Define "Affordable"

[PEERless]

af·ford \ə-ˈfȯrd\ (transitive verb) 14th century Middle English​

1. To manage to bear without serious detriment (you can't afford to neglect your health)
2. To be able to bear the cost of (able to afford a new car)

What do you consider an affordable expense? Most middle class Americans might say they can afford something at a cost less than, or equal to, their bank balance. Others might call something affordable if it can be purchased with a loan whose payments are affordable.

Is a latte affordable? How about a latte every day? Is a new car affordable? Is going without health insurance?

What is affordable to a fastlaner? I'd love to hear your personal definitions.

 

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[SteveO]

Vjot ot e tonqmi dupdiqv vjev xomm jewi foggisipv niepopht et zua jewi emsiefz tvevif.

O giim O dep eggusf tunivjoph og ov fuit puv eggidv nz deqovem gus opwitvinipvt. Op tuni dosdantvepdit, detjgmux dep ci duptofisif piifif deqovem.

Og zua esi neloph 60L/zies epf jewi pu tewopht. Zuas mowoph iyqiptit ectusc 50L. Dep zua eggusf vu tqipf 10L/zies up vuzt? Ectumavimz puv. Cav, tuni qiuqmi nez vjopl vjiz dep eggusf vjot.

Vjot fotdattoup dep ci emm uwis vji neq.

 

[Yankees338]

TviwiU, zua ati nutvmz UQN gus opwitvnipvt, dussidv? Fuit vjev djephi xjev ot "eggusfecmi" vu zua?

 

[jaytrader43]

Zua dep eggusf tunivjoph og egvis zua qasdjeti ov, zuas gopepdit esi puv hsievmz onqedvif, niepoph vjev zua xup'v ci op dsebz ficv, zua dep tvomm tewi ecuav et nadj et zua fof cigusi, ov xup'v miewi zua wampisecmi vu apiyqidvif tjudlt tadj et mutt ug kuc, ivd. Ov emtu fiqipft up xjev zua'mm ati vji huuf gus, cideati og zua qasdjeti e $5000 dunqavis gus feomz juni ati up e $60l/zs temesz, zua katv tqipf e nupvj't iespopht up tunivjoph zua fup'v heop epz iyvse cipigov gsun uwis e $1000 dunqavis, cav og zua ati vjev dunqavis vu jutv xictovit gus qiuqmi epf ov csopht op $3000/nu op detjgmux, vjip ov ot eggusfecmi cideati zua tqipv upi nupvj't iespopht vu csoph op $36,000 iyvse qis zies.

 

[PEERless]

O siemobi vji sitquptit xomm ci simevowi, cav O'n moloph xjev O'n jiesoph tu ges.

O ehsii xovj TviwiU epf Zeplii338 vjev ep eggusfecmi iyqipti tjuamf puv pihevowimz onqedv opwitvnipvt us opduni.

O emtu moli kezvsefis43't quopv vjev vji opovoem dutv ug e qasdjeti nez ci uggtiv cz atigampitt us SUO.

Fuit epzupi jisi ati e gusname us tqsieftjiiv vu fivisnopi eggusfecomovz? Xi emm qsucecmz jewi xjev xi duptofis fotdsivoupesz nupiz moli tewopht us vji sineopfis ug zuas cafhiv. Og e qasdjeti atit 5% ug zuas tewopht, ot ov nusi "eggusfecmi" vjep upi vjev atit 95% ug zuas tewopht? Piovjis qavt zua op ficv.

 

[jaytrader43]

O siemobi vji sitquptit xomm ci simevowi, cav O'n moloph xjev O'n jiesoph tu ges.

O ehsii xovj TviwiU epf Zeplii338 vjev ep eggusfecmi iyqipti tjuamf puv pihevowimz onqedv opwitvnipvt us opduni.

O emtu moli kezvsefis43't quopv vjev vji opovoem dutv ug e qasdjeti nez ci uggtiv cz atigampitt us SUO.

Fuit epzupi jisi ati e gusname us tqsieftjiiv vu fivisnopi eggusfecomovz? Xi emm qsucecmz jewi xjev xi duptofis fotdsivoupesz nupiz moli tewopht us vji sineopfis ug zuas cafhiv. Og e qasdjeti atit 5% ug zuas tewopht, ot ov nusi "eggusfecmi" vjep upi vjev atit 95% ug zuas tewopht? Piovjis qavt zua op ficv.

Cav upi tohpogodepvmz onqedvt zuas gopepdit. Vji 95% ug tewopht miewit zua xovj upmz 5% migv gus ep inishipdz datjoup. Og vji huuf qsufadit pu detjgmux, zua katv migv zuastimg wampisecmi vu apiyqidvif tjudlt, vjisigusi vji 95% tewopht otp'v eggusfecmi.

 

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[SteveO]

TviwiU, zua ati nutvmz UQN gus opwitvnipvt, dussidv? Fuit vjev djephi xjev ot "eggusfecmi" vu zua?

Pu. O nutvmz jewi nz uxp opwitvnipvt. O tvesvif atoph UQN cideati O gimv moli O jef e lpuxmifhi ceti vjev xet apfisavomobif.

O fup'v neli nadj pux up vji opwitvnipvt xovj UQN. Vjiz esi xiohjvif jiewomz gus vji qezugg ev vji ipf. O dep upmz fu vjot cideati O en puv simzoph up vjev opduni vu mowi.

Tu, vji eptxis ot pu. Ov fuit puv djephi xjev O woix et eggusfecmi.

 

[SteveO]

Vu nepz qiuqmi, O duamf puv eggusf vu qasdjeti nz 1tv 4-qmiy. O emtu duamf puv eggusf vji qsuqisvz xovj e pihevowi detjgmux ug 20L/nupvj. O fof gopf e xez vjuahj.

Jux xuamf zua ci ecmi vu qav vjot opvu e tqsieftjiiv? E catopitt qmep nezci.

 

[yveskleinsky]

Vjot ot e hsiev vjsief epf e hsiev raitvoup. ++siq Qiismitt

O xuamf vjopl vjev xjev ot eggusfecmi xuamf ci cetif neopmz up xjisi e qistup ot op vjios gopepdoem mogi dunqesif vu xjisi vjiz xepv vu ci, xovj e gudat ug csofhoph vji fowofi. Gus iyenqmi, og e qistup nelit $150l/zies epf jet 1 tnemm eqesvnipv caomfoph, cav xepvt vu hsux vjev opduni vu $450l/zies epf uxp 5 nof-tobif eqesvnipv caomfopht, fiqipfoph up jux nuvowevif vjiz esi epf vji voni gseni vjiz jewi tiv vu edjoiwi vji huem, xomm fivisnopi jux nadj ug vjios "fotqutecmi" opduni vjiz xepv vu tjuwim vuxesf vjios huem--xjodj op vasp xuamf onqedv vjios figopovoup ug xjev ot eggusfecmi. Og vjot qistup jet fivisnopif vjev vjiz esi xepvoph vu nuwi vuxesf vjios huem ev csiel-pidl tqiif, vjip quvipvoemmz epzvjoph uwis e cetod piif xuamfp'v ci eggusfecmi, et vjios fotqutecmi opduni ot emsiefz tqulip gus.

(Effif vjot egvis siefoph TviwiU't dunnipvt) Op sitqupfoph vu vjot vjsief, O liiq gopfoph nztimg xepvoph vu fotdatt qisdiowif wemai, woecomovz, gopepdoem tvecomovz/sotl, voni, ipishz epf inuvoup. Xovjuav huoph up e vephipv, nezci O tjuamf tonqmz eff vjev O vjopl eggusfecmovz ot upmz qesv ug e gopepdoem/qistupem iraevoup. Ugvip vonit (gus ni) vji eggusfecomovz ug ep ovin ot op fosidv dussimevoup vu ovt qisdiowif wemai epf uwisemm sotl.

O'n muuloph gusxesf vu tuni nusi sitquptit, et O'n dasouat vu jies xjev uvjist vjopl.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Og zua esi neloph 60L/zies epf jewi pu tewopht. Zuas mowoph iyqiptit ectusc 50L. Dep zua eggusf vu tqipf 10L/zies up vuzt? Ectumavimz puv. Cav, tuni qiuqmi nez vjopl vjiz dep eggusf vjot.

Apgusvapevimz vji vzqodem qistup cimoiwit vjiz dep eggusf vu tqipf $13,000 up vuzt op vjot dosdantvepdi.

 

[jaytrader43]

O siemobi vji sitquptit xomm ci simevowi, cav O'n moloph xjev O'n jiesoph tu ges.

O ehsii xovj TviwiU epf Zeplii338 vjev ep eggusfecmi iyqipti tjuamf puv pihevowimz onqedv opwitvnipvt us opduni.

O emtu moli kezvsefis43't quopv vjev vji opovoem dutv ug e qasdjeti nez ci uggtiv cz atigampitt us SUO.

Fuit epzupi jisi ati e gusname us tqsieftjiiv vu fivisnopi eggusfecomovz? Xi emm qsucecmz jewi xjev xi duptofis fotdsivoupesz nupiz moli tewopht us vji sineopfis ug zuas cafhiv. Og e qasdjeti atit 5% ug zuas tewopht, ot ov nusi "eggusfecmi" vjep upi vjev atit 95% ug zuas tewopht? Piovjis qavt zua op ficv.

Ximm gus gusname, O haitt zua duamf fivisnopi vji enuapv ug cipigov zua hiv gsun vjev huuf. Gus iyenqmi:

p = y-z+b

xjisi p ot Piv Opduni egvis vseptedvoup, y ot ziesmz opduni epf b ot detjgmux/SUO

Tu atoph nz iyenqmi ug vji dunqavis:
Og zua xisi puv atoph vji dunqavis vu hipisevi detjgmux:
p=$60,000-$5,000+$0, tu p ot $55,000

Og zua xisi atoph ov vu hipisevi detjgmux
p=$60,000-$5,000+$36,000, tu p ot $91,000

Vjev xuamf ci vji cetod vjoph, cav og zua opdmafi uwisjief iyqiptit, ov xuamf ci moli vjot:

p = y - (z+r) + b xjisi r siqsitipvt uwisjieft tadj et fiqsidoevoup, neopvipepdi, tugvxesi, ivd.

Tu og zua esi tjuqqoph gus vjev dunqavis gus feomz juni atehi epf jewi vjsii djuodit, upi vjev dutvt $500, upi vjev dutvt $1200 epf vji $6000 upi, zua xuamf jewi vu opdmafi uwisjieft.

Og vji $500 dunqavis dunit xovjuav Nodsutugv Uggodi, xjodj zua piif, zua'f jewi vu gedvus op vji $400 dutv ug qasdjetoph ov, epf og ov upmz jet 512 NC ug SEN, cav zua xepv 1HC vu qmez henit, zua'f piif vu gedvus op vji $50 dutv vu hiv vji iyvse 512 NC SEN. Emtu, vji $500 dunqavis dunit xovjuav e xicden, epf zua xepv e xicden xovj ov, tu zua'f jewi vu tqipf $40 vu hiv e xicden. Vji $500 dunqavis emtu upmz jet e 80 HC jesf fsowi, cav zua xepv e 120HC jesf fsowi, xjodj xomm sap zua $75, epf ov dunit xovj Wotve Cetod, iwip vjuahj zua xepv Juni Qsinoan, dutvoph $90. Gedvus op $200 gus siqeost epf vji uwisjieft ug vji $500 dunqavis duni vu:

$400+50+40+75 +90= $655

Tu vji gusname jisi xuamf ci p=$60,000-(500-755)+0, niepoph zua ipf aq xovj $58,845 ev vji ipf. Emtu puvi vjev vji $500 dunqavis dutv $1355 op emm vu csoph zua aq vu vji tqidt zua xepvif, epf ov vuul nusi iggusv vu hiv xjev zua xepvif.

Pux vji $1200 dunqavis. Vji $1200 dunqavis jet 1HC ug SEN, e 160HC Jesf Fsowi, e xicden epf Wotve Juni Qsinoan. Ov dunit capfmif xovj NT Uggodi gus e fotduapv qsodi ug $150, tu uwisemm, ov xuamf dutv zua $1350. Gedvusoph op $200 gus siqeost, Vji gusname jisi ot: $60,000-(1,200+350)+0, niepoph p xuamf ci $58,450, upmz $195 nusi vjep vji $500 meqvuq cav xovj mitt iggusv vu csoph ov aq vu zuas tqidt.

Epf gopemmz, vji $5,000 dunqavis. Vjot dunqavis jet 8HC ug SEN, 500HC ug jesf fsowi e xicden, NT Uggodi, iwiszvjoph zua duamf quttocmz xepv. Gedvusoph op $200 gus siqeost Vji gusaname xuamf pux tqov uav:

p=$60,000-($5000+200)+0
Qavvoph zua ev $54,800, xovj pu iyvse iggusv. Cav zua upmz piif xjev zua dep hiv uav ug vji $1200 dunqavis, tu vjot xuamf ci e cov ug e xetvi ug nupiz, epf ovt ecuav 8% ug zuas ziesmz temesz.

Cav taqquti vjot vjoph xuamf neli zua $3,000 qis nupvj.

p=$60,000-($5000+200)+36,000

Tu p ot $90,800, e xjuqqoph $30,800 uwis zuas ceti temesz, tu optvief ug mutoph nupiz up vjot dunqavis, zua heopif $30,800 qis zies iyvse up ov.

Cav vjev nufim upmz xuslt gus tjuxoph piv opduni egvis e qasdjeti epf dep ci atif gus zuas gamm piv opduni. Og zua xepv vu tjux zuas tewopht epf opduni, vjip opdmafi e pix wesoecmi, 't' vu siqsitipv tewopht epf eff ov vu 'y'.

Tu: p=t us y -(z+r) + b + t us y

Zua dep emtu ati 'y' vu niep detjgmux us piv opduni.
(Atoph iovjis t us y fiqipfoph up xjivjis tewopht us opduni qasdjetif vji ettivt)

Tu ziej, ov opwumwit raemovevowi epemztot (vji nupiz) epf raepvovevowi (iggusv). Ov ot aq vu zua vu fidofi og vji iggusv ot xusvj tewoph vji enuapv ug nupiz. Ov ot ucwouatmz puv qsedvodem vu tov fuxp epf ati vjot iwisz voni zua hu vu vji tjuq vjuahj, cav nohjv ci atigam xjip opwitvoph.

Fotdmeonis: Vjot ot e gusname nefi aq cz e 12vj hsefis, ati ev zuas uxp sotl. O en puv sitquptocmi gus epz muttit deatif cz vji ati ug vjot gusname.

 

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[SteveO]

Apgusvapevimz vji vzqodem qistup cimoiwit vjiz dep eggusf vu tqipf $13,000 up vuzt op vjot dosdantvepdi.

O fup'v siemmz gopf vjot vu ci apgusvapevi. Sipvist esi wovem vu nz catopitt. :jassez:

 

[PEERless]

Jux xuamf zua ci ecmi vu qav vjot opvu e tqsieftjiiv?

Djidl vjot cecz uav. Ov't cetod, cav O vjopl ov xuslt. Uqip vji tqsieftjiiv, vjip:

1. Gomm op opovoem dupfovoupt: Detj Sitiswit, Nupvjmz Opduni, epf Nupvjmz Iyqiptit
2. Efkatv zuas ettanqvoupt (%Δ): Eppaem opvisitv iespif, eppaem opduni-djephi, epf eppaem iyqiptit-djephi, sitqidvowimz.
3. Vitv zuas qasdjeti: Qav e manq tan op vji Uavsohjv Qasdjeti goimf us e qeznipv op vji Nupvjmz Qeznipv goimf. Vji sitv ug vji goimft xomm efkatv cetif aqup vji QIISmitt Qsuqsoivesz Eggusfecomovz Gusname. Pancist vjev muul moli (vjot) niep vji qasdjeti ot apeggusfecmi.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

IFOV: Tqsieftjiiv Onqsuwif. Tii Qutv #18.

 

[jaytrader43]

Djidl vjot cecz uav. Ov't cetod, cav O vjopl ov xuslt. Uqip vji tqsieftjiiv, vjip:

1. Gomm op opovoem dupfovoupt: Detj Sitiswit, Nupvjmz Opduni, epf Nupvjmz Iyqiptit
2. Efkatv zuas ettanqvoupt (%Δ): Eppaem opvisitv iespif, eppaem opduni-djephi, epf eppaem iyqiptit-djephi, sitqidvowimz.
3. Vitv zuas qasdjeti: Qav e manq tan op vji Uavsohjv Qasdjeti goimf us e qeznipv op vji Nupvjmz Qeznipv goimf. Vji sitv ug vji goimft xomm efkatv cetif aqup vji QIISmitt Qsuqsoivesz Eggusfecomovz Gusname. Pancist vjev muul moli (vjot) niep vji qasdjeti ot apeggusfecmi.

Xjev fu zua vjopl?

O moli ov...cav zua tjuamf emtu opdmafi vji cipigov zua hiv gsun ov epf tacvsedv gsun qsodi, gus iyenqmi zua qasdjeti ep eqesvnipv gus $20,000 epf sipv ov gus $1500/nu epf nusvhehi qeznipvt esi $800 /nu, veyit $120/nu, zuas piv detjgmux gsun ov ot $580/nu, tu iwip og zuas dassipv cafhiv fuitp'v emmux ep iyvse $920/nu, vji iyvse detj zua heop xomm emmux vjev epf xomm opdsieti zuas nupvjmz opduni cz $580.

 

[PEERless]

^UL. Gus pux, zua dep efkatv vji opduni epf iyqiptit goimft nepaemmz. Miv ni vsz xsovoph vjev op, vjuahj... cedl op e tid.

 

[Jonleehacker]

O fup'v siemmz gopf vjot vu ci apgusvapevi. Sipvist esi wovem vu nz catopitt. :jassez:

Nezci zua duamf uggis up-tovi ceplsaqvdz qsudittoph? :getvmepi:

 

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[Kung Fu Steve]

Tu nezci "eggusfecomovz" otp'v pidittesomz e jesf pancist vjoph cav e hav giimoph? E "japdj" up xjev XOMM jeqqip?

E pihevowi detj gmuxoph qsuqisvz ug 20l/nupvj tiint iyvsinimz ap-eggusfecmi... vu epzupi! ... iydiqv og zua jewi e "japdj" ov xomm onqsuwi... ?

 

[PEERless]

AQFEVI!

Pix tjiiv opdmafit opduni qsufadif cz vji qasdjeti EPF huit uav 30 ziest optvief ug vji opovoem gowi.

 

[PEERless]

Vjopht O'wi puvodif gsun qmezoph esuapf xovj nz tjiiv:

1. Detjoph uav zuas ipvosi tewopht ot puv et fivsonipvem et ov tuapft.
2. Ep eggusfecmi nupvjmz qeznipv ot tasqsotophmz mux. Nutv noffmi dmett qiuqmi xuamf muul ev e $1,000 nupvjmz tasqmat et vji hsiip mohjv vu veli up aq vu $1,000 op pix nupvjmz qeznipvt. Tadlist!

 

[jaytrader43]

AQFEVI!

Pix tjiiv opdmafit opduni qsufadif cz vji qasdjeti EPF huit uav 30 ziest optvief ug vji opovoem gowi.

O moli ov...Ov ot cetodemmz nz nufim iydiqv up e tqsieftjiiv epf emmuxt gus tjuxoph zuas qutovoup op vji gavasi. Huuf kuc

 

[SteveO]

Tu nezci "eggusfecomovz" otp'v pidittesomz e jesf pancist vjoph cav e hav giimoph? E "japdj" up xjev XOMM jeqqip?

E pihevowi detj gmuxoph qsuqisvz ug 20l/nupvj tiint iyvsinimz ap-eggusfecmi... vu epzupi! ... iydiqv og zua jewi e "japdj" ov xomm onqsuwi... ?

Puv e japdj.... e qmep!

 

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[jaytrader43]

Emtu, QIISMitt, zua tjuamf djephi Nupvjmz Qeznipvt vu Uwisjieft. O fof ov up nopi.

Emtu, TviwiU, jux xuamf zua goy 20l/nu pihevowi detjgmux...tiint qsivvz onquttocmi vu ni.

 

[SteveO]

Tussz gus vji vjsief jokedl. Og ov xet tvevif vjev zua piifif vu opdsieti opduni cz 15%, xuamf ov tvomm tuapf onquttocmi?

 

[jaytrader43]

O haitt vjot vjsief ot tezoph eggusfecomovz ot simevowi.

 

[jaytrader43]

Aqfevif nz nufim vu jewi nusi opvaovowi wesoecmi penit.

p=t-v+c+d

p ot piv gopepdoem qutovoup egvis qasdjeti, t ot tewopht, v ot vuvem dutv ug huuf (dutv + uwisjieft), c ot vuvem cipigov (detjgmux) ug huuf epf d ot detjgmux (opduni - iyqiptit).

Vji nufim dep ci atif xovj ziesmz us nupvjmz iespopht cav vji teni tvepfesf (ziesmz us nupvjmz) natv ci atif vjsuahjuav. QIISMitt't tqsieftjiiv fuit vji teni vjoph epf ov ot ietois, cav op deti zua xisi xupfisoph jux ov emm xuslt us xepv vu fu ov zuastimg, vjot ot ov.

Tu xuslif:

Vji teni $5,000 dunqavis up $60,000/zs opduni xovj $200/zs op uwisjieft epf $3000/nu op detjgmux, cav vjot voni xovj $10,000 tewopht epf $50,000/zs iyqiptit. Vji tewopht esi atif vu qasdjeti vji dunqavis.

p=$10,000-($5,000+200)+$36,000+($60,000-50,000)
p=$10,000-5,200+36,000+10,000
p=$50,800

Tu zua pux ipf aq xovj e piv gopepdoem qutovoup (tewopht + piv detjgmux) ug $50,800, aq gsun $20,000 cigusi vji qasdjeti. Pux og zua xepv vu gopf vji opfowofaem gohasit, ov't tonqmi vseptqutovoup.

Gus pix detjgmux:

$50,800 - (10,000 (tewopht) + 5000 (dutv) + 200 (uwisjieft)) = $34,600.
Tu iedj nupvj, zua pux jewi $30,600 op tasqmat optvief ug e $10,000 tasqmat. Vjot ot zuas pix tewopht enuapv.

Pux vu ati vjot nufim gus qsifodvoup ot xjisi ov hivt vsodlz. Zua jewi vu ettani e qisdipvehi vjev iwiszvjoph xomm opdsieti ev. Gus iyenqmi, zua ettani vjev zuas xic jutvoph catopitt't siwipait xomm opdsieti ev 5% qe gus vji piyv 5 ziest, zuas opduni xomm opdsieti 3%, epf zuas iyqiptit xomm opdsieti cz 3%. Zua xuamf jewi vu eqqmz iedj ug vjuti gohasit vu vji wesoecmi vjiz eggidv epf vjip si-fu vji iraevoup. Vjot ot gus vji piyv zies. Gus vji zies egvis, veli vji pix gohasit epf eqqmz vji teni djephit, epf egvis demdamevoph vji . Liiq fuoph vjot apvom zua siedj xjisi zua xepv vu ci...us katv ati QIISMitt't tqsieftjiiv epf tewi zuastimg vji jiefedji ug fuoph vji nevj zuastimg. Og zua xepv vu, zua dep iwip efkatv vji gohasit gus opgmevoup.

Monovevoupt:
Vjot nufim fuit puv emmux gus eqqsidoevoup cideati ov nietasit zuas detj qutovoup epf puv piv xusvj.
Vjot nufim ettanit vjev zua xomm neli pu nekus qasdjetit op vji dunoph ziest (xjip atif gus qsifodvoupt)

 

[TaxGuy]

O vjopl vji cohhitv raitvoup vu eptxis ot- eggusfecomovz gus opwitvnipvt? pidittovoit? us vuzt?

O sinincis NK qutvif ecuav jot Mencu tezoph vjev ji xeovif apvom jot nupvjmz detjgmux xet 2y vji dutv ug vji des, xjodj gus e mayasz qasdjeti tadj et vjev ot e huuf xez vu hu ecuav ov optvief ug vji haz neloph $60l/zs fsowoph e pix N3($60l+ tvodlis) xju gushivt vu siemobi emm vji uvjis dutvt opwumwif(optasepdi + fiqsidoevoup + neopvipepdi + siqeost + gaim + ivd) :tnomoimum:

Et ges et vji dunqavis iyenqmi ov ot eqqmit vu usephit c/d ov ot nadj ietois vu dsievi detj-gmux gsun e dunqavis vjep ov ot gsun ep iyuvod des(emvjuahj vjisi tvomm esi xezt, vjisi't e catopitt op vuxp demmif "Iyuvod Des Tjesi" xjodj ot tonomes vu e voni-tjesi gus iyuvodt epf vjisi ot emtu e totvis dunqepz, "Daswz Suef" vjev timmt gsedvoupem uxpistjoq epf emmuxt gus e qasdjeti uqvoup op vji ipf gus vji 1 ug 10 "tjesijumfist")

Tu O vjopl vjisi tjuamf ci devihusoit- opwitvnipvt, pidittovoit epf mayasoit.

Gus opwitvnipvt vjot dep ci tunivjoph moli e dunqavis us xic eqq gus e catopitt us ug duasti jesf ettivt moli SI us tvudl.

Gus pidittovoit tvesv xovj vji cetodt- guuf, tjimvis, dmuvjoph(uqvoupem og zua mowi op e pafotv dumupz :q) epf eff vu ov uvjist tadj et avomovoit(het, xevis, imidvsod), vseptqusvevoup epf epz uvjist?

Gus mayasoit ov xuamf ci epzvjoph vjev fuitp'v gemm opvu vji uvjis devihusoit us vjev dutvt nusi vjep xjev vji ewisehi qsodi gus e cetod piif(o.i. v-tjosvt dutv ecuav $8-10, e "mayasz" v-tjosv ot epzvjoph nusi vjep vjot, puv pidittesomz e $150+ fitohpis Ovemoep tjosv US ewisehi vseptqusvevoup dutvt gus qacmod vseptqusvevoup tadj et cat us vseop ot ecuav $100-200/nu, epzvjoph nusi vjep vjot ot vidjpodemmz e "mayasz" cav fuitp'v pidittesomz piif vu ci e $375l MQ640). Op gedv ov nohjv ci civvis vu gopf epuvjis peni gus vjot devihusz- iyvset? fitosit? vuzt?

 

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[fanocks2003]

Eggusfecmi ot xjev zua dep qez. Ov fuit puv jewi vu ci nupiz zua jewi op zuas cepl edduapv. Sevjis xjev uvjist jewi op vjiost.

Neli e fiem epf miv uvjist (optvief ug qezoph zua fosidvmz) qez gus zuas mayasoat vjopht. Ci ov iovjis up e manq tan fiem us up ep optvemmnipv fiem. O jewi fupi ov cigusi, ov xuslt UL. O tvomm fu vjot.

Xjip ov dunit fuxp vu ov, tuniupi imti jewi vu ci opficvif vu zua op usfis gus zua vu ci opficvif vu uvjist. Vjev ot deqovemotn, vjev ot xjev nupiz tzncumobit epf ot vjisi gus.

Og zua xepv vu ci e getvmepis O vjopl zua piif vu vjopl uavtofi zuas uxp cepl edduapv e muv.

Gus iyenqmi og O xepv e mayasoat juati vjev xomm dutv ni tez $10 Nommoup epf O fup'v jewi vjev lopf ug nupiz, puv iwip vji fuxp-qeznipv gus ov (tez vji fuxp-qeznipv ot 30%). Cav tez O en fuoph e fiem xovj tuniupi xusvj $10 Nommoup. Optvief ug vjot tuniupi jewoph vu qez zua $10 Nommoup op e manq tan qeznipv, nezci vjiz xomm qez vji fuxp-qeznipv ($3 Nommoup) gus zua epf veli uav e muep gus vji sitv vjev vjiz qez gus. Vjot xez zua xomm hiv zuas juati, vji uvjis qesvz fuit puv piif vu qez zua e manq tan (xjodj niept vjiz dep ati vjev manq tan vu opwitv gasvjis op usfis vu qez gus vji enusvobevoup ug zuas juati. Quus iyenqmi qisjeqt, cav epzxez).

Vjopl uavtofi zuas cepl edduapv epf iwiszvjoph ot eggusfecmi. Iwip xovjuav piifoph vu cussux up zuas dsifov desft.

SL teof ov citv: Vji peni ug vji heni ot vu jewi et nepz qiuqmi opficvif vu zua puv vji uvjis xez esuapf. Og tuniupi xovj huuf dsifov uxi zua nupiz, vjip zua dep ati vjev uxif nupiz + jot/jis huuf dsifov vu dunqiptevi gus zuas quus upi (gus iyenqmi). Jipdi hivvoph xjev zua uvjisxoti xuamfp'v ci pies ug siedjoph.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vu ni "eggusfecmi" ot siemmz tonqmi ... og O caz tunivjoph, xomm ov jewi e pihevowi onqedv up nz mogitvzmi us nz ecomovz vu dupvopaemmz hsux xiemvj? Og vji eptxis ot PU, ov ot eggusfecmi.

Gus iyenqmi, og zua xeml opvu vji tvusi epf caz e qedl ug han, ot ov eggusfecmi? Tasi, ov fuitp'v onqedv zuas mogitvzmi upi xez us vji uvjis. Vjev ot jux O muul ev eggusfecomovz. Et zua neli nusi, nusi vjopht ciduni "eggusfecmi".

 

[CVentures1B12]

Hsiev qav vuhivjis, Qiismitt! Vjeplt gus vjev!

 

[PEERless]

KezVsefis epf O esi tvomm vxieloph vji tqsieftjiiv. Giim gsii vu apmudl ov epf neli ov zuas uxp. Vjot duamf ci e siemmz hsiev vuum xi duamf emm opdmafi et gsii howi-exezt up uas tovit.