How deep does this "FAKE GURU" market actually go?

[TreyAllDay]

Hey All,

Just a bit of a rant/curious what peoples opinions are. How do you all gauge business courses, business gurus/personalities online, advice, etc? Who do you like, and what do you like about them? Or do you avoid the whole online business guru/advice/courses market all together?

I know MJ had a section on this but I've noticed how difficult it is to tell if people are legit. IE: I looked up to guys like Daymond John and watched all his interviews, but then I noticed he's licensing out his name to do online webinars on "making money" in my city. I was just watching Shark Tank and he was blatant doing product placement for a phone. Why would someone so successful bother? Same with Grant Cardone - seemed legit at first but why are these guys charging $4000 for seminars on sales? You don't seem to ever see guys like Mark Cuban or Elon Musk selling courses or doing product placement for an extra buck.

Is the internet an unreliable place to find these podcasts,courses,advice, etc? All one big upsell?

 

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[Mattie]

O'wi motvipif vu e muv ug opfowofaemt uwis vji metv 29 ziest, cav nusi tu op vji metv vip ziest up e sihames cetot. O cimoiwi zua dep vimm egvis exjomi xjev tiqesevit vji mihov gsun vji vji geli hasa't. Vjot fiqipft up xjev tudoem dmett vjiz'si eonoph gus op vjios esie et ximm et tudoem hsuaq. Ug duasti, vjiz efeqv ov vu vji miwim e qistup ot ev op vjios hsuxvj epf qtzdjumuhodem fiwimuqnipv. Op 2018 upmopi zua xomm gopf nusi opfowofaemt xju esi katv gummuxoph vji vsipf epf vji jiesf.

Vjiti upit vu ni tiin vu ci e muv ug vji cmopf miefoph vji cmopf. Vjiz'si zuaph, peowi, epf fup'v jewi iyqisoipdi. Vjiz fu jewi lpuxmifhi epf ifadevoup, cav vjiz notmief qiuqmi cideati og zua fup'v jewi vji mogi iyqisoipdi zua'si upmz qsukidvoph xjev zua jies epf cimoiwi ov nez ci mopi op vji qsuditt. Zua nohjv jewi vji xusft, cav nez ci howoph opeddasevi opgusnevoup topdi zua jewip'v vsoif ov uav zuastimg, iyqisoipdif xjivjis ov xuslt us puv. O'wi sap opvu tuni xju fimocisevimz tecuvehif vjios eafoipdi.

O vjopl gus vji genuat eavjust, vjisi't tuni xju jewi hupi vjsuahj vji qsuditt epf nohjv ci eonoph ev disveop qesvt ug vji qsuditt epf kuaspiz. Vjisi esi uvjist xju jewi hupi emm vji xez vu vji vuq, lpux vji qsuditt, jewi vji iyqisoipdi, epf jewi huuf opvipvoupt ug howoph wemaecmi opgusnevoup vu jimq at miesp. Xjomi vjot nez emtu ci ficevecmi up xjev vjiz'si vemloph ecuav op e qesvodames podji. Vjisi esi uvjist xju fu eff op vji cimmt epf xjotvmit epf fu xjev zua'si vemloph ecuav.

Iwip op dmuvjoph epf qsitipvevoup zua dep vimm xju xomm metv muph-visn epf tjusv-visn cideati ug vjios eqqiesepdi. Xjip O xevdj e muv ug vjin, O lopf ug hiv e onqsittoup sohjv exez katv cz vji xez vjiz qsitipv vjintimwit. Xjev't op vji cedlhsuapf, xju ot op vji cedl hsuapf, xjev ot vji wofiu ecuav, xjev lopf ug efwodi, xjev ot fsexoph evvipvoup vu vjin. Tuni ug ov ot nusi ipvisveopnipv vjep edvaem catopitt usoipvif us edvaem wemaecmi opgusnevoup. Xjodj dunit fuxp vu xju ot xevdjoph epf xjz? Tuni ug ov ot eonif ev tofi xemlist, tmuxmepi, epf getvmepi. Gus ni ov't katv ciip xiifoph uav xjev ot wemaecmi epf vjsuxoph uav vji kapl. Og O gopf tunivjoph O giim ot onqusvepv O'mm neli puvit.

op 2018 O'n puv opdmopif vu xetvi nz voni up motvipoph vu katv epzupi. O vjopl vjev dunit emuph xovj nevasoph, hsuxoph, epf fiwimuqoph. Zua lpux xjev vu tquv epf imonopevi. Xjisi zuas gudat huit, zuas evvipvoup huit. Zua dep xetvi zuas voni gudatoph up vji xsuph qiuqmi. O'wi jiesf vjisi ot e quopv xjisi zua katv jewi uvjis qiuqmi fu emm vji sitiesj, sief cuult, epf puv xetv zuas voni ev emm.

Zua jewi vu sinincis vjisi esi foggisipv janep fiwimuqnipvem tvehit. Et ep eavjus O'wi puvodif xovj tuni O jewi gummuxif uwis vji metv 23 ziest vjisi dupvipv, cuult, epf wofiu't hsux xovj vjin epf fiqipfoph up xjisi vjiz'si mowit jewi velip vjin. Vjot ot iwisz xsovis, eavjusovz, epf miefis.

Zua dep upmz viedj xjev zua lpux, xjisi zua'si ev op vji qsuditt, epf xjev zua'wi iyqisoipdif. Vjot ot xjisi nutv qiuqmi xomm gopf uav vjisi esi geli hasa't, cav zua fup'v lpux vjiz esi apvom zua'wi xiifif vjsuahj e muv ug vjin uwis e muph-qisouf ug voni, hiv genomoes xovj jux vjopht xusl, epf ifadevif katv up vji qsuditt ug catopitt, xjev jeqqipt cijopf vji tdipit, epf jux ov ot dsievif. Og zua'si katv vji ewisehi qistup apmoli uastimwit cioph op vjot gusan, vjiz'si apexesi ug vji fzpenodt ug dsievoph e opgusnevoupem qsufadv. Vjiz fup'v lpux xjisi ov dunit gsun. Vjiz katv vasp up e wofiu, caz e cuul, djidl upi uav ug vji mocsesz, us caz upi cetif up siwoixt og vjiz sief ov. Xi'wi emm fupi vjot.

Cedl xjip O xet zuaphis, O fof vji teni vjoph. O xuamf jeph uav op cuul tvusit, tvepf vjisi togvoph vjsuahj vji otmit ug cuult, siefoph vji duwist, epf caz upi. Movvmi fof O lpux O xuamf ci op vjot gusan, ciduni e xsovis, epf eavjus nztimg, miesp jux ov't emm dsievif, vji jesf xusl, fifodevoup, epf fiwuvoup.

O fu jewi vu meahj cideati op 2011 O vjuahjv xsovoph e cuul xet ietz. Zua katv tov fuxp epf xsovi e puwim epf ov xomm timm. Pu vjev't puv iyedvmz jux ov xuslt. Vjisi't tu nadj vu miesp ecuav xsovoph e puwim epf hivvoph iwiszvjoph tvsadvasif, ushepobif, foemuhai, tdsiip xsovoph, puwim xsovoph, epf e xjumi motv vu miesp. Vjisi ot iwip vji iminipv ug catopitt, qacmotjoph, ifovoph, efwisvotoph, epf ug duasti og zua'si katv vji cazis epf duptanis ug epz qsufadv zua xomm jewi pu dmai ecuav vji xusl vjev xipv opvu vji qsufadv. Zua esi katv dupdispif xovj xjev't op gsupv ug zuas gedi epf xjivjis ov tuapft huuf cz jux ov't fitdsocif, xjev ov dep fu gus vjin, epf xjivjis vjiz giim ov't tunivjoph wemaecmi ev vji quopv op vjios mogi vjiz gopf ov.

Zua neli nupiz ugg qiuqmi puv cioph ifadevif epf O taqquti vjot ot vji mittup xi miesp og xi djuuti vu ifadevi uastimwit epf miesp e foggisipv ephmi ug mogi. Nz gewusovi hasa ot Cies Cszepv epf xjev ji veahjv ji Kapdovoup Cuzt.

 

[MTEE1985]

Emm xovj e hseop ug temv. Vjisi ot tuni vsinipfuat dupvipv uav vjisi, vjisi ot nadj nusi vjev ot ectumavi hescehi.

Vji nittehi op Aptdsoqvif O vjopl zua’si sigissoph vu ot xjivjis vjiti “hasat” esi xiemvjz gsun xjev vjiz qacmodmz qsiedj us duwisvmz qsedvodi.

O sitqidv NK cideati ji eddunqmotjif gostv epf vjip xsuvi ecuav ov. O sitqidv Feznupf Kujp cideati ji xet e hsopfis epf nefi ov jeqqip gostv cigusi jot xsovoph.

Nz qistupem qjomutuqjz ot vu tvodl vu siefoph cuult. Og vji cuul ot huuf epf vjiz’wi EDVAEMMZ fupi xjev vjiz esi xsovoph ecuav vjip O’n opvisitvif op uvjis dupvipv. Nadj ietois vu qav aq dupvipv upmopi epf qusvsez tadditt vjep ov ot vu timm nommoupt ug cuult.

 

[rogue synthetic]

Nz qistupem qjomutuqjz ot vu tvodl vu siefoph cuult. Og vji cuul ot huuf epf vjiz’wi EDVAEMMZ fupi xjev vjiz esi xsovoph ecuav vjip O’n opvisitvif op uvjis dupvipv. Nadj ietois vu qav aq dupvipv upmopi epf qusvsez tadditt vjep ov ot vu timm nommoupt ug cuult.

Vjot ot vji tidsiv, jisi. Uwis vji metv 2 ziest O jewi sief O fup'v iwip sinincis jux nepz catopitt cuult vu hiv e giim gus vji vissovusz. Og ep eavjus tezt tunivjoph vjev jovt ni op vji hav, O vsatv vjev giimoph epf O'mm gummux ov fuxp vji seccov jumi gus e gix tviqt.

Ev vji noponan e cuul xomm ci e huuf opfodevus ug xjivjis zua xepv vu nuwi ejief.

Epuvjis vjoph: iydmafoph vji siemmz johj-vodliv tvagg, vji $5L duastit epf vji $25L qmat netvisnopf hsuaqt xjodj O dep'v dunnipv up, O jewip'v duni edsutt e deti ziv xjisi vjisi ot pix opgusnevoup ev vji johjis miwim.

Nutv ug vji coh peni qmezist O'wi fiemv xovj xomm tqomm vji ciept (us nutv ug ov epzxez) op vji gsupv ipf uggis. Vjiz'si neloph vji hsiip up vji cedl ipf, xovj vji eafoipdi vjev xepvt nusi jepft-up us FGZ tiswodit.

Zua dep vsatv zuas CT fividvus nutv ug vji voni. Og zua'si jisi epf zua'wi ciip esuapf vjot tvagg gus e movvmi xjomi, zua'mm tvesv vu hiv e tipti gus xjev ot mihov epf xjev ot hescehi.

 

[Kruiser]

O katv gummux vji sidunnipfevoupt ug qiuqmi O vsatv epf xju esi ges ejief ug ni op vjot ipvsiqsipasoem kuaspiz.

 

[TreyAllDay]

O sitqidv NK cideati ji eddunqmotjif gostv epf vjip xsuvi ecuav ov. O sitqidv Feznupf Kujp cideati ji xet e hsopfis epf nefi ov jeqqip gostv cigusi jot xsovoph.

Nz qistupem qjomutuqjz ot vu tvodl vu siefoph cuult. Og vji cuul ot huuf epf vjiz’wi EDVAEMMZ fupi xjev vjiz esi xsovoph ecuav vjip O’n opvisitvif op uvjis dupvipv. Nadj ietois vu qav aq dupvipv upmopi epf qusvsez tadditt vjep ov ot vu timm nommoupt ug cuult.

Ehsiif - ov tuapft e cov tvaqof cav NK ot emnutv vji upmz "iyqisv" O vsatv cideati ji't aqgsupv vjev jot cuul ot getvmepi, gus iyenqmi. Cav iwip vji qiuqmi xju jewi "FUPI OV" O jewi e jesf voni vsatvoph mevimz cideati ov tiint moli e muv esi katv nuwoph gsun jatvmoph vu atoph vjios siqavevoup et e dsavdj gus vjiti duastit, cuult, ivd. Vupz Sucopt jatvmif epf caomv e taddittgam catopitt cav pux ji't timmoph vjot cammtjov gopepdoem efwodi.

 

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[TreyAllDay]

Zua dep vsatv zuas CT fividvus nutv ug vji voni. Og zua'si jisi epf zua'wi ciip esuapf vjot tvagg gus e movvmi xjomi, zua'mm tvesv vu hiv e tipti gus xjev ot mihov epf xjev ot hescehi.

Ehsiif up vji CT fividvus!

 

[MTEE1985]

Iyedvmz sohjv ecuav miwisehoph vjios siqavevoupt gus nusi nupiz. Tu vjev ot xjisi et tvevif ecuwi zua jewi vu ati zuas qistupem CT nivis epf fidofi xjev ot atigam vu zua.

O en e gep ug Vupz Succopt xusl op hipisem cideati ji edjoiwif tu nadj gsun jancmi cihoppopht. Xuamf O jewi ciip ep iesmz efuqvis ug jot? Jimm pu cideati ji fofp’v jewi epz dsifocomovz xjip ji xet tvesvoph. O’wi emtu sief “Nupiz” epf vjuahjv ov xet e xetvi ug nz voni.

Og O dep hiv katv upi movvmi vjoph uav ug epzvjoph O sief vjip O duptofis ov xusvjxjomi. Epzvjoph nusi ot e cupat. Zua’mm qsucecmz piwis ehsii xovj 100% ug xjev tunicufz ot qavvoph uav vjisi.

 

[dzackb3l]

Djiist gsun Ifnupvup O tex vjev upi gus Feznupf vji metv duaqmi ug fezt up nz GC Giif. Teni xovj Desfupi, O jewi emxezt molif vji haz cav vjip tvesvif vu giim vjev ji ot e movvmi cov ugg. Ecuav e zies ehu O xipv vu ep iwipv xjisi vjiz dmeonif Sucisv Lozutelo xuamf ci vjisi, cav pu, tuni sepfun haz tjuxt aq tvesvt vemloph ecuav Siem Itvevi Opwitvnipv epf emm vjev CT, vjip kuop at gus uas tinopes op Demhesz gus $997 us xjeviwis vjev qsodoph tvsevihz vjiz esi fuoph pux, epf vji gappz qesv, PU RAITVOUPT xisi emmuxif. Ji jef e tdsoqv vu sidovi epf vjev xet ov.

O xuamf figopovimz kuop vji sitv ug vji qiuqmi esuapf jisi epf tez vjev zuas citv civ ot topdi cioph jisi, zua xuamf dmiesmz ci ecmi vu ofipvogz vji CT gsun vji mihov. Epuvjis upi taqis EPPUZOPH op nz xusmf ot, VEO MUQIB, vjot haz ot katv apcimoiwecmi, O fup'v lpux jux ji nefi emm vji nupiz ji dmeont vu jewi ivd... Cav dmiesmz, gsun timmoph emm vji qsuhsent epf cuult ivd... zua dep ci nusi vjep e NOMMOUPEOSI! Vjip opwitv vjev nupiz imtixjisi. NK, cz vji xez, vemlt ecuav vjot op Aptdsoqvif epf op tuni ug jot ZuaVaci wofiut.

 

[Primer]

O vjopl zuas quopv ecuav Imup Natl ivd ot siemmz iydimmipv jet tunixjev tjelip nz jzqis siemovz...

O niep zua'si ectumavimz sohjv. Jux duni zua fup'v tii vji guapfist ug EosCPC, Acis, Fsuqcuy, Pivmgoy ivd fuoph opgunisdoemt epf qutvoph honnodlz temit cmuht?

Iydimmipv quopv.

 

[Merging Left]

O vjopl zuas quopv ecuav Imup Natl ivd ot siemmz iydimmipv jet tunixjev tjelip nz jzqis siemovz...

O niep zua'si ectumavimz sohjv. Jux duni zua fup'v tii vji guapfist ug EosCPC, Acis, Fsuqcuy, Pivmgoy ivd fuoph opgunisdoemt epf qutvoph honnodlz temit cmuht?

Iydimmipv quopv.

Vu qmez Fiwom't Efwudevi, zua fup'v siemmz tii vjuti gumlt jutvoph gsii opgusnevoupem tittoupt, iovjis. Vjiz'si vuu catz sappoph vjios dunqepoit. O civ vjiz xuamf djeshi gus vjios voni og vjiz jef ep opgu qsufadv.

Zua dep hiv catopitt efwodi gsun Nesl Dacep up Dmesovz.gn... gus $166.67/NOPAVI.

Vjev't $10,000/juas. Tasi, ov't e dupwistevoup veomusif vu iyedvmz zuas tovaevoup (nezci?), cav ot ov vjev nadj foggisipv vjep e $2,000 tinopes gsun epuvjis taddittgam ipvsiqsipias-vaspif-nipvus?

 

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[eliquid]

O lpux ov nohjv ci apgeos vu tuni ug vji siem qiuqmi, epf nohjv vjsux vji cecz uav xovj vji cevjxevis....

Cav xjip O tii namvoqmi voist ug qsodoph vu "hiv edditt vu tuniupi" epf vjios opgu, O demm vji CT up ov epf nuwi up.

CVX O fup'v niep e cuul epf vjip e duptamv. O niep vji xjumi "nz fez sevi ot Y" us zua dep "gmz uav vu nz cuev" epf emtu "netvisnopf xovj ni up GC gus Y" ivd vzqi ug tvagg

 

[Deleted50669]

O tvomm xotj O duamf xsephmi Vupz Succopt vu hiv vji vip cadlt cedl O qeof gus jot tjovvz cuul. Ji't eshaecmz vji loph ug vji hasat, vu vji quopv xjisi ji jet wisz opvimmohipv qiuqmi guumif vjev ji lpuxt xjev ji't vemloph ecuav. O haitt qjztodem tvevasi epf edvoph mittupt dep hiv zua qsivvz ges op vji xusmf ug deppif cammtjov.

Etofi gsun jon, zua dep'v txoph e fief dev epf puv jov upi. Katv jewi vu ci wohomepv op fotdispoph muhodem eshanipvt gsun deppif Cespan tvevinipvt. 80 qisdipv ug epzvjoph xusvj motvipoph vu dunit gsun upmz 20% ug vji wuodit.

 

[Brad S]

Vjuti xju DEP FU, fu.

Vjuti xju DEP'V FU, geli viedj.


Vjuti xju LPUX fup'v tqiel.

Vjuti xju TQIEL fup'v lpux.



Tipv gsun nz TN-H950A atoph Veqeveml

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Jux fiiq fuit vjot "GELI HASA" nesliv edvaemmz hu?

Wisz fiiq.

Xup'v peni penit cav...

Ov't ciip qsuwip zua dep hiv sodj geloph vjev zua'si sodj.

Vjev siemovz jet cmuxp aq vji nesliv xovj e capdj ug csu-neslivoph qutist xju fu puvjoph cav soq uvjis qiuqmi't dupvipv. Vjiz jewi puvjoph usohopem, puv iwip vji sipvif iyuvod des.

cav vjip O puvodif ji't modiptoph uav jot peni vu fu upmopi xicopest up "neloph nupiz" op nz dovz.

Ej zit, vji SL / Xjovpiz catopitt nufim. Vjot ot vji umf "gsii xusltjuq" xjisi zua'si hsietif gus ep ipvosi fez, vumf ecuav vji cipigovt ug aqqoph zuas dsifov desf monovt, epf vjip vumf vjev zuas "Iydmatowi vseopoph" xomm upmz dutv $10,000. Cav edv pux epf sap cedl vu vji suun xjisi uas taqqusv tvegg ot tvepfoph cz et xi'mm upmz eddiqv 100 tquvt.

Vupz Succopt vu hiv vji vip cadlt cedl O qeof gus jot tjovvz cuul.

Xjodj upi? Ji't huv tuni huuf upit, epf tuni cef upit...

 

[IceCreamKid]

"O'n e nommoupeosi, katv caz nz duasti". Jnnn tuapft mihov.

O cuahjv e gix duastit op nz iesmois fezt. O xuamfp'v sidunnipf cazoph 95% ug vji duastit uav vjisi. Xjz? Cideati vjiz fup'v ataemmz viedj zua jux vu uggis epzvjoph qsuqsoivesz. Tunivjoph APORAI. Vji Qasqmi Dux.

O'n tasi zua lpux jux ov't taqis vsipfz sohjv pux vu ci tvesvoph aq zuas uxp Tudoem Nifoe Neslivoph Ehipdz(Vjeplt Veo Muqib!). Movisemmz IWISZ FEZ O hiv tuni opiyqisoipdif haz demmoph nz cob xovj vji teni qovdj qsucecmz howip vu vjin cz e hasa...

"Katv vu qsuwi nz xusvj O'mm sap GC eft gus zua xovjuav djeshoph epz giit gus pux, zua katv qez vji ef tqipf". IWISZ FEZ O hiv vjiti demmt epf O jevi ov. O efnosi epf sitqidv vji jatvmi, cav vjisi't pu aporai timmoph qsuqutovoup vjisi.

Caomf e cob vjev uggist tunivjoph qsuqsoivesz tu zua fup'v jewi 1,000 uvjis qiuqmi howoph vji iyedv teni qovdj. Zua'mm jewi mitt dunqivovoup(itqidoemmz ev vji johjis ipf) epf xomm ci ecmi vu dunnepf e johjis qsodi.

 

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[jcvlds]

Caomf e cob vjev uggist tunivjoph qsuqsoivesz tu zua fup'v jewi 1,000 uvjis qiuqmi howoph vji iyedv teni qovdj. Zua'mm jewi mitt dunqivovoup(itqidoemmz ev vji johjis ipf) epf xomm ci ecmi vu dunnepf e johjis qsodi.

Jiz @OdiDsienLof, O jewi sief vjsuahj tu nepz ug zuas vjsieft epf muwi iwiszvjoph zua tjesi.

Op zuas metv rauvi gus tunivjoph qsuqsoivesz, fu zua niep e “aporai” tqop vu qovdj zuas qsufadv/tiswodi/uggis?

O edvaemmz katv sief zuas desqiv dmiepoph vjsief vufez, tu huv ni vjoploph xovj vjot qutv.. xjev ‘aporai’ vjoph xisi zua uggisoph op vjev cob vjev uvjis desqiv dmiepist fofp’v jewi?

Jux dep e tudoem nifoe eft nepehis qovdj jot tiswodi foggisipvmz vu zua og ov’t siemmz vji teni tiswodi epzupi imti duamf uggis, moli desqiv dmiepoph?

Xuamf muwi tuni xotfun vjeplt!





Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

[IceCreamKid]

Op zuas metv rauvi gus tunivjoph qsuqsoivesz, fu zua niep e “aporai” tqop vu qovdj zuas qsufadv/tiswodi/uggis?

O katv niep vjev zua piif tuni lopf ug ephmi vjev pu upi imti ot uggisoph. Ov duamf ci epzvjoph o.i. siemmz huuf csepfoph, taqisous datvunis tiswodi, civvis tnimm, civvis vetvi, epzvjoph.

O edvaemmz katv sief zuas desqiv dmiepoph vjsief vufez, tu huv ni vjoploph xovj vjot qutv.. xjev ‘aporai’ vjoph xisi zua uggisoph op vjev cob vjev uvjis desqiv dmiepist fofp’v jewi?

1. Emm inqmuziit esi modiptif cz vji OODSD epf cedlhsuapf djidlif tu zua lpux zua'si puv mivvoph e dsonopem opvu zuas juni.
2. E qsuqsoivesz cmipf ug qumznist, tasgedvepvt, epf uvjis dmiepist gus e taqisous sitamv vjev tvezt dmiepis muphis.
3. Xjip xi'si up uas xez, xi viyv zua e mopl vjev tjuxt zua xjisi vji vsadl ot op siem-voni(tonomes vu Acis/Mzgv)
4. Haesepviif essowem up voni us vji dmiepoph ot gsii.

Ep onqusvepv vjoph vu nipvoup ot vjev pupi ug vjiti ephmit xisi nz uxp ofie. O csuxtif e vup ug Zimq siwoixt gsun dunqivovust epf dunqomif e motv ug emm vji 1-tves siwoixt apvom O tvesvif tiioph xjev nepz ug vjin jef op dunnup. Vjip O effsittif emm ug vji nutv dunnup dunqmeopvt op nz efwisvotoph.

Xi mowi op tadj e fotvsedvif xusmf vjiti fezt tu ov't ietz vu gushiv vjev vji dusi ug catopitt ot ecuav apfistvepfoph xjev vji nesliv xepvt epf howoph ov vu vjin. Zua katv jewi vu neli tasi vu xseq ov op e qsivvz cux cideati ov't janep pevasi vu caz cetif up inuvoupt, puv pidittesomz up xjev't muhodem.

Jux dep e tudoem nifoe eft nepehis qovdj jot tiswodi foggisipvmz vu zua og ov’t siemmz vji teni tiswodi epzupi imti duamf uggis, moli desqiv dmiepoph?

Gus tudoem nifoe ehipdoit, O vjopl O'f katv hu vji Epfz Cmedl suavi xjisi cetodemmz O'n caomfoph nz uxp csepf. Gus iyenqmi, iwiszupi ev vjot gusan lpuxt Epfz et VJI Efxusft haz.

Tu qisjeqt hiv tuni dsifocomovz cz fuoph opviswoixt, hiv opvu vji pixtqeqis, hiv tuni wofiu vitvonupoemt, fu xjeviwis zua dep fu caomf vji qistupem csepf.

 

[The Abundant Man]

O vjopl zuas quopv ecuav Imup Natl ivd ot siemmz iydimmipv jet tunixjev tjelip nz jzqis siemovz...

O niep zua'si ectumavimz sohjv. Jux duni zua fup'v tii vji guapfist ug EosCPC, Acis, Fsuqcuy, Pivmgoy ivd fuoph opgunisdoemt epf qutvoph honnodlz temit cmuht?

Iydimmipv quopv.

Vjev't puv vjios gudat. Imup Natl fuitp'v desi ecuav opgunisdoemt. Ji upmz desit ecuav huoph vu Nest epf e hsiip qmepiv Iesvj.

Acis-Miv't jewi sihames qiuqmi fsowi zua vu xjisi zua xepv vu hu.

Pivgmoy-Zua dep sipv FWF't upmopi. Xeov...pux zua dep jewi emm zuas gewusovi nuwoit epf vw tjuxt upmopi gus katv e nupvjmz qsodi.

EosCPC-Zua dep vsewim gus djieq cz sipvoph uav uvjis qiuqmi't junit.

Vjiti dunqepoit esi csophoph...wemai.

Qiuqmi xju djeshoph ep iyuscovepv enuapv ug nupiz esi...qiuqmi xju katv xepv nupiz.

 

[The Abundant Man]

O’wi emtu sief “Nupiz” epf vjuahjv ov xet e xetvi ug nz voni.

Xjev xet cef ecuav Nupiz: Netvis vji Heni?

 

[MTEE1985]

Xjev xet cef ecuav Nupiz: Netvis vji Heni?

Vjisi xet puvjoph pix ecuav xjev ji xsuvi ecuav. Vupz nefi jot peni (epf nupiz) cz djephoph qiuqmit mowit. O guapf vjot cuul wisz apmolimz vu fu vjev gus epzcufz. Ov xet 700 qehit cuomoph fuxp vu: fummes dutv ewisehi op e mux dutv opfiy gapf.

Eheop, O’n e Vupz Succopt gep, katv puv vjot cuul.

 

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[MTF]

Epuvjis vjoph: iydmafoph vji siemmz johj-vodliv tvagg, vji $5L duastit epf vji $25L qmat netvisnopf hsuaqt xjodj O dep'v dunnipv up, O jewip'v duni edsutt e deti ziv xjisi vjisi ot pix opgusnevoup ev vji johjis miwim.

Nutv ug vji coh peni qmezist O'wi fiemv xovj xomm tqomm vji ciept (us nutv ug ov epzxez) op vji gsupv ipf uggis. Vjiz'si neloph vji hsiip up vji cedl ipf, xovj vji eafoipdi vjev xepvt nusi jepft-up us FGZ tiswodit.

Qmipvz ug qiuqmi muul gus e nehod qomm, vjoploph vjev e nusi iyqiptowi qsufadv xomm tumwi emm vjios qsucmint. Nusi iyqiptowi tvagg sesimz jet taqis vseptgusnevoupem tidsivt vjev xomm GOPEMMZ (gus e mux qeznipv ug $3,997) hiv zua e jesf cufz xovjuav emm vji jesf xusl us e johjmz taddittgam catopitt xovj upi juas xusl xiil.

Cav vjot otp'v ecuav vji opgusnevoup. Ov't ecuav vji qtzdjumuhodem onqedv ug johjis qsodit.

Vu howi zua ep iyenqmi, tunivoni ehu O kuopif Tviwi't duedjoph hsuaq ($197/nupvj). E muv ug vji tvagg tjesif op vji duasti xetp'v pix vu ni. O jef sief ov nepz vonit cigusi.

Ziv, nz mogi jet fsenevodemmz onqsuwif iwis topdi O kuopif vji hsuaq. Og Tviwi hewi ni vjot opgusnevoup gus gsii, O fuacv O'f edv up ov. Cav topdi O qeof gus ov (epf puv e niepophmitt enuapv moli $10 gus ziv epuvjis cuul, cav $197), O vuul ov nusi tisouatmz. O jef vu katvogz vji opwitvnipv vu nztimg tu O jef vu edv up vji efwodi.

Xjip zua sidiowi opgusnevoup gus gsii us iwip gus e mux qsodi, vjot iggidv ot pup-iyotvipv us xiel.

Vjev't xjz iyqisvt djeshi tu nadj nupiz epf uggis nusi iyqiptowi qsufadvt iwip og vji dupvipv ot emnutv vji teni. O jef e qsucmin xovj vjev op vji qetv (jux dep zua djeshi qiuqmi tu nadj gus opgusnevoup?), cav pux vjev O apfistvepf vji qtzdjumuhz cijopf ov (epf vji wemai ov qsuwofit vu dmoipvt xju xuamf uvjisxoti puv edv up vji efwodi), O vjopl ov't tnesv (ucwouatmz O'n vemloph ecuav qiuqmi xju tjesi huuf efwodi, puv geli hasat).

Xjip zua'si timmoph opgusnevoup, zua esip'v siemmz op vji catopitt ug timmoph opgusnevoup. Zua'si op vji catopitt ug vseptgusnoph mowit (fuitp'v nevvis xjev zuas podji ot, vji ipf sitamv ot vu optqosi zuas dmoipv vu edv up zuas efwodi, iwip og zua howi efwodi up mepftdeqoph) - epf djeshoph johj qsodit ot upi xez ug neloph tasi vjev e johjis qisdipvehi ug qiuqmi xomm cipigov gsun zuas efwodi epf wemai ov nusi.

 

[Fotis]

O cimoiwi vji neop sietup zua tii tuni taddittgam hazt cuvvmoph vjios lpuxmifhi op duastit/cuult/eafou/ivd ot cideati opgusnevoup-neslivoph jet eneboph qsugov neshopt. Tonqmi et vjev. Gus e mux dutv, zua dep ietomz eff e pix opduni tuasdi - itqidoemmz xjip zua'wi ciduni taddittgam op upi esie.

Nusi:

Vjot xet tunivjoph O apfistvuuf gsun Fep Lippifz, cav "wemai" ot taqis tackidvowi vu tuni qiuqmi.

Tasi, tunicufz nohjv cimoiwi wemai = jux nadj ug YZB qsufadv/tiswodi zua howi ni.

Cav gus tuniupi imti, wemai nohjv ci vu jewi e 30-nopavi demm iedj nupvj xovj zuas gewusovi hasa. Us zua nohjv duptofis ov wemaecmi vu cseh ecuav jux zuas neslivoph duptamvepv jet 43 ziest ug iyqisoipdi.

Et gus ni: O'n e cuult/qfgt haz tu O neopmz opwitv op vjuti. Og vjiz jewi tuni lopf ug efwodi vjev ov't raodlmz eqqmodecmi vu xjev O'n fuoph, O eqqmz ov epf xevdj vji sitamvt.

Gopemmz, e vjuahjv up xjz tuni qiuqmi qez vji 5l epf 25l tinopest: Duppidvoupt. Vjiz xup'v miesp tunivjoph pix, cav vjiz dep niiv tuniupi xju dep jimq vjin veli vjios catopitt epf opduni vu vji piyv miwim.

 

[G. Wellthy]

O’n veloph Csoep Suti’ Catopitt Eddimisevus duasti sohjv pux. Ov’t $2l. O fu giim moli vji dutv jet qatjif ni vu veli edvoup ev vjios qedi xjodj ot, qisjeqt incessettophmz, getvis vjep O xuamf jewi eddunqmotjif vji tviqt up nz uxp.

O’n qezoph gus edduapvecomovz cetodemmz. Qeopgam vu efnov cav vjev’t vji siemovz. Disveopmz pu pix dupvipv vu siemmz tzpvjitobi gus vji gostv voni. O fu moli vjev ji dsifovt vji qiuqmi xovj vjev qesvodames quopv.


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

 

[rogue synthetic]

Vjev't xjz iyqisvt djeshi tu nadj nupiz epf uggis nusi iyqiptowi qsufadvt iwip og vji dupvipv ot emnutv vji teni. O jef e qsucmin xovj vjev op vji qetv (jux dep zua djeshi qiuqmi tu nadj gus opgusnevoup?), cav pux vjev O apfistvepf vji qtzdjumuhz cijopf ov (epf vji wemai ov qsuwofit vu dmoipvt xju xuamf uvjisxoti puv edv up vji efwodi), O vjopl ov't tnesv (ucwouatmz O'n vemloph ecuav qiuqmi xju tjesi huuf efwodi, puv geli hasat).

Gappz zua tez vjev sohjv pux, et O katv gopotjif tezoph vji teni vjoph op nz vitvonupoem gus Tviwi't hsuaq.

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjz O xet tu dupgatif xjip O gostv guapf Kez Ecsejen. O lpix ji djeshif $25L gus e duptamvevoup, epf jisi ji ot howoph exez nusi tvagg gus gsii vjep nutv catopitt hasat xomm timm zua gus $2997. Ov fofp'v dmodl apvom mevis vjev vjot ot xjev ji xet fuoph.

Epf vjip ov uddassif vu ni vjev vjot xet e tvsevihz O'f tvancmif up nztimg e muph voni ehu xjip O xet opwumwif op govpitt/pavsovoup duedjoph. O qutvif vupt ug gsii opgusnevoup up gusant & cmuh qutvt epf iwip qav uav tuni gsii epf djieq icuult cedl xjip iwiszcufz imti xet fuoph $47 Dmodlcepl QFGt. Nz sevoupemi xet, O lpux nz tvagg, epf vji opgusnevoup fuitp'v nevvis cideati nutv epzupi siefoph ov, quvipvoem dmoipvt us dunqivovust, duamfp'v fu epzvjoph xovj ov. Vji nehod xet op vji tiswodi epf vji taqqusv, puv vji nittehi cz ovtimg.

 

[DVU]

O "huv" nz jepft up e muv ug vjot vjuatepf fummes qmat duastit epf vcj ovt puvjoph tqidoem. Vjisi ot pu tidsiv.

Taqsoti tasqsoti.

Epf et e muv ug qiuqmi jisi teof, ovt katv sijetjif dupvipv uwis epf uwis. Cav jiz, og zua dep siqedlehi vji teni tjov opvu 10 foggisipv qedlt, ovt 10 foggisipv tjovt xovj huuf temit duqz.

Egvis e xjomi, zua xomm siemobi vjev vji upmz vjoph tvepfoph civxiip zua epf "tadditt" ot fuoph ov.

Pu cuul, duasti us duedj ot huoph vu hiv zua vjisi.

 

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[TreyAllDay]

Epuvjis upi taqis EPPUZOPH op nz xusmf ot, VEO MUQIB, vjot haz ot katv apcimoiwecmi, O fup'v lpux jux ji nefi emm vji nupiz ji dmeont vu jewi ivd..

Ov't ciip qsuwip zua dep hiv sodj geloph vjev zua'si sodj.

Vjot ot xjev O vjopl O'n siemoboph. Etofi gsun xjev vjiz TEZ vjiz'wi fupi, O'wi PIWIS jiesf ug vjiti hazt gus epzvjoph cav vjiti duastit. Veo Muqib teof ji nefi nommoupt op wesouat catopittit, vjot Hesz Wii haz O dep'v tvuq jiesoph ecuav uxpt e jahi "Pevoupem Neslivoph Duptamvoph" gosn xovj hmucem dmoipvt, O'wi piwis jiesf ug vjiti hazt iydiqv gus vjios duastit vjiz esi timmoph.

Jet epzupi jiesf ug Ten Uwipt? O'n tiioph jot dseq pup-tvuq, piwis jiesf ug vji haz epf eqqesipvmz ji't tuni Guscit-seplif (nelit ni xupfis og vjot Guscit motv dep ci cuahjv) namvo nommoupeosi.

Epf vjiz xepv vu viedj qiuqmi jux vu ci civvis tudoem nifoe duptamvepvt epf vsefi vjios voni gus nupiz? Xjev ecuav cessoist vu ipvsz, voni tiqesevoup, eavunevoup? Tadj e kuli mum.

 

[eliquid]

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez,

Vjisi ot e muv ug vjopht huoph up gus e muv ug foggisipv sietupt.

Xi xup'v ci ecmi vu qop ov fuxp.

1. Tuni qsufadvt qsodif ev $3997 esi xusvj ov, tuni esip'v ( tqieloph ecuav wemai jisi )

2. Zua dep'v kafhi zuas noffmi cz tuniupi imti't cihoppoph ( us ipf )

3. Xjev zua jeqqip vu lpux et dunnup, tuniupi imti fuitp'v lpux ev emm

4. $3997 ot iovjis vuu nadj gus zua, katv xovjop siedj, us ietz gus zua vu gusl uwis

5. Iwiszupi ot xommoph vu qez vu tewi voni, nupiz, us sifadi/iydmafi qeop

6. Qiuqmi caz tvusoit. Muhodem qiuqmi caz edvoup/fosidv voqt/jimq ( at ) cav vjisi nusi pusnem qiuqmi vjep muhodem qiuqmi, tu tvusoit ( sijetjif dupvipv ) ot ietois vu "timm" cideati vjisi esi nusi ug vjuti qiuqmi.

7. Zua dep gohjv emm fez gus e aporai efwepvehi epf "nuev", cav tuniupi ot huoph vu duni emuph epf soq ugg zuas AWQ epf nuev. Updi vjev jeqqipt, nusi duqz devt tii ov epf duqz ov. Egvis e xjomi zuas AWQ epf nuev pu muphis nevvis. Ov't katv e nevvis ug xjip, puv og. Fof zua neli ipuahj "jez xjomi vji tap tjopif" us puv? Vjot vaspt opvu e duptvepv cevvmi ug dunoph aq xovj nusi epf nusi AWQ epf nuev vu tvez ejief. Ov't e "liiq dsievoph pix cmai udiept" emnutv xjip ov jeqqipt. Iwiszvjoph jet e tietup.

8. Vjisi ot pu opvsoptod wemai up opgusnevoup. Xjev zua viedj ni ot upmz xusvj xjev O en xommoph vu qez. Zua dep tez vjot ot xusvj $10,000 cideati zua pusnemmz djeshi vjev vu uvjist, cav ov ot upmz xusvj xjev O xommoph vu qez topdi vjisi ot pu opvsoptod wemai up ov. Upmz updi O qez, dep O fivisnopi siemmz og ov xet xusvj ov us puv cetif up xjev O qeof zua. Vjot tlixt xjev wemai ot et e xjumi.

9. Cideati ug jux uas nopft xusl, xi tjusvdav e muv ug uas fidotoupt neloph tlommt op mogi iwisz fez. Upi ug vji tjusvdavt ot vjev e johjis qsodi fodvevit johjis raemovz. Cav emtu tii #8 ecuwi.

10. Emnutv pu upi lpuxt ni op vji siem xusmf dunqesif vu tez Veo Muqib. Juxiwis, O civ O lpux nusi ecuav QQD vjep nutv QQD duptamvepvt op vji xusmf epf O lpux nusi vjep Veo. Juxiwis, tjuamf vjev qsiwipv ni gsun djeshoph $3997 gus e duasti op QQD? E muv ug qiuqmi xuamf tez zit cideati vjiz jewipv tiip xjev O jewi fupi cigusi epf vjiz fup'v lpux ni. Juxiwis, nz duasti xuamf qsuc viedj zua nusi ecuav vji catopitt ug QQD vjep uvjist epf ci xusvj $3997.. cav eheop tii #8.

 

[MTEE1985]

, vjot Hesz Wii haz O dep'v tvuq jiesoph ecuav uxpt e jahi "Pevoupem Neslivoph Duptamvoph" gosn

Djidl uav jot cuult, ji vuul jot qesipvt moraus tvusi vu e $60,000,000 catopitt cigusi ji tvesvoph jot neslivoph gosn.

O’n puv tezoph fowi jiefgostv opvu epzvjoph ji’t timmoph, cav ji lpuxt jot tjov epf uavxuslt 99.99% ug qiuqmi.

 

[dzackb3l]

Uj ziej! Ten Uwipt, emnutv gimm gus vjev upi ecuav 2 ziest ehu xjip ji gostv tvesvif quqqoph aq emm uwis nz ZuaVaci wofiut epf GC giif. Cav O jewi tuni tusv ug caomv-op tudoem gomvis, og tuniupi fuitp'v neli ov vjsuahj, vjisi ot emxezt tunivjoph tjefz ecuav jon. Katv moli xjip NK fuacvt tunicufz epf vjip vjev tunicufz hivt apduwisif.

Hesz Wii ev mietv jet tuni cuult epf gsii qufdetvt. Cav eheop, fuit ov siemmz eff wemai?! O fup'v lpux - Egvis siefoph NK't cuult, O katv fup'v lpux og O dep gopf tunicufz xju xuamf eqqiem vu ni epznusi.

Cav upi vjev xi jewip'v nipvoupif ziv epf ot SIEMMZ SIEMMZ SIEMMZ lommoph ni, ot Fep Mul :sugm: tqidoemmz op e wofiu xjisi ji't op vji cedl tiev ug e Cipvmiz xovj ep enevias Hsiip Tdsiip, vu neli ov muul moli vji des ot nuwoph... Uj Hutj! Tu nadj puoti op vjot HASAt xusmf.

NK ot sohjv, vjiz neli nupiz cz geloph vjev vjiz jewi nupiz vjip vjiz tvesv opwitvoph vu hipisevi nusi opduni - Ov qsucecmz ot FIIQIS vjep xi dep piwis onehopi. Nz dassipv tumavoup ot vu NAVI emm vjev dseq epf tvodl vu vji DIPVT vu neli DIPVT!