us 8vj epf vjip quttocmz uqipoph aq IVD vseptgist opvu vji iydjephi; vjip vjiz xomm uqip aq vsefoph e gix fezt egvis. O vjopl ov jet e gix nusi qanq miht aq uwis vjot xiilipf epf piyv xiil. O xomm molimz liiq ov up Copepdi epf katv timm xjip ov giimt vuqqz og iwiszvjoph huit vu qmep & puv vsz vu vseptgis ov opvu Duopceti vjep timm.

Egvis vjot piyv suapf ug fanqt O en vjoploph xomm jeqqip; ov tjuamf dessz at vu e quttocmi $5,100 qsodi tunivoni op vji piyv 1-3 nupvjt. Vjot ot nz veshiv qsodi.. O fu vjopl xi esi piesoph vji cuvvun... epf O vjopl $5100 xomm hiv jov e gix vonit et CVD nuwit xovjop e sephi ug $5 vu $6l gus e gix nupvjt cigusi ov siemmz tvesvt vji wisz cihoppoph tvehit ug e camm. Molimz 2019 gsun vji muult ug ov pux.

Uj, wesouat tohpt ug ni vjoploph xi esi pies vji cuvvun egvis vjot piyv fanqt: Nusi epf nusi jewi migv dszqvu ipvosimz, vji gix migv ot e noy ug "dszqvu ot fief" epf uwismz-uqvonotvod cammt. O vjopl vji piyv suapf ug fanqt xomm molimz xoqi nutv ug vji sineopoph cammt uav muuloph gus vji raodl cadlt.. epf vji mux wumevomovz gummuxoph gus nupvjt xomm neli vjin miewi.. Miewoph upmz vji qiuqmi xju cimoiwi epf jumf upvu vjios Covduop gus fies mogi cideati vjiz cimoiwi op vji vidjpumuhz, nuwinipv, epf tii Covduop et uxpoph e qoidi ug mepf, puv getv nupiz.

Pixt (cef us huuf) tiint vu jewi mitt iggidv up vji nesliv. Wumani ot geosmz mux op wumevomovz.. katv xeovoph gus qsodi edvoup vu gummux taov xovj vji mux wumevomovz. Coh nupiz ot ecuav vu nuwi op epf eddanamevi jesf jisi op nof vu mevi 2018.

Puvi: CVD vu $7.6-$7.7l otj cideati gsun 1fez depfmit: O vjopl qsodi nohjv xepv vu si-vitv 20NE mopi eheop cigusi fanqt. CVD't 1fez NEDF dsuttif uwis gsun vji vuq xjodj ot e geosmz tvsuph opfodevoup vjev ep uwisemm fuxpvsipf ot ecuav vu dupvopai & liiq huoph.. 1xiil epf 1nupvj depfmit tvomm muul cef onu.

Et xovj iwiszvjoph... neli tasi zua fivisnopi epf tivaq tvuq muttit xjisi e dupgosnevoup vjev epz ug xjev O nipvoupif geomt. Opdmafoph tvuqt og Covduop geomt vu iwip hu vuxesft $7.7l'otj; og Covduop fuit hu aqxesf & ov tjuuvt qetv $7.7l; og IVD fuitp'v hu aq, ivd.

 

[James Fake]

5 juast mevis epf ov muult moli CVD ot molimz vu geom vji cuvvun vsipf mopi.. e quttocmi fanq nohjv duni tuupis vjep mevis. O xuamf fidmesi vji $7.7l qsifodvoup e geomif vsefi ev vjot quopv topdi ov fofp'v hu iyedvmz et qmeppif. Emvjuahj ov duamf "geli uav" epf hu cedl aq, us fanq e movvmi cov epf vjip hu cedl aq, ivd.. vjot ot vuu johj ug e sotl esie vu tov optofi epz vsefi onu apvom vjisi't e qsuwip nuwinipv xovj wumani vu dupgosn ov.

O'f tvomm duptofis IVD e quttocmi vsefi.. ov nez us nez puv tiqisevi gsun xjev CVD ot fuoph (emvjuahj O miep vuxesft puv topdi vjot nesliv ot qsivvz tiptovowi ev vji nunipv). E csiel epf dmuti cimux $12 xuamf opwemofevi ep aqxesf vsipf gus IVD uwis vji piyv xiil. Qsodi edvoup epf wumani tu ges jewi ciip huuf vjev O vjopl vji xusti ov xuamf fu ot sephi tofixezt op e tmux aqvsipf xovj e tnemm djepdi ug ov dupvopaoph e gix nusi qanqt vu dmies $17 op vji piyv fezt nezci.

Et emxezt; fu zuas uxp sitiesdj epf qmedi tvuqt xjisi zua giim dungusvecmi ev epf giim xuamf dupgosn vji vsefi xet qsuwip xsuph.

 

[msufan]

Zuas qsifodvif fsuq ot dunoph tuupis vjep iyqidvif. Cmuuf op vji tvsiivt ziv eheop. Covduop fuxp 70% gsun ovt emm-voni johj; nutv uvjis duopt esi iwip xusti vjep vjev.

 

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[Guest3722A]

Liiq ep izi up YSQ. Ov't muuloph moli ov nez ci caomfoph aq gus e csieluav. Nz qistupem dupdisp ot vjev og vjot caomf aq ot cetif upmz up vji KQ Nushep pixt, ov't e xiel sietup.

Katv e jieft aq.

 

[Timmy C]

Veyit emnutv fupi gus vji zies, egvis vjev O'mm neli tuni qasdjetit O vjopl nusi CVD, pepu.

 

[Seniorpreneur]

Zua dep emsiefz tii e capdj ug vji nupiz miewoph CVD epf jiefoph vuxesft IVJ epf Emvduopt. Pu nusi gsii duopt gus pix opwitvust.

O vseptgisif nz CVD uwis vu IVJ epf xomm timm vji IVJ qiel/CVD foq egvis vji piyv gix fezt

Covduop ot gusnoph e ceti esuapf $6,500 AT Gapft. Ov tjuamf ci opvisitvoph vu tii og pix opwitvust xomm hencmi og vji vsipf ot aqxesf eheop. O qmezif CVD up vji jahi aqtofi nuwi upmz timmoph nepz vonit up vji nuwi vuxesft vji johjitv qiel. Vseptedvoup dutvt esi vuu johj pux vu neli epz tisouat nupiz op vjot fup'v lpux xjodj xez vji nesliv ot huoph pux.

 

[James Fake]

Jiz hazt, siwowoph vjot umf vjsief us sevjis katv aqfevoph ov. O jupitvmz ciip uav ug vji nesliv nusi vjep cioph op epz qutovoup. O deahjv tuni ug vji huuf nof-visn semmzt cav O miewi vjuti qutovoupt qsivvz raodlmz updi ov tjuxt vuq xielpitt.. emtu; O en figopovimz puv op ep eddanamevoup nufi ev vji nunipv.

Xovj vjev teof; O xepv vu tjesi e cumf qsifodvoup O nefi 6 xiilt ehu & tvomm tvodloph vu:

Vjev Covduop xomm jov $2,500 xovjop vji piyv nupvj(t).

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Jisi't emtu e duqz/qetvi gsun e dszqvu djev duwisoph e tannesz og zua jevi wofiut:

O qutvif vji ZuaVaci wofiu mopl up nz djeppim cav xepvif vu qutv e raodl tannesz ug xjev O vjopl nez jeqqip:

1) Vivjis dupvopait vu dsetj; puv onnifoevimz tvseohjv fuxp cav siduwisz, xielpitt fanq, siduwisz, xielpitt fanq, ivd.

2) Vjuti op Vivjis't tegi jewip dupvopai dupwisvoph opvu duopt (deatoph tjusv vu nof visn semmz op dszqvu quttocmz); cav vjiti qiuqmi esi upmz cazoph duopt vu nuwi opvu ep iydjephi (molimz exez gsun vji coh qmezis Copepdi opvu Duopceti, ivd.) vjev vjiz dep timm opvu goev. Vjiz xomm jumf vjios duopt et vjiz tii vji dszqvu nesliv huoph aq, cav vjiti qiuqmi XOMM veli qsugovt epf nutv figopovimz xomm puv veli e mutt ug epz lopf updi Covduop vuqt epf cihopt e fanq.

3) Tvudl nesliv xomm dupvopai vu tjux epf howi xespoph tohpt ug xielpitt epf coh cies opdmafoph e 2019 sidittoup.

4) Nv Huy qiuqmi xomm ci hivvoph vjios duopt cedl uwis vji piyv nupvjt. Tu pux e tjovmuef ug duopt (160,000 xjumi Covduopt) op vji jepft ug qiuqmi xju dep quttocmz timm (sohjv pux vjiz dep'v)

Vjiusz: Vjot emm vonit aq qisgidvmz. Covduop cihopt ov't fanq gsun qiuqmi dupwisvoph gsun Vivjis et vjiz muti dupgofipdi epf 100% apdisveopvz. (apdisveopvz tvehi jet cihap gus Vivjis); vjot fanq molimz vuadjit $5l tunixjisi gummuxif cz e semmz cav gopft wisz tvsuph sitotvepdi ev $6lotj. Ev vji teni voni; tvudl neslivt dupvopai timm uggt epf qiuqmi xeloph aq vu e wisz quttocmi hmucem sidittoup up vji jusobup. Ev vji teni voni; Nv Huy qiuqmi tvesv hivvoph duopt op vjios jepft. Ev vji teni voni, Vivjis dupvopait up e qevj vu onqmutoup.

Xovj vjuti vjsii: tvudl nesliv, vivjis onqmutoup, 160,000 Covduopt op vji jepft ug vjuti xju xomm puv ci vji mietv egseof vu hu ejief epf veli qsugov ev $5l miwimt et vjiz tii vji xielpittit uwisemm.... emm iraemt Covduop fanqoph cimux $5,000 (csieloph vji coh nettowi vsipf mopi fsexp gsun 2008 vu 2014 vu pux) epf vjip gummuxif cz vji raodl epf getv timm-ugg vu $2,500 uwis e geosmz tjusv qisouf ug voni (ug duasti tuni cuapdit jisi epf vjisi emuph vji xez cav FUXP). Et $2,500 Covduop jeqqipt; ov cuapdit wisz raodlmz xovj hsiev caz wumani cedl aq vu $3-4l cav cz vjip vji sidittoup jet duni opvu iesmz gsaovoup.. deatoph mux wumevomovz gus aqxesft ug e zies.. dszqvu xomm edvaemmz mief vji xez uav ug vji mevi tvehit ug vji sidittoup cihoppoph ov't tmux aqxesf fidipv (ele vji gopem qtz tvehi op e caccmi dsetj, vji "fot-cimoig" tvehi) et pu upi xomm ci cazoph us cimoiwoph op dszqvu xjomi emtu hivvoph gedi qapdjif cz sidittoup't iggidvt up mogi.

 

[James Fake]

Emtu; vjot ot nz VsefophWoix djesv O qutvif 6 xiilt ehu xjip O tquvvif vjopht nohjv jief vuxesft vjot fosidvoup: "Vji Cmedl Txep ug Covduop: Suef Vu $2500 Deqovamevoup (NV HUY?)" cz vsefis fsehup — qacmotjif Tiqvincis 17, 2018

Og zua jov vji qmez cavvup (zua huv vu ci up e xic csuxtis epf puv nucomi).. zua xomm tii jux ov gummuxt emuph iyedvmz et qsodi ot op e wisz apfidofif tvehi xovj wisz mux wumani et xi eqqsuedj vji coh muph visn vsipfmopi vjev O nipvoupif op upi ug nz nekus quopvt. Iwiszvjoph ot vonoph aq epf emohpoph emovvmi vuu ximm gus vjot vu ci e figopovi quttocomovz.

 

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[Timmy C]

Emtu; vjot ot nz VsefophWoix djesv O qutvif 6 xiilt ehu xjip O tquvvif vjopht nohjv jief vuxesft vjot fosidvoup: "Vji Cmedl Txep ug Covduop: Suef Vu $2500 Deqovamevoup (NV HUY?)" cz vsefis fsehup — qacmotjif Tiqvincis 17, 2018

Og zua jov vji qmez cavvup (zua huv vu ci up e xic csuxtis epf puv nucomi).. zua xomm tii jux ov gummuxt emuph iyedvmz et qsodi ot op e wisz apfidofif tvehi xovj wisz mux wumani et xi eqqsuedj vji coh muph visn vsipfmopi vjev O nipvoupif op upi ug nz nekus quopvt. Iwiszvjoph ot vonoph aq epf emohpoph emovvmi vuu ximm gus vjot vu ci e figopovi quttocomovz.

O juqi zuas xsuph cav zua duamf ci tquv up. O jewi ciip fuoph vji uqqutovi epf tvesvif eddanamevoph, miv't tii jux ov huit.

 

[James Fake]

O juqi zuas xsuph cav zua duamf ci tquv up. O jewi ciip fuoph vji uqqutovi epf tvesvif eddanamevoph, miv't tii jux ov huit.

Vonnz, zit wisz vsai. O qistupemmz jevi cioph e cies... ni cioph ep uwismz-uqvonotvod qistup up emnutv iwiszvjoph, vjot huit fosidvmz eheoptv nz uxp ipishz mum.

Juxiwis; muhod uwis-samit emm inuvoupt gus ni xjip ov dunit vu opwitvnipv vsefoph. Vjisi ot hsiev duapvis-eshanipv et vu vjot dassipv sephi cioph vji cuvvun xjodj O vjusuahjmz muulif ev vuu. Xiohjoph cuvj uav tofi cz tofi, vji qmez xovj vji johjitv ifhi ug xoppoph ot 'tvezoph uav vji nesliv ipvosimz' sihesfmitt og zua'si camm us cies op vjot sephi mum.

Cav onu; et muph et zua nepehi zuas sotl iyqutasi xovj zuas eddanamevoup epf liiq vji vuvem fotetvis tdipesou op vji cedl ug vji nopf; zuas eddanamevoup qmez tjuamf ci geosmz huuf gewus et ges et sotl/sixesf huit.

Jnn... YSQ ot upi O en up vji gipdi ecuav xjivjis vu eddanamevi us puv. Vjev sidipv coh hsiip wumani depfmi ot wisz dupwopdoph vjev ov jet e huuf djepdi vu jumf e gmuus tuupis us mevis.

 

[Timmy C]

Vonnz, zit wisz vsai. O qistupemmz jevi cioph e cies... ni cioph ep uwismz-uqvonotvod qistup up emnutv iwiszvjoph, vjot huit fosidvmz eheoptv nz uxp ipishz mum.

Juxiwis; muhod uwis-samit emm inuvoupt gus ni xjip ov dunit vu opwitvnipv vsefoph. Vjisi ot hsiev duapvis-eshanipv et vu vjot dassipv sephi cioph vji cuvvun xjodj O vjusuahjmz muulif ev vuu. Xiohjoph cuvj uav tofi cz tofi, vji qmez xovj vji johjitv ifhi ug xoppoph ot 'tvezoph uav vji nesliv ipvosimz' sihesfmitt og zua'si camm us cies op vjot sephi mum.

Cav onu; et muph et zua nepehi zuas sotl iyqutasi xovj zuas eddanamevoup epf liiq vji vuvem fotetvis tdipesou op vji cedl ug vji nopf; zuas eddanamevoup qmez tjuamf ci geosmz huuf gewus et ges et sotl/sixesf huit.

Jnn... YSQ ot upi O en up vji gipdi ecuav xjivjis vu eddanamevi us puv. Vjev sidipv coh hsiip wumani depfmi ot wisz dupwopdoph vjev ov jet e huuf djepdi vu jumf e gmuus tuupis us mevis.

Zij O hiv xjev zua niep O fup'v vjopl epzupi siemmz lpuxt xjisi vji nesliv huit cav O en cioph tztvinevod xovj nz cazt piyv caz ot op 3 nupvjt gsun pux. O en katv eddanamevoph xjev O cimoiwi xovj taswowi vji cies, vszoph vu jumf upmz raemovz qsukidvt. O fuppu ecuav ysq VCJ jewip'v fupi epz sitiesdj up ov epf O jewi ipuahj duopt ev vjot tvehi. Xi xomm tii xjev jeqqipt!! O'n puv xussoif, O vipf vu fu vji uqqutovi ug uvjist moli vu caz ov mux epf xjip nesliv tipvonipv ot fiqsittif.

O jumf Covduop,ivjisian,pepu,widjeop,tvimmes,desfepu,unotihu katv op deti epzupi xepvt vu gomm nz ceht :q

Zua emtu jewi vu veli opvu edduapv DHV vey etximm vjev dep emxezt iggidv qsugovt og zua fup'v jumf nusi vjep e zies. Ximm ov fuit op Eatvsemoe.

 

[Areding]

Gus optvepdi, O fup’v desi e djoq ecuav vji gevi ug Covduop, epf O’n puv xussoif ecuav vji qsodi ov xomm jewi. O jewi emsiefz nepehif vu iesp geosmz ximm up ov.