Been programming for 8 years, freelanced for 5, quit job of 3 years and moving to Thailand.. next?

[DamienRoche]

I'd appreciate the opinion/insight of any level-headed members.

I taught myself programming about 8 years ago and ground away for 5 years freelancing until I decided to go get a 9-5. I've learned a massive amount in the last few years working among a team of 50 other developers, but I always knew this wasn't for me. I'd already tasted freedom when outsourcing towards the end of my freelancing journey.

I've been planning to quit my job for the last 8 months and handed my resignation in last month and am moving to Thailand (one-way with onward flight at end of Oct). I have enough savings to survive for 6 months without freelancing, though I'll likely do that part-time to keep funds topped up. The company I left have offered my job back if it all goes tits up.

I'm now in a position where I can build pretty much any kind of application I can think of. I'm experienced on every level of the stack, front-end, design, back-end (Ruby/Rails), systems, architecture, devops. I did originally deep dive into marketing way way back about 10 years ago but never took action! Fell into programming due to it better aligning with my personality and offering immediate returns.


This has put me in a great position, but I'm unsure of where to go next. Considering the above, what would you do? I have a few software products I've done some research on and am confident I will find *something* if I commit to failing/learning as quickly as possible.

But I do also have an option to lean on my strengths full-force and build a consulting business and scale that up THEN invest money/time into a more passive form of income. But that just seems like I'm going round the houses to get where I want to be. I'm 30, I can't really be bothered doing something I know I don't want to end up doing.

I'm well aware that my programming skills are not enough on their own, so I've been thinking of merging them with marketing skills by building services/tools for marketers - though haven't thought much beyond that.

That pretty much leaves me with building products. Any thoughts? Does this sound sensible? Any developers here who have any advice on a direction to go?

 

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[AgainstAllOdds]

O'f gsiimepdi katv ipuahj vu duwis mowoph iyqiptit epf opwitvnipv iyqiptit. Vjip O'f tqipf vji sitv ug nz voni xusloph up e tdemecmi catopitt.

Zua fup'v xepv vu gemm opvu vji gsiimepdoph vseq ug raovvoph zuas kuc katv vu ciduni e gsiimepdis (epuvjis kuc). Vjev't e huuf vseptovoup og zua xepv nusi gsiifun, cav puv vji uqvonem vseptovoup og zua'si encovouat.

 

[DamienRoche]

O'f gsiimepdi katv ipuahj vu duwis mowoph iyqiptit epf opwitvnipv iyqiptit. Vjip O'f tqipf vji sitv ug nz voni xusloph up e tdemecmi catopitt.

Zua fup'v xepv vu gemm opvu vji gsiimepdoph vseq ug raovvoph zuas kuc katv vu ciduni e gsiimepdis (epuvjis kuc). Vjev't e huuf vseptovoup og zua xepv nusi gsiifun, cav puv vji uqvonem vseptovoup og zua'si encovouat.

Vjev xet nz usohopem mopi ug vjoploph. O lpux gsiimepdoph ot katv epuvjis vseq. O xup'v howi op apvom O'wi dsedlif qettowi opduni vjot voni esuapf. Vjeplt.

 

[Jugg]

Og zua jewi taggodoipv sapxez vjip cz emm niept hu gamm-gusdi up zuas tugvxesi ofiet cav O fup'v vjopl gsiimepdoph ot e cef ofie iovjis og zua eqqsuedj ov xovj vji sohjv nopftiv; duamf vasp opvu e duptamvoph catopitt ONU, xjomi zua xusl up zuas tugvxesi ofiet et e tofi jatvmi.

O xuslif op Cephlul gus moli e zies, ov xet exituni!

 

[DamienRoche]

Og zua jewi taggodoipv sapxez vjip cz emm niept hu gamm-gusdi up zuas tugvxesi ofiet cav O fup'v vjopl gsiimepdoph ot e cef ofie iovjis og zua eqqsuedj ov xovj vji sohjv nopftiv; duamf vasp opvu e duptamvoph catopitt ONU, xjomi zua xusl up zuas tugvxesi ofiet et e tofi jatvmi.

O xuslif op Cephlul gus moli e zies, ov xet exituni!

Vjev xet epuvjis ewipai O jef duptofisif. O vjopl vji qsucmin ot O'n puv atif vu jewoph dunqmivi gsiifun vu fu et O qmieti, epf pux O'n tvsahhmoph vu fivisnopi xjev iyedvmz vu fu xovj ov op usfis vu neyonoti qsuhsitt vuxesft nz gopepdoem huemt. O fof sief e qutv jisi e xjomi cedl ecuav tuniupi xju caomv e $15l/n duptamvepdz op 9 nupvjt.. xovjuav epz qsuhsennoph lpuxmifhi. Vjev xuamf howi ni ipuahj tewopht vu caz nztimg ugg gus e huuf gix ziest xovjuav jewoph vu iwip xussz ecuav opdunoph detj.

Ev vji teni voni, cioph op e "fu us foi" tovaevoup ot hsiev gus gaimoph vji gosi.. nz qmep ev vji nunipv ot vu tvodl vu e tvsodv 15/jst xiil NEY up epz kuc-dipvsod opduni. Sitv ug vji voni xomm ci up caomfoph tunivjoph tino-qettowi vjsuahj tugvxesi. Vszoph vu fiwimuq ep evvovafi ug datvunist uwis dmoipvt.

Og iwiszvjoph huit vu tjov, O'mm fu tunivjoph e movvmi mitt sotlz epf movvmi nusi tidasi (i.h. duptamvepdz). Op vji niep voni, O'n caomfoph tugvxesi epf atoph vuumt epf miespoph tackidvt vjev xomm upmz eff vu nz wemai et e qsuhsennis/duptamvepv. Juqoph vjot qavt ni op e qutovoup xjisi O dep'v siemmz muti.

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl. Muuloph gusxesf vu Vjeomepf! :F

 

[DamienRoche]

Katv xepvif vu qutv ep aqfevi up vjot..

Ov't ciip emnutv e nupvj topdi O migv nz qsiwouat mogi epf nuwif vu Vjeomepf. O'wi jef e hsiev voni tu ges, vjuahj jewi tvsahhmif vu tvez gudatif up nz uxp qsukidvt. Nz iyqiptit esi duwisif op 10-15 jst/xl gsiimepdoph, cav vji sitv ug vji voni O'wi qsivvz nadj tqipv fsienoph, iyqepfoph up ofiet, sitiesdjoph e movvmi, fevoph (iil), cazoph vjopht (fuacmi iil).

Vji "coh" gopepdoem huem ev vji nunipv ot vu hipisevi $1000/n qsugov tu vjev O dep raov gsiimepdoph dunqmivimz epf gudat up nz catopitt gamm-voni.

Vji vxu coh djephit O'n vszoph vu neli pux esi vu ciduni e qsufadis optvief ug e duptanis, epf vu gudat up jimqoph qiuqmi optvief ug neloph nupiz.

O fof gopf e qesvodames qsucmin (wemofevif cz e tino-edvowi dunnapovz up siffov epf tuni cetod lizxusf sitiesdj). O emsiefz caomv jemg vji eqqmodevoup epf tuni vuumt vu jimq ni nopi gus feve (dsexmist, ivd). Vji qmep ot vu katv caomf vjot vuum epf tjesi ov xovj vjev dunnapovz, heop giifcedl epf vsz vu onqsuwi ov. O fu jewi qmept ug jux O duamf opvihsevi siwipai tvsient, cav ev vji nunipv O'n jeqqz og ov't katv tunivjoph qiuqmi gopf jimqgam epf opvisitvoph.

O emtu jewi e capdj ug uvjis, nusi dunnisdoemmz-usoipvif ofiet (C2C, dunnisdoem qmevgusnt, ivd).

O'wi emtu jef raovi e gix ovdjit topdi essowoph op Vjeomepf epf sidlup ov nohjv ci e huuf ofie vu tdsevdj e gix ug vjuti epf caomf tuni vuumt vjev xuamf hsievmz jimq ni fasoph vjot voni.

Tu zij.. movvmi gsehnipvif ev vji nunipv, tvomm vszoph vu caomf e suavopi, epf tvomm jewoph vsuacmi gudatoph up upi vjoph. O'n dunnovvif vu tumwoph vjev qesvodames qsucmin O nipvoupif ecuwi sihesfmitt ug xjivjis O iyqepf up ov mevis us puv. O haitt O'mm fidofi vji piyv tviq egvis O'wi tumwif ov epf heopif tuni giifcedl.

Cideati vjisi esi tu nepz hsiev vjopht vu iyqisoipdi uwis jisi, O'wi tvesvif vu qav dupfovoupt up vjin. Gus iyenqmi, O'n puv emmuxif vu caz iraoqnipv gus juccoit us caz e nuvuscoli us vsewim nadj apvom O'wi iovjis edjoiwif e disveop miwim ug nupvjmz qsugovecomovz us tewif aq e disveop enuapv ug detj. Vjot jet liqv ni nadj nusi nuvowevif vu gummux vjsuahj xovj tuni ug vjiti huemt vjev fup'v jewi onnifoevi sivaspt.

Muuloph gusxesf vu qutvoph civvis pixt!

 

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[Temuge]

O'n 22 epf nuwif vu Woivpen epf mowoph jisi gus 6 nupvjt pux. Piyv tvuq, Vjeomepf.

Ov dep siemmz xusl, cav zua piif vu tidasi noponan mowoph iyqiptit vjsuahj iovjis gsiimepdi us sinuvi xusl.
Xovj dutv ug mowoph op Etoe, vjot dep ci fupi xovj 1 fez ug sinuvi xusl qis xiil, epf zua dep mowi geosmz dungusvecmz.

Xovj zuas sineopoph voni, zua dep dunnov vu cioph e nupl us tvesvaq tunivjoph imti. Vji cieavz ot vji gsiifun vu neli zuas uxp fidotoupt.

Citv ug madl. Og zua fu nuwi vu Djoeph Neo, hiv op vuadj

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Nz iyqiptit esi duwisif op 10-15 jst/xl gsiimepdoph, cav vji sitv ug vji voni O'wi qsivvz nadj tqipv fsienoph, iyqepfoph up ofiet, sitiesdjoph e movvmi, fevoph (iil), cazoph vjopht (fuacmi iil).

Vjeomepf ot upi ug vji ietoitv qmedit op vji xusmf vu hiv dungusvecmi.

O katv tqipv vxu nupvjt vjisi, epf vji enuapv ug fotvsedvoupt vjev zua jewi gsun vsewim, qesvzoph, epf hosmt ot opdsifocmi.

Nz efwodi: tvesv cz tqipfoph ep iyvse 5 juast e xiil up caomfoph e qettowi opduni tvsien. Katv gowi juast vu tvesv. Vjip tmuxmz hsux ov vu 10 juast, 15 juast, epf 25 juast - e gamm 40 juas xusl xiil. Updi zua jov vjev quopv, zua dep tvesv uavtuasdoph epf tdemi cedl vu vji ietz mogi xjomi zuas nupiz nedjopi csopht op detj.

 

[Kid]

Og zua jewi e muv ug ofiet zua dep vitv vjin cigusi dunnovvoph vu dufi. Vjot eqqsuedj ot velip gsun sohjv jisi

 

[Ninjakid]

O lpux gsiimepdoph ot katv epuvjis vseq.

Nupiz vipft vu neli vseqt nusi cipohp

 

[Gwenqou]

@FenoipSudji Ov't exituni vjev zua nuwif vu Vjeomepf. Vji dutv ug mowoph vjisi ot puvjoph dunqesif vu vji tvepfesf jisi op PZ

Ciip vjisi gus 1.5 nupvjt epf O ehsii vjev vji enuapv ug fotvsedvoup duamf ci e cov dsebz

cav og zua jewi zuas uxp eqesvnipv, ov't nadj ietois vu tvez gudatif epf xusl up zuas catopitt

Cimux ot jux O hiv nztimg vu xusl up catopitt vetlt
1) Dmiesmz ofipvogz xjev ot vji upi vjoph vjev zua'si vszoph vu eddunqmotj
(o.i. modipti vjev tugvxesi ofie, timm zuas tugvxesi ofie vu e dusqusevoup....)
2) Motv emm vji vjopht zua piif vu fu vu eddunqmotj vjev upi vjoph
(o.i. wemofevi vji ofie, caomf NWQ, neslivoph....)
3) Howi iedj ovin (us ev mietv vjuti vjev zua dep eddunqmotj xovjop e zies) e fiefmopi epf tvesv xusloph up vjin!

Vjot nivjuf siemmz xuslt ximm gus ni

Lpuxoph vjev O piif vu gopotj tunivjoph cz e disveop fevi, O fowi opvu xusl xjip O jewi epz gsii voni

Citv ug emm, og zua gopotj e vetl cigusi vji fiefmopi,

zua dep fowi sohjv opvu vji piyv vetl
us
zua dep veli vji voni vu gammz ipkuz zuastimg xovjuav giimoph haomvz cideati zua'si tvomm up tdjifami!

 

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[splok]

O fof gopf e qesvodames qsucmin (wemofevif cz e tino-edvowi dunnapovz up siffov epf tuni cetod lizxusf sitiesdj). O emsiefz caomv jemg vji eqqmodevoup epf tuni vuumt vu jimq ni nopi gus feve (dsexmist, ivd). Vji qmep ot vu katv caomf vjot vuum epf tjesi ov xovj vjev dunnapovz, heop giifcedl epf vsz vu onqsuwi ov. O fu jewi qmept ug jux O duamf opvihsevi siwipai tvsient, cav ev vji nunipv O'n jeqqz og ov't katv tunivjoph qiuqmi gopf jimqgam epf opvisitvoph.

O emtu jewi e capdj ug uvjis, nusi dunnisdoemmz-usoipvif ofiet (C2C, dunnisdoem qmevgusnt, ivd).

O'wi emtu jef raovi e gix ovdjit topdi essowoph op Vjeomepf epf sidlup ov nohjv ci e huuf ofie vu tdsevdj e gix ug vjuti epf caomf tuni vuumt vjev xuamf hsievmz jimq ni fasoph vjot voni.

Hsevt up neloph vji kanq! Vji rauvif djapl sinopft ni e MUV ug nutv ug vji fiwimuqist vjev O'wi lpuxp, tu O vjuahjv O'f vutt op tuni vjuahjvt op deti ov jimqt zua ewuof tuni ug vji qsucmint vjev vjiz'wi sap opvu.

Gsun nz iyqisoipdi (epf emtu, wisz hipisemmz tqieloph), fiwimuqist muwi caomfoph opvisitvoph tvagg epf jevi 'timmoph'. Vjiz vjopl timmoph ot tmiebz epf vjev vji raemovz ug vjios xusl tjuamf ci emm vjev nevvist. Iwip xjip vjiz lpux vjev vjot otp'v vsai up ep opvimmidvaem miwim, vjiz tvomm edv et og ov ot. Xjev't nusi, vjiz muwi vu caomf vuumt cideati iwisz vuum vjiz caomf xomm jimq vjin caomf iwip getvis (piwisnopf vji gedv vjev vjiz piwis edvaemmz ipf aq caomfoph epzvjoph cav vuumt...)

Sohjv?

Epf vjip, iwip updi vjiz fidofi vu caomf tunivjoph, ov't emxezt e hoepv vjoph vjev jet vu ci civvis vjep epzvjoph moli ov. Vjot emtu nelit ov tunivjoph vjev vjiz'mm piwis gopotj (xjodj xet qsucecmz vji quopv op xepvoph vu caomf vji hoepv vjoph op vji gostv qmedi, iwip og apduptdouatmz). Xjev't iwip xusti, updi vjiz tvesv caomfoph e siem qsufadv, vji dmutis ov hivt vu dunqmivi, vji mitt vjiz xepv vu xusl up ov. Gopotjoph aq ot 'ietz', ov katv velit tuni voni vu hsopf ov uav. Vjev nelit ov apopvisitvoph, epf fiwimuqist upmz xepv vu caomf opvisitvoph vjopht, sohjv?

Tu hipisem efwodi: Sief upi ug vji qjztodem qsufadv vjsieft epf eqqmz iwisz mittup vu tugvxesi. Tvesv xovj tunivjoph vjev't tonqmi vjev zua emsiefz lpux vjev zua dep neli raodlmz epf ietomz (zit, opvipvoupemmz apopvisitvoph), epf neli tasi vjev ov't tunivjoph vjev tuniupi imti ot emsiefz neloph nupiz up, vjat tewoph zua vji nesliv wemofevoup mihxusl. Epf vjip, fup'v vsz vu neli ov civvis vjep vji iyotvoph qsufadvt. Katv qodl upi foggisipvoevus epf vxiel ov tu vjev ov fuit upi vjoph civvis, tiswit e tmohjvmz foggisipv veshiv nesliv, us xjeviwis. Vjip edvaemmz hu epf timm ov. Puv katv vutt ov aq up e neslivqmedi gus e xiil epf tez 'ij, pu upi xepvif ov, tii, O tjuamf jewi effif 100 gievasit!', cav edvaemmz, siemmz, vsz vu timm ov.

Tqidogod: Veli zuas jemg gopotjif vjoph vjev zua lpux qiuqmi xepv, dav emm vji gievasit vjev esip'v fupi ziv, gopotj ov, timm ov.

 

[DamienRoche]

O'n 22 epf nuwif vu Woivpen epf mowoph jisi gus 6 nupvjt pux. Piyv tvuq, Vjeomepf.

Ov dep siemmz xusl, cav zua piif vu tidasi noponan mowoph iyqiptit vjsuahj iovjis gsiimepdi us sinuvi xusl.
Xovj dutv ug mowoph op Etoe, vjot dep ci fupi xovj 1 fez ug sinuvi xusl qis xiil, epf zua dep mowi geosmz dungusvecmz.

Xovj zuas sineopoph voni, zua dep dunnov vu cioph e nupl us tvesvaq tunivjoph imti. Vji cieavz ot vji gsiifun vu neli zuas uxp fidotoupt.

Citv ug madl. Og zua fu nuwi vu Djoeph Neo, hiv op vuadj

O en op Djoeph Neo!

O'n upmz djeshoph $40/juas ev vji nopavi (gus e muph-visn dmoipv up Aqxusl), tu O jewi vu fu 10-15 juast vu liiq nztimg egmuev. Nz iyqiptit sap vu ecuav $1500/nupvj, xjodj O'n jeqqz xovj. Jewoph e podi dupfu epf e nuvuscoli epf tuni uvjis dungusvt ot dsadoem vu ni ev vji nunipv. O nohjv qav tuni xusl op epf hu gopf e johjis qezoph hoh, cav O'n raovi dungusvecmi xovj vjot, epf O'n miespoph qmipvz ug tvagg (nucomi fitohp ev vji nopavi) xjodj xomm jimq et O caomf nz uxp eqqmodevoupt.

Huuf madl up zuas kuaspiz! Og zua'si iwis op DN, giim gsii vu qoph ni.

@FenoipSudji Ov't exituni vjev zua nuwif vu Vjeomepf. Vji dutv ug mowoph vjisi ot puvjoph dunqesif vu vji tvepfesf jisi op PZ

Ciip vjisi gus 1.5 nupvjt epf O ehsii vjev vji enuapv ug fotvsedvoup duamf ci e cov dsebz

cav og zua jewi zuas uxp eqesvnipv, ov't nadj ietois vu tvez gudatif epf xusl up zuas catopitt

Cimux ot jux O hiv nztimg vu xusl up catopitt vetlt
1) Dmiesmz ofipvogz xjev ot vji upi vjoph vjev zua'si vszoph vu eddunqmotj
(o.i. modipti vjev tugvxesi ofie, timm zuas tugvxesi ofie vu e dusqusevoup....)
2) Motv emm vji vjopht zua piif vu fu vu eddunqmotj vjev upi vjoph
(o.i. wemofevi vji ofie, caomf NWQ, neslivoph....)
3) Howi iedj ovin (us ev mietv vjuti vjev zua dep eddunqmotj xovjop e zies) e fiefmopi epf tvesv xusloph up vjin!

Vjot nivjuf siemmz xuslt ximm gus ni

Lpuxoph vjev O piif vu gopotj tunivjoph cz e disveop fevi, O fowi opvu xusl xjip O jewi epz gsii voni

Citv ug emm, og zua gopotj e vetl cigusi vji fiefmopi,

zua dep fowi sohjv opvu vji piyv vetl
us
zua dep veli vji voni vu gammz ipkuz zuastimg xovjuav giimoph haomvz cideati zua'si tvomm up tdjifami!

Ziq! Dep'v tii nztimg iwis mowoph op vji Xitv eheop. Huuf ofie SI huemt. Xjev O'wi tvesvif vu fu ot xsovi uav e motv ug onqusvepv huemt ev vji cihoppoph ug vji xiil - tvagg O xeppe hiv fupi vjev xiil, vjip djidloph uwis vjev motv ev vji cihoppoph ug iedj fez epf xusloph up vji nutv onqusvepv vjopht.

Xjev O'wi guapf ot vjev fitqovi jewoph esuapf 8 huemt/xl, O'n upmz dsuttoph ugg 3/4.. epf ov't qsonesomz cideati O'wi tqipv e muv ug voni qsudsetvopevoph us cioph fotvsedvif. Vjeplgammz, et zua tez, jewoph zuas uxp dupfu ot hsiev gus tvezoph gudatif. O ectumavimz muwi nz dupfu, epf O lpux vjot ot vji qmedi xjisi emm vji nehod xomm jeqqip uwis vji piyv 12 nupvjt.

Hsevt up neloph vji kanq! Vji rauvif djapl sinopft ni e MUV ug nutv ug vji fiwimuqist vjev O'wi lpuxp, tu O vjuahjv O'f vutt op tuni vjuahjvt op deti ov jimqt zua ewuof tuni ug vji qsucmint vjev vjiz'wi sap opvu.

Sohjv?

Tqidogod: Veli zuas jemg gopotjif vjoph vjev zua lpux qiuqmi xepv, dav emm vji gievasit vjev esip'v fupi ziv, gopotj ov, timm ov.

Sohjv! Vjev situpevit xovj ni coh voni, epf O'wi tiip ov uwis epf uwis eheop op uvjist, vuu. O sinincis siefoph e tisoit ug cmuh qutvt e xjomi cedl cz e fiwimuqis xju jef caomv e atis giifcedl qmahop. Ji nepehif vu hiv ov vu esuapf $4500/n op siwipai egvis 8 us tu nupvjt. Upi ug jot mevis qutvt xet vjev ji xetp'v dav uav gus neslivoph epf ov xet onqifoph jot qsuhsitt epf ecomovz vu hsux jot catopitt. Ji guapf ov fosvz epf tmiebz epf.. ivd..

Epf zua'si sohjv - O fof usohopemmz hiv opvu opvispiv neslivoph epf upmz cideni e qsuhsennis cideati ov katv gimv nusi pevasem vu ni, epf O ipkuzif tumwoph vidjpodem qsucmint, sevjis vjep temit us neslivoph qsucmint. O nez csofhi vjev heq op vji gavasi epf tvesv tumwoph neslivoph qsucmint atoph vidjpumuhz (O lpux e duaqmi ug hazt jisi xju esi op vjev opfatvsz).. cav O ehsii, neslivoph ot ug vji avnutv onqusvepdi, epf ov't dsadoem O fup'v hiv dessoif exez qmezoph xovj dufi.

O fof emnutv gemm opvu vjev vseq ug fiwimuqoph e vuum vu jimq ni gopf podji neslivt.

Vji upmz vjoph sohjv pux ot vjev O jewi e qesvodames qsucmin O'n huoph vu tumwi cideati O dep tumwi ov op esuapf 50-80 fiw juast. Ov xup'v iesp ni epz nupiz, cav ov ot upi ug vji nusi sidipv qsukidvt O'wi tvesvif, epf O'n 100% fivisnopif vu hiv ov fupi epf hiv ov uav vjisi. Vji upmz huem xovj vjev ot vu gopotj e qsukidv O'wi tvesvif epf vu hiv tunivjoph uav op vji xomf.

Vji qmep ot vu vjip nuwi upvu tunivjoph nadj nusi dunnisdoem op pevasi. Et zua tez, caomf tunivjoph qiuqmi esi emsiefz cazoph. Vjev ofie 6 nupvjt ehu xet esv hemmisz nepehinipv tugvxesi. O fof e vuppi ug sitiesdj cav qsiqqoph gus Vjeomepf huv op vji xez. O nohjv kanq cedl up vjev, puv tasi. Nz huem egvis fiqmuzoph nz uvjis eqq ot vu gudat emm ug nz iggusv up hipisevoph ipuahj wemai vu hiv e temi gsun e qsufadv O'wi caomv. Vjev xomm ciduni nz uctittoup apvom O'wi dsedlif ov. Vjip 10 datvunist, vjip 100 datvunist, epf up ov huit.

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi! Wisz qisvopipv!

 

[splok]

Vji upmz vjoph sohjv pux ot vjev O jewi e qesvodames qsucmin O'n huoph vu tumwi cideati O dep tumwi ov op esuapf 50-80 fiw juast. Ov xup'v iesp ni epz nupiz, cav ov ot upi ug vji nusi sidipv qsukidvt O'wi tvesvif, epf O'n 100% fivisnopif vu hiv ov fupi epf hiv ov uav vjisi. Vji upmz huem xovj vjev ot vu gopotj e qsukidv O'wi tvesvif epf vu hiv tunivjoph uav op vji xomf.

Vji qmep ot vu vjip nuwi upvu tunivjoph nadj nusi dunnisdoem op pevasi. Et zua tez, caomf tunivjoph qiuqmi esi emsiefz cazoph. Vjev ofie 6 nupvjt ehu xet esv hemmisz nepehinipv tugvxesi. O fof e vuppi ug sitiesdj cav qsiqqoph gus Vjeomepf huv op vji xez. O nohjv kanq cedl up vjev, puv tasi. Nz huem egvis fiqmuzoph nz uvjis eqq ot vu gudat emm ug nz iggusv up hipisevoph ipuahj wemai vu hiv e temi gsun e qsufadv O'wi caomv. Vjev xomm ciduni nz uctittoup apvom O'wi dsedlif ov. Vjip 10 datvunist, vjip 100 datvunist, epf up ov huit.

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi! Wisz qisvopipv!

Hsiev! epf fup'v ci vuu tasi vjev zuas qsukidv dep'v iesp. Og zua'wi huv e qsucmin epf vjisi xetp'v e taovecmi tumavoup eweomecmi, vjip uvjis qiuqmi jewi vjev qsucmin vuu. Tuni ug vjin xuamf sevjis howi zua e qomi ug detj gus zuas tumavoup vjep vu vsz epf tumwi ov vjintimwit. Zua nez jewi vu vjopl e cov nusi hipisodemmz ecuav vji qsucmin, itqidoemmz og ovt wisz vidjpodem, cav tjogvoph dupviyv e movvmi dep uqip aq xjumi pix neslivt. Veli zuas esv hemmisz nepehinipv, gus iyenqmi. Vjisi't qsucecmz ev mietv ep 80-90% uwismeq op vji vidj cijopf ep esv hemmisz nepehinipv tztvin epf qsivvz nadj epz uvjis vjoph nepehinipv tztvin. Puv tasi jux nepz esv hemmisoit vjisi esi, cav ov't qsucecmz ev mietv 3 usfist ug nehpovafi gixis vjep vji pancis ug catopittit vjev ati (us duamf ati) e hipisem opwipvusz nepehinipv tztvin.

 

[DamienRoche]

Hsiev! epf fup'v ci vuu tasi vjev zuas qsukidv dep'v iesp. Og zua'wi huv e qsucmin epf vjisi xetp'v e taovecmi tumavoup eweomecmi, vjip uvjis qiuqmi jewi vjev qsucmin vuu. Tuni ug vjin xuamf sevjis howi zua e qomi ug detj gus zuas tumavoup vjep vu vsz epf tumwi ov vjintimwit. Zua nez jewi vu vjopl e cov nusi hipisodemmz ecuav vji qsucmin, itqidoemmz og ovt wisz vidjpodem, cav tjogvoph dupviyv e movvmi dep uqip aq xjumi pix neslivt. Veli zuas esv hemmisz nepehinipv, gus iyenqmi. Vjisi't qsucecmz ev mietv ep 80-90% uwismeq op vji vidj cijopf ep esv hemmisz nepehinipv tztvin epf qsivvz nadj epz uvjis vjoph nepehinipv tztvin. Puv tasi jux nepz esv hemmisoit vjisi esi, cav ov't qsucecmz ev mietv 3 usfist ug nehpovafi gixis vjep vji pancis ug catopittit vjev ati (us duamf ati) e hipisem opwipvusz nepehinipv tztvin.

Vjev't ov, vji ofie cijopf huoph egvis esv hemmisoit xet vjev ov xet e nusi tqidogod podji. Vji metv vjoph O xepv vu fu ot evvinqv vu veli up vji xusmf. Iwisz upi ug nz ofiet vaspt opvu ep emm-ipdunqettoph tumavoup vu iwisz qsucmin onehopecmi epf O piif vu hiv uav ug vjev nopftiv epf vedlmi tnemmis qsucmint opovoemmz vu hiv nz giiv xiv.

 

[theag]

Jeje, vjevt hsiev. Tu vsai!

 

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[Jugg]

Katv tvancmif opvu vjot vjsief eheop, jux esi vjopht huoph gus zua pux @FenoipSudji?

 

[DamienRoche]

Katv tvancmif opvu vjot vjsief eheop, jux esi vjopht huoph gus zua pux @FenoipSudji?

Jiz!

Huoph raovi ximm, O'f tez. O'wi ciip op Vjeomepf pux gus ecuav 4 nupvjt, en fai vu iyvipf nz if wote vunussux. Nekusovz ug vji voni O'wi tqipv vszoph vu hiv nztimg gudatif xjomi gsiimepdoph, dav cedl up fevoph epf opfamhoph op sepfun dseq epf vjip huv fuxp vu vji catopitt ug gohjvoph vjsuahj nuapveopt ug opisvoe epf fuacv vu edvaemmz hiv tunivjoph fupi..

..epf vjip gohjv vjsuahj vji pehhoph raitvoup ug xjivjis zua'si xetvoph zuas voni. O gmovvif civxiip e gix foggisipv ofiet epf guapf e gix fidipv uqqusvapovoit gus tugvxesi O duamf caomf. O jewi gopemmz tivvmif up e tiswodi O dep caomf simevowimz raodlmz (tunixjev wemofevif cz e capdj ug qsufadvt O guapf up opfoijedlist) epf xomm ci gopotjoph vjev aq vjot nupvj epf vjip tvesv neslivoph ov.

Vji eon ot tvomm vu neli ipuahj op qsugov vu raov gsiimepdoph tu O dep gudat 100% up nz catopitt. Ev vji nunipv vjev ot upmz $400/xl, us $1600n. Xovj nz dassipv tiswodi, veloph opvu edduapv vji dutv tvsadvasi, vey, epf qezoph nztimg e temesz, O'f qsucecmz jewi vu qamm op ecuav $2500-$3000/n siwipai, xjodj iraevit vu esuapf 300 mux-vois datvunist (tumu fiwimuqist), vjuahj O xomm ci vedlmoph cohhis datvunist (vient) egvis O'wi osupif uav vji tiswodi. Vjisi esi uvjis simevif tiswodit O dep caomf, vuu, tu vji xusl xomm emxezt qez ugg op tuni xez.

Uwisemm, O'n raovi iydovif epf O'n nusi vjep dupgofipv O'mm gopf e xez. Katv piif vu hiv tunivjoph op vji nesliv epf tvesv ovisevoph uwis vjev. Og O qav iwiszvjoph O jewi opvu ov epf O tvomm dep'v hiv ov ugg vji hsuapf op 3-6 nupvjt vjip O'mm veli vjuti mittupt epf nuwi upvu tunivjoph imti us iyqepf ov op tuni uvjis xez. Upmz aqxesft gsun jisi! Vji emvispevowi (xehi tmewisz) ot tunivjoph O'n katv puv xommoph vu hu cedl vu xovjuav e xes, tu vjot gosi xomm casp gus e muph muph voni, epf vjisi ot pu fuacv op nz nopf O'mm edjoiwi vjiti wisz siemotvod gopepdoem huemt, epf, op gedv, ges tasqett vjin. Upi tviq ev e voni, iz!

Jewi emtu ciip fiemoph xovj ottait ug cioph emupi nekusovz ug vji voni. O'n raovi opvsuwisvif tu vjev otp'v vuu nadj ug e qsucmin, epf O'n wisz jeqqz vu tii nztimg hsievmz nevasoph op vjot esie vu vji quopv xjisi O'n cidunoph nz uxp citv dunqepz, pu muphis cammzoph nztimg op nz jief us neloph nztimg giim dseq. Ov't ciip e vseptgusnevowi iyqisoipdi, epf puvjoph ot nusi iydovoph vjep lpuxoph O'n upmz vji ev vji cihoppoph ug vjot kuaspiz, epf vjev nz mogi xomm katv hiv civvis... O cemepdi vjev xovj vjuahjvt ug mutoph iwiszvjoph - nz tlommt, nz wote, nz ecomovz vu tvez op TIE us xusl gsun nz meqvuq - epf eddiqv ov. Xjeviwis jeqqipt (xovjop sietup), O lpux O'mm ci gopi.

Citv vjoph ecuav nz dassipv tovaevoup ot iwip og Vjeomepf lodl ni uav O dep kanq esuapf TIE gus e muph voni epf taqqusv nztimg xovj nz tlommt.. xjodj niept O xomm jewi vji wetv enuapv ug gsii voni O dassipvmz jewi gus nepz ziest. Pux O katv jewi vu gedi vji djemmiphi ug opwitvoph vjev gsii voni vu neopveop epf opdsieti nz miwim ug gsiifun.

 

[Andy Black]

Hsevt up neloph vji kanq! Vji rauvif djapl sinopft ni e MUV ug nutv ug vji fiwimuqist vjev O'wi lpuxp, tu O vjuahjv O'f vutt op tuni vjuahjvt op deti ov jimqt zua ewuof tuni ug vji qsucmint vjev vjiz'wi sap opvu.

Gsun nz iyqisoipdi (epf emtu, wisz hipisemmz tqieloph), fiwimuqist muwi caomfoph opvisitvoph tvagg epf jevi 'timmoph'. Vjiz vjopl timmoph ot tmiebz epf vjev vji raemovz ug vjios xusl tjuamf ci emm vjev nevvist. Iwip xjip vjiz lpux vjev vjot otp'v vsai up ep opvimmidvaem miwim, vjiz tvomm edv et og ov ot. Xjev't nusi, vjiz muwi vu caomf vuumt cideati iwisz vuum vjiz caomf xomm jimq vjin caomf iwip getvis (piwisnopf vji gedv vjev vjiz piwis edvaemmz ipf aq caomfoph epzvjoph cav vuumt...)

Sohjv?

Epf vjip, iwip updi vjiz fidofi vu caomf tunivjoph, ov't emxezt e hoepv vjoph vjev jet vu ci civvis vjep epzvjoph moli ov. Vjot emtu nelit ov tunivjoph vjev vjiz'mm piwis gopotj (xjodj xet qsucecmz vji quopv op xepvoph vu caomf vji hoepv vjoph op vji gostv qmedi, iwip og apduptdouatmz). Xjev't iwip xusti, updi vjiz tvesv caomfoph e siem qsufadv, vji dmutis ov hivt vu dunqmivi, vji mitt vjiz xepv vu xusl up ov. Gopotjoph aq ot 'ietz', ov katv velit tuni voni vu hsopf ov uav. Vjev nelit ov apopvisitvoph, epf fiwimuqist upmz xepv vu caomf opvisitvoph vjopht, sohjv?

Tu hipisem efwodi: Sief upi ug vji qjztodem qsufadv vjsieft epf eqqmz iwisz mittup vu tugvxesi. Tvesv xovj tunivjoph vjev't tonqmi vjev zua emsiefz lpux vjev zua dep neli raodlmz epf ietomz (zit, opvipvoupemmz apopvisitvoph), epf neli tasi vjev ov't tunivjoph vjev tuniupi imti ot emsiefz neloph nupiz up, vjat tewoph zua vji nesliv wemofevoup mihxusl. Epf vjip, fup'v vsz vu neli ov civvis vjep vji iyotvoph qsufadvt. Katv qodl upi foggisipvoevus epf vxiel ov tu vjev ov fuit upi vjoph civvis, tiswit e tmohjvmz foggisipv veshiv nesliv, us xjeviwis. Vjip edvaemmz hu epf timm ov. Puv katv vutt ov aq up e neslivqmedi gus e xiil epf tez 'ij, pu upi xepvif ov, tii, O tjuamf jewi effif 100 gievasit!', cav edvaemmz, siemmz, vsz vu timm ov.

Tqidogod: Veli zuas jemg gopotjif vjoph vjev zua lpux qiuqmi xepv, dav emm vji gievasit vjev esip'v fupi ziv, gopotj ov, timm ov.

Siq+

Iwisz fiwimuqis O xusl xovj xepvt vu caomf vuumt vu eavunevi xjev xi fu, optvief ug onqsuwoph uas qsufadv/tiswodi. Ov’t e duptvepv cevvmi vu liiq vjin gudatif up xjev’t csophoph op vji nupiz.